respectable people, how could the ukrainian diaspora resist? maybe they are still protesting against this information company, which, to be honest, has not ended. how to deal with this propaganda influx, today there are fewer problems in the western world because the leaders finally understood. i will tell the euro-atlantic community that this propaganda of theirs should be closed and that is why they closed this money today and other other channels, but still i will say that there is a problem with ethnic russians in many of those countries where they still get this information through the internet and they blow, i often meet with the russian community in other countries, and they believe in this propaganda, and it is, it is, it is telling, regarding our western partners and the russian distance. i think today there is no big problem, i

would say that it's a harsh disinformation somewhere, but i'm nuanced, let's say, where do we even see it ? a negative drink, that is, disinformation takes other, other styles. it is not as frank as what the nazis in ukraine say, they understood that the western world does not understand us. the main thing now is childhood, the american world, the african world, and the asian world, because there is russian propaganda and more prevails, and that is why we are working closely with the minister of foreign affairs and the ministry of foreign affairs to start focusing more of our energy on disinformation in those countries of asia, latin america and africa, and it is necessary in their conditions and

for example, there are sons of the ukrainian community in brazil or argentina, and we are trying to tell the truth about ukraine. for us, this is not a question of fighting against russian disinformation. it is us trying to create a ukrainian world to tell the truth about ukraine, and this truth will sound more effective than trying to fight against something but in these very ukrainian communities in brazil or in argentina or in other latin american countries, they are generally aware of the reality of how close they are to these european problems, er, they are just today there is a huge economic crisis in latin american countries and they are more focused on their internal economic problems than what is happening elsewhere in the world, and therefore i think the most important thing for us is to make them understand that there are great advantages of being a partner with ukraine and being the western world, because

very often countries have nothing against ukraine, but they even have anti-american views, and ukraine is supposedly an ally of the united states, and so it is better to lose . of the united states and we know that this is far from reality, tell me if you look at the e- map of the ukrainian diaspora, about which the diaspora could now say how about the most successful and active in terms of helping ukraine, you can talk like that about someone who is like that i would say the locomotive of this struggle means it is very, very difficult to say who is the most because where would i go is it uh to germany to poland everyone helps a lot and everyone in their own way but i will say first the war uh i was in the ukrainian cultural center warsaw and uh, i see how there ukrainian

volunteers uh, born in poland, uh, worked with refugees effectively, one thing is that they formed volunteer foundations uh, they appealed to the poles to open their homes and they did such a thing with each other uh- eh, we see how much the country of poland helps ukrainian refugees, or there are the most of them, eh, as we see, poland's social protection is famous and eh, it's hard to say the most, but i will say that eh, all western civilized countries eh work hard to to help ukrainian refugees is refugees a what about military aid? well, i think we know very well that the united states is number one, but this is due to the precedent that great britain gave, and looking at now

as the european union, great britain, and the united states, canada to its help, it is if the top is the top -donors to ukraine, but our neighbors, most of our neighbors, strongly support ukraine, so tell me, before the war, there was such a phenomenon, do you know about it, when it appeared next to traditional ukrainian organizations, such as classic ones, which existed for ten years and attracted their work a huge number of people, i would say yes , you can even say volunteer activist initiatives, the people themselves wanted to create some ukrainian circle into a professional circle, maybe a student circle, maybe a circle of some non-emigrants of the new wave, and it was such a different environment, i saw it just during a meeting with the ukrainian diaspora in in different countries in the united states in portugal in poland how do these different environments arise that sometimes even outside the world congress outside of

this traditional i would say this line of unification is the war it gave everyone an opportunity in your opinion, to unite efforts in this environment. i don't see any big disputes almost anywhere. once when they came after the second world war, many of those politicians from ukraine were brought with them. they were there. well, this was politics after the war. or after during the war policy, this is almost gone already, but also with emigrants, with new ukrainians , or with migrants in those countries, new centers are being created, and i call on all our traditional organizations to be very open, to be open to new ideas it's not like there used to be such and such a saying. well, you must first sweep the floor and fold the chair, and then maybe someday

i'll give you the opportunity to sit at the table with our leaders, and it's changing a lot, but still... we have to be very open to this, and that is why the ukrainian congress is very open. we want to be this big umbrella that everyone can feel part of and participate in. this does not mean that they have to belong to us. we are a very democratic organization. elected by our members every four years and i am accountable to him. therefore, we are calling because this is a way where we can influence the processes of the world when we are united, we can influence the processes in ukraine when we are united, and this is the main thing that there should be such a call for us to work together. by the way, if to continue this system of the environment, we talked about russian-speaking ukrainians, but new ones are emerging. i would say that in the environment of english-speaking ukrainians in canada and the united states, in the

french-speaking ones in france, we see this. and here's how to make these people who actually already speak in their families in english or in french or german or in some other language or in spanish, it often happens in latin america that they have kept this interest in ukraine and with this ukrainian identity even while losing it. maybe that is why you, with whom their parents or grandparents came to these countries, well, it is important to understand that it has been in those countries for 4-5 generations, and looking at brazil and we now have to translate everything into portuguese, and in argentina into spanish, and looking even at western canada, there are 4-5 generations of ukrainians. what has lost its language but still still heard by the patriots of ukraine and i will never, never forget, as it were, at the one big festival in the dauphin of menetoba - it is 3 hours for the wines of pegu,

a huge dance festival, dance ensembles from the goals of north america come there and everyone sings, dances, is painted in blue and yellow colors, but they don't speak ukrainian, that is, i really ask for and cherish the ukrainian language because it is one language that unites all of us 65 million ukrainians in the world, but the reality is that they will kill the language, but the main thing is that they do not lose the identity that they have lost love for the ukrainian people to love for ukraine and i see that it works because there is a lot of ukrainian culture, very deep and very interesting and i think you will agree that we love it very much and this attracts people to love to be ukrainians and that is why it is nurturing ukrainian traditions of ukrainian culture and it is very important that we keep conscious as an active ukrainian diaspora for many generations and what can be done for

this resource, you know, there was ukrainian canaden, since the publication there was designed for english-speaking ukrainians already in there are many such publications that were published in north america. then they began to be published in european countries to a lesser extent in other european languages, and in the times of social networks, how did you unite people who are ukrainians, we are also ukrainians who speak with different languages ​​well, first of all, it is necessary to start with each country, and it is important to build institutions in those countries that will educate well-known ukrainians for many generations. ukrainian churches, ukrainian religious organizations, there were ukrainian kindergartens, schools, student organizations, the plast union of ukrainian youth, where i joined, my children go to, and there were ukrainian student

organizations, there were art ensembles and dance ensembles, and all the way to professional e clubs and organizations and we also have, like in canada, even pokhilovik dumas, that is, there are ukrainian cemeteries, that is, a whole cycle of ukrainian life. you can find great britain in canada and america, and it is possible that we built in those countries where there are new communities, so like italy, like germany, and that is why it is very, very important to create these institutions in these countries, because even if they are losing their language, so that they acquire knowledge and love about and knowledge , and train them so that they can protect the interests of ukraine, and this they were already very politically aware of what was happening with the ukrainian community in e.e. russia, in which it is not always the diaspora, it is very often people who live on ancient ukrainian ethnic lands , and i told you that i was one of those who created the first ukrainian organization in in russia, when it was possible to do this during the period

of perestroika, and now i look at it with a big smile on the river, they can’t call it sadness, i have such a feeling of disaster, sir, in italy, this is what i will call ethnocide against the ukrainian people, this began to work very actively in the 14th year and we saw how they closed ukrainian schools, how russia closed ukrainian schools, ukrainian cultural centers, ukrainian organizations, almost all organizations that were part of the organization of the world congress of ukrainians, uh, the russian authorities liquidated then uh, how did we they used to say that the sku was an unwanted organization and there were criminal cases against the leaders of our communities for their connections with the holy congress of ukrainians, this ethnocide is now

even getting worse because we know that this is genocide, and i call on all our ukrainians living in russia to be careful, this, this, putin's government will change , this terrorist , putin's government, and we will once again build a ukrainian world in russia, but it will take time and it is important that our people take care not to endanger themselves because we know many of those the leaders of the ukrainian communities in russia had to leave russia simply because there was a threat to their own lives. i understand that these people never even thought that there would be such a turn in their lives. they wanted to engage in culture there, school education, such simple things. you know very well that russia accepted to a certain extent that policy of sharovarshchyna. that is, you can

build a shevchenko monument because it is really ours. allow well, it's interesting that they actually cancel the very understanding of ukrainian identity, they think you're a criminal if you just think that it's some kind of separate identity and they don't hide it well, we don't have to we don't need it because we know that this happened during the soviet union, they wanted to destroy us to solve us during the holodomor of genocide 90 years ago and today they want to do it again as they fight against us so hard to destroy the ukrainian people in ukraine what can we hope they are doing in russia i want to talk to you about the situation with the church, and about the situation of the church both here and abroad, because we see absolutely incredible knowledge from the point of view of the canons in the situation when the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, to whose branches these

security service employees of ours are now coming, at the same time , from the first days of the war, it started unexpectedly actively missionary activity in western countries, the priests of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate come there, they talk with those people who left ukraine, and in fact it is also absolutely special work because they do not have to create any special parishes , they are not an independent church, in principle, these people should have come to those orthodox churches that are in these countries in the ecumenical patriarchate of these local orthodox churches, but they are there. and here is also the question of what these people by and large, they are, well, you can say your competitors from the point of view of narratives and work with the ukrainians who are today in various countries, well, this is in that part of the broader policy of the russian peace and the russian peace, but very actively works especially in europe and we

see it and hear from our communities that they are actively working either on the cultural level or on the field or on the religious level to attract ukrainians to the russian world and they do it very cunningly they start with conspiracies resources, we will teach you to speak german there, go to our slavic center, we will teach you for free, and this also includes the church, and i don't think that i, who was in me, wanted to hear that eh russian orthodox church eh abroad and in russia, there is this department of the kremlin and the fsb, and we see it as various priests of the russian orthodox church, even in canada itself, saying such things that, well, i would say that even

criminal that is, we see that the church is working and cultural organizations are working and we are not opposing it, we are building a ukrainian world, and it is important that we do not try to fight it, but we must create a real ukrainian world so that even russian-speaking ukrainians feel at home in ukrainian orthodox church but for this is about the church, and this is perhaps a little delicate issue, but we, for example , met with the blessed epiphany and said that we need to have the opportunity for orthodox christians or many more of them to come here so that they have spiritual care, because without this spiritual care maybe they will go to the russian orthodox church and we are trying to help the orthodox church of ukraine so that they can also be

broken by their believers in this world . from russian emigrant organizations to international ones that do not support those that would like to help ukraine in this situation, there were such contacts, it's just interesting, there were more than one , er, i still remember that in the 13th year, when er, we thought it was worth working with those communities and we very soon understood. i very soon understood that they are all, unfortunately, for one year. it was very interesting that the russian-speaking jewish organizations will be very pro-ukrainian, and that is, i wanted to ask if there is a difference. this is a difference and a big one. they see the difference, they are very careful about this, obviously, because they obviously do not want to harm the jewish community in russia, which is also under threat, but they

realize and know that this is russian propaganda, and i know that even some of them are the editors of russian-language newspapers in those countries and against them were even uh, if from uh, insults and uh, and even we see that there are criminal actions against them and even against our community. we hear very often that there uh someone flew the ukrainian flag on the car and someone has his glass in the car and we see it even in countries like canada, believers or not, this is problematic and that is why we support this call to take away visas and not give visas to russians, they should not feel free to walk around the world as their how, how, their people, they should replenish the genocide against ukraine, interesting

things, what are you telling me, what are the differences between russian organizations, let’s say, jewish organizations of people from the former soviet union, who, for sure, between these organizations of people from the former soviet union there is also a difference between the soviet union and the world jewish organizations. shouldn't the world jewish organizations with which you are already in contact be afraid of moscow? well, i think that those in moscow must be very careful, obviously the world congress of jews and all jewish organizations we are strongly supported around the world, we hear it, we feel it, and we even call on them to help us change israel's policy, so that weapons will appear, so that weapons will appear, yes , let's tell the world to the polish organization. this is an interesting moment of the fact that there have always been difficult relations between the world light congress of ukrainians, not the world polish organizations, video on the most historical ground on various issues, it has changed now you are

communicating, it has changed a lot, and we recently , right after the full-scale war, the invasion of russia, hmm, i created the coalition of central and eastern european communities, this is a world coalition, which also includes the congress, the polish congress, the croatian congress, the baltic countries , and we are building this world coalition, we see the bolshevik bloc of nations, once someone even proposed that we adopt this name from the new one , but it is important that these countries work together , together, and a very strong block of the united states and a large polish community that strongly supports us in canada, that is, relations have improved significantly, because i would say, well, even immediately after independence it will be difficult, even if i say that their policy changed a little when there were elections in poland uh when he appointed when president duda became he became

president but now i think president duda is a great patriot of ukraine he became and now strongly supports and their policy of the poles in the diaspora is very favorable to ukraine today, as well as other ethnic groups, even the hungarian community or the hungarian community, as we say, is favorable to the hungarian government, yes. and tell me about your relationship with the ukrainian government, they have changed since the war, is it possible that there is a need for consultation, is there any possibility of interaction? i would say that it is improving, where we are at every step . ministers in order to closely work on our, well, it is, it is a two-party advocacy, so that you can

hear what is most needed today, and the second is that there is, well, financial support for the whole of ukraine, and they are very appreciative, and i heard very much for us today and yesterday, and the day before yesterday, when we were on our way to this meeting and to the general staff, and also to the front line, to the combat position . in particular, with the ministry of foreign affairs where we are we work as partners at the global level and we understand where we need to focus the most attention, for example, when there was a question about ukraine's accession to the status of a candidate for the european union, we actively threw ourselves into it, we announced the pr companies, we, our communities, announced it at a meeting with key

officials, and that's it very good example someday we have to write some old how we could effectively cooperate to grasp this is what our next will be well most of the weapons e we heard what is needed and we are going can get it we will print it strongly er, the second will be this is an international criminal court, er, which needs to work hard on that, because we see that not all countries are in favor of this, to believe, saying they are a little afraid of this precedent, but it is, maybe, it is a little different story for the second time, but er i will say that there are many such constant challenges where we can strengthen these borders together with diplomats. and why are the fighters afraid of the international criminal court, which of themselves is where this or that country can uh-uh absolutely these are tools yes yes absolutely they are afraid of it because

well, she's not afraid of canada, because that's why she's a teacher. do you think there will be a time when a real ukrainian will occupy some kind of prominent position in the ukrainian state administration, like in the baltic countries, there in estonia, in latvia, in lithuania, in poland, yes? the same precedents in different countries that are moving towards democracy use the opportunities of the diaspora to create a real ukrainian world where we heard that we are one 65 million ukrainian people, we must create conditions for ukrainians to hear in ukraine regardless of where they were born. do they have a second citizenship, that they felt they were full-fledged ukrainians, and that is why we are working with the president to create legislation that will facilitate the return of

ukrainians, this includes dual citizenship on an equal basis, that is, one class of citizens regardless how do you take an oath to be a ukrainian and fill out all the requirements, such as not having the right not only to vote, but the right to the state pension service, the most important thing is the state service. we must call on our ukrainians abroad to come back to ukraine in order to rebuild ukraine and that is why this law is one of many examples, well, the law about elections must also be reformed and we feel that our voice is being heard and we must speed it up so that when we win again , our ukrainians abroad can immediately return and rebuild ukraine we will wait. thank you to the participants of our program today. pavlo grot was the president of the holy congress of ukrainians, who, together with other compatriots, promises to

return to rebuild ukraine after the victory in this brutal war. thank you for for participating in our program, thank you. congratulations, please give just a few minutes of your attention and i really hope that you will be able to help us voroshik. please look at the photo of this girl, her name is tanya troyanova. she is 11 years old and she has disappeared. we have been looking for tanya for more than six months, but no we are losing hope to find the girl and we believe that thanks to you it will be possible to do it. so, tanya disappeared in the spring, namely on may 8, unfortunately, we have little information about the girl and the circumstances of her disappearance, but it is known that she lived she is in the city of berdyansk, zaporizhzhia region, the city is currently occupied, and yet, despite the fact that

ukrainian atb is not broadcast there, i hope that at least on the internet the residents of berdyansk will be able to watch this program and maybe recognize tanya. it is also likely that there are communication problems in berdyansk at the moment and there are no ukrainian mobile operators there, so it is not excluded that the girl and her parents simply do not have the opportunity to notify about themselves . tanya is now in neoderdyan. perhaps she and her parents were forced to move to another place or even abroad. by the way, we know such stories when a child who disappeared during the occupation was wanted for a long time, and after de-occupation it was possible to find her, and it happened more than once that the parents of these children all this time, they simply could not report about themselves and their child, because there was simply no such opportunity in the occupied territory, so, again,

it is likely that tanya troyanova found herself in such a situation, no matter what we hope for the best and continue the search . so, once again, i ask you to look at the face of the girl tanya troyanova, 11 years old, she looks her age, has dark blond curly hair and dark eyes, if you know anything about tanya or where she may be, do not delay and report to hotline of the child tracing service, our number is 116,000 zeros from all mobile operators, calls are free, and you will also help us a lot if you share this video on social networks, because the more people learn about the search for trojan data, the more we will have more chances to find the girl. we are also looking for another girl, this is 15-year-old yulia kurbel, who disappeared in the luhansk region in the city of severodonetsk. yulia's friend turned to us for help. the girl did not want to talk on camera, but in a private

conversation she told some details that could be important in the search. so, it is known that when the war began, yulia made herself known from the first, but in march, when heavy shelling began in severodonetsk, the conversation with the girl was interrupted since then about her on sorry, there is no news. also, we know the exact address where yulia kurbel lived, it is severodonetsk street gagarina 117, and here is the actual photo of the house where yulia lived, and now i am appealing to all residents of occupied north donetsk, if you suddenly see this program, please come to gagarin's address if possible 117a and ask the residents of this building about 15-year-old yulia kurbel, whether she still lives there, or where and with whom she may be now. if you find out at least something about the fate of yulia kurbel, please contact us immediately on the free hotline services