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and even though it was zelenskyi’s speech , the north korean mfa reacts to every publication no, in any case how could you think and what is that, what’s the matter? well, russia is your ally, and so under this station that could be implemented against you, what are you afraid of? i think that they can come out of this in iran, at least from the point of view of the fact that they are an anti-imperialist state, that is, the islamic republic was created by ethologists to me as a state that is fighting world imperialism with washington and moscow, because these are imperialist states that are trying to spread his hegemony over the entire surrounding world and then the question arises and why are you then if one of these states is this second satan from moscow wants to spread his hegemons to a neighboring state why are you helping him where is our revolutionaryness we are behaving strangely and
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better and by the way the iranian political elite are talking about it, about what needs to be done before not helping russia, newspapers are being written that are published officially in tehran, you can read it on iranian authorized internet sites, that is, there is a discussion there, and then this discussion leads to the fact that supporters supply of weapons do not want to admit that they are supplying them. that is, in the external and internal situation regarding north korea, it is generally difficult for me to understand their motives, because they definitely do not have a discussion, you know that if you start a discussion, you will be shot with a cannon, this is such a special discussion. such is pluralism, to say it from a cannon under your nose, but it means that something is also holding back in some way from the readiness to become such an ally of russia , that is, the only person who recognizes himself as an ally of russia is lukashenko on the list it begins and ends, and you know
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, in the case of iran. they said at some point they admitted that they supplied, but they say until february 24, yes. who would have thought that our weapons would be used in such a way, some kind of horror , it contradicts itself a little, they can use this now, these drones that supplied until the age of 20, they banned po, but they banned the use of vitalya, but britain and the united states of america say that if you continue such a policy , well, we will respond early to the example and how can they still react? you have already said that the european union and the united states introduced sanctions a long time ago, rubbing against the wound. other sanctions are not in effect
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this year, they have already stopped, so in principle there is where to go, secondly, there is another military-technical issue, but i don't know what they noticed that the prime minister-elect of israel talked to the ministries vladimir putin and there was an agenda - this conversation is quite simple. by the way, it was laid out by mitanyakh's office, or that if you read the messages of putin's office, he could not have talked to some other person, not from ditonyak, but he does not think that he was diluting with putin about ukraine, that it is necessary to start a war about iran, that he is worried about russian military-technical cooperation with iran , and about the base and the wound that israel is trying to create in the gray area near the northern borders, and he told putin very precisely sharply enough for him that he will resolutely oppose it, what does it mean when the united states says that it will take some real action, president bayda, in
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principle, can simply meet with the prime minister no, nevermind and say, you know, if 10 of your planes go somewhere they will fly , no one noticed it. let them fly where they want . your planes are your business. let them fly. and why do you think that the russians can shoot you down? we will give you all the satellite data so that no one touches you and the iranians can. suddenly in the morning wake up and they won't have some facilities in iran because israel is more interested in this than the united states, the only thing the jewish state wants is to be given the opportunity to do this so that there are no consequences from the point of view of international law, but if iran continues such cooperation with it is natural for russia that the united states itself will be interested in such actions by israel, and the united states itself will not be needed.
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of europe through our gts, the ministry of energy warns that the russian federation can suspend at any time, but in principle, i read an interview with vitaly, the minister of energy gerbina glushchenko. he said that they are ready for this . they expected it throughout the war, and what is interesting. i do not know was this information available before ? to be honest, i didn't follow it before . on the night of february 24, they increased the transit almost to the maximum, because in europe , we give you gas, and you don't touch it , please. the stability of the supply through this pipe is only important if it is wrong for the government, do you understand what is the matter? i always tried to explain what our spokesperson was starting from when they discussed the issue of the north stream, the topic was always the same, you have nothing to do with this, they did not
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say that you should not build the nord stream because that then we won't be given money for transit and we won't receive important money for our budget and you do n't need this money anyway, you're so rich and the germans said listen, this is business, we also want to make money and you will earn less, and we guarantee you that you will make a certain amount. federal tile merkel says that transit must go through you, that this must be a necessary condition, so that you will earn and we will earn and everyone will be satisfied . i always said that if you transfer the topic of gas transit to the business plane, you will lose because it should be considered exclusively from the point of view of security, not of our earnings, but of russia's fulfillment of its transit obligations to europe, because on the very day when putin is convinced that he can for the fulfillment of these obligations will technologically
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do without the ukrainian gas transportation system, he will start a war, well, i was wrong literally for a few weeks. so, when the north was announced, nord stream 2 could already work sometime in january of last year. well, a month passed and the war began, that is, all that we they told the germans everything happened, everyone generally thought that it was just that, you know, the rhetorical technique - that kind of rhetoric , well, you're not serious, mr. vitaly, you're just intimidating him, i was told this even by our ukrainian colleagues of various conference that no, i won't scare them, it will just be a war, or should i scare them , they won't have a war we will have a war, they just need to know that they will lose much more from this war than they do there transit what by the way, what is happening now applies yes works so applies what applies to us we all the time thought that we could save this transit route and
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the money it had to be done differently in order to save the ukrainian gas transport system and money for transit there are necessary conditions the first is to give this gazprom, as belarus did, the second is to join the eurasian economic union, the third is to fulfill all putin's whims. as lukashenka does, then you will receive this money, it is the same payment for loyalty. if you want to be an independent, independent state. if you want to choose your own path then you have to pay for everything. you won't have this money for transit, which means you ca n't be an independent state and a corrupt populist state at the same time so that people in your country pay as much for gas as in north korea is being paid and they were very worried when the prices were raised, it doesn't happen either there or here or to europe or to russia, you can't
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stay on these two chairs that it was necessary to clearly understand that we will not receive this money for transit because our own policy on that that we are going to europe will necessarily lead to a confrontation between russia and europe and to the fact that europe itself will give up russian gas as a result and there will be nothing for russia to transport through our pipeline. this is just such a reality that no one here wanted to put up with because the very concept of this state since 1994, approved by the majority of its citizens, was that we need cheap russian gas and that we fill our transit and our budget with money for the transit of this russian gas and that is how we will live and now we are for all this the choice of ukrainian citizens is to pay, it did not happen just like that, everything that happened is a conscious choice of the majority of our citizens who do not understand that you cannot go to the
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west on the one hand and want to be paid for it from the east. if you want to be paid from the east and you need to go to the east, how did lukashenko do it and what do you want? you will not go back and pay because there are other interests in the east. and it was called many vectors, so i am asking for cheap cheese from the mouse hunters, but eh, vitaliy, why about the gas needle, everyone understood that, but about transit directly is not a very simple mathematical formula, it is gas, we are paid for it, we are paid for it because the gas is transported to europe, we say we want it to be only through us, but at the same time we ourselves want to be part of the european union and nato russia says no, you will not be a part of the european union , but we will attack you, but europe, don't interfere. europe says we can't not interfere because you are violating the sovereignty of an independent state. russia says, well then, i'm sorry
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, we won't supply you with gas. and what about our status? you, vitaliy, you are a scary person in the sense that all your predictions are wrong, it 's just smart logic . do you understand this logic that every teenager should know when he meets his classmate or students - it's a jacket and suddenly he decides what he needs with her i will tell you about some special personal relationships. well , even a teenager knows that a child can be born in nine months. this is news. well, there are teenagers who think that a stork brings children, but there are not many of them left , i suspect. the behavior of a teenager who thinks that there will be a stork instead of a stork who can also not be a child bring something more or less pleasant instead of a stork rockets rockets you understand how in malkovich's poem about cranes flying with
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nuclear bombs there was such a poem all that is a fee for infantilism yes, it is not possible, i would be very good, we are going to the european union, we are going to nato, and the russians pay us for all this, they give us cheap gas, they give us the transit fee that we like, says this rauna by the way from the point of view of formal logic, if russia were a normal state, all this would be beneficial to it, if ukraine became a member of the european union, this opens up space for russian companies that register in ukraine , it is possible for the ukrainian state system to be subject to these actions of european legislation, to reduce the price for transit in this way, of course, everything was like that in russia. of course, in russia, all this was profitable, and only if russia was not a state that would like us to exist and did not want it , probably a tact, but we are dealing, you know, not with a normal country well, with all this, it was always known, too. well, let
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's talk about whether hungary actually supports a terrorist state, and specifically not hungary, but urban, because as i see it, many of them are even and not only opposition politicians in hungary, and ah party members orbana says that they are personally against his actions, in particular, now he is threatening to dissolve the european parliament and he is trying to blackmail european leaders in every possible way, so he refused to fight against ukraine for russia, but he really wants to make money for himself. imagine that today is saturday, so imagine they tell you that you live on friday, just imagine doing it on the spot, you know , on friday night you will receive 20 billion dollars, and on the fifth evening, sky says, you know, you will not receive 20 million dollars, you will not i like it. you manage your country well, you violate the rules of the european
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union. what did you say to this european union? they accuse him of corruption, they fulfill the norms of european legislation , and all of a sudden it turns out that the vice-speaker of the european parliament from greece is such a magical memory, the former tv host part a corruption network that is acting in the interests of qatar, there is a whole mafia headed by an italian former deputy and one of the greek journalists wrote that it is strange that greek meps think that it is possible to behave in brussels like in greece because it happens in greece, but you understand that the order speaks to its voters you see, they tell us that the customs are targeting the most terrible, miserable
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corrupters, the argument, well, what kind of argument is this? well , this one from the speaker is in prison, everyone is arrested, there is a special operation, corruption is common, the problem is not that there is no corruption the question is that there is a fight against corruption, so a person who uses his official position as the speaker of the parliament for corrupt practices can end up in prison together with ordinary people who never had such a big mandate, and hungary somehow does not really fight corruption in hungary there is a problem of the absence of the rule of law, so i believe that this anti-corruption special operation confirmed that europe is a healthy organism, if they covered it, if we learned about it from a newspaper investigation, and the european parliament would said we don't know anything oh, how is it possible, how is it possible to get to the office of the vice-speaker, i'm sorry, she went on vacation and will be back only in two weeks. and you see, everyone
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didn't warn anyone, they did a brilliant special operation in the best tradition of these italian detectives, where they told how high they put officials, they take them, they put handcuffs on them, so in this regard, i think that everything happened normally, but in orban's interpretation, urban is trying to scramble away, but he will not go anywhere. because he needs 20 billion we say a lot that he is on good terms with putin, you understand. well, putin will never give him that much money. how much money can the european parliament give you? the body is already considering such interests. and this will not cover the financial exercises given because he unblocked aid to ukraine or and those 20 billion were not given, which means that we will have to make changes to the legislation. i think he
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will do it. urban is a very smart person, but he is will do that's how, because of all these tricks, i demanded to dissolve, they didn't dissolve, but we here in hungary are much more honest people than they passed important legislation that will allow us to fight corruption . cannot live without this legislation, if there are such corrupt people in brussels, well, vitaly, but at the same time, he is accused of corruption, the lack of justice in the country, the rule of law of all european values, the main ones because he supports russia de facto and now it is not fashionable to support russia, but they still say that it is impossible to remove him democratically, why does he have such support then, because people like him well, it happens that people are different electorates, different urban for many years , he has been convincing hungarians that he is the key to their stability, a fighter against
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corruption, a person who is an alternative to the post-communist government. and this year, he played a very unfair game when he began to convince hungarians that he is the prime minister of peace. and the opposition wants war you know when you tell people that you also guarantee peace, and if they vote for your opponent, then there will be war for you. if this is an ordinary person who wants to live in a normal, peaceful world, you will vote for the devil only for the novel, just so that there will be no such horror. even more so neighbors of ukraine ukraine, he played on this, then don't forget urban is almost totally controlled by hungarians he created such a system, by the way, you can tell more about it because i didn't know that there is something wrong with them like in the russian federation that they close there are not loyal the media, they just finance their media properly, they create different funds, and this was from the beginning of
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viktor orban's second premiership, when he started to create all these pyramids, when he started to create all these opportunities for earning for his closest associates, these are all private funds, they would be able to do and together with that, how do you understand all these private funds , they privately finance these newspapers, that is, he is the ability of competitors, the first president of croatia in his time, in the temple here, she who was also such a person, i would say with a heavy hand then it is a country neighboring hungary, it is a different country now, but it was a war and he didn’t close anything either, especially he just qualified the opposition publications according to the scale of pornographic publications, they sued them, then they once won this court, but while there were courts, they had to pay only erotic and
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pornographic publications could really pay such income tax. but they didn't print naked women and men there, they didn't buy them in such a quantity that they bought then, these publications will be ordinary publications, and that's why only one newspaper actually remained there, i remember how it was always hunted by the feral tribun, which was in opposition to the government in jungman tuman and which was supported by guarantors from all european countries, and here we still introduced taxes on these grants and there was a messenger all the time as a result, while there was a war, the party was here on its own. here we remained in power, but i wanted to give up, they had no more such opportunities , the opposition press appeared, they lost the first fair elections, this is always the case, orban just actually spread this uh-uh situation in peacetime and in other ways absolutely correctly creating tools to support their own media and that is why it turns out that the opposition liberal hungarian media do not have such competitiveness, i am not talking about
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television . this means that, in principle, some steps begin to erode the regime. you can see what erdoğan is doing in turkey. he is trying to imprison the mayor of istanbul. although he himself was the mayor of istanbul, they also tried to imprison him. it's just so interesting. thank you for the tour about the media. how does it all work in croatia and hungary, which are the big tv shows? i'll tell you the secrets, and this is also a very similar tool. you know, i'm like a ram , just op. you see how hard it is to remember the hell until the
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night, the hell until the night, everything goes out immediately, you know, if you don't see us, but we are putin by and large, it must be said that he simply put all the existing media under his control in russia, he closes the liberal ones correctly, but all tv channels have long been under the control of the moscow kremlin, i will tell you that how it was , the tv channel was first brought under complete control somewhere during the first two or three years of putin's rule. then after 2004, it was the second term of all print media and internet media are influential around this time, which means that print media also became fully controlled, then came the time of the internet, almost by the 14th year, internet media were brought under control in crimea and then after this is a beautiful quote in the shadows.
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by the way, and then in the er period er after at the beginning of the second world war, all these platforms that were used to demonstrate pseudo-freedom of speech were destroyed because they also had norms of behavior, you see, echo of moscow there a part of the liberal public came, but it was always balanced by different strong forces. it was such a salary, i think - i always told my colleagues that you understand why we give words to human rights defenders by an opposition politician, but you pretend that the position of these human rights defenders of progressive liberal politicians, this is also exactly the position of someone there, i'm sorry , you didn't make a complaint about serhiy markov or someone else. do you think that this is a discussion, but there can be no discussion of an honest person and a criminal, a thief should
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be in prison. you don't think that's what we have. it was exactly on medvedchuk's channels. well, by the way, i have to tell you that medvedchuk himself seems to have believed in this lie or did he use it. we talked with igor edvan about this story about how putin perceives information, and there is already a whole paragraph about you know medvedchuk and who says that medvedchuk had a special phone for communication with putin, that is, he had something that no president of ukraine has, and he convinced putin that if putin sends in troops, all ukrainians will applaud because they all consider themselves russians imagine you are asking about the number one question, by the way, i would like to ask this question by the way or to ask medvedchuk vitya, and you told me that because you believed in it and about seniors or because you would get money from the hotel well, that is interesting well it seems to me that i don't know. maybe we're just idiots. well, inside ukraine, you don't
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see the moods. i don't know. i see a lot of such people. i'll remember for the rest of my life how dmytro vasyliovych and i became pavlychka in 1990 or 1991. soon the soviet union will be gone and we are talking to the head of the department of some heavy coal industry there - this is the cpsu named slobodianyuk, a ukrainian, we can order in ukrainian, he knows well, it's clear well, i'm telling him about my trip to donbass, i've been to donbass with frequent miners they already hated everything in the world. pavlychko was very interesting, we also started to develop a spirit with him. he came up and told me all these impressions. and slobodyanuk looks at me and says, boy. well, what are you saying? the miners all love the party very much, and i looked at him in his eyes and i understood that he is not a joker no no no he is not joking he is not joking no he thought so and i thought so well how do you understand
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that a person lives in a certain environment and there is an environment and in this environment everyone considers themselves russian and these are all nationalists well if they are not from lviv, they are just pretending, they understand that they are russian and as khodakovsky wrote, come on, most people will remember that they are russian. and those who think that they are ukrainian nationalists are suitable for power, but there are not many of them. khodakovsky, why couldn't medvedchuk think so, we sometimes underestimate the level of their debilitation, they don't live, they don't drive, you know, they don't communicate with people in public transport well, oksana marchenko came from where she worked on the inter channel yes and medvedchuk can ask. and what does oksana think, simple people, here you are, you
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have such a girl, they are trying to make conversation in russian clearly, of course, in russian, because they know yazyke and also hahaha and she led ukraine, she has talent, it seems let's get out there in ukrainian in ukrainian, you don't doubt ukraine, well done medvedchuk well , i doubt it because he likes the ukrainian language, obviously he doesn't, but he needs to be taken from below now in ukrainian, but then when the owner is coming, we'll talk in russian, you know it all for money i don't know the whole story. it sometimes seems to me that we overestimate the level of their awareness when a person finds himself in a situation where he is not at the top of the government and so on. psychological compensation begins. a person pushes information that may be unpleasant to him out of his head. that's what we're talking about now. about the bubble of social networks and this bubble of people who are in power, it started even before the
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emergence of social networks, we all do not like to read bad things about us svitlyk, it annoys us, especially when we think that they are not motivated and somehow destroying reality, she really said it in our head, but we live in a world of different people, we understand that there may be people who will say you are doing a great job, it may be human to listen to what you are talking about here for an hour, it would be better to sing something and read the comments under our videos they will sound completely different. but if you are putin or if you are medvedchuk and you may not want this, then you will not be. they will do everything for you so that you do not know anything. i was all in the eye with vladimir vladimirovych, then everyone there would have written to write. i am simply delighted with your performance, but one of you said so clearly, you know another one,
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i was here at that time with the generals, they asked you to convey greetings andreevich, and they just delighted by your leadership talents, medvedev wrote out tasks for the government. i saw him sitting like a dolphin. he cried when he spoke. he remembered you. he said, i have never seen a politician of such a scale. vladimir vladimirovich, how is he there? i heard you're reading. well, there appears some crazy person who says no. you are tyrants, murderers, that's for sure. agent of the west, saboteur, spy, traitor. well, i'll come after him, his ip address and everything . in such a world, you make such decisions as putin makes because you simply do not understand what other decisions can be made , you have no intellectual alternative. moreover, when in fact you are, i apologize for the ice 18 and not peter i, but an ordinary, ordinary petty agent
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some inept soviet counter-intelligence and everything and everything oh peter the first there, well i apologize well after all, peter the first's father was a king, grandfather was a king, great grandfather was a king and so on . talk about it because you can talk about it for the next few hours, and we are already approaching the end of our wonderful conversation with you. thank you for the medicine . thank you very much. with tv channel espresso sh
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