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merry christmas greetings, dear viewers, on the espresso tv channel, the studio program will analyze the most important events. of course , the meeting between presidents biden and zelensky in washington was key . new additional sanctions packages, this applies not only to the russian federation, but also to iran. our guests today, daniel fried, are one of the architects of the american sanctions policy, who over

he has worked in the american state department for 4 decades, knows about the sidelines of world politics, if not everything. he will be able to voice almost everything, of course, far from everything. also, our second guest will be a sociologist, journalist, former member of the state duma from the opposition russian party, apple, ihor yakovenko, our first guest, daniel vitayu and glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, the visit of president zelenskyi to the united states was realized, he met with president joseph biden , he met with representatives of the american of the parliament how do you assess what, for example , was left out of public notices what was the most important in your opinion mr. ambassador zelenskyi i think that president zelenskyi had three goals: first, to encourage the americans to send more weapons to ukraine, and more modern weapons; the second, even

more important goal was to invest and increase american political support for ukraine. it is important that this support continues, and i think that zelensky's address to the congress was intended to continue and increase this support. the goal is to conduct strategic consultations with the president of the united states. because this is your own time, which is reminiscent of the time between churchill and roosevelt, before the united states entered the war, now i do not think that the united states is going to war with russia. we are not going to, we do not want it, but we want to continue to support ukraine , so the two presidents had to have a face-to-face conversation about the survival of ukraine in vienna with the russian aggressor, which is ongoing and it was a very serious conversation, we all want

victory for ukraine, as the president said zelenskyi and it was necessary to check the clocks regarding what the battlefield looks like, what russia looks like, what putin looks like and where we are going, this was the most important summit dear mr. ambassador , the key issue, without a doubt, is the issue of war and peace and, accordingly, the question of how far the united states is willing to go in helping we need to defend our sovereignty and our independence, and taking into account the genocidal practices used by the russian federation, it is possible that we are talking about saving the lives of hundreds of thousands of ukrainians, because the russians are preparing to destroy objects of our energy infrastructure and people can simply freeze , the russians will physically kill them with cold. well, accordingly, now the key issue is not even about money, and our commander, general zaluzhnyi, said

approximately how many tanks we need in order to implement our counteroffensive operations, to return our territories and this is a matter of long-range systems, such as abrams m1 tanks and so on. and so on, the americans are fighting for their lives. i think that president zelenskyy coped very well with his task, he thanked the americans for help and also pushed them to provide even more help, the task was not easy but he succeeded. putin does not win on the battlefield , that is why he is trying to destroy ukraine by destroying its energy infrastructure, i do not think he will succeed, but we in the west must help ukraine both militarily, yes

and as part of supporting its infrastructure. it costs a lot of money. now the us congress is considering a huge budget package worth 45 billion dollars of aid to ukraine. i hope it will be approved. we will talk about it soon we will find out that you are absolutely right that the united states should continue to provide ukraine with weapons, increasing their quantity and quality. the americans have already done a lot, so this is a war in which there are still many uncertainties. and we do not know whether the next ukrainian attacks will be successful. we

suspect that if the russians try attack and they will fail. we also know the stress the ukrainian economy is currently experiencing due to russian attacks, but there is also certain evidence that russia is under stress just as much . a lot has been put in the balance, it is not known how it will turn out, recently putin paid a visit to belarusians, he met with lukashenko, because we understand what was the main goal of putin's visit to belarus, we understand that maybe they are not will have a sufficient number of military forces to try to break through our border, but in any case they can use powerful missile systems to bombard our cities

, it is about central and western ukraine in your opinion. what did the meeting between putin and lukashenka lead to? lukashenka supports putin politically and in general. but like franco, the spanish dictator of the second world war, he is not quite ready to undertake to support someone else's aggressive war. i cannot to give you an answer. will belarus enter the war on the side of russia, and i cannot say what will happen if it does try to do so, i do not think that the belarusian army and the belarusian people are delighted with this idea, because the belarusian democratic opposition is in a certain sense fighting the same struggle as the ukrainian people struggle for independence and freedom, but i can

not and will not predict whether putin will try to launch a new offensive on the territory of belarus. russian resources are limited, putinism is a system based on lies and robbery, total lies and robbery have weakened the russian army as well as russia as a whole, but it doesn't matter that i think putin may try new attacks and we in the west should be ready to continue our support ukraine, russia, in particular, putin is preparing for the so -called long war, which tools are left in the hands of the west, in particular, economic and financial . perhaps there are some additional ones that would hurt the russian economy so much that they were forced to bother with negotiations with

all civilized humanity, we see that the sanctions package is being implemented one by one, the russian economy is standing, there are companies that provide the russian military with chips, with the help of which they begin to rebuild one or another missile systems, so that they then fly to our customs cities and kill we are a form of economic pressure on russia, which collective measure has either already recently started or is planning to intensify, first of all, it is about limiting russian exports, and lastly and the biggest example of this is the cap on the price of oil. it is a complex mechanism. it is not easy to apply it, but we can already see the results of depriving putin and russia of the income they need so much. therefore, russia's profits from the

sale of oil are reduced. you should not worry about this , because russia will trick this price cap . the car must be insured, because its purpose is to reduce the incomes of putin and russia, and there is every chance that it will be possible to do it the second time. can we draw conclusions from this example or are there others spheres of russian exports that we can influence, perhaps we have already managed to limit our own exports to russia, in particular microchips , which has affected the russian automobile industry and other types of production, so we see that it works, it will not and should not work perfectly, and yet it works well enough question in so are there other areas of export restrictions that we

can try i believe that both europe and the us are considering their next steps in this regard i would not be surprised if we see some in effect after the holidays and at the beginning of the new so you are absolutely right, we can put more pressure on the russian economy , it will work, but it will take time, because the main tool in our hands is, of course, a weapon for ukraine, and the support of the ukrainian energy infrastructure is our most urgent task, then the economic pressure on russia will increase with sometimes i remember the 80s when the economic pressure on the soviet union was not as strong as it is now and the soviet economy eventually collapsed. therefore, we need to increase the pressure on russia and my former colleagues in the administration the usa is thinking about how to do it, so i suspect that this is their plan. kissinger's peace plan

, president macron's statement and so on . this huge diplomatic pyramid because a lot of people during and immediately after the visit of president macron to washington, then president biden said that in principle he is not against negotiations, and president macron said that he does not want to force ukraine into negotiations that is why talks about potential negotiations did not take long. the very next day, the kremlin announced that the negotiations should begin with the recognition that russia has acquired new territories, that is, the russians are ready to

negotiate only on the basis of the capitulation of ukraine and the west, this is not a serious negotiating position , so i am not very interested in hypothetical discussions about negotiations when the kremlin is clearly not serious about negotiations at all, except on its own terms. i read henry keysin's article, the only interesting point in this article was that he said that ukraine and nato should deepen their relations . he also hinted at something like serious security guarantees for ukraine. and this is already interesting. the whole concept, the idea of ​​some others, is based on the fact that ukraine surrenders millions of people, as well as territories that russia illegally occupied by force, in particular, donbass and others, i don’t think that the kremlin is serious,

at least so far, the biden administration is right, it is not against negotiations, but it is helping ukraine to achieve the best possible results on the battlefield so that it can negotiate on its own terms as much as possible and not on putin's terms, and i think that president biden was quite clear about this during the negotiations with zelenskyi , however, there are too many people who really want to go to negotiations and for them the negotiations begin with ukraine handing over its people and its territory how long do you think the war can last, the main thing will take place on the battlefield, but there is an equally important question, it is still a question of resources, in your opinion, to what extent will the russian economy be ready to seriously transition to the so-called military rails. the impression is that they

are preparing to possibly wage a permanent war , that is, they will try to freeze the situation in certain areas of the front in order to, for example, deconserve them in the future, i don’t know, for six months of the year and so on. you are absolutely right that russia will probably consider a temporary the ceasefire as a moment to take a breather and regain strength and attack again this is obvious given that this is exactly what happened after 2014 she used the minsk process to buy time and prepare the next attack it would be foolish to expect something else from ukraine, but i don't like to behave foolishly, but the question is whether putin can succeed, and this is not clear to me, the russian economy is in a deplorable state, russian society does not support the war, it is forced

to express its support and talking on russian state television, i can imagine that outside of a small extremist part of russian society, the majority of russians do not care, and hundreds of thousands of young people testify to this who fled the country to avoid the draft. this is a small patriotic war, it is something similar to the russian-japanese war or the first world war, which russia lost, the suffering of the ukrainians is huge, the russian people either have no idea or do not care, but they certainly would not want to experience what the ukrainians are experiencing now and i think that putin understands this and that is why time is not necessarily on his side if ukraine can survive this winter and if we in the west are serious about economic pressure on russia, in particular through military and economic support of ukraine, this it is not easy, but president zelenskyi was right , the support of ukraine from the us is

uncharitable, it is an investment in our own security, yes, dear mr. ambassador, i agree with you, but on the other hand, we know the example of cuba, we know the example of north korea, that is, the standard of living fell rapidly and was at the bottom, but people carried out the criminal orders of their generals and their secretaries of the communist party, and accordingly now we have a different story, it is extremely dangerous to talk about iran and its ballistic program. are there any sanctions mechanisms that would allow iran to be pressured so much that it does not supply ballistic missiles to the russian federation with the help of which it will kill us, it is true that russia is strengthening its relations with iran and iran is supplying russia with

weapons, i suspect that north korea is doing the same as for our pressure on iran, we are doing a lot in this regard, and i do not think that additional pressure will in any way put an end to the arms trade, and between iran and russia, their trade relations are strategically not affect the course of the war, weapons are not enough good, i don't think that iran will be able to influence anything in particular, it is not clear to me that russia will gain from the continuation of this war, they can only lose putin does not look like a confident person, he canceled his new year's press conference, the new year's reception, as well as his address to of the russian duma. did he do it because of his poor health, or maybe he is afraid of the reaction, in any case, this is not a sign of a confident leader. we must

remember this. we are aware of our own needs and also what is the suffering of the ukrainians that we don't know. so what kind of pressure is the russian system under? i suspect that it is under quite strong pressure. they will not win the war. they know this well. it is a sign that the west and the democracies have not turned out to be as divided and weak as putin expected and hoped . putin is in global isolation, do you think the next prime minister benjamin netanyahu will be satisfied with such relations between putin and iran india has already canceled its annual summit with russia for the first time in 20 years russia is isolated and we must to remember even as we resolve our own differences that the differences in russia and russia's weaknesses may be even greater former president of the russian federation

medvedev the person who replaced putin in office the person who is responsible for the war against georgia and so on the person who is now making simply inadmissible obscene statements writing all kinds of nonsense in his twitter, so dmitry medvedev met with sidzinpin. i don't know what powers he had, it is about medvedev, there is an assumption that he brought in general, i would ask you to decipher any possible verbal or written proposal from putin, and what is china's position and to what extent china will be ready to influence the russian federation in order to restrain or suppress putin's imperialist desires. do you think that the chinese are shocked by putin's failed war against ukraine? i do n't think so. do you think they were satisfied with the fact that russia started this war

right after the chinese and russians made an agreement that talked about friendship without limits i don't think so i think the chinese shocked by how russia has shown itself militarily they are shocked by its strategic miscalculations by its clumsiness in dealing with what it can neither control nor stop russia has always been china's junior partner at least for the last few years now it is quite obvious that it is an aggressive incompetent junior partner, i doubt that the chinese will take a risk for the sake of putin, in addition, do not forget that the chinese have big problems, the chinese government has changed its decision on covid restrictions, now covid is spreading very quickly, i leave what will hit the their economy, whose economic growth is low, these belligerents, joe biden, had

a pretty good meeting within the framework of the g20, which means that the chinese may not want to increase their confrontation with the united states, moreover, they saw that the west is not as weak as they imagined and that they are not strong as they hoped, what does this mean for russia, this should alarm any serious strategist in the kremlin, if there are any left, that china is not going to support russia, sinking more and more into the quagmire of putin's adventures, i think that the chinese will not risk violating american sanctions , even limiting the price of oil, they will not agree to limit the price of oil, but they can watch it silently . miscalculations, and his current position is much weaker than

last year. so now is christmas, as president zelensky said. i think that the ukrainian people who are fighting for their lives will succeed. i think that the victory is yours and that's why glory to ukraine glory to the heroes thank you very much ambassador frit for this extremely important conversation and at the same time thank you for everything you do for ukraine and i want to remind our viewers that now on the air of the espresso tv channel , a former coordinator of the united states department of state for sanctions policy worked for them which is one of the creators of the american system of sanctions, and now our guest will be ihor yakovenko , a journalist, a sociologist, an ex-deputy of the state duma from the opposition party, an apple, glory to ukraine, sir igor i congratulate you as a hero of the word putin and his entire military criminal clique held an extended

meeting of the ministry of defense and we understand the key issue - this is a new, possibly fundamental, new phase of the russian-ukrainian war, in particular , it is said that they are going to increase the population of mobilized to 1.5 million people , yes, i understand that the so-called goals of the war, well, apart from these or other genocidal practices, that is, the destruction of the presence of ukrainians in the separately taken territories, which russia would like to occupy, because they still did not voice the puck says that instead of a million, the army needs one and a half million, instead of 400, we need 600,000 contacts. well , this is such an inertia. it has

a definite meaning, but in reale, the decisive factors are ours. what is the meaning for the hammers? again, the demand will overwhelm the enemy with corpses, this demand was to some extent effective during the second world war, but now the war is a very different one, in fact, we are really present at a complete war of a completely different type, it will probably be it has been repeatedly researched by military analysts and historians, but it is already clear that now the ratio of manpower is decisive, therefore, of course, what happened today at the meeting with the defense testifies to the fact that , after all, putin

and the defense ministers, who actually have nothing to do with the events leading up to the war, but here is an interesting point, that is, that it is managed by the ministry of defense , that it was held by these or other consultations with putin, in particular, it is about their rendezvous in taiz, i do not know what happened to them there, but as they say, this is already a thing of the past. well, accordingly, we understand that he was among the initiators of the inspirers. and now the impression is that he was moved a little, perhaps he and the chief of the general staff gerasimov because new favorites appeared, that is, prigozhin already as if he is starting to subjugate the whole direction, but all the same, putin pulls out shoigu and gerasimov, the thing is even from putin’s bid, putin is dried up, obviously he will not surrender either the puck or gerasimov because it will mean a-a

public recognition of his defeat, as for of new old favorites, such as prigozhin kadyrov and so on, well, with prigozhin, of course, we are dealing with pure oprichnina when, er, the existence of such an out-of-system player as prigozhin, for example, has already become er not easy it has become noticeable to you that it has become a defining feature of our beauty. she has her own private army. she has absolutely unique powers. she comes to the prison, opens the door with her foot, and takes away any number of criminals. -m throw these people to free them actually from punishment, they are unique in general eh not prescribed in any

law official status, and he received such opportunities, and above all, this is explained by the fact that at the very beginning of the war it was clear that the ministry of defense was not able to cope with this war, it was not able to fight effectively in any way, it became clear literally in the first days of the war and if do you remember that from the very beginning you were not allowed to participate in this war, so today you were not invited to participate in this war, although in general he already fought for a long time and fought on the side of russia in the donbass, fought in syria, fought in africa and so further but now today they invited but the first one didn't show up he found out that the russian army can't fight and that's why, among other things, prigozhin was sued he really

is one of his well, what is he called a good man? away with a favitsa against a good man and a self-made man, what was found out, for example, er, the encounter on bakhmut, where for several months he asked the man bakhmut, but he collided with er , professional ukrainian soldiers of the army and in general, he broke his forehead, although during the fasting of zelenskim, he was frowning in general. on the other side of the front, he said that vladimir savych, dear , we are coming to you , we are waiting. now marzyankoy and er arranged some clown demonstrative shots in the direction of ukrainians