in the same way, to this day, in some of its moments, it shows its relationship to the same moscow patriarchate. i believe that in the moscow patriarchate, a change is taking place , a generational change, because those soviet bishops whom we were looking at when there was a picture of the metropolitan bureau that the same metropolitan onufriy is meeting he was one of the signatories who revoked his signature from the resolution of the city council of the year 90 on the full autocephaly of the ukrainian orthodox church from moscow, i.e. in he has such an upbringing, he is a soviet soviet hierarch with his pluses and minuses , the same bishop agafangel odesa , also bishop mark kuz and bishop pavlo are also from that twine, that is, it must be clearly understood until there is a change in the internal structure of of the very structure, or the revolution

can start from the bottom, after all, the deceptive path that the uoc took at the cathedral on may 27 of last year, as of today , i already show that it was just a chameleon and an eye of affection due with the changes that were made to the statute on the management of the ukrainian orthodox church, to this day it is clear to everyone that the uoc, as it was the mp, has remained so because the word demarcation is used by metropolitan onufry and the leadership of this church. this does not mean leaving the moscow patriarchate, so nothing in after all, people have eyes and ears, and even priests, er, they also begin to understand that everything that happened happened only er, as they say in the past. well, this is strange. i am grown people who did such things as i said long

careers in the bosom of the church and such an impression that they do not realize that each of their steps is obvious, it can be calculated, it can be checked from the point of view of compliance with economic law, why was such a strange and wrong tactic chosen, i cannot answer this question because i am talking to some of the bishops of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, they still do not understand why exactly this is happening and who will be responsible for it, since they there is only one answer, pray somehow it will happen, but it’s one thing to talk about it in kyiv in a warm cozy monastery in theophany, another thing to be in the dioceses where every day the possible arrival of the believers themselves is possible in our in our society services of god’s ukraine with an overview e of what is on the

subject of search e-e activity that contradicts the legislation of ukraine e and e there are many nuances that today for the uoc itself are incomprehensible to the sacred authority and the sacred authority will teach by choosing tactics of er attack er, accordingly, if we take into account the decision of the last synod, you saw patriarch kirill at the extended colleagues of the ministry of defense of the russian federation. yes , i saw some photos. and this is not surprising at all. he has attended such er events before. i think that he is he attended similar events and there is nothing strange here, because the russian orthodox church and the moscow patriarchate are one of the pillars of putin's totalitarian regime, and with the fall of one , the fall and collapse of the other will follow. and i

think that in such a composition i would like to see them on the dock of gasses, to what extent is there an understanding of this role of the russian church as part of the aggression in our society in general now? what do you think, well, the further the more, because a lot of facts of collaborative activity are revealed and society begins to improve , including the church society to your question, will there be, as they say, a sense of the negotiation process and immediately start and convey what is happening in our society to the consciousness of our fellow citizens. thank you, vladyka i wish you bright holidays. christ is born , let us glorify him. metropolitan of the orthodox church of ukraine oleksandr

drabynko is on the air. the new ilian calendar and this is what the church revolution said from below. of the relevant church authorities, then the transition to the calendar, and here i see that a huge number of people themselves are switching to something, relatively speaking , to the new julian calendar, that is, they are essentially celebrating christmas with the whole world, with the catholic world , with the protestant world, and with the orthodox world. i talk about this all the time. now it has been explained by metropolitan oleksandr draynikom, of course there is a difference in determining the date of easter in the gregorian and new illian calendars, but there are no disagreements related to all other great days christian holidays, first of all the

christmas holiday, and of course this is possible without a point of any fundamental importance if the ukrainian society had not lived according to its own gregorian calendar for a long time, and this concerns ordinary people who live in faith, who are resurrected people, but in any case, in everyday life they use this domestic calendar and it turns out to be very strange, they talked about it many times, but it is strange when first the new year and then christmas, there is no such rearranged calendar anywhere in the world , and i really hope that the current situation it will speed up the process of the transition of the ukrainian orthodox community to the same calendar to the same traditions that exist throughout the orthodox world, because today the ecumenical patriarch bartholomew addressed the believers in ukraine, the patriarchate of constantinople has long been celebrating christmas and other major

orthodox holidays for with the new ilyan calendar, i repeat, except for easter, this is a separate story, you can talk about it for a long time. why does this happen? i think that we are now the same, i tried to explain it, i explained it, but it is so theological history is the crown of which goes back to ancient times and it takes a long time to explain. how did it happen? what were the relations between different christian churches? how was it all reflected in the determination of the date ? in a week, it's not that difficult, er, i think the situation needs to be resolved in decades. i really hope that the commission created by the leaders of the ukrainian greek catholic church and the orthodox church of ukraine will come to a solution that will really allow you to use both dates at first. and by the way, these two

dates are dates in the ukrainian calendar of holidays . and then, over time, december 25 will remain. like christmas day, and after that, january 1 will be the new year. that is, life will return to the logic that was broken a long time ago. serhiy shinka's question to mr. vitaly, after the second world war, the german nation went through a process of repentance, rethinking its nazi shame, do you believe that it is necessary to cleanse the russian nation and it is somehow difficult to call it a federal community, what should it be the depth of the catastrophe that at least the intellectual elite thought about the necessary changes, the changes should be important not only for the intellectual elite but for the whole society, the german nation went through a process of repentance, reinterpretation of its nazi shawl, because

we were in a destroyed and occupied state, this reinterpretation took place not in state structures, but in of society, the state structures themselves were created with the help of the allies in the occupied territory of germany, which received a new chance for statehood, and were aimed precisely at denazification. and by the way where another state structure was created, the structure of the german democratic republic with the support of the soviet union, such a real rethinking did not take place, as a result, we see the popularity of ex-communist and right-wing parties precisely in the eastern lands of the federal republic, where the german democratic republic was, there the party of the left will get the greatest results was created from the ruins of the citilistically unified party of germany , the alternative party for germany will get the biggest result there, so in this regard, of course, this is very important the fact that germany was an occupied

country or will russia be an occupied country? i think that this is a rhetorical question, so there will be no rethinking of the special i think that there may be an understanding that russia failed to implement its historical plans and then the territories that russia will have to lose will be exactly i always say that we just need to live another 20-30 years so that a new generation of russians will appear who will not perceive ukraine as an obvious part of historical russia , as the current generation of russians does not parts of historical russia are perceived by poland . and i assure you that in the 20s and 30s of the 20th century, poland was treated in this way, and those territories of poland that were part of the russian empire were treated exactly as russians treat ukraine today. it is necessary to clearly understand and understand that

only time can heal it, or can time heal the russians' vinnistic illusions, i don't know, because it's basically a pretty phenomenal thing that happens in the countries that create , turn into nation states, but remain with the imperial complex, that is an excellent example of such countries on the modern political map of the world is not only russia, by and large, a national state, 85% of ethnic russians live in this territory, and the national minority does not constitute a critical number that could interfere with the development of russia as a national state, but the problem is that russians do not want to treat their country as a national state , in fact they are constantly trying to turn it into an empire, the same applies to, say, the republic of turkey. the republic of turkey has long been the ottoman empire mustafaka, a turk, made an effort to transform this multinational

community into a national state, quite often surgically, but we see that the turkish republic always has the ambitions of the ottoman empire, and the impression is that the president of turkey just thinks in the categories of a person who is governed these are the categories in the past and that is why it is so easy for him to talk to putin, the leaders of national states talk to each other like imperial leaders, what an amazing phenomenon yes that i don't really imagine what the changes could be because the whole russian mentality exists on mythologizing the situation, you understand if there were 40 or 50% russians in russia and all the others were not russians one could think about the necessary changes because it is necessary to treat differently those with whom you live next

to. i would like the russians to start treating the people of russia differently, but i repeat , this is not a critical problem, even if you imagine that some russian republics can claim sovereignty, it is still not a critical problem for the russians themselves, who make up the majority of russians in the russian regions of russia. so, can there be a change in the very moral guidelines for this? this requires a real defeat in the war . for the first time, you and i are seeing a nuclear state at war. for the first time since world war ii, a nuclear state is in a major war, not in a local conflict. in the great war , we do not know what dark waters there are, we can imagine the options, the first option is that ukraine restores its territorial integrity, but on the territory of the russian federation, of course, no foreign troops enter will happen as a result of the fact that ukraine

will restore its territorial integrity , some kind of rethinking is a priority from the russians. i think that there is no option. will remain from the west, how many people will remain in this territory, what will be the results of radiation sickness for the population of these territories, this is generally about medicine, not about understanding, so we really don't know anything we know by and large that it is so easy to predict the zombification of russians by their own propaganda is frightening but not surprising because they want to be deceived. but why did hungarians , residents of latin america, and part of germans become victims of the influence of russian propaganda ? were you allowed to personally convince some of putin's supporters and open their eyes to the real state of affairs

in java, first of all, i do not believe in any propaganda for the russians' zombification. i believe that the russian television says what the russian people think. i don't believe in propaganda at all, you understand. i believe that the very concept of propaganda leads us to a completely different idea of ​​what we are dealing with. there are russian people, they existed for centuries due to expansion, and this expansion was successful if you look on the history of the territorial expansion of the moscow principality of a small state not on the outskirts of europe that became a huge empire. they live in these chauvinistic complexes because the expansion was successful but everything else was not successful. you

understand that the only possibility for civilization to happen is expansion. that is why it is not propaganda. why else are hungarians residents of the latin american region, part of the germans became victims of the influence of hungarians, and also different diohorians who agree with the russian part of the world are hungarians, which completely disagree with this, if you look at the hungarian media, you will see the difference in views, it is absolutely obvious why the inhabitants of the latin american country behave this way, because they are absolutely sure of because the main perialistic e-e burden for the world is not russia, but the united states of america, in order to read the history of the latin american continent, the relations of latin american countries first with spain and portugal, and then with the united states, you will then understand how these countries view europe on optics and this it's not even a question of ukraine, but when we try to explain that

ukraine is waging an anti-imperalist struggle, it starts to work, but then a question arises that is absolutely logical for any latin american. and why is ukraine in this the struggle is helped by the united states, who are imperialists, what 100 years ago we looked at latin america as our backyard, why can we look at latin america as our backyard and not some country of russia itself? what is the difference and you start saying that the world has changed and this is all a long, serious discussion, especially from the point of view of the actual consequences of russia's war against ukraine on latin america, it has a violent effect on africa, it affects latin america in general in connection with food, so far no yes that i think that this is not a problem of propaganda either, but a problem of priorities in relation to part of the germans . i think i have already said that people who have not undergone rethinking are evil, moral rethinking, they understand russian logic better, not because they do not know something,

everyone knows everything, believe me, it is a question of ignorance , a question of moral categories it is different for people and this is quite an important point, so when they say you ask me, uh, did you manage to convince any of putin's supporters, i never convince anyone, i generally think that it is impossible to convince a person that it is not a matter of availability or unavailability of information and it is a matter of moral imperative if a person has a different moral imperative than mine i will never explain anything to her i can force her to pretend that they share her moral imperative with me when she will believe that this is beneficial to her from a career point of view, and it was so in the 90s of the last century, when a huge number of my colleagues in russia were huge democrats, and as soon as it turned out that being a democrat is not popular and unnecessary, it does not bring career dividends. they returned to

their true views and are much more successful in these real fields than when they pretended to be a democrat. will the russians agree to this? no, i don't believe it, moreover, i think that russia will demand from ukraine the damages caused to it by the war. when ukraine makes a claim for reparations, it will receive huge sums from the very beginning, in order for the russians to agree to something, russia needs to really win , i.e. ukrainian troops must be in moscow, as once were the troops of the allies in berlin, if this does not happen, there will be no reparations , but there will be an effort to defend against russian missile strikes even in the situation of the complete liberation of our territory. that no one is accordingly a simple question, we liberated our territory and then a massive missile attack for

which russia was preparing covers our cities will destroy our critical structure simply they are also destroying kherson, donetsk, luhansk, yalta , simferopol. they are also burning. what can we oppose to this, except the air defense system? people who think that the war will end with liberated territories, not realizing that the young man is in a long conflict with a country that is not going to recognize us, that you , too, are not a question of reparations. in that how quickly will we be able to join nato or get such security guarantees that will convince russia that an attack on us is a war with a nuclear power other than such guarantees is not visible even in the distant future, but this does not mean that there is no need to fight for them, they are absolutely right , they say that now everything is impossible becomes possible, the germans want to reduce the number of voters to 16, what do you think about this, what do you think should be the optimal age of voters in ukraine?

in general, i think that the question is not in our age. people quite often remain children at 16 years old and at 30 years old and at 40 years old and at 50 and at 70 years old. always believes in a miracle, always looks for a simple answer to complex decisions and quite often makes suicidal decisions in elections , i don't think it's a question of the age of the voters, putin once again announced the new goal of the war in ukraine, the unification of the russian people , in the article by maxim the smart, what is putin fighting for expressed the opinion that putin's goals are not in ukraine and not in relations with the west, the main goals are inside russia, that the war with ukraine is only a way to achieve the internal political goals of the putin regime, namely the retention of the presidential chair. agree with this opinion together. i absolutely

agree that the war with ukraine gives vladimir putin the opportunity to solve a huge number of domestic political problems, including transforming russia from an authoritarian state into a totalitarian one, although at the same time i do not think that vladimir putin is in the foreseeable future at all there will be some problems with keeping the presidential chair if he is not killed or if he does not die suddenly then he can be president only as long as he wants and i don't see vladimir putin now serious what political problems, he just knows how to manage only such a society as he wants to suppress all the time, but as we can see, people prefer not to fight, but to run away. when they are threatened with danger , and this is the current state of russian society, i absolutely agree that putin's main goals are in russia, as in any -what other ruler, because for any ruler, war is always a way to solve internal political problems of reformatting

the regime. what many ukrainians do not understand, the author of this article obviously does not fully understand, if he perceives putin 's problems in this way, then putin's goals are in russia, he simply wants to add to russia a few more russian regions occupied by measures , and he means the region of ukraine and belarus, and that too part of this history if putin perceived ukraine and belarus as sovereign states as he perceives finland and sweden. then it was possible to confidently say that this war solves russia's internal political problems, but ukraine and belarus are part of russian domestic political problems, not foreign political problems, no one in russia, not putin, not the army, not the fsb, not the russian people, do not perceive

this country if it is external. these people are obviously nazis and therefore they must be expelled from russian historical lands by destroying the infrastructure that they use as simply elementary as any nazi state recently ukrainian historian yaroslav hrytsak characterized the generation of the 80s and 90s as beautiful, noisy, but impotent, a lot of noise, nothing. this caused quite a lively discussion in ukraine, are you greedy with a similar assessment and how would you characterize this generation ? i don't think that there was any kind of cemented generation in ukraine. i always say that the problem of ukraine here is closer to mykola ryabchuk than to yaroslav hrytsak, it is a problem of conflict of identities of people who considered themselves ukrainians in the classical the european interpretation of this term, of

course, there are not very large numbers in our country. in the 90s, the number gradually increased, but they were never such an obvious majority. the presidential elections of 2019 showed that they make up about half of the voters there, which is also a lot, but it is so dubious, it is quite dubious sociology, there was a part of people who considered ukraine a part of the russian world, you can also look at sociology that even after the 14th year, many ukrainians agreed with by volodymyr putin what are the russians ukrainians are one people in the end there were people who did not decide on their identity what was happening electorally political all the uprisings were the uprising of this ukrainian identity for the preservation

of independence, the sovereignty of the state but a democratic state this less never established any dictatorship and thank god after this voting took place, this voting was a vote, as a rule, not of a political, but of an economic nature, and was a revenge for those who, as a result, did not see ukraine as a european democratic state and a state that is forced to confront russia in its sovereignty. the generation of the 80s and 90s could do a lot more with this ukrainian identity if it could consolidate the political electoral achievements of the uprisings . but it did not have the electoral resources for this, moreover, we do we know whether this electoral resource will appear after the end of hostilities, because we do not know what territory we will dispose of, as a result of which

the territory will be controlled by a legitimate the ukrainian government and we do not know how many people will live in this territory and how many people will represent the ukrainian eyes, the nation said creative views in the political sense of the word and we may experience after the end of the hostilities an electoral shock greater than in 2010, it can also be but we do not know this because you are from ukraine, it has just begun and we do not know how many people will return, the liberation of ukraine has just begun and we do not know what territory will be liberated, it is not necessary for the ukrainians who fought for freedom in a situation when they were perceived as marginal by the majority of their own compatriots to demand what can be demanded from poles or romanians or bulgaria who had their own political struggle in their country 100% majority from the point of view of identity it is impossible to compare now begins a complex process of building a classic

ukrainian european identity moreover , i believe that if this process does not succeed, ukraine will disappear from the political map of the world, even if i win this war , it will still become part of russia, as they say the russians, such a thing is not a military aggression, so then i will embrace the new democratic russia, this is the great danger number one. that is why we need a european democratic ukraine with ukrainian language, culture, church history, this is the only possibility to preserve statehood here after the end of hostilities, and i believe what exactly is it for today, the armed forces of ukraine are fighting when they are doing everything possible to free as much as possible of the ukrainian territory of the internationally recognized ukrainian territory from the russian

aggressors and in this situation. of course, it is quite important that we all must be aware of the depth of these tasks and the scale of these tasks, and that the main tests will be after the war. what a beautiful country we can build, if we win, we will win not only for us, not only the aggressor, but also ourselves, the main thing is the victory of ourselves, the willingness to be a part of the beautiful world in which we will play a worthy, worthy role, i sincerely wish you this, friends, i am sure that it will happen, even though

it will be hard and serious work, but in these holiday weeks, you must always believe that it is what you dream about, everything everything everything happens and i do not promise you this, i promise you this i guarantee and now i want to pass on the word to anya eva melnyk to my colleagues, who will introduce you to the latest news. thank you very much. see you soon . occupied pokupyansk, more than 20 settlements were fired upon by the russians in bakhmutsky