i will start yes, i may even speak for two people, because there are several representatives of our family here, it’s actually february , you and khrystyna work together for a whole year, and we also live together for more than a year . one, two, it's not only, that is, all of us , all of us are a family of espresso in any volume, well , in our family with andrii, uh, the vakuryukiv site, kyiv february is basically such a joyful month, because at the beginning of february, we celebrate andriy's birthday at the end of february my father's birthday and traditionally at the end of february, we celebrated this birthday by going skiing in order not to just sit at the table and drink and not spoil our liver, but to actually celebrate it in a sporting way. well, it was not until 2022 that it happened by coincidence. ended up in my hometown in khodorov in the lviv region and luckily

we were probably not in buch, where we lived for the past few years and where in fact in november, a few months before the war, we moved into our new house, which we had been planning for a long time money for repairs was collected for a long time, the money was noted there christmas is still without furniture, but in a happy and cheerful company, it’s true that the new year was not celebrated there, we celebrated it just as we met it on the way, we were going to lviv and if we were fording, we stopped at a gas station there and it was exactly 12 hours. well, we were going to visit friends to celebrate in the same way to lviv and then andriy, my mother, my mother-in-law said, what are you doing? where are you going on the new year's road? they say that if you meet someone on the road on new year's day, you will spend the new year, and in principle , we spend the year on the road, we pack all the time. we are moving some suitcases well, they are alive hello, the first day of the war, how did it look like, the first day of the war, uh, i woke up

, looked at andrii and said well, what started and he said it started because he was already sitting reading the news. i looked at my phone and received a message from my friend, a journalist from poland, pavlo uh, this is a bit symbolic, such and such a message from him, he asked where you are, and i said, i'm at my parents' house. he says, well, maybe it's good that my parents, uh, actually pavel was probably our first guest in our house, that new house before which we moved and he and i came just before the war in a few months to do a report and of course what we said was because already the whole media space and in principle the whole air was buzzing with whether or not the war would be full-scale actually and fell then to say you know no worry, i think that putin will not dare to do this and pavel's message on february 24 after he asked where i am and what is with

me and what is with my family he said you know i'm sorry please i was wrong well but actually but actually then i again that's why myself i wrote to pavlov because i was away from work and i wanted to be useful at this moment, not just sit by the tv screen and watch what is happening, not just monitor the news in e-news feeds, but do something else that i know how to do. i wrote to the same pavlov, and he works on one of the largest polish news tv channels. i say, listen, i can send some videos from tik tok from streeter's facebook or something so that people in poland can see what is happening here, and he sent me to the producer of this tv channel who called me and heard me speak the polish cast let's not be - you will send us videos, you will tell us about what is happening with you and this is how i spend the whole year. so i tell the poles what is happening in our country something

can be useful in your country, not only to the poles, don't forget about the great ukrainian people, about our great political nation, which also hears you every day, andria, well, i would like you to add to it. i saw the phones there that a full-scale war had begun and a full-scale invasion. i probably belong to those people who, to be honest, believed that there would be a war. there were already such signs that were quite convincing from the month of november . i asked myself many times. i said, of course, i should go. yes, go . everything is fine. well, on the second day, there was already a fight near our house. they started with themselves , so the question was, what should i do ? lviv is now opening a second editorial office on the express tv channel. at that time, there was this editor who was appointed. he was

from ternopil. he did not know lviv at all. there was such a funny story that he told me that you know it on uh, this uh, on dovzhenka street who knows that lviv is in sikhiv? i'm talking about super. my relatives have a house right there. it's perfect for me right now . let's do it. i came to night sikhiv and looked somewhere in a closed kindergarten for the espresso tv channel. well, everything was on but in the end i found it and since then i'm here and i can honestly say, well, we're doing what we can, so, well, let's move on to the most interesting thing, christina, how did you meet the first day of the war? we can also tell you the story for you. i still consider this experience successful , first of all, because we quickly found our

way. including intuition, i was forced to collect the most necessary things in a single package, it happened completely situationally that our colleague hanna valevska was going on vacation and i had to replace her here in lviv, we agreed on this in advance and i came here with my family with a baby and a husband, we have a tradition if anyone has any business trips. we try to hold on and that's how we all ended up here . literally two days pass that night. i remember a crazy time . i didn't sleep well. opened it in 40 seconds, i started getting calls from overseas and relatives who live in the

united states and one question you already know and i understood what i should know - he says the war has started so he says so i turn on everything that can be turned on i look at our working chucks, it was actually very difficult to read what our kyiv colleagues write, i hear an explosion, there is a siren near us, something is buzzing and shooting, it was very scary for them, ah, it was crazy, of course, stress and fear with corresponding reactions of the psyche and the body as a whole, and then anxiety in lviv and those first sounds of the first alarm i will certainly never forget we never lived in a hotel then and i understood that people had to be woken up, they had to be taken somewhere, they had to be asked where the nearest shelter and storage was. very

confused well, then we went to work and already met there, we realized that we need to somehow support our colleagues from kyiv, because the resources there are not infinite, so to speak, it fell at a certain moment well, i can't help but tell about my first day of war so would to say i overslept a little according to tradition, it is meant that the house was placed accordingly there at eight o'clock so everything started much earlier well and accordingly the siren sounded but the siren i thought was an alarm clock in one word yes the psyche is strong and stable well and accordingly start opening oh no no no i open my phone, and i see 100 million messages there, so to speak, you know this from the inside out, well, masters of the obvious, don’t forget, don’t forget, friend , be informed. well, i understood everything there beforehand , in principle, everyone was morally ready, i think

the only thing around that everyone hesitated would not be, well , in principle, i believed that it would be, that is, in total, some basic preparatory points were made there, you know, the key formula was well, and to describe the premonition of the free with or without concentration camps, now it became clear that with concentration camps, with your murders well, but then still well, we cared about certain, so to speak , illusions, it will be in this format or in another, how it will all look, well, after that, understanding that the first thing to do is to turn on the missiles, i put the strategic laundry so that later there will be no washing, and accordingly, after that same day, only in the evening, the woman does all the washing, in particular white shirts, of which there are a lot of them, she put them to iron, they ironed them, that is, these are the production moment, that is, one well, you know, you should

prepare, then the next step was to go to the neighboring stores and to buy a couple of concerts because the situation could be uncertain, we understand that the enemy could try to break through and compares rivne zdolbuniv, that is, they would then have reached the frontiers that are profitable for themselves. well, not so it happened in february, yes, there were panics , in fact, on the first day, the mood was even in khodorov, where we were, that is, some people thought that it would all be over tomorrow, we said, people, in fact, it will not be like that, even if everything goes very badly, everyone went to the atm for a moment. they forgot what it was . you don't need to wear masks anymore, and as people say, listen to the coronavirus and go to the manager, listen, ladies, and the war has already started, what kind of coronavirus is this? this is another

joke . what then we started, well, in general, we all have a different life in common, that is, life on tv , so after the work of the kyiv editorial office collapsed due to certain reasons, well, the main ones, so to speak, on the basis of which the responsibility fell on our editorial office. well, it began. that is, we reported, we attracted people who, well plus or minus, they tried to think soberly, so as not to spread panic, on the one hand, and on the other hand, to reflect on something that, in principle, does not lend itself to reflection when the fighting is going on, this is a story about life, about death, about progress, because it is very important it was something that i tried to do and i saw that they do it on espresso while driving . it was also not to convey my anxiety, my own , this anxious state of the audience, so i had to remain completely professionally calm, and this was also difficult in the first, but not in the first days to me for example, because it was difficult for me well and

accordingly we began to talk about our beautiful or not beautiful speech well but we spoke and reported all the most important things we accordingly involved our main experts so well what will the next year bring us we will see the 23rd glorious year. i think that, unfortunately, there will be no less blood, so there will be no less grief , but how to give advice to ourselves with that grief, we will also try to reflect there during our further conversations. that ukraine, which is an extremely technologically skilled nation, that is, that the ukrainians have mastered such weapons, which, well , in general, we have not even heard of. let's talk about it. for all this during this almost year of war, and every time , what is common about this inclusion at the beginning of the war

and even now at this stage, when kherson is already divided in the liberated kharkiv region and so on, the enemy smith of kyiv is rejected, but the question that always comes up is the issue of weapons well, it writes , times change, that is, now, for example, they say give us a little of these high-precision projectiles, because we already know where they are, there are guns, let's fire them like that, that is, but the issue of weapons itself never ceases to be relevant, our appetites for good are growing are growing and we always lack the langlists american and european allies for our appetites. well, these appetites are good because we have a young loose body. i think that the ukrainian state needs more weapons. i said , you know, there was such a fighter in my childhood that we need more guns. in russian , i watched another version, this is actually our leitmotif, listen, and er, ukrainians even already even

their children. period of this war. he had some kind of weapon that was a game changer, what is called in our country , changed the rules of the game, primarily for the russians, of course, that is, they came with their rules, suddenly one time a byraktar appeared and changed these rules of the game, and it turned out that, for example, their tank columns were already there nothing at all, but only to burn them, of course, they were javelins, which worked fantastically, remember more than 90% was effective at the beginning of the war, when they were very actively used, when they already pearls with their tanks and still not understanding what they are trying to do the pentagon absolutely yes, that is, it is you, it is certainly effective, the weapons are now there, the elites are almost relevant, we already have such more serious toys, such adult toys , of course well, but first let's look at the actual plot about it, how everything changed our armed forces and our requirements and supply of weapons for the ukrainian army well, and then a little we

will discuss this more than 95 percent of ukrainians have such a level of trust in the armed forces today and this is the best assessment of the ukrainian army after 24 in february, in a recently published report, the royal joint institute for defense research, a respected british think tank, claims that it was the professional and resourceful actions of the armed forces, in particular the ukrainian artillerymen, and not the javelins of stingharich enlau, that played a decisive role in the defense of kyiv at the beginning of the war, just then the west believed that the ukrainians would win and began to help systematically, in fact, with the launch of rammstein, ukraine began a large-scale rearmament of the army already in the first half of the year , the armed forces received several dozen salvo missile systems, in particular himers and mars, two of which changed the course of the war by accurately destroying targets located at a distance of up to 80 km, the transition of the

ukrainian army to the nakhiv artillery caliber of 155 mm was of great importance, hundreds of artillery systems from partners, in particular the american m-77, the french caesars and the polish crabs reduced the fire superiority of the enemy, hundreds of armored personnel carriers, in particular, austrian burschmasters helped to liberate kharkiv region, and thousands of anti-tank systems, such as the legendary javelin, neutralized tank power the enemy has more than a thousand portable anti-aircraft missile systems, the most famous of which the stinger is shot down not only by enemy planes and helicopters, but also by missiles. however

, the allies are still wary of giving ukraine some types of weapons, primarily modern tanks such as the german leopard 2 and the french leclerc and modern planes such as the american f-16, the minister of defense oleksiy greznikov is confident that the arguments against the allies will soon end, this is an evolutionary path that you and i could not have imagined a year ago that we would have a system volley fire in which hyper i am 270 or 155 caliber, our partners are very practical , pragmatic and realistic, therefore they clearly understand if they give us some new system , they will be aware that they have ammunition for them in their warehouses or missiles and a repair system, there are instructors and our guys air defenses are also being strengthened by otse trained personnel, the first state-of-the-art complex of the german iriste system is already operating in ukraine and, according to military personnel, it knocks down 9 out of 10 targets on combat duty, american-norwegian

sams systems and ukrainian hop systems have become available the army is fast, its nato standards are not only about weapons, but also about logistics and the military management system, all this will help ukraine to win, actually, i propose to discuss this military topic a little bit. i don't know how to do it. less good, just as well, i really like what you liked the most out of all the weapons, which team i just won’t even try to somehow twist my soul, uh, i’m only worried about the fact that it became a little more tolerant when we understood that they were giving us those weapons. i remember the first days of nato. where are you? nato, close the sky. maybe you will somehow stand up for us. i remember these attitudes

of society and i remember how i understood that this was all it won't lead to anything, because it's normal in a situation where it won't lead to anything. we're not a member of the alliance and we have to think about how to defend ourselves now, but you know. you don't need to give us fish, give us a fishing rod and we'll catch it, and that's ours the weapon is the fishing rod with which we still catch this fish, but somehow i can't get out of my head the preparation for of a possible large-scale invasion, i still don't understand why the bohdans, which we also have 155-millimeter guns, were only available in a few pieces, and why weren't there more of our native systems to be made and be better prepared? i remember how and here's the answer right away we understand defense orders and the budget, that is, there is a nomenclature, but there is no money, there is no budget line in order to

purchase it, but why do you already know this? to the collective recruitment, in particular, of the verkhovna rada, and so on. and so on after the war eh and i think it is fair on the other hand eh again i understand that the weapon is the distance we have to go now we are perhaps somewhere in the middle because did we prohamers dream literally at the beginning of spring no it was something completely unattainable but now we use them successfully and there are locations on the map of our country where it was a decisive factor, so i think that we still have a long way to go. by the end of the year, we can already say that we have achieved patriotism, we have achieved patriotism in the sky, but long- range weapons so that we can to control everything that we need to control, it is still ahead and there are many arguments that we will need to present to our partners,

to convince them, this is our job, but we really hope, of course, that we will actually have the possibility of attacks from these missiles , and as far as i understand, of course, we are not there are super experts here, but here you actually communicate with experts all year round, so you hear a lot while walking. well, how do you keep track of the mark and finish reading everything according to the experts? well , well, to be honest. how do you sometimes look, it will not be called what other marathon level examinations sometimes i actually prepare for the broadcast at seven in the morning, we start accordingly, i also see some other alternative broadcasts, yes, there are two, and i am surprised, but listen, no, no, you are not doing that. i connected it to the computer, made a cup of coffee, brought a cushion on which she is sitting , because even behind this table, it

reveals such a small secret, you see such a kitchen behind the scenes, but why am i saying all this to the fact that, well, the same attacks this is, for example, as far as we understand what are they not 150 km this is not some kind of not a terrible breakthrough, it left there two times more than, for example, now the hymers, but they will take the supply line from us to the front 80 km from e in which they are even weaker. that is, it will mean that they have even more problems not in the front line, they have command posts for the commander even further away, and it is even more difficult to give any orders because they have problems precisely with the supply of information and the exchange of information from the front line of documentary points, it is basically a very, very sweaty weapon that will greatly increase our capabilities so that we cannot, we cannot exchange, conditionally speaking, 200,000 for 200,000 , no, of course, of course, we have no moral right, no right, and physically. if we compare the mobilization reserves of our russian

federations well, we understand that they are not comparable, we have to compare this war with very little blood. and it helps in this only the weapons of the allies, in particular, not only the armed ones, anyway, these weapons are nothing if there are no people who are motivated and who want to use weapons correctly, you know, i have a lot of open data. what, for example, during the first world war, when there was total mobilization and literally everyone there, men were sent to the front, and somewhere there, 80 or more percent of the soldiers were specially shot - where, but not in uh, not whole other people , that is, they were not soldiers until the end, let's say. i think that this is not the story that is on the ukrainian front on the russian front. i think that everyone is actually a soldier of the armed forces of ukraine, he left in order to kill the enemy, he has a clear motivation, and the better the weapon, the more successful it allows to do it, the better for us, that's why we want these atoms, and of course we want everything, of course, tanks, in

principle, zaluzhny voiced our e wishes so what can you do to uncle sam in a word to all good people of goodwill we are ready to master well the key question so why are we 350 days of full-scale russian invasion of our lands this story is so to speak drop by drop gradually i.e. very it is difficult to talk about the real motivation of our allies or partners or just friends, as far as i understand, we have not signed any such security agreements. well, maybe there is some kind of agreement with the united states, but it does not oblige them to do anything says the fifth article of the euro-atlantic charter, and we understand that if we talk about weapons, we need iron papers. we need an iron mandate that would sign to help us without fail, that is, at this level. so this

could provoke, so to speak, and the involvement of our friends in the current status, well, he and the russian federation are afraid of this, the russian federation is afraid of this in general, i think it was afraid of whether there was one ready-made euro atlantic society, that is, they hoped that somehow it would be possible to localize something with certain losses, so to speak, of course, but from our side and not theirs, and here we have all entered a fundamentally new world, this is a war, in essence, a phase transition, that is, a transition in which what was literally there 5 minutes or 10 minutes ago turned into water, into ice or, for example, which has turned into a pair and accordingly it can no longer be localized, would someone like it or not , we see this is a crazy forward movement on the part of putin's russian federation. that is, it is like an echelon, you understand, which is gaining momentum

, that is, it is much more difficult to stop when they elected when they elected biden and elected biden and delivered their speech, and the speech was good in principle, in particular, he promised that he would return america to the world and normalcy to the world. it was trump. very well, i don't remember one of the critics somewhere in the washington post who said that it was a good speech, it's good that they took biden, but the truth is that he won't be able to regain his normality, we are rushing towards something very abnormal, it smells very abnormal and that's what happened that is, we we have moved into a world that has left the normality that we knew until recently, but we are going to the new. what do you think, why do our partners still do it step by step, drop by drop, as antin said ? well excuse me for saying monkeys with a grenade. that is, they don't trust us

, they didn't trust us at least. are they afraid and slanderous? i think that these were very clear warnings, very specific warnings through very specific channels, where our russian enemies outlined the situation, so under what conditions they can apply, so to speak, or an operation peaceful atom well, simply, lord , it is about perhaps a military provocation at the zaporizhia nuclear plant, or it is about the use of certain non-conventional missiles, and i think that this could have had an effect something and on our partners, but still everything is moving in such a direction that everyone already understands that this war will not end, it can only affect, well, first of all, of course, the species of the russian federation and lithuania, latvia, estonia, maybe finland, yes, the second russian army is based there and in general, well, the apocalypse does not happen, you understand , partial, that is, i would not like to be such

a bad prophet, but let's talk about weapons, if about weapons in the wrong context, about what was handed down to us, and about what we ourselves had, and i think that we are very surprised our allies because it is the tenacity of the ukrainians, it is ingenuity, it is some tricks that the ukrainians resorted to, it is some incredible motivation when the ukrainians surprised the same allies by coming to study and showed such interest when they threw lunch, dinner, breakfast there and said let 's learn to master this and that new weapon and those trainers who were trained by the military said, lord, we have not seen such things before, or even uh, inventions to make wooden heimers and take away enemy weapons in this way that they still haven't hunted any haimas , that is, they were pounding on some wooden toys made of life-size

photo printing of what we now know, photo wallpapers that we covered in lithuanian hangars and satellites, satellite pictures taken by the russians in them , they are not very high-quality satellites they take bad photos, they don’t see well, it’s real or not. no, the wallpaper was airplanes, that is, they printed out airplanes like that on photo wallpapers , don’t you know, 100 m by 100 and they stretched it just like that, near lithuania, as if from there are parked airplanes of the muscovites, in the first days they just stupidly pounded there with their calibers and, in addition to those weapons, so look, there was one such weapon that was important, so the other can not convey it, it’s just what exactly the ukrainians were thinking about, maybe 7 was hinting at something somewhere, but i think it there were civilian weapons, that is, when civilians killed russian soldiers, in particular, we are talking about the massacre of chernihiv oblast, so unfortunately, a lot of local organizations, so to speak, who were supposed to deal with the issue of weapons, could not due to certain reasons

to organize the appropriate process and people gathered, i.e. the hunters took rifles and they went very often to the last battle, killing the intervenors, i.e. a rifle, a rifle against tanks, this is also a weapon, or a woman, remember which one started shouting to the military, russian attack , get out of here, this is my land here this is the story, well, actually, i think that they were against men, not that they are afraid of them, no, i think that there was just a certain order for a while, relatively speaking, then everything changed critically, unfortunately, and this caused before the appearance of a large number of killed civilians in our memory. well, let's talk further, in particular, about what surprised me personally. i did not really expect this, i was afraid of this factor.