i absolutely agree and i know that today, as an expert network a-a that works on the topic of crimea and from the crimean platform, and the p- platform is working out such mechanisms now, and i know that on the basis of the representative of the president of ukraine in crimea, too in a coalition with other places and authorities and civil society , this mechanism is being worked out, because we all absolutely agree that our residents on the peninsula should understand ukraine's action plan regarding the de-occupation in iceland regarding collaborators and regarding the occupiers and so on immediately i think that here are very clear signals of the colonizers who came to the crimea in 1954. they should not understand that they should return to their own and how they speak, and on the other hand, these are the occupiers, who

will also bear criminal responsibility for this for crimes committed in the occupied territories, including in crimea. thank you, alima , for your work and for participating in the live broadcast of the espresso tv channel. on the part of our intelligence, in particular, it is, so to speak , in pursuit of the conversation about crimea, for the occupiers, i am trying to preserve the so-called land corridor to crimea, and new military units are being drawn to the north of the temporarily occupied peninsula, the representative of the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine andriy chernyak said about this in a comment to ukrinform. in order to preserve the land corridor to the north of crimea, the invaders are raising new military units. they also continue to build defense structures, as in the north of the temporarily occupied peninsula and over the temporarily occupied part of the

kherson region, they will lose, that is why they create defensive structures where they can, realizing that they will have to conduct combat operations on these borders. according to eyewitnesses, explosions of ammunition can also be heard. there is no information about the number of victims. a military man, a military town, supposedly there was a storage of weapons of one of the units, allegedly they managed to evacuate the weapons, but the ammunition is no, it actually shoots . there is simply no concrete information, there is no understanding of what could have happened in belgorod region,

we will try to find out in the first day to say goodbye to the deceased ex pope benedict, whose body is in st. peter's cathedral, 65,000 people came, the line formed before nine o'clock in the morning when the basilica was opened for visitors, before admission, visitors are checked in line metal detectors were among the first to say goodbye to the pontiff, italian president sergio materella and prime minister george melani. let us remind you that benedict the 16th died on the last day of the 22nd year. the funeral will take place on thursday , january 5, in accordance with the wishes of the late benedict. he will be more discreet than usual . delegations will arrive only from italy and from

benedict 's native germany. let's move on to the topic of three ukrainians and how they change during the entire great war, according to sociologists, the vast majority of ukrainians do not agree that in order to achieve peace as soon as possible and stop shelling, the armed struggle against the russian federation should be stopped. anton hrushevskyi, deputy director of the kyiv international institute of sociology we are in touch with mr. anton, congratulations and glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes well, as far as we understand the russian plan for nightmares and demoralization of our population, sociology has failed quite obstinate discipline and this is an extreme survey of the mood of our fellow citizens shows that russian efforts in one way or another to incline a part of our population to some kind

of, i don’t know, bad scenarios have all been defeated. what worked in your opinion and, in general, what are the most important markers that you determined, in fact, there are different markers. but in this case, we single out one specific question, whether in general ukrainians are ready to exchange some ukrainian territories and give them up in order to end the war as soon as possible and ukraine has definitely preserved its independence. that is, it is not just something negative, but certain. such a positive is a pleasant pill of preserving independence, ending the war as soon as possible, but we see that only 8% of them were the same in september. on the other hand, 85% believe that under no circumstances should ukraine give up its territories even if at the same time the military resistance will be prolonged, the opponents, you correctly said that the main conclusion is that the missile tarot, which russia used between september and december, to scare the ukrainians, to scare them with the cold, turning off

of electricity it did not work it did not work either at the level of ukraine in general or if you show at the level of individual ukrainian regions and in the south and in the east and in the west and in the center in the north, the absolute majority of ukrainians believe that ukraine should continue to fight, the most, let's say between may and in september, even in the east of ukraine, the share of those who are against any territorial concessions of russia will grow, answering the question why is this happening in the first place ? observers, and not only for russia, that ukraine will stay there not for 3-4 weeks, but for months and even goes into a counteroffensive was a certain surprise for them. in the 90s , the ukrainian uprising was somehow unexpected and the ukrainian nation was somewhat unexpected, so the ukrainian nation continues to demonstrate its unexpectedness in the 2010s and 20s.

of the people and in fact ukrainians can quarrel with each other, they may not like this or that government, they may protest, but we feel that we are a part of ukraine, a part of the ukrainian civil nation that is fighting for its identity, for its survival, and the key answer is that this war is not just a war there for a certain territory or for certain people, this is an existential war of ukraine for its survival of ukrainians for their survival after all these atrocities and crimes after those merciless shellings that destroy civil infrastructure there are ordinary citizens, all ukrainians , kharkivians, khersonians, odessans, lvivians, kyivans , everyone understands that this is a war and there is a war for survival. this may be connected, perhaps, to the fact that uh, how

representative can it be in general, taking into account the fact that a large number of people from these territories became forced migrants, as in the territory of our country, they left for the border, when we talk about the east, we are talking about all residents, including those who moved to their regions, that is, here the region is defined by where a person warmed up until february 24, but in fact you understand until february, before the full-scale invasion, precisely to the doctor of the east and the south to the smallest extent they considered it real that russia would invade, that is, to our questions: do you think this is likely? the majority said no, they do not believe that russia would do such a thing; among them, half even treated russia a little more well, half had friends and relatives that is, it was people who were loyal to ukraine - these are ukrainian patriots, but who at the same time looked warmly enough towards russia then on february 24 - this is the biggest silk for the residents of these regions and the destruction that we see the

most is the east, the east is meant here kharkiv the luhansk donetsk region is experiencing the most merciless destruction and a resident of kharkiv understands that a rocket has landed in a residential complex of civil infrastructure, the teachers of kramatorsk understand this, it is the residents of the slums, residents of other cities, and for them all this russian lies are becoming the most obvious, residents of kherson see it, dnipro , zaporizhzhia, odessa, and that is why these citizens who previously started in our country as such a base of pro-russian parties, for them, these are finally torn masks and russia has simply committed such, well, you can say betrayal and not just russian leadership, because in reality the russian leadership, even in the east and in the south of ukraine, before the invasion, the absolute majority had a skeptical negative attitude, but the absolute majority from the liquid east treated ordinary russians well, it was believed that putin was bad the leadership of kremen is bad, but ordinary russians are, let's say, brotherly people, there are close people, neighbors, friends, relatives, but we

see that they do not protest, in particular, these are not protests . it's the feeling of such betrayal that motivates people to understand that you can't make concessions to these people, they've proven that they just beat us and that's why we have to defend ourselves and fight for ourselves p anton but the end of the peace movement in ukraine he it is obviously about a worldview concept and so on. and so on. but will it be possible to rebuild the consciousness of our citizens about the need to join the euro-atlantic community as soon as possible? we remember that at one time russian propaganda actively fueled anti-nato sentiments, particularly in the south and east of our country. what is the current situation with by supporting ukraine's accession to nato and, of course, to the european union, russia did what ukraine had to go through for several

generations: regional differences in geopolitical orientations were actually overcome of ukrainians at the beginning of february, the south and the east. you are right, for the most part, they were against ukraine's accession to nato. now, the absolute majority of residents of the late east, to a slightly lesser extent than in the west or in kyiv, but also the absolute majority support ukraine's accession to nato, that is, we are talking about at least 70-80 % even in these regions in the west and in the center, the exit indicator is clear, and in all regions the absolute majority of 70-90% support ukraine’s entry into the eu, that is, if earlier this issue was speculated and it was shown that there are special regions with with a special point of view. at present, the absolute majority of every region of ukraine sees ukraine as a member of both the eu and nato, and again because the south and the east have come to understand that what russia is doing is a lie, that in fact all this slander is too much. it is not entirely true that nato, on the contrary, is helping nato countries help ukraine with ukraine after the aggression, that is why

ukraine has to ensure its security and so much in this way, by the way, the truth is that we still have a couple of percent who see ukraine in odkb, and this is another time, by the way. execute yes, who are these people, but we answer that this is, by the way, a sign of the democracy of ukraine, that in fact we should understand that ukraine is open to discussion and even to such strange views as at this moment. but the respondents speak honestly about this, and this shows that things, unlike in russia, we do not have censorship, by the way, in polls, we should not formulate in a special way war, operation or any other some things, we use all this, we can use absolutely any wording, we listen to people's opinions and we see a certain such honest communication, that is why the editions are really representative. and really at this stage, unfortunately, such tragic conditions, but ukrainian society in general, and in the regional selection and age dimension, and men and women demonstrate the consolidation that is necessary at this moment. well, finally, we wanted

i would like to ask you about the attitude towards the ukrainian orthodox church connected with moscow, yes, it's an interesting question. just last week, we published some results. published six months ago, as of the summer, a little more than 70% of ukrainians consider themselves orthodox and among them, when we specify which church you identify yourself with , more than 50% consider themselves to belong to the orthodox church of ukraine of the patriarchate of constantinople, and only 4% belong to the orthodox the churches of the moscow patriarchate are now making it public, showing the results of our last week's survey, which concerns what should be the policy of the authorities regarding the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate and in fact, 78% believe that the government should intervene in the activities of this church , taking into account these circumstances, how it behaves , including 54%, that is, more than half

are in favor of a complete ban on that church, another 24%. this is a partial ban as much as the establishment of supervision over the activities of this church. and by the way, only 12% of ukrainians believe that it is not necessary to interfere in the activities of the church. of course, this is such a sensitive issue of interaction between the state and the church, but as we noted in the comments, unfortunately, moscow church in ukraine during the invasion in addition to such light statements of condemnation , she practically did not demonstrate anything to prove that this is really the ukrainian church, that it breaks ties with russia, that it really supports ukraine and the leadership, the middle echelon, the lower echelon, is really on the side of the ukrainian people and helps in the resistance, that is, nothing was done to convince ukrainians to return and the recent searches of the security service of ukraine by another service of god of ukraine show that there are, unfortunately, many reasons that this is not just a stereotype of this church as pro-russian and he let's start based on a lot of evidence

. thank you, mr. anton, for this extremely interesting conversation with sociologist anton hrushevskyi , deputy director of kim miss, who worked live now at 3:3 p.m. thursday, together with khrestina janskyi, we inform you of the most important things and with antin burkovskyi, of course , together with our dear guests who appear with us online today, by the way, not only online guests, but also on the air, we expect an interesting speaker to be right next to us live . well, for now, let's return to the discussion of the military situation in our country after all, it is important to understand how psychologically it hit russian society, if you can call it that what happened in makiivka literally on new year's eve, although, to be honest, i don't quite understand why they were so attached to makiivka, because there are precedents of successful

training of the defense forces due to the concentration of the russian invaders on our land in the occupied territories, let's remember the same chuvakivka literally in the kherson region the other day well, of course, here we are talking about the number of dead russian federation the ministry of defense of russia announces the death of 63 occupiers. how true is this? at the moment, we can only guess at different numbers. we may also be talking about several courts of occupiers killed on our land. express , we hope that mr. valery will join us now. valery ryabykh well, for now, this is the information: on sunday, january 1, in the area of ​​captured melitopol, zaporizhzhia region, the russian occupier stole a ural truck

this is reported by local authorities, the transfer occurred at a checkpoint near the settlement of yakimivka, a russian soldier armed with a kalashnikov assault rifle abducted her and drove it towards melitopol in kozov, the truck contained ammunition, the publication writes, the police and the russian military are already engaged in the search for the occupier, it is not known whether it was possible to detain the fugitive well, we will also remind you that if we are talking about the zaporizhzhia region and the melitopol district, on the morning of january 2, there was an explosion at the location of the occupying forces between the villages of myrnyi and northern melitopol district after that , the occupiers began to panic on the streets, we could hear the goal-techniques somewhere from here we will definitely start well, of course, makiyivka is now in touch with us valery ryabikh representative of the group of analysts defenses express glory to ukraine p valeriy congratulations to the heroes glory to you greetings dear lead greetings to all our tv viewers, mr.

valery, yes, a new year, old problems, in particular, it is about russian aggression, but a certain informative highlight was an extremely powerful explosion in makiivka, where, as far as we understand, more than one hundred people died russian interventionists on the other side, the russian general staff is trying to reduce the number of losses from the russian side. well, accordingly, we would ask you to explain this extremely interesting informational and important case . -e has emerged lately a-a a-a it should be said that this is already quite a trend and it has become an instigation of the level of destruction of the occupiers on the territory of ukraine and it is connected

with the increase in the capabilities of our troops to destroy well, accordingly, it could not not to give in to what the enemy wants, let's say, to saturate our line, so we, the so -called eh, from mobilized in large numbers for the enemy, this eh, let's say this, this plan has two eh, two sides, firstly , the principle and the enemy allegedly wants to strengthen their capabilities due to er saturation with this larger number of people, but er, what to do with them when ukraine's capabilities to destroy them are growing, they still haven't understood there, and just by the way, well, this is very familiar, because in

essence the matter is immediately eh exposes this problem to our enemy and shows that in principle, they are following the wrong path, trying to use, let's say, such an extensive method of increasing their own capabilities against the background of increasing our efficiency in our and our capabilities to dispose of the enemy yes, mr. valery look well, the enemy called the number 63 people died. yes, the information from our side differs by an order of magnitude, so that at least four hundred. various propagandists, so to speak, say that

they were ignited by e-e through a cluster of mobile phones. this is one of the simpler versions, which may be because, in principle, it can be done remotely using e-e, let's say, appropriate means of electronic intelligence. however, it should not be excluded of course and also information reaching our military in other ways because there are still enough people in these territories who still expect ukraine to return and, accordingly, the occupiers are in a rather aggressive environment, and by the way, the enemy was forced to recognize these losses, i understood that they were reduced against the background of, let's say

, the reaction of society and the so-called military bloggers and, in general, those who are involved in this in including there and the family, they couldn’t help but answer, and by the way, for example, according to the information, there was a similar explosion in the miner’s house, well, as a matter of fact, there is little information in the russian networks at the moment. cotton in the south, but it should be noted that , for example, according to the data of the ukrainian e-e, the last month of december became the most productive for e-e such rightful occupiers and more than 17,000 were destroyed, and it is noted that in the last three months, e-e september , october e in october, november and december , 50% of the occupiers were destroyed compared to those that

were destroyed in the previous 7 months. this is how we see a jump in efficiency in this case, and i think that efficiency will increase even more with the transfer to ukraine. of the so-called enternaal feel a filly tactical data systems er which was announced by the united states and this er system is an automated artillery fire control system which er is included with him-sign and in essence is a single system of nato and is coordinated with those control systems and e-e fire e that e is now used on all artillery systems that we received from partners and can be tied well, let's say a single such e intelligence chain of e decision-making e e response and e e e and essentially

- this, against the background of extensive efforts to satiate the troops, significantly strengthens our ability to quickly identify and destroy them, and with high-precision ammunition, mr. valery cannot help but ask this question yesterday on the territory of the crimean peninsula and explosions were heard in the sky above it, official information that e is provided by the occupation administration, this is the work of air defense, but just now messages are coming from the occupied janka - this is the northern part of crimea, there is an airfield there, and there is such a significant concentration of the russian military on what do you think the air defense of the occupiers in crimea is aimed at now and what is the point of knowing exactly how it works from where it

works on some unidentified objects in the crimean sky why is it important a-a well uh we see that the enemy stands up less and less comfortably in the temporarily occupied territories of ukraine. and of course, this is precisely the disparity that the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine talked about in her program article recently. for striking er in the depth of the enemy's territory both in the er temporarily occupied territories of ukraine and er in the depth of the state of the aggressor, let's say so, on objects that are included in the system of planning and implementation of these

terrorist attacks that we have seen recently from the aggressor on the territory of ukraine on the peaceful cities of ukraine, and this could be, let's say, some new means that are also in the form of unmanned aircraft systems or i do not exclude that it is possible and some new ones the same e cruise missiles that can be , let's say, are at the stage of e-e e-e tests e-e because in fact the cycles of e-e proof of those means that were presented to the canons e-e of this large-scale aggression can just to be exhausted and on the way there may be a series of new ukrainian means already

proven from the use of components obtained from partners and which, let's say, can significantly strengthen us next year, and we need to know what this is because in order to understand that the enemy is not os- will not remain punished, and this is the main condition for ending this war, because everything that was going on for a certain time during the past year was also a scenario of impunity against the background of impunity, this large-scale aggression against the background of impunity was unleashed, it continued, and now we are in the period of the onset of punishment and essentially reaching the consciousness of the aggressor. well, the population of this country, which i understand that our gunners are quite skillfully trying to reach their conscience, and we understand in

what way it comes from the other side information from various sources is in particular about the public sphere that the enemy is preparing for a new wave and i do not know of a possible new offensive or additional deployment or opening of some additional areas of the front. well, it should be noted that at the moment the enemy is completing the type of training of those mobilized who, let's say, were sent to eh training eh part of them immediately got to the front and immediately there were disturbances in particular in the territory of the donetsk region and the most hot spots eh but it should be noted that the enemy is currently facing a very important task is the substantial strengthening of the active line of the front and, let's say, the

confrontation with the great threats from the armed forces of ukraine, the breakthrough, first of all, of the southern flank and the development of the offensive in the direction of melitopol and the enemy understands all the threats because in essence this direction is an even bigger rubber than er and the territory not of the kherson oblast er on the western bank of the dnipro river that it left er and also still the fulfillment of those tasks that have already become so a political e-e socio-political trap for the russian language of the leadership and the russian military, this is the solution to the so-called task of the further capture of the territory of the donetsk region, so, in principle, the concentration of forces on some other directions in a

really threatening scale, at the moment, in the coming weeks, at least, there is nothing the same should not be ruled out so that the enemy will try let's say to do similar actions and try to somehow change the trends however, the experts do not yet see great prospects for this so that the enemy can change the strategic situation on the front thank you valery for always high-quality and interesting analytics valery ryabykh military expert yes editor of the dfs express website well and a representative of the well-known e-e expert group so let's remember the word you and ryna koval will now tell us what's new in ukraine and the world literally for the last hour iryna thank you colleagues the fact that shulzhenko is working at the ppp in the belgorod region is burning