so far, we do not see such intentions openly, but we are preparing for them because the most attractive way to end the war for russia is to take the capital, overthrow our government , set up its own puppet government in order to end the war on its own terms. therefore, we have no right to reject this issue and we all we are doing this to prevent such a scenario. have you heard this statement about a possible re-offensive of the russians on kyiv from the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, general zaluzhnyi? is it correct? i understand that such statements are made. based on the assumption that for russians, kyiv has a certain symbolic meaning and therefore it can happen again, first of all, that such an issue is possible, we are considering it, and we must be ready for it, and they must understand that we are ready for the development of the scenario and are ready to meet and to stop

possible new attacks of the enemy on the borders, therefore , this issue was raised to his commanders in order for the public to understand that a different development of the situation is possible, but the armed forces are doing everything to prevent him from understanding the society and, apparently, our western partners, because it was said in an interview with a foreign publication, but you say that the russians do not have enough power and means to carry out a second attack on kyiv, but we remember how it was then at the beginning of 2022, when there were also many not only military observers, but also the political and military leadership said that the russians did not have enough forces to launch a massive offensive, or could it be that now we will

step on the same rake? first of all, no one thought that there would be a full-scale aggression, well, first of all, we live in the xxi century in a civilized village in the center of europe and allow the return of that period of the second world war when one country tries to destroy a much smaller one without any basis for this without any pills well, it looked wild in the 21st century, but unfortunately it happened again and the attack on kyiv was first of all an attack in the plans of russia, this is a sudden attack with a quick movement, a quick capture of the relevant objects, this is in the first place turn the government quarter by the change of the government set by its puppet leaders in order to end the existence of ukraine as a

european country, therefore they did not count on a strong opponent, they did not count on being met by the movement, there was a quick capture of the attempt to capture the airfields, speed and when they were met, they were met with dignity, they were met first of all by the 72nd brigade then the patrol thematic groups from the fourth center or the 9th center, the tactical group of the artillery of the girls' training center , also pulled up, a unit that was really able to stop to meet and in the end i was still defeated that the enemy was forced to transfer forces and means to another direction because in the east they were also met and they suffered such losses that they could not conduct combat operations in several directions. therefore,

they may have been forced to to concentrate on one of the directions, they chose the east, and since they had no chance for kyiv, they were the remnants of those units that remained because the losses were high, some companies lost up to 30% of their personnel after the interception, so this struggle for this direction gave the opportunity to liberate the kyiv region to show that the second army of the world is not so second, and the colossus is first of all and elena and the game can be beaten after that, and the foreign partners turned their faces to us when it became clear that we can worthily oppose such an army, he cannot only if we can resist, we can win, you said that for this hypothetical re-offensive on kyiv, the russians need to transfer additional forces and resources to belarus, probably

mainly how quickly can this happen , i.e. will we have time to regroup prepare, and here we are talking not only about the military, but also about civilians. also, we are constantly monitoring the entire movement of units of the russian army from the training grounds, new points, new regional deployments, so i think we will have time to notify the population about a possible option for the development of actions, in addition to this, we accordingly created groups on the border with belarus, which is ready to meet the enemy in a dignified manner, so kyiv region is quite powerful, they have prepared for a possible new offensive, several districts are wild, so districts and some borders around the total length of kyiv is about a thousand

kilometers, where a powerful defense system has been created on the basis of professionally equipped positions of long-term defense structures, and it will be impossible to cross the entire border with belarus so easily. it is a solid wasteland, a solid minefield , which also requires great effort in order to pass, moreover, it is planned for them artillery lights, the work of heavy sniper groups to mobile fire groups, therefore, in principle, we do not plan to let it pass beyond the border. that is why i wanted to clarify with you when you are now talking about how ready the north of kyiv region is i am referring to the residents of buchi, guest house irpen , it is obvious that these people are now in the background of these conversations , they are alarmed again because they saw the horrors

of this war from your words. they mentioned the 72nd brigade, now the 72nd brigade is concentrated in the east, if i am not confusing anything, there are also questions about the terror defense units. the same kyiv terror defense is also partially now involved in hostilities in other directions. is it enough in you personnel in order to have someone to defend kyiv and the kyiv region. at the moment, we have enough of our own means instead of the 72nd brigade, another brigade is constantly trying to guarantee the unit as much as possible so that the unit is a military unit that has been in the zone of direct action, it has rested, brought itself to a suitable combat condition, and now another brigade that is ready to respond to threats is located in

kyiv region, a combat brigade that has a lot of experience in actions in addition to this the social defense unit is also undergoing combat operations in stages, because it is possible to be sure that this unit can do this task only when it comes to the war, the combat operations will take place then already. it is difficult to set certain tasks, you are not sure how people will perceive the first shelling, the first loss, and if the body has already passed, then you can say that it is performing the task, therefore everything is controlled in the kyiv region, we are excellent we understand the threats that are facing us and we have several options for the action of the wormwood and we are constantly practicing these options, people are

constantly training, our main advantage is the knowledge of the area, the preparation of this area and, first of all, these people who protect their homes, who should retreat to where do you allow e- is the possibility of what will be needed, for example, for recruitment into the defense forces or additional mobilization, everything depends on the further actions of the aggressor, if there is a re-mobilization on the part of russia and additional forces, the means have been allocated by us detection, we will also recruit personnel until those measures that are currently planned for the creation of new corps of new brigades, in our opinion, should be sufficient for conducting appropriate actions, but everything depends, again, i say on the actions of the aggressor, you said who is the quality of the personnel of the russian yes which hypothetically could probably be used in the

second attack on kyiv, why i ask because uh, at the beginning of a full-scale invasion, and more precisely, after the russians withdrew from these positions, uh, many western observers drew attention to the fact that in the most prepared units of the russian troops took part in this offensive, maybe you can even say the elite units of the russian troops , er, who could it be this time, if you yourself mentioned what losses they suffered, you know. the turn is the civilization of the people, but i , taking into account all the induction emissions, they are preparing and preparing a very powerful one, so we expect to meet the enemy, who will also have great potential, other than what they have as such interest in conducting combat operations because they

are going to the current territory, it is not clear what ideals this is, people do not have any other motivation as such, but despite this, it will soon be a year, so many are left as new new waves of mobilized are again going to the territory of ukraine and are again trying to solve the issue of russian of peace with the help of weapons and their human resource is very large. so, we have a lot of work, what do you allow such a development of the situation that this time, if of course it happens, the russians will use some a completely different tactic and not the one we observed at the beginning of the full-scale invasion and which turned out to be a failure for the russians. as for the north, they did not plan to meet resistance there. a completely different

tactic was used in the east, where they understood that the units were standing still and ready to meet during these months . tactics change, they also learn and again it is impossible to underestimate the huge machine that is in russia, it is learning. it also draws conclusions, as if by its own mistakes, and the further it goes, the more difficult it is to fight more often in winter, although we also draw conclusions from of our issues that arose during the hostilities. well, i think we will win. because the most important thing is that we have something to fight for. they are aggressors. they came to someone else's land and thanks because it is very supportive

of the whole world. help, it would be difficult for us to survive primarily in the economic issue of providing weapons with ammunition, the fact that our people are ready to fight, they must have something, first of all, from artillery to aviation to protofuel systems from hypothetical to what we are dealing with already now, in fact, every air alarm is an expected russian attack on some of the infrastructure facilities in kyiv, in particular , we are always ready for this. of course, we see that the quality of the air defense system has increased significantly, but the flights are is it possible to be 100% safe, not one system will give a 100% guarantee, because everything depends

on the mass of the blow of the ukrainian legal system, so does the sofa if, counting the damage coefficient of the potens, destroying the entire 70-80 and 90% this is a very high indicator. unfortunately, there are rocket misses. if there are 5-6-7 rockets at one point, the popov system is simply not able to cope with this threat, and there is a problem. we have an accurate system, we do everything to make two or three rings in order to to provide in all directions, but the enemy also prepares for each shelling. they approach quite powerfully, and change trajectories and methods of defeat. therefore, we have a worthy enemy in this direction, and preparations are underway both on our side and on

their side for each shelling, they do not have our happiness is that there are not so many powerful means of destruction left, so they calculate the flight of each missile or is there something that we really need for a more effective defense of kyiv from the air. so we are asking this from our western partners, we are asking for the appropriate norms of the air defense system, they are coming but they are coming not at such a pace, not as much as we would like, if they come with these patriots, they promise us this. it will be a very powerful defense, because this missile can hit at quite a long distance, my dear the type of missiles, even ballistics, which we cannot destroy now with the means we have at the moment, but it is obvious that we need more than we already have more and more missiles

, more means, and that there is a lot of air, and without help, without saturating our units, accordingly, by means of impression it is difficult for us to guarantee the protection of the civilian population from such a problem, you met the beginning of a full-scale invasion as the commander of the operation of the joint forces, and you mentioned at the beginning of our conversation that at that time you were still preparing for the fact that the russians will break through in the east, meanwhile, throughout this year, we have been watching how influential western publications periodically write about the fact that american intelligence warned ukraine and about the possibility of an offensive in the north , including, for example, about the probability of the landing of the russian landing party in gostomeli, why did we think that such a development events are unlikely, first of all, from the strength of means that the

russians had, the group that they created was, in principle, sufficient to have a great potential for success in the east, because the fact that they did it at different points in different directions , first of all, it was a calculation of our unpreparedness and inability to conduct appropriate defensive actions in all directions , they did not assess our potential in the first place, if it was not in the kyiv direction, they were met accordingly, met and inflicted such losses that the majority parts that were in the direction of kyiv lost their combat capabilities, but first of all we were preparing in the east because the task that putin set for this operation was primarily the east of donetsk, luhansk region was therefore ready

were to different dimensions of the situation according to all their calculations. they should have finished the grouping in a maximum of a week, well, in the first week, two or three, in addition to the fact that we were forced to regroup in some directions, we did not fully include all the plans for the coverage of the dissection, on the contrary, we withdrew to the east of ukraine most of the groups that should were to go to the kharkiv region and finish the operation in the south of ukraine, they were forced to transfer these forces and means to the east in order to still mean our group, but our group there still gives a decent repulse in the direction of the donetsk luhansk region, having in principle bound all the combat-ready forces that are there and grinding all the new

new reserves of the established football players. in march, you were transferred from the east to kyiv, and it is still interesting what was the main challenge for you in such a change in your activity because after all, in the east of ukraine, the war has been going on since 2014, obviously our positions were already strengthened there, and here kyiv, which, as it looks, was not quite ready for the offensive. so it was completely new for me, but in principle the experience of conducting hostilities in the 14th year is there, and we managed to quickly prepare for myron to create a new powerful line of defense around kyiv, to create a mechanism of cooperation and interaction as civilian structures of other military armed forces and, in general, of the interaction of the military dftg

of the territorial defense police of the national guard forces of special defense, it worked as the only mechanism of the military administration and they were successful. what was the turning point for you in the defense of kyiv when you realized that all the russians here failed in first of all, it was the peak. this was the route when the russians had a bridgehead on the banks of the irpin river from the kyiv side, and there was such a decisive moment: what are we going to do, are we going to be able to destroy them? realized that there was a chance to destroy the entire group around kyiv, and

our active actions began, actions began regarding the attempt to cut the logistical routes for this group, and this was of such decisive importance for the russian group that began to retreat urgently, do you understand if they can’t get surrounded? and what happened if , as of now, speaking for you, for a person who in this war since 2014, the most difficult moment or day of documents was a lot, first of all, these were the first battles, probably in 2014 , for the first time, i lost understanding, the first that this is for a long time, that this is not some kind of tourist challenge - this is a country, an aggressor country with huge potential, with personnel of the armed

forces, especially it was difficult to understand what is not what to understand, but to accept what we have dozens of not years well, during my life, i was told that we have a country, a brotherly country from which, when there is no threat, everything changes in one year, we understand that we have a thief, an eternal enemy, and for as long as this country of ukraine will have peace, god willing, we will win on this war is what we have for this, having such support, but as long as there is russia, we will not have peace, therefore, we must end the war on the borders of the year 91 so that they no longer have a chance to sow our land at the beginning of this year even before of a full-scale invasion , journalists from the british edition of the times came to you in a hurry, and when i was preparing for our

interview, i came across this article on your comments and i drew attention to the fact that this article began with a pessimistic assessment of the situation, that there is nothing special in ukraine now allies have no modern weapons, russia dominates ukraine on earth, at sea, and in the air, but what the ukrainians have and what can become their such reliable real defense is their rage, in principle, in part, this turned out to be an absolutely true assessment, but what now ukrainians have, in addition to rage, in this war, first of all, rage is necessary, so what remains is the second priority is that we are fighting for our land, and thirdly, and maybe now, first of all, support, after all, at the moment, there is a lot of support from the whole world, weapons are coming, we see how ukrainians are met all over the world, we

understand that we are not alone, we understand that the essence of the war has already been understood by the majority of european countries, because before that, if there was no propaganda, we worked powerfully, we are from a country that is fighting against independence, they made us a country where and where is the civil war and this is the turning point of this moment of understanding these sanctions that have been imposed that russia has become a rogue country, this is also a very powerful support for us because, in principle, we ourselves understand the fate of the war, the fate of ukraine, not only on our fronts , but on a strategic scale on a global scale russia is setting such conditions that in the near future it will not be able to fully conduct combat operations, provide

its troops and generally maintain the brand it held before as a world leader, you said in one of your interview that your dream is to raise the ukrainian flag over luhansk and luhansk region for you uh-uh, this probably occupies a special place, or in 14-15 years, uh-uh, it was in luhansk region that you took an active part in hostilities. well, i think in donetsk, too, you probably i don't mind raising the ukrainian flag , have these 10 months of full-scale invasion made this dream more real? you know that the first two months were difficult to understand how the war would develop, how the hostilities would be, at the moment we clearly understand that we have the only chance and to end the war on our on the borders of 1991, it is impossible to give us a chance for russia to rest, because in a year or two

it may be less and there will be war again. because only the complete liberation of our land will give us a chance to have our own free, independent european country in the future, so we have other options no, we go to the end and fight to the end, besides, we have the support of the entire world community in this. the last question about the borders of 1991 was in the interview of general zaluzhny, which we mentioned to you. he said that ukraine needs to to go to the borders on february 23 - it was actively cited 300 tanks 600-700 bmp 500 howitzers that we need in order to go to the borders in 1991 we first of all need weapons equipment the amount of equipment all depends on the capabilities of our partners because some

european countries do not have close to the potential that we need now, and in order to provide ukraine with the necessary amount, the work of the entire world community is needed, because the countries here also disarmed, it will not be surpluses that cannot be given. i think it is already perfectly understand your calculated potential , taking into account these last thesis that were from the leader of russia when he talked about the creation of a new grouping of new divisions in terms of the number of personnel of the equipment, we must respond accordingly to such statements, create the same groupings for adequate action against them, force for this, we have people ready , but the equipment. unfortunately, there is not enough ammunition at the moment, and in order to be united in responding by saving people and having a victory on the battlefield,

we really need weapons, modern weapons. well, you see the will to make us supported to the end and understands that if russia is given a chance to win in ukraine, then all european principles will be leveled, all in the principle of democracy and the world will again fall into chaos, that's why after ukraine, russia will not stop, the baltics will go further, poland will come next, this is all perfectly understood while we are the barrier between the civilized world and the horde that wants to dominate and redistribute the world again, mr. generals, thank you for this conversation and i really hope that your optimism will really come true and everything will be as she said on these holidays, you have to to meet guests whom no one invited to these holidays lights that shine for you do not

want garlands instead of a bounty explosions instead of shots of champagne shots but on these holidays we are still together because every day you give us the most valuable gifts of life and freedom and we have one new year's wish victory for all, our warriors. thank you. we congratulate you. this is a story about steel dust, steel will and character hardened in the sacred fire. this is a story that remains alive. the soul that was born is the free story of my earth a new destiny of an indomitable country is being forged metal in

my hands and in the bodies of my enemies in the voice that promises us victory together we make this world stronger ukrainians nation of steel people for the holidays one wish victory the creator a chance for him there is a place just for you to work from canada sings the same we are a new dream, a drama for my mother, none of them are worth sacrificing a family for