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this is a dude and he works. there is a dynamic. well, i think so, if there are questions, and i asked my colleagues how much we believe, the prosecutor's office should run. the guy, the reputation, told me that the reputation is normal. it means well . we are waiting for a solution and based on that we will decide дальше примеры э-э наши решения already что делать дальше спасибо большое сергей лагодинский, a member of the european parliament from the german green party, was with us, thank you once again and what and and we were transferred for two minutes as far as i understand yes, they confirm it here it's not that simple, you know, it's not that well -equipped studio. as we have it on the third floor, that's why we're here in addition to conducting the program to cross-talk, we conduct negotiations directly in the whole room , there are all the people who provide this
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broadcast, so they tell me that we need to take a break for a couple of minutes, let's take a break and listen to people who suffer from rheumatism. but it's arthritic , it's impossible to get used to it, it doesn't allow me to move . i've tried everything. and at the pharmacy, i bought yellow cream dolgit, it saves me from pain with rheumatism relieves pain reduces swelling and improves mobility dolgit - the only yellow cream for pain in the joints and back cinema television sports music education free people have a choice choose what you want on megogo time when ordinary things acquire miraculous properties time to gather together to celebrate and we will decorate
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our christmas trees even in during the war, our christmas trees will become places of strength, we will meet christmas together with our military, all together we will become even stronger, and as in carols, light defeats darkness, so in life, ukrainians will defeat moscow's zays, look with a sincere eye to god's son, to our land, to ukraine , a gift came down from heaven, so that it may be glorified. in eternal life, merry christmas. join the community with a ukrainian view of the world. become a sponsor of the espresso youtube channel. and this is access to exclusive content, personal thanks, pinned comments, special icons and the possibility of personal communication with
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the espresso team, click to sponsor and become part of the community with a ukrainian perspective, let's listen to people suffering from rheumatism. but arthritic can't get used to it, it doesn't let you move. i've tried everything and at the pharmacy, i bought a yellow dolgit cream, it saves me from pain in rheumatism, and less improves the mobility of the joints. until
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it flew to lviv, where we are now. i hope i'm not wrong. well, we'll sit here anyway until the repulse happens and we can't go back to the mountain where we usually work. yes, it's much warmer, more comfortable. so i would say that christ was born, let us praise him , glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, all these words must be repeated and not be lazy, but we must also work, and we will not work yet, i guess . many guests, i.e. they just take off. they first agree and then something. well, you saw the destroyer. we talked to the ambassadors, like the ambassador in poland, everything was interrupted there, too. we hope that it will not be interrupted in let 's go. i will answer the question because i have no options. if there
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is someone who joins the broadcast, well, then we will join him and we will communicate with him. so, i answered about snyder, who says that the war has an imperialist character and then russia will always be my empire someone i know has such a philosophy, it is very smart, one of the smartest. she said that the russians are on the hunt, this is a nation if something is missing. she does not like to do it. besides, it is so big that you have to find something, that means that one is a hunter, they are hunters, we are such an agricultural person, we are not, that means
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we have to sow, wait, fertilize, do something , then we have a harvest, trade, go , sell, earn again, produce, sell, and so on and so forth and behave in the same way europeans, if you don't have something, you have to make it or borrow it or buy it or pay it. is it somehow possible to even steal it ? the chinese to a certain degree of industry, and the russians simply captured the territories back there in some century when the main thing was this, for example, there, er, meh, yes, what are they doing there? something else
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well, in short this and this is all they got all the fur somewhere in siberia, for example, yes, that’s why she is like that somewhere, you have to hunt, you have to find , you have to capture, you have to take, and so on and so on, if someone told me not only that there is a guest and her who was it very nice boris kushniruk, my old friend , it is very nice to see you, mr. borisova. this is such a unique event for today, because there are not so many opportunities. somewhere they jump off, you didn’t jump off, you didn’t jump off, it’s very nice to see you, borisov, look, how much, how much, how much
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can we believe that ukraine will receive these hundreds, maybe billions of arrested people. or somewhere there for the reserved ones in america in europe there i am not for australia in japan in ukraine here i just had a question for you that three billion hryvnias have arrived from the nationalization of subsidiaries of russian banks this is all money this is a realistic picture of them receiving this contribution this is it desirable for valid, let's talk about the terminology, and first of all, avoid the term contribution, because the contribution is paid only as a result of the fact that the country admitted its defeat in the war and signed the capitulation together with the capitulation of you you sign an agreement on the contribution and it was like that after the first, second and second world wars
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uh-uh, now that won't happen uh-uh and no one expects that russia will write an agreement on capitation in this form, so uh-uh, we'll talk about it, it can go not about the contribution a this is about compensation , first of all, and i advise you to use this term in constant circulation, and now regarding the compensation itself, the problem is also very difficult, because it consists of two components of compensation for causing damage to a material asset, e.e., damaged property and so on, although again, i have a very significant complaint against the actions of the government, because it has not yet developed a mechanism and implemented a mechanism for accounting for all damaged property, especially of citizens . i'm sorry, but people are forced to live somehow, so they
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are already restoring their property on their own, so if this is not done, then people in fact cannot claim compensation and this is a serious problem. i have already written several times and well laiksi on this matter, but unfortunately there are no actions from the government, moreover, one can take control of why even such a phrase but everything is the same to these people and no one will compensate for anything ah, which in my opinion is just such frank cynicism that's why it is there is a problem a, but in principle we are talking about the fact that we can claim compensation for damaged lost property or significant a-a and when it comes to legal entities, they are largely able to do some work ah you compose and so on and uh then have already filed lawsuits, including collective
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lawsuits against russia on this matter, as far as it concerns individuals, there are very, very serious problems here, and there is a second problem that is unusual. i even had a conversation with our leading ukrainian lawyers about this matter. human capital, can you imagine what we are talking about, well, in reality, hundreds of thousands of ukrainians have already died. i mean both the military and, er, civilians , and today thousands of those who have been disabled or seriously injured, er, they too something should be compensated. unfortunately , there is no such thing in the practice of world practice, and i wrote that in the spring that such a practice should be created on a large scale, and it is also a task for our lawyers. i know that
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representatives of legal companies even communicate with the legal society the world community as such practice, well , implement it, because it is unusual and it is not so simple, because there can be sabbatical , including from the side of western countries, because to one degree or another, they participated in some hostilities in other countries, well, first of all, the usa, many countries of the world, and in principle, in theory, then the question can be raised that similar claims regarding the loss of human capital can also be made to them, so from this point of view, they say that there may be sedition, but in my opinion if this practice is not implemented, that is, in compensation for the loss of human capital, and in my opinion, from the point of view of real sentiments for the country, it is no
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less terrible than the loss of physical assets , so if this practice does not exist, it means that well, it will not make this practice unacceptable , i.e. the death of people, and during the war, the war itself should be recognized not just as a crime, but that it should have concrete compensation for the loss of human life, for the loss of all the wounded , and so on, that's all related to this, this is such a problem, so that it is clear now about how, wait, wait, wait, a very important question with the second with the second question we understood that since there is no textbook on how to compensate for death yes, how much is a person worth? first of all, is there a creation of, are there any textbooks, are there any developments in world
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jurisprudence regarding international mechanisms of this compensation, what do we know that we have , well, there are a lot of questions, i have another question, for example, how this is what is done in the world, what should be created is some institute of people who check whether i lied or not, they understood something in my window and i was writing and broke three windows. well, in order to make money, someone has to come and say september, i am lying to him, not three windows but one that's why he doesn't have 3,000 hryvnias, but one one thousand hryvnias means that there must be some kind of history here, then secondly, who should determine? indeed , i have to determine whether an independent body should determine it, it is necessary to create this independent body, who should trust well, i trust this independent body, i don't trust the independent body, i can dare to go to court and say no, i was not compensated that way, well
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, that is, the judges should come up with some kind of compensation courts, a whole separate, some kind of court, that is, maybe somewhere in croatia, maybe somewhere in vietnam. there are already seeds like this compensation was carried out, who was not involved in it, or could it be the un, what kind of independent body will be created in short, here is a series of questions for you to answer, i understand that there are 150 questions, more than the possible time to answer, but excuse me, mr. boris, think something out loud about the thoughts that in my voice, look, in fact, you asked questions that, well, have quite a-a specific legal mechanism, e-e, settlement in this is very regulated. simply, if there are acts of damaged property , what is not there for physical persons a-a and what
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legal entities do if there are acts, although, again , even a physical legal entity. i know examples when people simply fold their hands and just restore their assets . it is activated, and they restore it and do it, but theoretically, legal entities have the opportunity after drawing up the acts, well, with appropriate documentation of this, photos, the act and witnesses, and so on, the time of the event, yes, all the components, then they have the opportunity transfer the documents or independently a-a apply to international courts e-e in europe e-e regarding the compensation to be paid to russia well, for example, you understand that when it comes to people there, there are a lot of people, well, for example
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, billionaire akhmetov, he will be able to independently conduct legal proceedings against russia for its destroyed azov salmariupolsky ilyich for eh needles for eh other enterprise of the energy sector what he has destroyed or damaged, he has someone to deal with it and he will be able to do it independently in other cases it will be necessary to form the so-called collective lawsuits when there is a body and this is the body that should be in ukraine, well, the ministry of justice, which should draw up all these acts and then submit them to the international court of justice, that is, the procedure is, in principle, obvious and simple, and here why is it important this is documentation because international courts, by the way, ukrainian courts. they will not accept emotional stories. there
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, property was damaged, and there, it was broken. damaged, how damaged, what are the photos , what happened, what, what, what happened to this or that property, if the property was completely destroyed, what kind of property was there, were there documents confirming that it was such and such a room with such an area made of such and such materials, and yes further, that is, there is a whole set of english procedures, and it is such a very, very, bureaucratic, documented work, but without its implementation, then no court will take it seriously, that is , unfortunately, the ministry of justice and the legal our body and in general, the government does not do this, for me it is a big claim, because then the question and the last question , we just don’t have time, we still have
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one more guest and i need to talk to him . a picture of the difficulties, that it is necessary to document, photograph, record the time of the arrival, what specific damage, etc. advise people that i have a company, there are three pharmacies, two of them are completely damaged and one is partially damaged, and i have a place to ask what i need . what documents do i need ? in ukraine, there are people who can appear, maybe even on television. maybe
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on a program like the one i'm hosting with you right now, and a person comes and sits next to me. i ask a question, he says, for this, you need yes, yes, yes, and if there are no such and such five documents the european court has judged that there are such people in ukraine. please, where are the people? the question, of course, is that it should be done centrally. i would like to make a very important remark, after all, how will the compensation take place in the future, the self-determination of its international courts does not mean that after that you can take away some russian assets, it is not such a simple story either. that it is necessary to divide the assets of the oligarchs and the assets of the russian state, so, in fact, it is also property, so the courts are very careful to take away such property.
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therefore, the decisions that will fix the amount of what must be compensated, but then i am almost at i am 100% sure that later it will be about the fact that the russians will force . well, not putin. of course it will be after putin. and that you must agree to sign an agreement on the payment of compensation in such and such an amount, and there we will be talking about hundreds of billions of dollars. perhaps even trillions of dollars, and one of the first losses will be this, for example, the frozen gold and currency reserves that are now frozen will go to compensation, and then within 10-15-20 you have to pay a certain amount annually in the form of condensation, so it will most likely be a procedure but in order to force the russians to agree not with the sanctions regime, not only will it be maintained, it will even be strengthened in order to say that you want to withdraw from the
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sanctions regime, please sign the compensation agreement and in this case we we are starting to weaken the sanctions regime in relation to you and this will force the political elites of russia and business cancels the business summer of russia to accept these conditions as a mechanism of the process, this is a very slow story it can occupy occupy perhaps even 10 years ago it is necessary to understand that it won't happen quickly, but that's it. i see such a mechanism as much more realistic than simply, er, the calculation that we will simply take and take away such a well, the courts of western countries and the state bodies of western countries, er, rather i will not accept everything because, well, there is the practice that exists. well, let's say that it is unacceptable for them, where is the sanctity of a private group? the economist
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explained to us not only the economist, but also the lawyer, as we found out today, explained to us that this is not an easy story and that a lot of effort must be made for in order to simply explain to the europeans how much russia has blamed and how much it must compensate ukraine and ukrainians as a result of this aggressive policy and aggressive actions and the war that russia started on february 24 of this year, now we have as i understand it, we are moving to religion, i am here i'm lost. i'm such a person, i wouldn't say that there's something in this mind. heorhiy kovalenko , a priest from the orthodox church of ukraine, the rector of the open orthodox university of st. sophia of wisdom is in touch with us. good health, father. thank you for finding time for us, i would like to ask you what everyone asks me is that i am such an irresponsible and not quite
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religious person. so i convey all this to you. and here you explain yourself. and i will explain a random and my point of view. every person and i always say do you want to drink twice drink it on the 25th and on the seventh don't you want once don't want at all don't sit at the table do you want twice sit at the table if you are very religious you can also celebrate muslim holidays or some other i don't know hindu well, it's up to everyone, for everyone, what's in their hearts, let them do it, but in the religious environment, it's really serious . we see that the catholic church and the greek catholics are starting to agree with each other. i always like it when priests talk to each other, it's always it becomes easier for everyone, what do you say, how much
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is it worth discussing, being nervous, writing letters in september, and do you note that i have it right here, that is, the letters here should be written like that, what you say, father, the topic of celebrating christmas on december 25. it is not the first year that it appears and appears precisely on the eve of the winter holidays, but this year the situation has changed in a certain way, firstly, the demand of society has become even more powerful, let 's say so, the political component has joined it, but now the military component is already full of desire for russification, decommunization. how do you want it? name it, but the church adopted it well, in fact , the church said that those communities who believe that they can celebrate christmas from 24 to 5, those who want to stay in tradition will celebrate 6-7, for example, we,
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for example, sophia of kyiv, already celebrated christmas today there were many new people whom i had not seen before, it was a holiday, even though it was alarming. yes, people stayed with us, they stayed outside the territory, then, thank god, they won the victory, the holiday took place, but we need such a wise decision, and it seems to me that it should be such that... is and the minority did not feel offended , that is, our proposal, for example, christmas holidays from the 25th to the seventh, so that we start celebrating with those who celebrate on the 25th and finish on the 107th and thus do not divide people and do not ask them questions either or will he be so and so and again, christmas is a very strange holiday, there is such a thing as the christmas holiday and it is possible that they should be moved to the period from the 25th to the seventh, but
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we saw yesterday that there was a meeting of his beatitude sviatoslav, the head of the ukrainian greek catholic church, with the metropolitan epiphany, the most blessed head of the orthodox church of ukraine, one of the issues is the creation of a joint commission on the calendar issue , so it seems to me that now is the period when there is no need to be afraid, when no one in the country has fear, then it is possible to solve those issues that sometimes seem very difficult, but in fact all calendars created by people, people created them, people will change them, sir, one more question, that is, i, you already touched on it in your answer, because i had another important question, this is ka- canon canon, that is, there is no for if we celebrate the 25th, this does not prohibit me from celebrating the seventh, and the church treats this as if it were very simple and says well, okay, let's do it. yes, you said to start from the 24th to the 25th
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. and you can end with the seventh. that is, not in the canonical case. you can mark it only once, you can mark it twice or extend such a marking from the 24th to the seventh, there are no questions, correct. i understood correctly, moreover, the canon is a rule, and the rules are set by people, that is, even today, the rule is to respect the choice of another and to do everything so that people unite, how to unite those different points of view, to give the right to others, to do as they are closer, but to do it in such a way as not to condemn the other, and not to separate from him, that's why i think that it's just e- if our society goes on the path of democratization and dialogue - solving problems in dialogue, i think that the church is also returning to the congregation, moving away
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from such a rigid totalitarian authoritarian imperial vertical. and really, as it always was in ukraine, in principle, everything should be resolved soborna, that is, together with the council and taking into account the point of view not only of the majority but also of the majority . referring to the fate of the moscow patriarchate in russia, not in ukraine , in ukraine, sooner or later this issue will be resolved because there simply will not be any faithful left or there will be a small number left, but when you look at the 10 commandments and you see that the russian patriarch is out of 10 and all 10, some of me are
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all ten or half, well, this is not christianity, this is something. well, whatever and accordingly and the faithful treat it the same way when every russian says beat quietly, the barn is killed and more raped these thieves well, i am sitting i think this crisis has to happen somehow, something has to happen, it can't exist, it can't exist, christian doctrine can't be so distorted and so neglected, what is fate, what can happen tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, a year from now, 10 years, 15 years, such a discrediting of christianity that is happening now, it's just me no, i'm not, i'm an atheist, but i'm not like that, you know , namoliny, but i look at me, i'm about well, how i read books and i well, this is absurd, it can't be like that because it can never be, i said chekhov, well, there is a good secular word lustration yes and unfortunately chandelier
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