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the counter system is of the same nature. and when medvedev came to luhansk, he presided over a meeting where all the security forces were there and they told him how they are going to occupy all of this, build it up, it was a large-scale meeting, well, medvedev takes enough time before the meeting to spend in meetings that position him as the second person in the state, because if putin wanted it to be different, he would have sent a mishmash to china, among all the russian prime minister, well, it is logical that a mishmash could also be accepted by all loud and confused, unlike a bear. i did not say that he meets him as an equal. it was the acceptance of the prime minister of russia by the head of the people 's republic of china. it is a completely different situation. so i think that this is also such a signal if medvedev remains the heir i am not saying that the only heir, but the most obvious thing is that medvedev is a worse person than putin, you see that he is completely crazy. by the way,
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there was a funny incident, but i read that the journalist of the investigative project for insider serhii yezhov published the reaction of the russian a-a a high-ranking official on his offer on twitter , eh, regarding medvedev's son ilya, eh, because they are increasing the conscription age, then medvedev's son ilya also falls under the prize and he wrote to medvedev, so your son ilya can then go to fight, medvedev simply blocked him after that without answering anything, they talk like this with such a respected check, so then we finish with medvedev, let’s talk more about iran, because iran through its minister of foreign affairs, if i’m not mistaken, threatens zelensky because of his speech in the congress where zelenskyi he specifically said that tehran supplies weapons, in particular, a drone to the russian federation, by vitaly. why do they object, because now it is
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very easy to check whether it is whose drones it is, which is easy, but for some reason they want this too. by the way, you need to analyze. and why do they want them all from the same on the other hand, they want to supply russia with weapons, iran, north korea, on the other hand, they do not want to be accused of this, they do nothing of the kind, but russia defends its interests in the fight against it with a realistic measure, zelensky said this, the ministry of foreign affairs of iran puppet of the west, let him find out what happens to those who are oriented towards the united states , so what's so bad if you supply weapons to get rid of this puppet as soon as possible, what 's the problem ? once they start to say that they are supplying weapons, they start making official statements, and this is even though zelensky's speech, the north korean foreign ministry reacts to
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every publication no, not at all how could you think and what is that, what is the matter russia is your ally, and you are under all the sanctions that could be imposed against you. what are you afraid of? i think they can get out of this situation in iran. at least from the point of view of the fact that they are an anti-imperialist state, the islamic republic was created by a group of stones as a state that is fighting world imperialism with washington and moscow because these are imperialist states that are trying to spread their hegemony over the entire surrounding world. and then the question arises. and why are you then if one of these states is this other satan from moscow wants to spread its hegemons to a neighboring country. why are you helping it? where is our revolutionary
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nature? read on iranian authorized internet sites. that is, there is a discussion there, and then this discussion leads to the fact that supporters of the supply of weapons do not want to admit that they supply them. that is, it is both in the external and the internal situation regarding north korea, it is generally difficult for me to understand their motives, because they definitely do not have a discussion, you know that if you start a discussion, you will be shot with a cannon, this is such a special discussion, that is pluralism with a transcription from a cannon right under your nose, but it means something also restrains in some way from the readiness to become such an ally of russia, that is, the only person who recognizes himself as an ally of russia is lukashenko, the list begins and ends with him, and you know , in the case of iran, they have a moment
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they said they admitted that they supplied, but they said to the moron on february 24, yes. who would have thought that our weapons would be used in this way, some kind of horror. ugh, they contradict themselves a little, they can use it now, and now these drones that were supplied until february 23 were banned, supplied, but prohibited from being used. congratulations but britain and the united states of america say that if you continue such a policy, well, we will react early to the example. and how else can they react? you already said that the european union and the united states introduced sanctions a long time ago rubbed against and early there are no sanctions of the european union , now they are serious because when the united states left the nuclear agreement the european union did not leave and the sanctions were not introduced in this way, that is, the american sanctions are in effect, but all other sanctions were not only in this year, they have already stopped, so in principle there are where
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secondly, there is another military-technical issue, but i don't know why they noticed that the prime minister-elect of israel talked with vladimir putin near the ministries and there was an agenda - this the conversation is quite simple. by the way, it was laid out by the office of the sweeper. if you read the message from putin's office, he should not have talked to any other person, not to the child, but not to anyone. he thinks that he talked to putin about ukraine, that it is necessary to start a war about iran, that he is worried about the military-technical russian cooperation with iran and about the base and the wound that israel is trying to create in the gray area near the northern borders and some definitely told putin sharply enough for him that he will resolutely oppose this, what does this mean when the united the states say that they will take some real action. president baida, in
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principle, can simply meet with the prime minister of russia and say, you know, if 10 of your planes fly somewhere, no one noticed it. let them fly where they want, it's your business. let them fly. and why do you think that the russians can shoot you down, we will give you all the data of the satellites so that no one touches you and the iranians can suddenly wake up in the morning and they will not have some objects in iran because israel is more interested in this than the united states, the only thing wants the jewish state to give it the opportunity to do this so that there are no consequences from the point of view of international law, but if iran will continue such cooperation with russia, then of course israel will be interested in such actions, the united states itself will not need even the united states itself. so here we have our the nuances of how it can be formed, so that with regard to the supply of gas transit gas to
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europe through our gts, the ministry of energy warns that the russian federation can at any time suspend, but in principle, vitaly i i read an interview with the minister of energy hermana glushchenko. he said that they were ready for this . they expected it throughout the war, and that is interesting. i don't know if this information was available before. to be honest, i didn't follow it before. what exactly, on the night of february 24, they increased transit almost to as much as possible, because by demonstrating to europe in this way that we are your gas and you are not touching it, please, er, for us, we are ensuring the stability of supply through this pipe, only it is important that it is not wrong for the government, do you understand what the matter is? always tried to explain what our spokespeople were starting from when they discussed the issue of the northern stream, the topic was always
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the same. to our budget and you don't need this money anyway, you are so rich and the germans said listen to this business, we also want to earn and you will earn less and we guarantee you that you will make a certain amount federal tile merkel says that the transit should go through you , that it should be a mandatory condition so that you will earn and we will earn, everyone will be satisfied. i always said that if you transfer the issue of gas transit to the business plane, you will lose because it must be considered exclusively from from the point of view of security, not our earnings, but russia's fulfillment of its transit obligations to europe, because on the very day when putin is convinced that he can technologically do without the ukrainian
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gas transportation system in order to fulfill these obligations, he will start a war i was wrong for literally a few weeks. so, when the north was announced, nord stream 2 could already be working sometime in january of last year. well , a month passed and the war began, that is, everything that we told the germans happened, everyone generally thought that it was just such a rhetorical technique, you know, and they say rhetoric is like that, well , you are not serious, mr. vitaly, you are just intimidating, i was told this even by our ukrainian colleagues at a different conference, which no, i will not intimidate them, it will just be a war, or should i intimidate them, there will be no war in our country there will be a war they just have to know about it or they will lose a lot more from this war than they do there transit what by the way is happening now as far as that works so as far as that as far as we are concerned we thought all along that we could keep this transit route and money, it had to be
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done differently in order to preserve the ukrainian gas transport system and money for transit, there are necessary conditions, the first is to give this gas industry, as belarus did, the second is to join the eurasian economic union the third is to fulfill all putin's whims. as lukashenka does it, then you will receive this money, it is a payment for loyalty. if you want to be an independent, independent state. if you want to choose your own path, then you have to pay for everything. you will not have this money for transit, so you are not you can be an independent state at the same time corrupt and populist at the same time so that people in your country pay for gas as much as they pay in north korea and are very worried when they raise prices, it does not happen either there or here or to europe or to russia cannot stay on these two chairs, it was necessary to clearly understand that we
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will not receive this money for transit. because our own policy, because we are going to europe, will necessarily lead to a confrontation between russia and europe and to the fact that europe itself will refuse as a result , there will be nothing for russia to transport through our pipeline from russian gas. this is just such a reality that no one here wanted to put up with, because the very concept of this state since 1994 , approved by the majority of its citizens, was that we need cheap russian gas gas and that we would fill our transit, our budget with money for the transit of this russian gas and we will live like this, and now we are paying for all this choice of ukrainian citizens, it did not just happen like that, everything that happened is a conscious choice of the majority of our citizens who could not understand that you cannot, on the one hand, go to the west and want to be paid for it from the east. if you want to be paid
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from the east, you must go to the east, as lukashenko did. if you want to go to the west, you will not be paid, because on in the east other interests and it was called a lot of vectors , yes, i ask for cheap cheese of the mouse hunters, but p vitaly, why did everyone understand that about the gas needle, but about the transit directly, it is not a very simple mathematical formula, it is gas, we are paid for it, we are paid for it, because gas is transported to europe, we say we we want it to be only through us, but at the same time we ourselves want to be part of the european union and nato says no, you will not be part of the european union and nato we will attack you and europe let it not interfere europe says we do not can we interfere because you are violating the sovereignty of an independent state, russia says, well then, i'm sorry, we won't supply you with gas. well, what about our status for you?
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vitaly, you're a scary person in the sense that all your forecasts are wrong, it's just reasonable , that's logic, yes do you understand this logic that every teenager should know when he meets his classmate or student there - it's a jacket and suddenly he decides that he needs some kind of personal relationship with her, i'll say well, even a teenager knows that in 9 months you can be born a child is news, well, there are teenagers who think that a stork brings children, but there are not many of them left, i suspect so. and this behavior of the ukrainian people proved to me that it reminds me of the behavior of a teenager who thinks that there will be a stork instead of a stork, who also may not bring a child, something like that - less pleasant instead of a stork is a rocket, you understand how in malkovich's poem about cranes that fly with nuclear bombs there was a poem like this oh well, that's all that this is a price for
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infantilism yes, you can't, that would be very good, we are going to the european union, we are going to nato and the russians pay us for all this, they give us cheap gas, they give us the transit fee that we like, says this raura. by the way, from the point of view of formal logic, if russia were a normal state, all this would be beneficial if ukraine became a member of the european union this opens up space for russian companies that register in ukraine, additional profit is needed, it is possible for the ukrainian transport system to be subject to all the actions of european legislation , thus reducing the price for transit, of course, for russia yes, of course, all this was beneficial in russia, and only if russia was not a state that wanted us to exist and did not want to be a tact. well, let's talk about whether
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hungary actually supports a terrorist state, not specifically hungary, but orbán, because as i see it, many of the opposition politicians in hungary, and members of orbán's party, say that they personally against of his such actions, in particular, now he threatens to dissolve the european parliament and he is trying to blackmail european leaders in every possible way by saying that he will oppose ukraine for russia, but really he wants to make money for himself imagine that today is saturday so imagine that you live in they tell you on friday night, just imagine. we did it on the spot, you know, on friday night you will receive 20 billion dollars, and on the fifth evening, who says, you know, you will not receive 20 million dollars? well, we don't like you, you are a good manager with your country, you violate the rules of the european union. what did you say to this european union? you
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would like to dissolve not only the european parliament, but you probably had negative emotions. orban acts absolutely logically when he says that the european parliament should be dissolved , why the hell no one will dissolve the parliament once, but they accuse him of this corruption . compliance with the norms of european legislation, all of a sudden, it turns out that the vice-speaker of the european parliament from greece has such a magical memory, the former tv host part of a corruption network that acted in the interests of qatar, there is a whole mafia headed by an italian former deputy, and one of the greek journalists wrote that it is strange that greek meps think that it is possible to behave in brussels like in greece, because it happens in greece, but you understand that the body speaks to its voters you see, they tell us that the customs are targeting the most terrible, miserable corrupters, the argument, well, what kind of argument is this? well
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, this one from the speaker is in prison, everyone is arrested, there is a special operation, corruption is common, the problem is not that there is no corruption the question is that there is a fight against corruption so that a person who uses his official position from the speaker of the parliament pierre for corrupt practices may end up in prison together with ordinary people who have never had such a big mandate and hungary somehow does not fight very well with corruption in hungary, there is a problem of lack of rule of law, so i believe that this anti-corruption special operation confirmed that europe is a healthy organism, if they covered it, if we learned about it from a newspaper investigation and the european parliament will order a bull, we don't know anything oh, how is it possible, how can you get to the vice-speaker's office, i'm sorry, she went on vacation and will only be back in two weeks. and you see, everyone didn't warn anyone, they did a brilliant
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special operation in the best such traditions of these italian detectives where they told how high they put the officials, they take them and put handcuffs on them, so in this regard, i think that everything happened normally, but in orban's interpretation, well, orban is trying to fight back, but he's not getting anywhere it will happen because he needs 20 billion dollars. we say a lot that he is on good terms with putin, you understand. well , putin will never give it as much money as you can give . one and a half seems to have given billions and it will not cover these financial exercises. they gave it because he unblocked aid to ukraine or and those 20 billion were not given, which means that some changes will have to be made to the legislation. i think he will do it. urban is a very smart person, but he is
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will do that's how, because of all these receivers, i demanded to dissolve, they didn't dissolve, but we here in hungary are much more honest people than they passed important legislation that will allow us to fight corruption . cannot live without this legislation, if there are such corrupt people in brussels, well, vitaly, but at the same time, he is accused of corruption, the lack of justice in the country, the rule of law of all european values, the main ones because he supports russia de facto and now it is not fashionable to support russia, but they still say that it is impossible to remove him democratically, why does he have such support then, because people like him well, it happens that people are different electorates, different urban for many years , he has been convincing hungarians that he is the key to their stability, a fighter against corruption, a person who is an alternative to
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the post-communist government. and this year, he played a very unfair game when he began to convince hungarians that he is the prime minister of peace. and the opposition wants war you know when you tell people that you also guarantee peace, and if they vote for your opponent, then there will be war for you. if this is an ordinary person who wants to live in a normal, peaceful world, you will vote for the devil only for the novel, just so that there will be no such horror. even more so neighbors of ukraine ukraine he played on this then don't forget urban almost totally controls the hungarians he created such a system by the way, you can tell me more about it because i didn't know what was wrong with them like in the russian federation that they close there are not loyal the media, they just finance their media properly, so they create different funds, and this was from the beginning of viktor orban's second premiership, when he started creating all these pyramids, when he started
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creating all these opportunities for earning for his closest associates, these are all private funds they would be able to do and along with that, how do you understand all these private funds , they privately finance these newspapers, that is, he is the ability of competitors of his time, the first president of croatia in the temple here, she who was also such a person, i would say with a heavy hand then it is a country neighboring hungary, it is a different country now, but it was a war and he didn’t close anything either, especially he just qualified the opposition publications according to the scale of pornographic publications, they sued them, then they once won this court, but while there were courts, they had to pay only erotic and pornographic publications could really pay such income tax. but they didn't print
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naked women and men there, they didn't buy them in such a quantity that they bought then, these publications will be ordinary publications, and that's why only one newspaper actually remained there, i remember how it was always hunted by the feral tribune , which was in opposition to the government in the jungle and which was supported by guarantors from all european countries . while there was a war, the party here was the same, we remained in power, but when those returns ended, they no longer had such opportunities, the opposition press appeared, they lost the first fair elections, it always happens, oh, you just actually spread this uh situation to peacetime and in other ways absolutely correctly creating tools to support their own media and that is why it turns out that the opposition liberal hungarian media do not have such competitiveness, i am not talking about
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television . means that, in principle, some steps are starting where the erosion of the regime, you see what erdoğan is doing in turkey, he is trying to put me in istanbul, although he himself was honey in istanbul they also tried to imprison him. well, it’s the same in india , so it’s interesting. thank you for the excursion about the mass media, how it all works in croatia and hungary, which countries have a big television maragon . of ukrainian medians that putin doesn't really act like that, you know, i'm like a ram just op see how to remember you hell until night hell until night everything goes out at once you know if
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you don't see us but we are putin by and large it must be said he just put he has under control all the existing media in russia . he is correct in closing the liberal ones, but all tv channels have long been under the control of the moscow kremlin. i will tell you that as it was , the tv channel was first brought under complete control sometime during the first two or three years of putin's rule. then after 2004 year, it was the second term, all print media and internet media were influential around this time, which means that print media also became fully controlled, then the time came for internet media to be brought under control in crimea almost by the 14th year internet media and then after that this is a quote in the shadows is beautiful by the way and then in the er period
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er after at the beginning of the great invasion all these sites that were used to demonstrate pseudo freedom of speech were destroyed because they also had norms of behavior, you understand here echo of moscow, a part of the liberal public came there, but it was always balanced by different strong vordulas. it was such a salary, i think - i always said to my colleague. do you understand that you are doing worse than the remains? well, for example , why do we give words to human rights defenders opposition politician, but you pretend that the position of these human rights defenders, progressive politicians, and liberals is also the same as the position of someone over there, uh, i'm sorry, i'm not saying you're a goat for serhii markov or someone else, do you think that this is a discussion, but there can be no discussion, an honest person is a criminal, a thief must sit in prison
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you don't think that we have the same thing happened on medvedchuk's channels well, by the way, i have to tell you that medvedchuk himself seems to have believed in this lie or did he use it we talked with igor edvan about this story from about how putin perceives information, and there is already a whole paragraph about medvedchuk, you know. and which says that medvedchuk had a special phone for communication with putin, that is, he had something that no president of ukraine has, and he convinced putin that if putin leads the army, then all ukrainians will applaud because they all consider themselves russians. and you can imagine that you are asking the number one question, by the way, i would like to ask this question to putin or to ask vytia medvedchuk, and you told me that because you believed in it, not about get older or because the hotel will get money well, that's interesting. well, look, i don't know. maybe we're weirdos, just idiots, well, that is, inside ukraine, you don't see the mood, i really do
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n't know, i see a lot of such people, i'll remember for the rest of my life how we become with dmytro vasyliovych pavlychkom in the 90th or 91st year, the soviet union will soon be gone and we are talking to the head of the department of some coal heavy industry there - this is the cpsu named slobodianyuk, a ukrainian, we can order in ukrainian, he knows well, it is clear well, i tell him about my trip to the donbas, i was in the donbas, modern miners , they already hated everything in the world. pavlychko was very interesting, too, and we started to develop a spirit, he came up and told all his impressions and slobodianyuk but we don’t look says the boy well, you are such a storyteller, the miners all love the party very much and i looked at him in his eyes and realized that he is not a joker, no, no, he is not joking, he is not joking. no , he thought so, and i thought so. a certain environment
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there is an environment, and in this environment, everyone considers themselves russian, and these are all nationalists. well, if they are not from lviv, then they are just pretending, they understand that ani is russian, and as khodakovsky wrote, come on , most people will remember that they are russian. and those who think that they are ukrainian nationalists fit for power, there aren't many of them, well, it was. if someone khodakovsky thought so, why couldn't medvedchuk think so, we sometimes underestimate the level of their debilism, they don't live, they don't drive on er, you know in public transport does not communicate with people, they c- well , oksana marchenko came from where she worked on the inter channel. yes, and medvedchuk can ask. and what does oksana think ? the rest is of course
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in russian, because in what language is it hahaha and she led ukraine, she has talent, it seems like the ukrainian government there, i know the ukrainian language very well, you don’t doubt ukraine, well done medvedchuk well, i doubt it because he loves the ukrainian language obviously he doesn't like it, but he needs to be driven from below in ukrainian now, but then when the owner comes, we'll talk in russian, you know all that money for fish is money well, that's the whole story, so i don't know it seems to me sometimes that we overestimate the level of their formation when a person gets into some situation with not the top of the government and so on, psychological compensation begins, a person pushes out of his head information that may be unpleasant to him, so we are now talking about a bubble of social networks. and this bubble in people who are in power, it began even before the emergence of social networks

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