and then we will have long-term support with its weapons and other things, and actually then we will have the opportunity to defend our independence in a strategic perspective, not only now, when russia is weak, because russia will definitely not change. i do not believe in democratic russia, but therefore, we have to be powerful, we have to be part of the euro-atlantic and trans-atlantic world, we are members of the senate, there can be no alternatives to nato, in fact, we can agree to a temporary strengthening of some kyiv contacts that they call, but it is definitely not should be substitutes. well, actually, that's why we have to work with the neighboring states, which are one of our most important allies and who should become our neighbors. we saw the big , big, big role of poland, well, of course, poland has always played such a role, but even the baltic states are small, the territory is not the size of a heart and the help they provide, in principle, i would say that

relations with the united states are extremely good now. i hope that next year when the presidential election is still not going to change anything fundamentally, it is very good that the mid-term elections that took place in november last year and in fact today is the third day today is the first day that the 118th congress started its session despite the fact that they entered the house of representatives and expelled those who did not they love ukraine and there is a group of trembists who voted against aid to ukraine and other things they are constantly shouting, including by the way, there is one congresswoman originally from ukraine. here they will definitely be to shout, to shout, to try to get into some kind of control, but by and large, this does not change the general approach of both parks. we have seen that this is primarily how the defense budget was voted, where a lot of money is laid for ukraine, and definitely those messages that

mean they are coming from the republican party in the chamber representatives of the festinati they are definitely in favor of ukraine they are not going to leave ukraine, this is extremely important we should not be involved in american politics and try to to support, because such intentions were at least public and small, it is absolutely wrong, we need the support of both parties, and in fact, of course, whoever sits in the white house. therefore, we should be outsiders to american domestic politics, but on the other hand, we are constantly present so that ukraine is not forgotten, well now i understand. this is not happening, but then when the hot phase ends, ukraine should be a priority, as at one time it was also the west, west germany, west berlin, how it was defended by all the forces of the free world. in this sense, ukraine should become the west

germany on the border with the stupid, aggressively non-national russia, oleksandr well, in two weeks, the nato military committee will meet to discuss the course of the war in ukraine, as well as the support of our state. and the problems that arose on the way to joining finland and sweden to nato, which still cannot become members of the alliance despite their desire, what are the consequences of the decision of the parliaments, what are the consequences of this nato military committee? well, for sweden, what about finland and for ukraine, or us let's get closer to the membership of the alliance for finland and sweden. first of all, i am not worried about finland's extremely powerful military power, let's say so, and in general the country is ready for russian aggression. they have no illusions that there will be a war with russia. and they are constantly preparing for this war. and by the way, this it should be instilled

in ukrainian society that this is not the last war with russia, it is certainly the bloodiest operation, but we must constantly prepare. and actually, our readiness will always be a deterrent factor for the katsapas. the only thing for sure is that it is fuel. well, i would say hungary's non-constructive position. well, we see that hungary, well, mr. orban was one of those whom he congratulated on the new year, eh, and actually he also congratulated mr. putin, that is, such an eloquent thing with mr. merdigan it is more difficult , because of course he solves his security issues, including with the jacket and the suspensions, and finland and sweden have lifted restrictions on the sale of weapons to turkey, so let's say so, formally, the ban existed and now they are solving the issue, actually, on certain the names of kursk activists who found refuge in these countries. i hope that something

will be resolved soon, taking into account the democracies and, in fact, let's say the traditions of these countries, that it cannot be like in russia they take hostages and then exchange someone there. that is, i do not believe that sweden will go like this in finland. but i think that this issue will be resolved. well, the most important thing is that for the time being, while they are not members of nato, security guarantees from the united states and britain are valid for these countries, they signed on the eve of the announcement of their intention to become nato members make such agreements, so even if russia now tries to do some stupid thing there, it will receive a consolidated response from the most powerful countries of the alliance. regarding ukraine, it is more difficult because you saw from the very beginning that nato adheres to the concept that we are not a party to the conflict with the russian federation, they avoid anything, and they do not provide us with assistance directly as the alliance and the nato member countries provide assistance to

them . does not go and therefore it will not change during this meeting, most likely, in addition to the question of membership, they will discuss the change in threats to the members of the alliance, how they have a distribution, dividing forces, of course they have questions , for example, extraordinary large aid is provided to ukraine, and of course that those formations with with projectiles or with javelins or with some kind of rockets, they are decreasing. without a word, in order to protect ourselves, we need to replenish them. well, nato cannot forbid ukraine to join the alliance because it will be a violation of the washington treaty, so of course they will constantly say that it is the will of the ukrainian people of the ukrainian state

and no one has the right to veto such a decision, but on the other hand, hope that the door will be opened for us by the end of this war, because the door is half-open or half-closed, i don't know, those are philosophical questions, and they definitely won't be opened until the end of the war. and whether ukraine will be able to join this alliance depends from the results of this war and from what form the russian federation will be in. if it is a country that will disintegrate . in a certain time, i don't know, there will be a few years, but they will not be happy, because the results of the war depend primarily on the results of the war . and all this depends on what is supported in us and will be supported, because the europeans, even europe is already in but what a danger it carries the russian federation will periodically come up with ideas, silly ideas, negotiations,

some compromises, and of course, this is absolutely unacceptable to us, and i really like that our western partners compared the phrase " just peace" and it is actually such a packaged formula for peace from president zelensky, there are 10 points, i can name them to reduce it to four, the first is respect for the un charter and other international law and other conventions and treaties, and this implies, first of all, the restoration of the territorial integrity of the priority of ukraine above all territories, including, first of all, crimea and the autonomous autonomous republic of crimea and the city of sevastopol. the second issue is the prosecution of criminals from the beets of the tankists to the fibro -russian peace. guarantee of security, well, for ukraine, it

can definitely be excluded membership of hnat and as an intermediate stage - this is strengthening us, this is help with weapons, training there with other things, in fact, this is a just peace. thank you, oleksandr khara expert on foreign and security policy defense strategy centers thank you for the interesting analysis and we already have a cyborg pompa head of the hungarian community of kyiv and kyiv region congratulations mr. tiber, you can hear us yes, congratulations glory to ukraine well , look, we talked with oleksandr and they mentioned viktor orbán, the prime minister of hungary, who is the only one of the leaders of the european union and nato well, i don't know the european ones , at least the members of nato, he congratulated uh i apologize to vladimir putin happy new year and volodymyr putin congratulated him as the head of the government of hungary on the new year and wished you all the best as a ukrainian of hungarian

hungarian origin. this fact saddened me. what is your attitude to such friendly and warm relations between vladimir putin and viktor orbán at the current historical moment? i declare on behalf of the hungarian community that what mr. orbán is doing, you are what his government is doing, mr. siarda. it is a shame and i am ashamed that hungary has such a prime minister, and i have repeatedly spoken about it on the live broadcast of the hungarian television in front of his rushers in front of the state secretary er viktor orbán that what you are doing is a total disgrace and a shame in relation to the ukrainian people, to ukrainians and to me too and to all hungarians around the world because this is a total shame and it is not only ukrainians will never

forgive you for this, of course they turned me on since then, i don't appear on organ channels and i do n't think i will, but the world of heaven is full of good people and we need to do our part , don't pay attention to mr. orban on his these are the methods because his methods are blackmail and intimidation. that's what he can do. he shepherded three million hungarians, not elites, but lumpens, who unanimously vote for him, and i also want to say that it's very bad that his ideology, his information policy affects many of hungarians in zakarpattia oblast, first of all, to the so-called in quotation marks , the ukrainian party of hungarians, the kmks,

who support it, which is categorically against, once again i say against the policy that is being carried out, which is total blackmail and intimidation, mr. body, but well, in the end there is no there is no alternative to modern hungary, well , at least ukrainian analysts say that the political alternative of the leader who you contrasted your values ​​with european values ​​and humanistic values ​​in these totalitarian values ​​of orbán does not yet exist at the current moment, why yes? of this political landscape in hungary and the social one, well, what you say about this is the nuclear electorate of orbán, but as i understand it, other electorates are not against the fact that this lump is not too happy to rule at least in

in the hands of the government and represented the position and manifestation of the will of the entire hungarian society, which is definitely heterogeneous and definitely not everyone there supports with both hands the orb's policy on this isolationist one. i would say that in terms of european values, it is an anti -european value. well, i would say, well, this is my personal opinion please well, you are right in many respects, the only thing i would like to point out is that it is not quite true regarding the lack of an alternative , there are two ways, there is an organic hungary and there is a non-organic hungary, unfortunately, many intelligent active people called hungary and for politics and for the fact that gorba was unable to build a normal economic society today hungary is the poorest country in europe in all of europe they have lower earnings even than in romania in relation to the

alternative e alternative is being formed there are young ambitious people e e movement of the moment and others who are constantly categorically against of that policy, especially the attitude from ukraine, they came in november just during the rashin rocket attacks and renewed their dissatisfaction with orban's policy, and even today they and in the european parliament the representatives are categorically against the body and i would like to note that hungary is divided and i do not know only one fact, budapest , where the intelligentsia, the culture of the hungarian nation is concentrated, is categorically against orn from 18 electoral districts . budapestization

of orban sooner or later, it is better that it be uh, the sooner the memory is replaced, well, the war will end sooner or later, and it will obviously end with the victory of good over evil with the light of light in the darkness or after this victory, official budapest, the official government of hungary will be able to stand in the way of ukrainian progress on the way to nato and the european union, what should be done to neutralize the anti-ukrainian position, sometimes paid for at the expense of russian money, paid for, please learn one more fact . those 199 people 's deputies, according to the data of the opposition party's opposition portal 141, that is, you think that 2/3

of them are pro-kremlin politicians and who speak about the kremlin's narratives openly or deliberately, that's why i believe that the most important thing is that hungary, the modern hungarian government, should not interfere with the movement of people, it is necessary to have a strong information policy, against these narratives, against the modern bodies, which narratives, yes , the same narratives they again raise the issue of the protection of national minorities, we adopted a law of ukraine that fully complies with the framework convention of the european union and the charter of national minorities, e-e, e-e, e-e, this law is signed by the president and fully complies with first, i say that it corresponds to everything that is necessary to respond to the protection and development of

national minorities in ukraine, and secondly, i think it is very important that it is necessary to cooperate very closely with other european countries that put orban in his place and his clique in the first place it's more like the luntik four, not the four, but the three, because hungary, i think it's not the visegrad four, and in poland, the czech republic, which presides over the european union and also puts orbán very clearly in his place, cooperates very closely in poland. strong, large european countries, what are we, returning to the hungarian community in ukraine, what are the main challenges and tasks facing ukrainian hungarians? here, in fact, already there in the 12th month of the russian-ukrainian war, please tell us about your activities, well, look, of course, the biggest big the challenge is the war, the

serashist aggression, to date, more than 10 hungarians have already died, gave their lives defending ukraine in different corners, about against the rashists, of course, this is the main challenge, i think if we win a we have to win, everything will be fine, the hungarian community, we are citizens of ukraine, we were, are, and will be responsible citizens of ukraine, ukrainians, yes, i am also hungarian by origin, and my native language is ukrainian, but of course i speak it at the appropriate level and in the ukrainian language and i believe that ukrainian culture is as close to me as hungarian. i think this should be spread. i do not have to spread this to the

hungarian community. perfect knowledge of ukrainian culture and the ukrainian language is essential without this. do not do anything. by the way, no wants to recognize the same certificate, the same orban is going like the orban rushers to transcarpathia, that's why i think it's very , very important. i hope that you, as a professional tv channel, as a highly professional journalist, can also help a lot in to this, so that ukraine is united, it is united, and of course, so that we win. thank you, even i would say that ukraine and hungary will be reliable partners in the future, well, after the change of official power in budapest, not only in the european union, but also by nato. since we are neighbors, we are simply obliged to close

cooperation, we are doomed to a close partnership within the framework of a single european family. interesting information from mykhailo apostol, a former adviser to the minister of internal affairs from earlier times, what he wrote on facebook literally half an hour ago, he wrote the following mr. mykhailo soroka on the tail brought a very interesting the information is still being checked, ex -yukos co-owner leonid nevzlin, who lives in israel, was sentenced in absentia in russia to life imprisonment, but at the same time he maintained ties with business and political circles in moscow, interesting things are reported about the situation behind the bars. well, firstly, lavrov has a massive heart attack the second thing is that only 20 generals are in intensive care with a massive heart attack

and are under house arrest. well, let's translate this information about lavrov and what about him and about these 20 generals, well, it's obvious that a similar reaction may be to the recent successes of the ukrainian army in makiivka, as well as in kherson oblast, in the town we talked about, as it is called chulakivka or chulakivka, there, too, the day before, up to 500 russian occupiers were destroyed, they lost more than five killed and wounded in makiivka hundreds were destroyed according to different estimates in one of the dormitories of one of the ptu number 19 in the city of makiivka, well, now we are waiting for the appearance on our air of denys marchuk, the deputy chairman of the all-ukrainian agrarian council, mr. denys i congratulate you. i congratulate you

. i already understand the tasks facing the ukrainian agrarian council in this new year. it's just that the heat became very warm yesterday and today. and somehow it's spring and right away. for some reason, i thought about the start of spring field work. maybe a little early, but definitely agrarians they are thinking about this, what are the main challenges and tasks now, please, on the eve of the new world, they are absolutely right, and in agriculture, as well as in politics, the same elections are held. they are preparing for others, the same in agriculture, they passed one sowing campaign autumn and they begin to actively prepare for the spring sowing of the company of the 23rd year, and there are difficulties, yes, we understand that among the key difficulties with which preparations for spring work are made - this is the lack of normal financial conditions, that is, the financial resources are too low, considering that the prices in the middle of ukraine there is a market, not a market, more precisely, all other services are quite marketable, and

logistics, which sometimes takes under 80% of the cost of the products you export, all this is usually reflected in the preparation as well the usual a-a influence that today shapes the preparation of these problems with electronics is meant to connect to power systems because these attacks lead to the same exclusions as in the homes of our everyday consumers and for businesses and when it is necessary again today to save and to prepare posts there when the material is also reflected in the financial condition of agricultural producers, that is why we are actually preparing for these problems, choosing opportunities to cooperate, because in these conditions alone it will be very difficult to do business there. well, of course, such a key urgent problem is the lack of good physical resources due to the lack of physical resources and not having the financial

means to fully provide for them because they are very expensive, and in the report we will see what needs to be contributed no more than 40 and there, up to 50% of the field will usually be reflected in the amount of harvest that we will get already from the spring crops . i read the news today. here is the deputy chief of the kharkiv military on the eve of the new year, yevgen ivanov spoke with the leadership of the ministry of food and agriculture and the ministry of defense and stated that, not only in kharkiv oblast, there are 500,000 hectares, 500,000 and a half million hectares of fields contaminated with explosive objects, and it is very important that we raise the issue of demining the territory now, because all measures if possible, seasonal work should be carried out first, said this ukrainian official,

how much of a problem is it now on the eve of the start of a new new sowing of pollution territories kharkiv region sumy chernihiv region kherson region zaporizhzhia donbass donetsk region luhansk e.e. how do you think it can influence the speed of demining to increase e.e. well the amount of territory that will be used by ukrainian farmers, please i thank you for raising this topic because it one of the key issues that we are dealing with at the beginning of 2023. and we have now created in ukraine an association of temporarily occupied territories and liberated territories, and among the important issues that they should deal with this will be a question demining to date is about 135,000 m², e-e square kilometers is in such a state. as you explained, that is, it is demining or destroyed fields, and in fact, this is in addition to the fact that we are losing a significant part of those cultivated areas that could be prepared

and that could be to sow with which it would be possible to ensure not only food security inside the country, but also to guarantee exports, therefore , today the number one issue is to find additional funding for funding to support the already liberated territories how do you noted kharkiv oblast, kherson oblast, parts of donetsk, luhansk, sumy , and kyiv oblasts , because demining continues in kyiv oblast as well, because when the enemy troops were retreating, they also left behind a rather large amount of this military waste, which needs to be disposed of yes, today we need funds , why do we need to rest in order to increase the number of training personnel who could clear mines ? they are doing everything they can and we are very grateful to them for that, because they are risking their lives and helping the civilian population

by demining school kindergartens there and helping the producers working in the fields and today it is very important to find additional financial resources so that the number of people who could to learn, in addition, to involve international e programs, projects that made it possible to involve foreign experts, such as humanitarian sites for demining, and which can also be involved in ukraine. negotiations in order to leave these places and in this way at least approximate the possibility of increasing the amount of area that could be sown, but to say that this will happen 100%, unfortunately, it is not possible because despite the active work, we remember the situation since 2014, and what even after the beginning of the second wave of the war in ukraine since february 24, we have donetsk luhansk regions that have found a significant

number of fields that have not yet been demined since 2014, that is, you understand how much hard work it is and the work that requires a lot large funds and very large efforts of human personnel, in particular, i will give an example in order to, well, in terms of finances, in order to demine today, in fact, one hectare of land is the cost of the cost of this one hectare of land . that is, it costs on average 40 50,000 uah. that is, it is very expensive and accordingly in such conditions, you yourself understand that there is no perspective to do business in these territories because, first of all, there are no financial resources. these are territories that have suffered such a severe blow to their resources. they say, where to get fresh funds, therefore, in these conditions, there is very high hope. and on the international foundation, which will be able to form a certain support fund for the liberated territories, the demining itself will become, well, the number

one issue. ukraine will support not only african countries but also ukrainian farmers at the current moment . this is very important for ukraine. what will happen in the new 23rd year ? you have one and a half minutes with this program, please. actually, this program has been launched. president, in november, we are talking about the fact that at the expense of our foreign partners, who provide financing for the purchase of grain from the territory of ukraine from ukrainian farmers, so that this grain goes directly to the territory of poor countries, in particular, we are talking about african countries. three such ships have already left tenders for the purchase of 165,000 tons of grain from ukrainian producers were announced today, accordingly, these funds will go to the economy of ukraine and will be sent to those regions that need them in the plans, let me remind you, there is a position that

no less than 60 ships should be sent, including up to the next few months. they will be purchased from them will be purchased later, uh, material things for the implementation of the registered company. agrarians for the grain that they sell as part of various exports that take place within the grain corridor will also increase, because today the price in ukraine and the price of this grain already there in the mediterranean sea differ many times in connection with this military danger sooner it will pass and then the price for ukrainian arers in their products will increase immediately