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kharkiv parental care who simply can't make a choice themselves. do they want to go or not? that's how it was in kherson. i recently returned from there and spoke with the director of the social rehabilitation center, volodymyr sagayduk. he told terrible things about the fact that 50 children were stolen from one children's home. from one month to four years old. this is a child. we know that in russia they have simplified the adoption of the legislative norm and that there is the secret of adoption and criminal responsibility. well, where are these children now? one more thing is simply unknown that mr. volodymyr told me that the russians brought 15 children from the mykolaiv oblast armed with one of the social rehabilitation centers to his social rehabilitation center and what condition these children were in. mr. volodymyr told me personally and let's listen on july 15 from the front line when we the russians already found them, they already knew
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that we were from the front line, the russians in combat vehicles brought 15 children from the mykolaiv region, e.e. the novopetrivsk specialized school, the children lived there for 3 months in the basement together with the school director and cooked food on the fire and when the russians brought them to us on the 15th, they were very scared. they thought they were being taken to russia. in the occupation, there were two institutions left, this is the institution where i work and the orphanage. unfortunately, the children from the orphanage the russians took them, we don't know where they are, and let's hope that they will be returned at that time. in my opinion, there were 50 or 54 children there. i don't know for sure, because the children's ages are from 0 to 4 years old. it's a terrible story of ms.
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daria. what about you? it is known about her about the abduction of a baby of small children, of course we are aware were in charge of the whole situation from the very beginning, do you remember that the coordination headquarters for the protection of children's rights works in ukraine. it is a governmental one. it has been working since the first days of the war, and that is why we constantly kept our finger on the pulse, we knew which of our institutions are located in the temporarily occupied territory and which in danger, we kept in touch with the leaders, but unfortunately it was not possible to simply take them to the territory under control, there were institutions in which children were very seriously ill, they simply could not be transported, and they had a very high risk that they simply will die on the road, but we were constantly in touch with the leaders as long as it was possible and constantly asked for the coordination of humanitarian corridors specifically with regard to these institutions, which of course was not the case in the kherson region, we know that the russians stole only those children who were the most transportable. that is, there
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there were children with disabilities, and they took away only those who were able to take out the smallest and different children, well, that is, depending on who they could transport, and again, we have documents that have already been made public about the way russia presented it, they presented it as e-e rehabilitation, that is, they sent these children to an institution for rehabilitation, but rehabilitation to a psycho-neurological boarding school , but in russia, i will return to the fact that they simplified the legislation specifically on adoption, and it is in the russian federation that the norm applies that adoption is e- it's a secret, no one has the right to tell if the child was taken away, so, well , there is a secret of adoption, that is, now children from kherson could, in principle, adopt her in russia, and we don't know anything about them, we hope that we will be able to to find out because we have data on these children, we know exactly the list of who was there, who these children are,
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we know everything about them, and we hope that of course we will find them, children are not needles, it is not so easy to hide them, although they try very hard and it is quite difficult to find them, but without a trace, they transport them around different territories of the russian federation, they don't keep them in one place, but they move them around quickly to adoptive families, but we have to understand that the secret of establishment is in all countries, it exists, yes, but hmm russia is a signatory of the un convention on the rights of the child, and it is clearly stated that the signatory countries undertake to carry out or recognize an inter-state adoption to obtain consent from the child's country of origin, i.e. to coordinate the entire process. russia does not in any way coordinate any information with the child's country of origin. therefore, this adoption is unambiguous and not only adoption but also
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transfer to custody is absolutely illegal and this is recognized by the whole world and russia will be punished for this and it will be forced to return all our children or will it be difficult yes, it is very difficult, is it really difficult with the secret of adoption if the child was small, to find out where she is and that she really is a child from ukraine, it is also very difficult with teenagers, it is easier, they know clearly, remember everything and so on, so i would like to share some impressions from kherson, which mr. volodymyr told during the conversation, how he hid his children and did not let them out. he says that it is not good to say that because we still have occupied territories and we must understand that we must have influence schemes in order to protect our children. i think we learn like this yes, it is important for us not to highlight that is why we did not highlight the institutions where they are located, we tried to hide them as long as possible so
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that the enemy would not find them, but it is good that the children from mr. a less calm territory of a peaceful one and everything is fine with them. so you touched on the topic of teenagers in russia, in what direction is there a separate program for ukrainian children, in my opinion, it is the most terrible, it is called the teenagers of russia, they a-a in mostly direct these teenagers to the chechen republic, there is a whole program and they show a video showing it off. and they gathered teenagers from the popovna region of kherson, luhansk, donetsk and kherson regions and sent them for patriotic re-education, and they openly talk about the fact that between the lines when they write their releases there and speeches they are actually preparing militants who, after a certain period of this brainwashing, are supposed to take up arms next to the russian military and
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storm ukrainian cities in fact, here is a fragment of this on their video, which is published by the leader of the chechen terrorists, kadyrov, let's see, an extensive program has been prepared for military-patriotic education, spiritual and different education for military personnel, management employees are talking about the deputy republic, we are conducting a lecture on patriotism and the ego of the heroes of the national guard. yes, what is this program of patriotic patriotic education? and why will they be taught, and well, teenagers are teenagers, yes, weapons are interesting boys, yes, they are interested in running and shooting and joining some such new community , and in which, after a while, we see what is happening there behind the same russians
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mobilized there. we will draw analogies as it was done there during the second world war, once children were actually turned into kamikaze suicide terrorists, and what uh who were thrown into some extremely difficult tasks, but in fact the same thing happens with ukrainian children murderers who will kill ukrainians are trying to do. well, according to your information, how large-scale is this program that they launched. and what should we do with it specifically? well, let's start with the fact that we understand that the scale of the brain disease itself among russians is off the charts because, well, it the imagination must be so painful to do this. second, the russians themselves are preparing a very good evidence base for responsibility in an international tribunal for everything they do, and the participation of children in armed conflicts
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which is condemned by the whole world and they must be punished for this. and they show the evacuation, the deportation of our children, what kind of evacuation, at the same time, here they show that they are russifying them , evidence two and such evidence, in fact, even this video provides a lot of that, so i can't say about the mass because we we cannot enter the territory of the russian federation to count our ukrainian children, and i will tell you that yesterday i spoke with a boy who returned from deportation. and he is a very smart child, i am just proud of how our ukrainian teenagers are, he is 16 how cunning our ukrainian teenagers are, that is, he pretended that he was ok, everything was fine, he was placed in a foster family, he went to a lyceum, he allegedly communicated and all
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this time he was preparing a plan for his escape, well , that is, you can imagine even what we see and he implemented it, that is, he helped the ukrainians, the ukrainian side, to find out where he was and, in principle, helped us to realize our ugh, what is his name? and i can’t say. what is his name? just a cool cool boy i'm fascinated because i have no stamina when i go to some international conference. there are conferences or events or food for the un general assembly and there is a representative from russia. well , i just can't help myself. my hands are shaking, my eyes are twitching and i'm ready for my passport without letting go of my hands yes here yes and here is a boy who held himself in his fist and understood that he should not glow he has to huddle into a gray mass in order to save himself yes and that's why i'm here
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i myself do not believe that they will be able to brainwash so quickly and really knock out ukrainian children of their identity, but i'm sorry, this is again a testimony about the signs of genocide, it is russification, yes , that is, it is the destruction of the child's identity, and that is why they are simply testifying. and we collect the evidence is uh and we will definitely bring them to justice right away, the story is also during communication in kherson, a 17-year-old boy, his mother, and they were in the basement, they say on their phones that there were about ukrainian posts, they tell us, they endured, they sat, but still we were waiting for ukraine. well, in principle, our nation cannot be defeated. and there are other concepts such as kidnapping, genocide, deportation, if you take each of them separately, it fits what russia is doing now with ukrainian children. and everything fits because russia does not choose what they do, but they do everything in order to get rid of giving ukraine the absolute
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impossibility of developing and existing as a nation , that is, they are destroying our ukrainian gene pool with all their might, that is, creating conditions in which not fit for life er inventing new mechanisms to kidnap our children because they really say two months and we will return then they don't return and they er kill our children they torture them they rape them they counsel them and they abduct them in the broadest sense. well, they hand them over for adoption under guardianship , which there is already a lot of evidence about, uh, they change citizenship, documents, and actually this boy, as i spoke with, he also received russian documents, and because that’s how they quickly, that’s all they do a lot in the summer putin signed a decree on the simplified procedure for granting russian citizenship to orphans from ukraine and territories
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controlled by the militants of the dpr and lpr. my last name has all changed, yes, if adoption has the right. well, if it was legal, this adoption would then have the right, but we must understand that deportation and servile transfer of children is not, well, in your imagination, it has not just to create an image that it was the children themselves and they were taken, they came and were deported, they themselves were the unfortunate ones who sat there, deporting children and relocating them in absolutely different cases, we now have evidence of already returned children with deportation and relocation and that is, we have concrete evidence there where children lost their parents and they were found with other adults, they were taken out and deported. and there is
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evidence of children who were separated from their parents during the so-called filtering measures, that is, even if we have evidence that the child was deported together with the parents this does not mean that she does not need to search, she is in exactly the same danger, well, a person in deportation cannot be safe. believe me , accordingly, it is indeed confirmed that very often children are separated from their parents for filtering. we have the story of the returned boy sashka from mariupol, 11 years old he still doesn't know where his mother is because we managed to get him back. a few months later , and unfortunately, the mother is still missing. so, after such a filtering delay. and there are stories of children who you simply removed from the family, that is, the child was with older adults brothers and sisters just came home and said get together, we're taking you, now you're going to another family, that is, they do everything . there are no
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criteria. these are completely different cases. they just need to take the children. which institution in russia deals with this issue ? the ministry of defense is responsible for the war in them. there is a pkv. and here is the story you tell, we understand what it is . very systematic. she works according to a specific algorithm, and someone in russia should be responsible for this. maria lvova and belova, er, who now turns out to be very fond of me, which does not make me happy at all, but er, that is , her activities are publicly highlighted because she came to visit the children and this boy with whom i spoke yesterday he was also at a meeting with maria lvova and belova. that is, when they were also brought, she came to a friendly meeting, spoke with the smaller children, he was around her, she personally approached him and said why you you don't come to us, we're talking here, he said, "why am i here for a short time? they
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promised me that in a month they would let me go home. and we have a well, yes , good, good, okay, but she constantly kidnaps children, but she constantly refers to the security forces that is, the fsb is also involved in this in ukraine. vesta children from ukraine, and they have a completely different system. she is theirs they have become outdated i don't care i don't know how you answer this question i don't care what kind of system they have i don't study it i don't waste my time studying the social protection system of the russian federation well that's why in any case i'm not interested in that ukraine has a specific task yes we still have problems yes we still have institutions for institutional care yes we do not all children live in families yet and we recognize it this is a huge problem but we
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are doing the last year that i am at position and i have a task from the president to do everything so that every child in ukraine grows up in a family. is it a biological family if possible? not in an institutional care facility, any facility , even the best super there, i don’t know, repairs , conditions, educators , the family will never notice the child, that’s why we are working to change the system in ukraine, it is already changing now, those children who are identified under during the full-scale invasion of the russian federation on the territory of ukraine, there were almost 5,000 children who were found without parental care during the full-scale invasion, and already now i can say that more than 3,000 3.5 thousand of these children out of five were they were noticed, they were given to the families of their relatives, acquaintances, that is, they went into
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care, they are not in institutions, they remained in the circle of their families, and then a certain number of children went to alternative family forms of education. well, unfortunately, thank god a smaller percentage, we are working on it, but children still go to institutions of institutional care. how do international organizations help the return of children? the un has a special department, well, a structural structural unit that deals with similar issues , you mean the committee on child protection issues, but i can't say who exactly is specifically dealing with these issues, so far the entire world community was convinced that the international committee of the red cross is the organization with the broadest mandate , and it is they who should search for our children
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, monitor the conditions of their stay, and then we would know where they are. we would return them ago, that is, the red cross was not supposed to return ukrainian children, but to find and monitor the conditions of their stay, so the whole world was hoping that the international committee of the red cross would always do this, but unfortunately, we all see perfectly well that now the ukrainians have lived up to their expectations in this area of work, let's see. maybe something will change, but for now we have the way we have it. we are currently working with the structures of the european union and the structures of the united nations to develop some possible algorithm of actions. to encourage what kind of documents should be accepted, the witnesses did not see such a mass abduction, therefore to say that the world community was ready for this and we have them there, despite excellent documents and international law, the geneva convention, yes, the un convention
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protection of the truth of children, protection of the rights of people with disabilities, there are wonderful documents that are understandable to any adequate person, they understood if we say that we have an inadequate neighbor who is not going to live in society according to the generally accepted social contract rules. what can we talk about? that is, we we have to find new algorithms now, don't exchange these documents, but create a new algorithm to force the player to play by the rules, otherwise nothing works , just as the world is reviewing collective security measures, that's what they say everything and all the institutions they turn out, there were no such precedents in the world, something even in the second world war to test these mechanisms and now we are testing and they are not working, the shops are working, the red cross is not working, it is not working, nothing is working, what is actually happening, the documents are there and they are well- practiced we cannot say that nothing works there, but when you hypothetically
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build some algorithms that should work under normal conditions when everyone follows the rules, then when someone does not follow the rules, these schemes no longer work and accordingly, we are now not saying that everything is not working there, we are now talking about the fact that uh, yes, we are reviewing uh, some mechanisms all over the world, we understand how to ensure our safety, you see it as a tautology of the entire population, because no, it is ukrainian children tomorrow it can be a child of any other country and therefore now what we are doing for ukrainian children is actually what we are doing for the whole world. so now history is being written, a new history is being written at such a terrible, terrible cost to ukrainians , such a terrible, painful experience that does not have in fact, no countries except ukraine now, but there are so-and-so, so-and-so, and so-and-so, we have had such and such, which we still manage to pull out of russia,
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they, uh, appear, return home thanks to the help of international institutions, or is it mostly some kind of volunteer work that i really want to know about to talk, but i think that you will not tell the details for sure, you have already understood so i, you all understood today on the portal children of war you can see the number, the luckiest number that pleases me very much, my heart is straight every morning superheroes are 125 children whom we have already managed to return from deportation or forced displacement, so it seems that it is very little, but in fact, for each story, it is a separate story, there is an operation to save a child, because there is no single algorithm. and how to return these children. we really hoped that you some kind of unified mechanism is being built, but unfortunately it doesn't work like that, because children are in very different conditions , and children are of different ages, they are in different cities and there are different opportunities, so unfortunately, there is no
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unified mechanism, but we use by support for this, i want to say that a very large state team is working on this directly, and mrs. varyschuk and mr. lubinets, of course, as the ombudsman for human rights, these are the very people who, er, are most er, engaged in the issues of building the return algorithm for each special operations for each child and each rescue operation, and accordingly i can say that this team also includes representatives of the public community, and everyone who can really help with something. so, thank you for your understanding, because of course i can't you and i will not comment on any algorithms that could work or even fantasize now, because this means that this algorithm will no longer work. and we still need to return hundreds of thousands of ukrainian children. and
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you know how all this can affect the next generation of ukrainian children . when they ask how many children were injured as a result of the full-scale invasion, i say that it is not 440 children who were abandoned there, not more than 800 children who were injured there, more than 900, not those children who were just injured there , experienced sexual violence or deportation this is every ukrainian child in one way or another, in one way or another, to one degree or another, these are more than 7.5 million ukrainian children who lived in ukraine before the start of the full-scale war because they moved from their own homes, they moved around ukraine, they went abroad looking for temporary shelter and -a by the way, it is important to understand that these children are the biggest , they are the seekers of temporary protection - these are completely different things, they will return.
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during the occupation, every child was traumatized, and it is very strong. unfortunately, it will be reflected in our generation. now, a large state program is being prepared. to support the mental health of ukrainians, because we will need to recover, we will need to rebuild our country , necessarily after victory, children of war are a new category that unfortunately appeared in 2022 year, and in 2023 i would like to see a new category, children of victory, today are christmas and new year holidays. i wish for the end of the war, i want everyone to make a wish that every child who is outside of ukraine today
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was violently taken away by the russians. she returned home and the numbers changed to 125 saved and hundreds of thousands remain there, on the contrary, hundreds of thousands ukrainian children returned home next year. it seems to me that every child deserves such and such a dream for such and such a dream. you can give us a russian passport, but in the hearts of ukrainians, they will always be ukrainians . daria gerasymchuk , adviser authorized to the president of ukraine on children's rights, natalia ostrovskaya valentinovskaya night watch, friends, we dream, we believe in victory and the return of ukrainian children, we will see each other, the era of europe, the times of the customs office, and for now, keep yourself in a handful through the darkness, it is more visible in the time of the destruction of people
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we hold on the brightest, you will buy from the devil, it is not easy and it is not hard to get tired of holding on to the island, a fatal mistake, even though it is raining today in the stream, in the resource we follow the device keep minsk, the generators are running for him in a thousand dreams, we hold on to the truth, we hold on to the stream , it is not at all like in the movie, but it smells like a dirty, cold and terrible war come up with blood war
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leaves its mark on everyone who has been there remember this when you see a person in military uniform this is what war looks like she has such eyes remember the price our heroes pay every day we respect them we thank them we help them and we will definitely win thanks to them, one wish for the holidays is victory during a long power outage choose the network of an available operator manually try to use the 2g network in case of no call send an sms or find out in advance where there are landline phones with a fixed connection in no case download voluminous files via the mobile internet and reduce conversations to a
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minimum or overload the network and make it inaccessible to others let's defeat the darkness together christmas with the whole world how do they do ukrainians have a choice, have the diabolical shellings from the russians decreased and should we wait immediately after the holidays for the offensive from belarus, how is the fortress city of bakhmut holding up and why should we not call the russians orcs, we will also talk about this today about the final issue of tsn, this is a marathon, the only news and channel 1+1 i congratulate you unbreakable ukrainians minus 100 wagnerites we succeeded even at 400 m they seem to be ahead as ukrainian infantrymen in the battles under the bakhmut destroy the myth of the invincible kremlin army revelations of two russian prisoners who remained alive
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