tv [untitled] December 27, 2022 9:30am-10:01am EET
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such a russian taste at the end of the 80s and the beginning of the 90s, there were leaflets from all kinds of authorities. they were shot, someone left and so on. well, that is, in fact, what happened to russia, as far as i'm concerned, this is a country that has generally woken up and used democracy and in order to wake up, well, this deep people woke up and he took his power to the top, this putin , for example, that is, he corresponds to them in some sense in such a deep sense of the king of this there some ruler over them mr. well, that is, what is the problem of democracy democracy if they have there are simply no conscious citizens, there are, for example, slaves or just people who just climbed out of the tree there. excuse my slight racism, but in the end it turns out that it does not work for the good because well, simply, if there are no conscious citizens, then accordingly, democracy does not work, but it is something bad well, that is, hitler was
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elected by order of the democracy of universal suffrage , putin was, in principle, elected in a more or less democratic country, and so on. well, that is, it shows that democracy requires preconditions, but as cherchyl said, democracy is a terrible system, we do not know it worse, better, more precisely, we know better, well , that is, at least at this moment, somehow december of this year is difficult for ukrainians, and there will be another date, and it is possible that putin actually started this war not before he wanted to go down in history as the one who gathered again the lands that were under the soviet union, well, at least it is important for him that the ukrainian socialist republic returns to the family er 100 years of the reproduction of the soviet union, it is still 2022, unfortunately, vasyl pavlov, a military historian, is in touch with us , here we will talk a little about it and not only p vasyl good morning to you good
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morning mr. vasyl do you think we should expect something on december 30, considering how putin is terribly fond of all kinds of symbols to repeat some numbers ? well, here is 100 years of the soviet union and which he misses so much. i think that we have nothing to wait for, because even if we talk about the creation of the ussr, on december 30, er , only the initial act of this rather long-term process took place, the legalization of the ussr lasted until 1925, so er options for the transfer of the date is more than enough that can happen in december, let's say in a
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political or historical-political plan, it is possible that there will be some of his speeches in which he will try to plan before the lord the goals of a military political operation or to mark some points er, also based on the historical genre, although er, his refusal from er, most of the public performances at the end of this year indicates that nothing is possible and there will not be, because er, such an enchanting result, what would he set up in the form of a return in the bosom of ukraine, let's say, the only part of the russian empire or the composition of the fraternal family of the soviet union, it did not happen. this is your colleague, you can say, the professor of military studies at the king's college london, lawrence friedman, wrote a column in which
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he is trying to look into the next year. and see if, for example, some kind of peace negotiations are possible, some kind of diplomatic development, and he does not see it actually because of the fact that it is both for putin and his elite and the people who surround him, and for the west , we do not think that we will lose in this war too high in your opinion well, putin just recently said that 99.9% of russians absolutely support him. and does this mean that this war can theoretically continue there until the last russian, what does history teach us, how can this war in principle end in such a case because if you let and i, well, i, for example, believe that putin really believes that the loss of ukraine - this is the loss of some, well
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, that is, the loss of the imperial myth and the loss of some european claims of russia, well, that is, for russia, it is us, probably, that is, russia which who knows putin, who the russians know, this is literally a matter of life and death, and if we assume that it is really so and that it is shared there, let it not be 99 70%, who now officially seem to support the war in ukraine, does this mean that the war will continue in our country for a long time for a long time, and it will go to the last such convinced imperialist in russia, again if we, uh, make a historical retrospective, at least for the last one, let's give 150-200 years. russia has several times announced that it will lead the war to the victorious end, especially it was clearly defined 105 years ago in 1917, but the same history suggests that russia is ready to enter the war to a victorious
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end only when the course of hostilities is in its favor and only at that moment there is 70% 90% support, the russians also supported the actions of their own government during the russo-japanese war, during the first world war, only until the moment when a series of military defeats, front collapses, retreats , accordingly, conflict situations that arose in society itself did not begin for example yesterday, a video was circulated about how one of the officers of the russian military forces beats the mobilized from the luhansk region with a stick. in fact, we see what happened in the russian army at the end of the 16th and 17th years, when the cossacks and cossack units were used for let's say so, the
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introduction of discipline within the russian army when it started, which began to fall apart in the same way. when the riots started in february 2017, in february 1917, they were first started by the military and the units of that time were used against them, let's say so of the russian guard, these were cossack units, and again, this coincides with the information of the last few days that the guard units are being withdrawn from the front and sent inside russia to control mobilization to control mass riots, the combination of these factors tells us that in putin's mind it is possible there are these 70-90% who are ready to fight there to the last russian, but in reality they are not there , and the very real actions of the russian authorities aimed at strengthening control within russia itself indicate that gradually this and
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the cauldron is starting to boil, vasyl, we now have such a festive period, despite the fact that we have a full-scale invasion, and together with this period, we see how ukraine is trying to define itself, and why, in the time of a full-scale war, it is quite radical. in some issues, for example, a lot of ukrainians celebrate christmas without waiting for some decision of the churches. they decided that they celebrate christmas on december 25. apart from that intersection, battles were just going on. i don't know how you have people fighting on my facebook. someone for santa claus, and someone for st. nicholas, someone said that the old tradition should be returned, and someone said how bad santa claus is for you. the new year is approaching, which for
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many ukrainians, again due to historical circumstances, remains a more important family holiday, let's say christmas that the times of the occupation of the soviet union did not pass without a trace, why do people, despite the fact that there is now a war with the russian world, despite the fact that russia kills that was imposed during the times of the soviet union, why are they fighting so much for it, even though they understand that it can also be a bit hostile and act against ukraine itself at the beginning of this year, ruta volker in her interview dedicated to ukraine noted that the war that began in ukraine in 2014 is an ongoing experience - it is also a war for identity and precisely all
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these moments that you called it exactly and the search for the ukrainian already so national identity. she can tell that in various regions it has already recovered just what uh, without which victory in this war is impossible, that is, the ukrainian nation that entered this war and the ukrainian nation that will come out of this war, they will be completely different, and what you are talking about, on the one hand, it may turn out not to be important uh, or christmas is it new year or easter? well, take any holiday, but in fact it's just those little pebbles that make up a huge wall of identity . now there is such a fashionable word, national stability, this construct, and these elements go there, that's why. that i for example
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traditions of the holidays for me santa claus was the only character there, let's say so, the children's character of some kind of fabulous winter fairy tale, but gradually even i myself transformed through my own children. we moved to the point that in principle saint nicholas is much simpler. it wasn't quite politically correct there, but let's tell the child that's how it went. and even though i noticed that there are gifts for st. nicholas , christmas, new year, and there's also a second christmas. the letters that were now children's were published before st. nicholas, they are, well, personally,
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i have a tear , and i grew up. in order for this to reach us, we have to go through it. are all the sufferings our children must experience, but here we can already say well, in the rather mythological words of yevhen konovalts, that war, or rather, fire, turns iron into iron and a people into a nation , so now we are leaving from the understanding that the ukrainian people, with all their traditions, there are christmas carols by nicholas, should become that political nation whose shchedryk sounds like
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karmahehol and which is well, you can say , already formative for the entire world. to ukraine , a politico-political nation of the 21st century, which will be how there are many political scientists who say that there are trends in many directions, as, for example, our armed forces have already done it, and if in this war we are still comparing the actions of our armed forces or that of our adversary to us in the second world war, in the next one, any operations that will be carried out will be compared with the battles for kyiv, with the defense of kharkov, with the kherson operation, with the offensive under the kharkov ban, and this will be another manifestation of professional identity, and all these small stones will , i hope, add up to a big one. and a powerful
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underground on which the new post-war ukraine will be formed. finally, i would like to ask what you think about the capabilities of russia to make another serious attempt, for example to attack kyiv or make a breakthrough in the east having prepared there 200-300 thousand reserves, for these winter months, for example, in the spring. will they be able to do this, and will the war stop there if they are defeated , these forces, well, you understand the forecasts, such a thing is thankless, i will try, let’s say as the first president, we drop by drop, and therefore if russia abandons the offensive because objectively they have no opportunity for this, yes , they have the opportunity to gain manpower, but then
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we enter the purely military components, the need to train junior commanders coordination of units is necessary, the need to fill weapons and military equipment with military equipment, the need to provide all this is necessary, the developer, next , it is all time and this is all a resource and not only a material resource, there is also an intellectual and non-resource moral resource. if they attack, i will not be surprised at this, because in principles they are showing and with their current actions they are destroying all that mythology that was there before that, pro-russian military art, pro-russian military school, staff culture the strategy of deep operations and so on, we see that they are fighting in mass, they are fighting in an intimidated mass, in which there is a rather powerful professional element, an element that is still ideologically ready, but the main mass is
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not ready for war, does not perceive war, and technologically , at the moment, they have tens of thousands of tanks they have thousands of armored vehicles for artillery in a considerable amount, but this does not mean that it can be used in a timely manner and in the necessary quantity, we can say so on each parameter, we can talk for hours. thank you very much, mr. vasyl vasyl pavlo, the military historian, joined us and we will continue our marathon. we will continue. the only thing is that such a reflection is small for what mr. vasyl said about the fact that perhaps the next military operations or wars will be compared to this one. in the history of ukraine after this war ends and i really hope for a dream, i keep my fists tight until the night and do everything i can
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so that this war ends with our victory so that our children do not have to fight anymore and our descendants so that they live already in that country that is developing, which has overcome the russian peace, i think that it will not continue because there is still a great russia, it will somehow exist, then it will cease, it will all be with huge cataclysms. that is, unfortunately or fortunately, i do not know for sure unfortunately, we had to live in an interesting and epoch. this could be even the last one for humanity, theoretically yes , that is . a chinese about to get sick with covid they didn't show how to fight covid and now all their hospitals are full, they didn't prepare people there they take like flies
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they will probably have the highest death rate in the world well, for the fact that everyone admired in the next hour so everyone admired about the fact that the chinese are so docile during the pandemic, they sit at home , they don’t go anywhere and they don’t get vaccinated much well, but now they are all getting out of the way, vadym denysenko, adviser to the minister of internal affairs of ukraine, we are in touch with mr. vadym dobroy i congratulate you, mr. volodymy , an important day for russians is approaching, which is called the new year. it is obvious that they can prepare something for us, or somehow, we are also preparing for possible gifts for the christmas tree from a russian woman. they can be today and tomorrow and the day after tomorrow from the first of the first that's why, well, always just always be ready for this, i mean about civil forces, that is, you always need to remember the air danger here, you need to document the fact that you need to have a charge by the air of the second
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the battery is charged, gadgets and have a supply of water, that is, in principle, these are the keys to things that you must always remember, you must not forget about it. i have not canceled it yet , today i think that they are unlikely to be canceled in principle, i would like to appeal to absolutely everyone so that people understand the fact that the curfew is not a fiction. it is important for the security of you directly and your surroundings and your city in particular because in this case, will the security measures be
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strengthened ? all those strange people who plan or want to blow up firecrackers or start a farm, that is, in principle, it is forbidden to do this, you cannot do it and it will be punished by law, because well in in principle, everything still happens from time to time, i.e. yesterday i read information that someone set off fireworks in chernihiv, that is, in this case, there is a war going on, in which case you cannot launch any fireworks, throw jupitards , and it is prohibited in general , that is, you just have to call the police if , for example, i don’t know the subsidy, your logo is there, how many fireworks or neighbors say there are some firecrackers, they give the police everything is correct. okay, oh, mr. volodymyr, i’ll ask you
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a little more. is planning to remove putin physically and that is about the fact that this is unacceptable and so on. what do you think about it? is it actually realistic? is this some kind of statement also for the domestic market ? recently they started a big company about replacing putin now it means death , that is, they understand that the most passionate part of the current russian society is the task of the ultra patriots, they can start talking about the fact that putin, er, well, not that putin, he missed, he missed, and, in fact, he needs to be cleaned up, and they understand that in society, despite the fact that, er, the people are ready to vote for him, they prepared to support him, but the story is beginning to look
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that putin, in principle it's already a lame duck, so in this case they are not preemptively playing, they are not preemptively starting to launch stories about the fact that without points for education, events are all about putin without putin to death, in fact, all points of view must be considered but in principle, is it new again, new, some kind of death is so strange, one of the richest civil servants of the russian federation, deputies of the russian federation , pavel antonov, fell from a hotel window just the other day in india, where he was vacationing there, and i wonder what was explained there that he fell out of the window against the background of depression due to the fact that a couple of days before that, his friend died in the same hotel, well, in a word, such a macabre story as usual . those who are russian
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kolakh, does this mean that putin is constantly conducting some kind of purge among the hopeless well, you know, it is difficult to say anything here, that is, in principle, could a person be depressed, theoretically, he could, that is, his friend died of alcoholism, just so you understand, besides, he died from an overdose of alcohol, er, or er, this antov could have depression, again, on the background of alcoholism, eh, i can’t rule out anything, in principle, the only clue that can be against him is to say that all this is political, some kind of labeling, eh this is actually his post several monthly tributes when he uh declared that after another flight in one of the ukrainian songs he forgot in which he simply uh he wrote that this is an atrocity and in principle you can take it then he deleted this post and declared that he will fully support the war
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and so on uh but this is the only one for this for waiting so for now i can't say it's a conspiracy coincidence really some kind of game from someone in putin's team i'm sure putin even theoretically knew about the existence of this people so here it's hardly personally putin's instruction, lawrence friedman, is to try, er, the professor of lenitsky college is trying, er, he is trying the royal one, he also tried to assess what this war will be like next year, his forecast is rather disappointing, he says that in russia, at least putin and his entourage , for them, this is an existential war but in your opinion, to what extent are you in favor of a remote war for the russians, or do they really believe that the ukrainians are part of the russian people, and without kyiv the holy and so on, it is impossible for russia , that is, whether it is possible to sell it to the russians and which in general is actually now as an ideology, i will accept it. he also says that putin’s problem
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is that he tries to orientate himself on, say, the previous tsars, but they had some idea of their own, and or or, for example, on the soviet union, but there was also putin has a powerful communist ideology, there is neither one nor the other, well , first of all, the russians believe that ukrainians are one of the biggest problems for us, because the russians believe that there is no such people as ukrainians, that is, in principle, even in in such a place as the atmosphere, er, approximately 65% of russians believe that the hole is considered that ukrainians are the only people of the general meeting in russia, this was mentioned, this is the first point, the second point, many people say that there is no ideology in russia, this is wrong, er, this is the second of the russian world, which has been imposed for many, many years. yes, it is directed not to the future , but directed to the past, but it is global,
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it does not matter to us, because they live in a complex in the forest, and the tables are standing up, that's why when the dear professors of london universities and colleges write, and not only they write such nonsense, in principle , they simply do not understand what is happening in the russian federation, look, in fact, the huge problem here is not because i want to say that this man is a bad specialist , it was because in general in the world almost after the year 91, russian died out and few people really understand what is happening on the territory of the russian federation to this day and the third moment, er, this war is remote for approximately 15% of the population of the russian federation for these eh, the so-called ultrapatriots, eh, what principles are they preparing to knock out the last russians, eh, all other parts of the russian
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federation ? why don't they say anything, they say, well, to themselves well, that means that's how it will be, because, as pastukhov said, well, he is a famous russian political scientist. he talked about the fact that russians are characterized by several things, such as fatalism, masochism, and quickness well, i'm sure that's what i'm here for in principle inadequate aggression, er, sediment, teachers, things that unite them but in this case, masochism and fatalism are key for putin to be able to continue here, putin understands for himself that he can get out of this war only in front of us eh or eh he will die or a miracle will happen and something will happen to ukraine, yes, but i really hope that there will be no problems soon. what do you think putin can say to his russian people in his new year's address? he said that it is difficult for
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us, i am sure i can even now, but on the first day we will talk thank you or not i think he will talk about the fact that it is difficult for us, our business is right, everything is moving in the right direction, the whole world is fighting against us, but we are the only ones who protect traditional values, and therefore, we must move on and must destroy e non-traditional values of a collective event in the form of homosexuality and other things that of course are not against which of course there are 10 of them - this is a people's war in the russian federation, this is a simple message, but it finds a further response in the hearts of the deep russian people. not only deep, that is, in principle, well , once again, they have 99% of the population of the russian federation, they have a single treaty, the all-ukrainian peace is just a softriarch of mass, and there is a hard option proposed,
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but this is all scaly, the difference between which is only the degree at times or the degree of aggressiveness, that is, no more, no less this is what is one of the deep problems and differences from 1991. then there were two ideologies, at least now there is only one ideology in the russian federation and this ideology is russian peace without the dissolution of this ideology or without its modifications of biology in principle. we will always return to the backstage. thank you, mr. vadim. let's see how it will be. we will listen to putin's address. it will be interesting. we will check it later. then we will check with your forecasts so that he should say. thank you. vadim denysenko , the adviser to the minister of internal affairs of ukraine was with us, actually, the ideology of the russian world in the russians is clear, the only thing that i found , what i would like, is my wish, so that the ukrainians finally see the light of day, because even now, when we have the 10th month of a full-scale
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the invasion will soon be the year of a full-scale invasion, how many 9 years has the war been going on, before that there was a soviet occupation, before that there was the russian empire, ukraine was simply absorbed by the russian empire, and ukrainians still don’t understand, sometimes they can’t understand what the russian measure is, they are for it it is held as if it is something part of themselves, but in fact it is what was left as a legacy after some decades and centuries of occupation , he correctly said that the problem is that russians do not believe that ukrainians exist, only everyone a russian will understand that ukrainians are something, it is not them, this understanding was once there, i think it was more than 30 years ago, but 30 years ago he was punched in the city that ukrainians do not exist because in the soviet union ukrainians were not considered russians, but now it is something like they were convinced that we are like them
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