[000:00:00;00] what is in this situation and the system of so-called management that remains with us well, it is not a system of government and i can say for sure , well, i ask one question, how can the system of management and regulation of peacetime work in conditions of extreme wartime ? well, in theory it cannot, but our practice prompts, look at the state management of the highest level in each company - this is mostly well , they distribute the money, they share there, you understand there their schemes of a clear one to buy where to unfasten kickbacks for the operators of the gts, that's why there audi shows what they did there, why the manager and everything is different in private companies, there is a different structure, but there are private shareholders, they have more control there. but fortunately, in state companies, it was preserved. this is me

, the middle one, this is the chief dispatcher of ukrenergo, i take my hat off to him. learned to keep the power system in a stable state , well, it’s just fantastic, but i take my hat off. well , they are laureates of prizes and money and some other nobel prize, no, but medals . you know exactly the same thing happens in other countries structures, and it is on these middle-class jobs, not the lower ones, that the stability of the country's energy system is now supported. moreover , i can say that i would absolutely not make a distinction here between the public sector and the private sector, because the public sector has certainly not shown itself to be more effective, you understand in this because of the situation , all the country's energy depends on professionals. well, that 's clear for today. and the government has really learned

not to interfere . some headquarters are working. protocols generate something there, they are circulars of some kind, but they have only such a value. well, the advisory value is because these protocols are legally, well, you don’t understand anything , that’s why it somehow stays like this. these are the realities we have. and maybe the last question is again for mr. oleksandr oleksandr kharchenko, general director of the center energy research, mr. oleksandr. please tell me if you look ahead, because we just talked with arseny mitseniuk about the potential of ukraine, what for what, in this case, how will the west really do such a new , some new marshall plan. something somewhere in the ukraine can, ukraine has specialists, potential, not only specialists, if the money comes, create the latest energy, the energy of tomorrow, behind the future, i don't know which, which, where

, coal will not be needed. will there be something else needed, but it will just be what will be used? people there, i don't know in the 22nd century, please, mr. oleksandr, it’s absolutely true, and from the point of view of technology, from the point of view of understanding how to do it, we now have the recognition of all the european and american energy engineers, there are a lot of people, i talk to colleagues they are now they go to see how we work, went to us, they do it in order to maintain the power system and in which modes it works and how it is done now, no one tries to tell us how to live, they listen to what we do, including how we synchronized the system with the european one in the conditions of all these missile attacks, we get it, how it works, and so on , in the conditions of crazy damage, really crazy, and we know very well what to do next, we know very well what kind of energy we need to build, we

understand well how to remove coal from ee work we well understand what to replace it with and in what time horizon this will happen and how to work a little different than we have today er network which will be more stable more powerful more secure which will provide an opportunity even in very difficult er military conditions it is a stable and normal way to provide people with electricity. this is definitely a technological and technical understanding . we know exactly what to do. and what is good today is that i have the feeling that all western partners are ready to listen to us, and i hear this very often now. the phrase please tell us what you think is right, let's discuss if before we were mostly able to do it, now we are here for you, we have someone else smart, they will tell you this they have already forgotten about it, and now this is a question, tell us how you think it should be refueled is another matter what

at the same time and here, mr. oleksii absolutely rightly touched on the issue of corruption, the issue of the quality of corporate management, the issue of the fact that we will need a lot of money in order to rebuild the energy, especially with the aim that we want an advanced green, clean, efficient and cheap enough for the consumer, which is also important energy, including the restoration of our export potential, we know technically how to do it, but it will require money and there will be a certain and i would not say difficulty, but this is a question that will have to be solved very qualitatively , how to remove doubts about that that the money will be used exactly as it should be in the most effective way, there will still be a big process, it seems to me, mr. oleksiy . do you know the medicine that can be applied to this disease of corruption, you can somehow give it

i would like to at least reduce it. i understand that this is a golden tumbler . there is no one to turn it off, but somewhere, well, do it in a year, well, by 30% , reduce the amount of koru’s bribery and scheme the scheme, and so on and so on. the minister on the mountain watched how it all happens and maybe you know some recipes. do you know where they put these recipes? maybe they are lying somewhere. but we don’t know how to take them. yes, mr. mykola, dear viewers . what is the tragedy of corruption? i am a little cynical and pragmatic right now. explain to you not even because on some contract 10 or 20%, there are pioneers. sorry, that's not the case. believe me, i'm speaking cynically, but the problem is that in order to get this money from pioneers through their contractor, what does the central government, local government

, regional government, well, all the scandals you understand, through your contractors, to start a group somewhere and cut down money, so in order to cut down money, strategically incorrect decisions are made, that is, you have to go there and do that. and they say no, we will spend millions and tens of millions there to cut down this money and in as a result, we build the wrong substations , the right power grids , the right roads, the right water networks, and so on. why did i create karpivka ? i agree not just to draw a strategic plan and fight corruption, but this is a separate, very strict policy. volya volova, we

don’t see it today, because we have to start by imprisoning three friends we do not see this, without this there will be no effective fight against, and we see as pioneer friends all this money, but without very powerful investment outpourings, and ukraine itself will not do this here without the support of the european union, for sure we will not solve this problem ourselves, and therefore we need to create the conditions here according to which options they understand and know how to count money and they this money will come to where they are interested geopolitically, we are very interesting to them now, and that is why we feel it on the support of the military , budgetary there, social, but we must do so that we make business interesting and attractive, and then our specialists together know exactly what to do, how to modernize

energy, communal infrastructure, water supply, heat , and so on and so on, but we are on the task of making us interesting and attractive to investors . unfortunately, you see that 30 years have passed since we talked about it. we are not becoming investment attractive for western capital . to the general director of the energy research center oleksandr da oleksandr kharchenko i apologize and in support of this is at the level of m-m not knowledge but such secondary knowledge i have e experts told me this story about what in support of oleksiy kucherenko from the 90s the story the beginning of the 2000s, but the very beginning was in the 90s, when the american wedenhaus was such a monster, an absolutely huge corporation that was engaged in, among many, many other

moments, nuclear fuel. and they said, we can supply you for you for your there are no questions about nuclear power plants. let's do it. let's do it . let's do it. there are world prices. they are not, they are market prices, that is, there is no such difference and we can do it. russian fuel is needed, some tweler russian and this and that well, now we understand that it depends, they say that there was such an andriy derkach, everyone, everyone, everyone was in the system, and only literally during the 14th year they started with the war and began to think about switching from russian fuel dependent on russia dependent on

some other western corporation that does not have political influence, which simply trades for itself calmly, that is, when the west and some ukrainian experts said let's go with the americans, they immediately found themselves because of maybe bribes , because of influences, because of the smiles of some ukrainians together with some russians. they said no, let's give it to you, maybe it can be cheaper and it was indeed cheaper, but this is cheaper, now you know, on february 24, this recognition is slipping sideways, so this is the situation, so, well, it’s at the level, i didn’t check here and there. i think that economic journalists will correct me or take criticism or they will say, you said correctly, mr. mykola , well, here i don’t know, we need to consult with such specialists . ukraine and the current events that both of you are not in italy for. unfortunately

, i am the only one here. if today was january 1 , 22, how did you really consider the dramatic prospects that unfolded for us on february 24, so i had absolutely such the same is the position of the american government and the american president. i read it and repeatedly told you while judging at this table that no one in the west believed and when the military and when the intelligence officers put absolutely convincing evidence on the table, then the american administration made such a decision that we are definitely not we believe, but we do everything as if what we believe, that is, we tell something to the ukrainians, we can start to think little by little about weapons, give them intelligence data , warn our european nato

allies about what is there, and they warned and it's the same in europe. everyone said it couldn't be. well, he's not crazy, this putin . that's exactly how i always said in discussions that they'll always be attacked, but my heart, well, it's my head, and my , my heart, it told me, no, it can't be. you're such a moron. a person can't stick his head in, you know, put it on the stake and wait for that knife or that ax to fall and the head will be cut off, what putin is doing now, that's why this was my version and i belong. i think that there will be fewer people like me and less and less and less because now

we all know for sure 100% no 99.99 9 9 9 i'm just that one 0:01 and they say to her i didn't believe , more precisely, i believed that the russian army would get to kyiv well, maybe not in three days maybe in three weeks maybe in three all, but the fact that this power will bring down the ukrainian army, well, the ukrainian army. and then there are the political consequences. i absolutely believed. you see, because i am old , my daughter, on the contrary, did not believe it, she just said no, we will fight back 100%. and we will win. well, it means that the generations are changing so much that now people somehow believe in ukraine. i still do i watched these parades, read these articles, what’s there, and the russians have it. it’s cool, and here it’s cool . and what have ukrainian politicians been doing in recent years, besides shouting at each other that you cheated the army and the other you cheated the army

and the third you cheated and the fourth you razkarov well, when you see there, i don't know, there is a parade on the ninth of may on red square, everyone is going here and there, tanks are going by afon, you saw it, you saw it, you saw it, what should you think , what should you think? well, we don't have anything, they have and how cases to fight when they have everything we have there is nothing. so i had doubts about the strength of the ukrainian army and i apologize to the strength of the ukrainian people. you see, i was wrong in the first one, the second one, but not one was wrong. oh, everyone was convinced that literally there, well, people love, yes, everyone thinks of themselves as a strategist, from afar, we went further , can’t help but ask what you think about the scandal with

the bulgarian. the position of the ambassador well, god, i'm mrs. olga and i'm wrong, but not only me. and in the bible , you have to evaluate it on a case-by-case basis. it looks, well, it smells a little bad . the prime minister and the commander-in-chief, who knew before the war what they would be like during the war, and that's why there is a very simple rule, this is a sovereign right, and the ministry of foreign affairs and the president, well, the president, in the first place, appoint ambassadors, there are countries

, only and exclusively career ambassadors are sent that is, there are no options there are non-career diplomats, there are those who are appointed by anyone, the president can appoint anyone, yes, there are career diplomats in ukraine , there are quite a lot of them, they are really great specialists, and we have an influence. at least i know many, i was married to the ministry of foreign affairs cases, but there is no law of such a tradition of the president exclusively career ones. and if we say not career ones, well then , well, then they are not career ones. the one who is engaged in sexual education

by production, ah, i’m not for flowers, coal, they can’t, and the rest of them can continue, i’m everywhere , as it was written in the russian novels, that’s why i can’t say when we’ll see if the bulgarians shout in a day , two or three months year what, oh, who did you send to us, if they start telling jokes, journalists will find out and we ourselves and you and i, mrs. olga, will find out, and so far, well, they have appointed well, what, what, well, they have appointed. we don’t know what kind of person she is . childhood to the minister of foreign affairs of all france, imperial and napoleonic and post-napoleonic and whatever you like, but nothing everyone now reads his books and considers ms. galina a great diplomat for 100 years yes, since the day of the formation of the ussr that

ms. galina read in september and october 2022 , a survey of ukrainians was conducted on how they feel about according to the data of the ussr , according to the data of the survey, there are still some percentages of ukrainians who want the restoration of the soviet union. in your opinion, why does nostalgia for the soviet times remain despite everything? listen, first of all, i am a human being. which has always opposed unanimity. i still believe that 1 2 3% of idiots who love the soviet union will not interfere with us, well, let's look at them, well, let's laugh. the new generation will laugh , and so on and so forth. once upon a time once upon a time, you know, once upon a time there was peace, then such a phrase appeared that only in the cemetery there is complete peace , or for putin, he has already calmed down

his country for a very long time, and in principle, then there was predictability, such a miserable poor thing monotonous gray predictability and many people like this predictability a huge number of people then liked it then less less less less less and it's them yes they liked that yes they have a small apartment there that they've been waiting for 20 years about the car i'm not saying 90%, there are no but no cars, some kind of sausage, although there was no sausage either. it is also a lie that there was a sausage for 2.20, in the capital of ukraine there were two to 20, and in the capital of the russian federation there were probably also 3.70, that is, dry moskovskaya sausage sometimes but nothing it was but today there is nothing tomorrow there is nothing you do not lose anything when you are at home nothing what do you lose yesterday 120 rubles

tomorrow 120 and that's all and this stability is so-called it is restrictive, that is, when you live in paris or in london or in new york or in to west berlin, you say to yourself, oh, if i work here receiving such an education and study there, and here i will have more money , moreover, i can prove myself as a businessman. you could be a businessman and you could not be a scientist to a certain extent, because if you were to write true history or true literature, i have great doubts that you would be able to say something, that 's it, now, so here i am, it's not what

was written to me and what i hear on the street and the difference between racism and fascism is an important question. i will have two questions about the un and about racism , fascism. i think i mentioned this. i will now cynically say do not throw in they are not fascism and nazism, they are not liars, if you are german, not jewish, not homosexual , not crazy, not mentally ill, etc., not roma, and you are just a german who goes to work, he may not even speak zig hai, he may walk there quietly

and then you have no complaints against you, you live in hitler's germany , but in fascist italy, it's just as perfect, well, you walk and walk in russia, we are modern, we aim and rockets fly, we are for internationalism, people are all equal no, only ukrainians, so that everything else is not like that good let's kill all the ukrainians and the rest is fine, well, you can also visit belarus if they refuse . well, you can visit the georgians, that is, lies, lies, lies, and lies . moreover , i once thought about it. council, if you are a muslim, not only muslims, by the way, well, i will not discuss this question because it is difficult and long, we do not have much time, if you are a religious person, go to work

, do not go out into the street, do not shout, and i am a fool here you have no complaints against you, it's just that if you're a communist you can go to work don't go to be a communist or not to be a communist to be the first secretary of the party of ukraine or not to be or a cleaner you 'll be taken to a prison and raised or shot that is to say, it's all russian the soviet is based on lies friendship of peoples there is no friendship military power there is no military power but kill steal it in 17917 it became the norm therefore racism is also a lie

fascism is a man-hater something that anti-human, but as hitler wrote meinkapf what he loves and what he doesn't love and if you answer what he loves then no one will touch you and how a puts wrote or lenin wrote they will be shot and everything and today is the same yes there is a song do they want russian wars and if you write no, the war is correct, please go to prison. well, he, too. i don’t believe in the possibility of withdrawing russia from the organization of the united nations. i don’t believe it, but listen to you, they will open himar for, too, they didn’t want to give, but maybe gradually, gradually , it can reach, and there is the question not in russia and in china, china is modern, and taiwan got into it because the generally recognized leadership fled under the pressure of mao zedong’s communists to taiwan, to formosa, and there they are

still sitting, and it was official, the chinese government , china, china and still until the beginning of the 70s taiwan sat in the security council, not china, and when russia is expelled, china will be against it, because china says that it also has such a complicated history of getting into the security council. well , you have to read and study it. i am not ready now, and they will definitely be against it. then you have to in this way, to do so that out of the five permanent members, china and russia are already two against the exit of russia, so that if china and russia throw out both russia and russia to china, i say china, uh, taiwan again , to invite a bunch of big diplomatic and surrounding diplomatic problems if i now

they will say, can i finish or not, then i will only have time to say hello for 50 seconds, that’s right, if it’s 50 seconds, i wish everyone the best for next year. i personally celebrate it. i drink it when before the holidays. maybe that's why i drink on the 24th 24th year, happy new year, i am absolutely convinced that victory will be for the ukrainians, but i would like to warn you that it will not be easy, it will be difficult, it will be difficult, but only strength in unity . then there will be strength and victory to all happy holidays and a happy new year see you in the new year, good luck ladies and gentlemen and in the mykola september program, see you somewhere on the sixth-seventh, i don't remember when

the bye-bye happy new year broadcast , i barely found a working store in three letters it is closed, there is no light, please, this bouquet is so lucky . we have it and it does not disappear. yes, the generator on the street is humming. business up to 20,000 hryvnias, they give it, i understand. thank you very much

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