which it was not native and warm, they grew up in other traditions, can it become native and warm? i think it can because it is primarily about a family tradition, it is when the family gathers and it is a holiday that has an intrinsic value. it is a holiday that has such a great idea. that is, we celebrate the birth of jesus, and even for people who are less religious, this holiday is about the fact that there is good and this holiday is about what we are waiting for, about the fact that the light will overcome the darkness, about the fact that the family from different places from different countries to stay together, it's about love, the holiday is about support, it 's about hope and about i believe that each of us is strong and that we are generally strong together, that is, this holiday is really saturated with a huge number of meanings

. unlike the new year, which is about the fact that you have to eat a lot late at night. well, somehow er, there are few motives, er, and few values, and christmas is precisely er, christmas offers precisely these values ​​to the connoisseur, to eat a lot of er, more and more , and heavy food. so, for the last one, i will just say that it is literally the same as in reality for ukrainians christmas is very symbolic and colorful this has its roots as well, in fact for russians it is their new year, i read there that in fact ria novosti has distributed it in them now and i understand it all, such a large material is being reprinted without fail about the fact that it is called the niziblya of the tradition of russian mentality, how they celebrated новый год в россии во время voyn that is, this is a very ideologically strong subtext where they explain that in 1699, by decree of peter

the great, the celebration of the new year was introduced during the northern war immediately after that as revived by the bolsheviks during the civil war, the new year was killed, then as the 41st year, the new year decided to celebrate it to raise the unity and readiness to die, that is, so that we simply always keep it in our heads. we can not afford to leave because otherwise this part of the russian russian mentality and this is part of the russian imperial hostile and military mentality and to celebrate the new year with the irony of fate - this is this this is not what we can afford today i think thank you mrs. lesya, for the conversation, for what you are doing, lesya voronyuk, cultural curator, founder of the world vyshyvanka day, was also with us, in the meantime, the russian military, er, decided to celebrate the new year as well. the

snow maidens even came to them. flint and svatov, although these signs can be read in russian for some reason, they are still those signs, god knows his word. this is how they stand . fighting spirit or what? well, we are moving on little by little, we are already in touch evgeny khmara ukrainian composer pianist virtuoso mr. yevgeny good morning to you and peaceful 7 in the morning ukraine is so kind and peaceful peaceful the most important thing about vyshyvanka she is so uh completely relaxed she went to guest, what exactly are vyshyvankas, did you specially prepare for our stage no no absolutely no vyshyvanka today is a holiday we are on the border of the new year, a victorious year for ukraine and vyshyvanka is

ours and the qr-code and the code of our nation and the qr-ko is actually about the code of our nation n evgeny we have in in the center of the capital, the conservatory named after tchaikovsky, moreover, recently everyone has been discussing it because the team said that they do not want the name of their patron to change. do you think that tchaikovsky's name should continue to be written on the conservatory in the center of the ukrainian capital ? moreover, it probably isn't. i'm sure that ukraine has worthy composers in its history. could this be named after them? conservatory well, look, i want to start right away with the fact that we will still continue to be

hostages of russian and savkov propaganda that has been happening for a decade on our land, which has always tried to point out that we are somehow not well, that is, somewhere in moscow is better somewhere in europe is better it turns out that for some reason, we do not know how to appreciate our heroes. i think it is a shame, there is no solution yet, because i raised this issue, that is, in fact , there is no official solution yet, but there was indeed a discussion and there are such opinions that such as tchaikovsky. but he, with ukrainian roots, must realize one question or everything related to the culture that is found in russia today, and this also applies to modern pseudo-stars who perform on the russian stage today, all of them have ukrainian roots. that is, in general, russia is mongolian - the tatar yoke, without any

cultural base, that is, the entire cultural history passed from us, but this does not mean that everything in the center of ukraine, the main music institution should be named after a russian composer. i think that it should be us . we have to change and we have a lot of our own composers like lysenko hm leontovych and we can go on and on and who resound all over the world that the name of the central music institution should include a ukrainian composer, that is, in fact, if we start playing in this game that let's not give our e- e of the achievements of our composers, our share of the pie of the soviet union, because not everything was as bad there as it sounds over time. then we simply blur the understanding of who we are because well, we can go very far here and come in, actually chasing what's ours, what's not

ours well, it's 100%. i believe that this issue is very relevant today. there is nothing that we have in common with this terrorist group . there is nothing. it is not pushkinska street. well , that is, nothing. i believe that everything that exists today is russia, that is, look, this country does not exist for us. in general, this is a question for ten years perhaps even more simply it is impossible and it is necessary to realize this it is necessary to change yes anyone, at least i don't know american by name i don't know moldovan romanian, anyone, anyone, but definitely not in russian, that is, you have to call yourself out, and here is another very important point. i am interested in your opinion, how do we determine what is ours and what is foreign or russian, because well, when they say , for example, that tchaikovsky has ukrainian roots this is very often said by people who then accuse other people of nationalism, that we have a too

ethnic view of the ukrainian nation, but is n't there such an ethnic approach, that is, to define someone as ukrainian only because of his ethnic origin comes out somehow well, it's just a paradox, that is, people who, uh, just blame others for the fact that we have too much 3 cm there, what kind of nationalists are they, but at the same time they will say that let 's not throw out tchaikovsky. he speaks ukrainian, what does it even matter to of the ukrainian political nation that is currently being formed, what is the origin of this or that figure of russian culture, i will remind you that the same simpleton was a croat, but he created the country this great serbia actually continues the imperial myth and in the end he became the builder of the future norman serbian war or well, well, there are a lot of such examples. well, the same dzhugashvili, whom everyone knows as stalin, he was an ethnic georgian

. is ours how to draw this into this dividing line? well, you absolutely rightly said that even if you speak for the soviet union, there were a lot of ukrainians who, for example, made decisions in matters of the holodomor, for example , stalin, he is georgian, and you can continue very for a long time, that is, that ours is not yet ours but again, returning to the history that was erased, that was completely rewritten, i repeat myself and now these are not, no, not nationalist statements, this is a real historical fact that all cultural history left kyiv, it left ukraine and all the culture in general that exists in russia today, it comes from ukraine. that is , we are partially to blame for the fact that at some point this development took place there .

identification, do you have it, i repeat that everything that has to do with russia is simply not here, and everything that is ukrainian is ukrainian, and we know that it is ukrainian . i think that it is not even necessary to talk about it. people who do not agree with decommunization, with de-sosofification, or with re -alization, and they say that you had nothing to do. this is not the time for war, that's the main thing. why did you cling to tchaikovsky or vysotsky, or some other monument in kateryna or every year? so on you have nothing to do so it doesn't mean anything that you toppled the monuments the main thing is to win the war when how not now when how not now we have to give up everything i think it's just like this you know we can't talk today that this is a positive moment but it's still necessary is looking for all opportunities, well, that is,

we were really too tolerant all these years, and even at the beginning of the war in 2014, we were quite. well, whatever, maybe we always tried to look tolerantly at some issues, but we just see what i will say honestly, i absolutely do not believe in a diplomatic solution in this line, because we see that russia is not behaving as it is called abroad, a sponsor of terrorism, it is a real terrorist country today, which, for example, in front of the world, fires missiles at our cities, what do they achieve? for this purpose, that is, are there any victories at the front, or maybe we will say oh-oh-oh, we were scared, let's end this war, no, that is, on the contrary, all these actions, they awaken us to the inputs of all aggression in the correct understanding of the word of this word, in that we have to win and we already won. i think that there is really a little bit left to make it official

and we need to preserve these forces to watch how they will fall apart because they will fall apart. this is only a small part, which is western, which generally has these cultures that moved there from us, and if you look further there, they are completely different. i think that they will be happy when they can get out of this recession. well, that's fair. to add that not only from us, of course, although in fact ukrainians were probably the architects of russia as it came to be, but there were also many germans among the dutch, french and english, who were the same. by the way, peter was the first to try to stanize russia, well, to a certain extent it's a pity that he tried it, it turned out to be unsuccessful after the first century of the beginning, you know, i 'll ask again at the end - i'll still return to the

topic of tchaikovsky, tchaikovsky is a good, good composer, he has wonderful works and more one more one another voice that often sounds it sounds so good okay it is just a figure international it is it it is not there it does not belong to the russians it is simply a great cultural achievement and there is no problem that well , that is, we can theoretically be called , for example, a conservatory johann sebastian bach maybe, theoretically, why can't it be by pyotr ilyich tchaikovsky, see the question on the tense, i really don't want to speak in nationalistic terms what a-ah no there his music is bad his music is really charming and for some reason i think that it is possible, it is possible, ah, i apologize for such a comparison, but maybe he is turning over now, he would be super ashamed, because usually the creators are

humanists, people who, you know, who create themselves, they cannot be free, because war is destructiveness but mr. tchaikovsky repeatedly stated that he was russian and he quoted the words of grandson and lysenko a little, who told the real story of the interaction between lysenko and tchaikovsky, and tchaikovsky then offered to bring the play to st. petersburg, but on one condition that it should be translated into russian, and of course mr. lysenko refused, well, you understand, there is still relevance to russian culture, and i will repeat and will repeat many relics today, everything related to russia should not be on our land, dot dot, well, after all, lysenko could also become russian a composer, if he were to present this proposal, just like the russian writer mykola gogol, who for the same long time, for example, weighed everything, whether to rewrite

the same ending of taras bulba under the demands of st. petersburg, but he did it only today. to be a ukrainian is always to make a choice, even if you can be born somewhere abroad near ukraine and then come here and say i am ukrainian, then you choose this or you are born here and you also choose to be a ukrainian or to be a person of the world, a person from russia, i don't know what is more important to you in in any case, born here or born not here, it's still a choice ukrainian - it's always a choice thank you mr. yevgena yevhen khmara ukrainian composer pianist virtuoso with whom we talked a little about the conservatory in kyiv should it still be called by name tchaikovsky, who, despite the fact that he had ukrainian roots, said that he was russian , in fact, even the flint boots fell off during this conversation, she was too tall for them, they simply did not understand anything. it seems to me that such a moment happened now,

because as a rule, they react to it in such a way, they say so who are you? well, in general , tchaikovsky, to be honest, it's not their topic, if we were to touch it now, dear rastarguyev , that's something, so today they're already preparing enough olivier, they're probably preparing liver with very early in the morning so that she can survive the evening dinner, and that's why they are already with their noses in olivier, now they are sleeping well, theirs, of course, and what can they be a foie gras hook, how do they have foie gras of their own since childhood, they have been preparing her for actual cirrhosis gentlemen , let's talk a little bit about security, not our livers, but our er brains and our er smartphones they can be potentially dangerous, and besides the fact

that they are, as it turned out, potentially dangerous, they are potentially the most downloaded among ukrainians. artem good morning . why did they decide to do this in the first place, because at the beginning of the full-scale war there was such a big campaign to withdraw e-e international companies from the russian market and basically everyone focused on some kind of business that you can hear there production of electricity in the form of various devices, a food company, etc., but in fact, there are a lot of companies working on the it market, and there was almost no focus on them, and we entered the top stores, that is, applications on ios and tops on android. and we decided to see in general what kind of company is developing there all

applications we also selected the market of ukraine, i.e. what ukrainians download and looked separately for android and separately for ios and actually the worst situation is on ios and there, in principle, if you look at gaming applications, there are about 20%, and russian developers if you look at just ordinary applications that are needed to cover some needs, there are about 15 of them, and the problem is that they are disguised because they are working as a russian in 2023-2022. this is not very good, and they, for example, conditionally write that there is some yura person in germany. but you start looking at where people work for them and there you can see, for example, that they have half of the staff in russia, or you look at the graduation for this person, and there from this person it is written as a russian. and in general, there are several reasons why this is important, the first is because these russians earn on the applications of these and then they pay this money to the salaries

of employees in russia, they pay money to the budget . and secondly, it is dangerous because they receive a lot of data from the phones of ukrainians, and conventionally, if you look at the top 10 applications there, every third one is russian. and this means that there are about 100,000 times, well, that is, millions of ukrainians ' donations flow into the russian federation, and conditionally there if there is any application where you can play cards. yes, for example, some fool is russian there. well, conditionally, there is almost nothing critical here, but there is, for example, an application it's called lens. it allows you to make such graphic avatars when you upload a photo of your face and it makes it look like a little cartoon style, and there you leave your mail right away, conditionally, the same facebook users get a paste between your phone, mail, and your face, which they can use in for your purposes, how did you use it if yes yes tell me how you used it, for example journalists

and activists download the lenza application and when they register, they indicate their email address and add their face, and conditionally it comes out as big the table gives a face, for example, the mail and then, for example, the russian fsbshniks do an investigation about someone, they kill the mail , for example, journalists and immediately receive his face, and then i don’t know, russians cross borders, they already know, for example, what a person looks like, if you look there, facebook , for example, and it’s like this, then such a wave one by one, someone did it, and the other wanted to repeat what i saw recently, that artificial intelligence, although i did not use it and, as a rule, i do not participate in all kinds of e-e applications that change there face or there, when you can move your eyes in a video or your photo and you are there, what is someone singing there, for example, how can you become

elton john, conditionally speaking, this is the last thing you had to imagine yourself who were you in a past life, they threw an image at you, everything is not russian , but - and we, to be honest, we researched this app, but we need to look at it, it's a good question, a lot of things also appear, some kind of tests and what awaits you in the next year, i just saw how people post the results of all this of course, i don't know how people believe in this because this is what i have the impression is that something randomly produces some kind of result, and next year you will get married, and a happy person writes that i have this for next year, this is what awaits me, such things, all kinds of test programs , how much safer they are for collecting people's personal data, you can remember elections in america, when trump won the past and there was a scandal with the camry company, an analyst who

collected personal data there through facebook from several hundred million americans. they like what they are interested in and then on the basis of this they made personal political companies for these people my there is a person interested in i don't know there any cars then there was a trump ad talking about cars well and so they shared such a language eye a few people not segments and thanks this is partly why trump won the election, and what exactly did i do, they collected this data from facebook and they did tests on facebook, conditionally, who will you be next year, you will pass the test, but in order to register, you need to be given access to your facebook account and mail, come on. let 's talk about some extreme things. for example, we downloaded, you downloaded some epka that is russian, and it's there, it's like some kind of entertaining game, but it requires, will allow, to memory, to your, for example, contact data, to your list of contacts, to your there is a photo gallery for your

calls, for example, using the microphone and camera. it’s okay if you imagine that the fsb is behind this application, how can they use it, how can they control your smartphone, and maybe through it by the way, even with some other things in the house if they are tied to the smartphone, well, it is rather mainly for collecting personal data, that is, conditionally, there is an application , getcontex, which allows you to see how you are signed in other people's phones, and it is also a russian company and when you register there, it asks for access to your phone contacts, that is, in this way, you fill in their base and get access to their base, that is, there can be a danger here, for example, the same couple of wills, for example, through the phone, and so, for example, to hack some correspondence, how does it all happen, or are these risks the same? well, it probably doesn’t work like that. it

depends on the conditional applications, well, that is, for example, there is an official telegram client, and there are some unofficial telegram clients where you can change the design, that is, there are many of them in the app store and those who already add access to their correspondence, i.e. in such a case, it can be when you use unofficial clients. and in general, your attitude towards telegram as such, i.e. is it still dangerous to nastia, because we have telegram everyone uses the military a lot, for example, journalists now because we have a full-scale invasion and because journalists carry out their activities not only on television, on the radio, in the media, in print, on the internet, but they also host some personal pages, which mostly also are such as working pages and very often i see from colleagues that they are switching from facebook because any of their posts can fall under threatening content or something else and facebook

blocks and then also sends a warning that you will do this a few more times, so we will block your page altogether, and lately i see a lot about the fact that i did not want to switch to telegram, but now i switch to telegram and start my telegram channel there. how safe is this telegram install to have news eh the last thing i read about telegram was about a man in kherson who was detained by the occupiers . the last few months of fsb-shniks actually ah well, look at this particular case, the representatives of the special services have, for example , special technical means that allow us to get even deleted from telegram, well conditionally or from some other manager, because it is cached and sometimes remains in the memory well, it

is founded by a russian and they have several people in the states in russia, but he says that he is not related to anyone there and does not support russia, and in general, they were impressed, but we left as the events of this year showed the russians in general, you can never believe and they only lie, that's why i was cautious about telegram in some sensitive moments and with critical correspondence because there are more secure messengers, for example, signal is called such a blue icon or three it’s better to use telegram conditionally if you don’t say anything secret there or just read a new one on conditions , well, and i’ll also ask why it’s boring in the states they banned tik-tok for civil servants and in general they say that it’s possible those who will be banned in principle in the united states well,

i think there may be several directions here, the first is in general the political confrontation between the states and china, which has been going on there for three years, and in principle, this application collects quite a lot of personal data of americans, that is, the conventions of your submission, when there is your the phone is turned on, er, all your contacts, that is, i think there is also a political er moment about the fact that the chinese have won something on the american market, and the second is a security moment, that they collect quite a lot data about americans are then transferred to china. well, in china, of course, you can’t keep your personal data, you always share your data with the state. these are practical tips for people who, in principle, have smartphones and have no idea what’s in that smartphone or what. what they want to install on that smartphone can be a threat to them. what should they pay attention to, what should repel them? well, probably the main thing is

the geolocation settings, because you can analyze quite a lot of data through geolocation, and you need to check which applications they collect geolocation conditionally, there is, for example , a bank. how long ago have banks and they just have access to geolocation, but it is only needed when you pay? in other words, you need to set the settings there only about the use of e-e chiyobka from a taxi. they also do not need constant access to the location. i am only under time of use, the second moment is when the application, for example, asks for access to contacts a-a in the application itself, there is no sense in this at all, and it is also necessary to control access to various sensors of the phone, speech camera, e-e, microphone a-a this is also it is necessary to control. well, as for applications in general, it is necessary to look conditionally, well, they often write about the investigation of applications, you can go to the list to see and delete what is indicated in russian, because even if he does not spy, you, these people, earn money. they

then transfer taxes and then rockets are falling, the rocket is financed by the russian army . thank you, artem starosik, the founder of the molfar intelligence agency, was with us and told us which applications on our phones could be dangerous for us. now listen, let's see, we'll make it and see, we won't make it . with sound, although you can

look at it without sound. but with sound it is better . suffering, this christmas has the taste of tears and the color of blood, but it is enough for us to surrender a son to the enemy in the struggle, a nation is born. may the lord protect you, dear ones, may our victory be the beginning of the prosperity of ukraine and the end for russia, everyone who is in the ranks, who will now receive our position of relatives and loved ones, our defenders and defenders