stability of ukrainian it is situational now for the period of the war, for the period of the crisis situation, or do you think we are talking about something that will remain with the ukrainians even after the war? next, let's break down this stability into some components, and stability to what political unity, the absence of political strife, ukrainians clearly buried these axes during the war period. yes, and they do not wave them, certain politicians continue to wave them they see that this is not happening in any public mood, accordingly, they themselves are already burying these axes in the economy, what do you think we will have right away, i don't know, the klondike, we will become, i don't know who, and some kind of super economically developed state, no, we are certainly waiting for a good one, i mean a severe economic crisis, we have a difficult period ahead of us, but stability in relation to the enemy in relation to vlas

independence in relation to one's will i think it is in our blood and it is forever, it was not acquired in one day no, we always had it, it was just that there was no place to show it well, let's go yes maidan in 2004, the maidan of 2014 was also a manifestation of resilience when we overthrew the government or defended our civil rights, it was also a project of resilience. do they consider themselves citizens of ukraine or are they citizens of their region, for example, is the number of people who identify themselves with the state of ukraine growing, and is the number of people growing who now feel proud that they are live in ukraine, this is actually your question.

it illustrates the main change that has taken place for a ukrainian, namely, a different perception of one's own country, this pride in the fact that you are ukrainian. let 's be frank. identified themselves as a citizen of ukraine , is it a little or a lot, well, against the background of european states, it is probably average, yes, against the background of some kind of historical heritage there, maybe even a lot, but it is 8 out of 10, and we are 10 as citizens of ukraine, and the rest were also soviet people. well, but and there was a huge percentage of soviet people who were citizens of ukraine and a soviet person or a citizen of the world at the same time. these are different identifications that can overlap here. you can’t say that there are eight and the rest are others. no, it all overlaps, but today we have 10 out of 10. ukrainians who identify themselves with a citizen of ukraine did not feel ashamed that they felt this

connection with this land, with this territory, and most importantly with this country, the state of ukraine , in which they live and, accordingly, in another way our not-so-distant past began to be perceived and passed. well, both distant and not-so-distant, well, stepan bandera has already become a hero for all ukrainians. has a ukrainian read more about stepan bandera or learned anything about the history of ukraine? nothing like this is a different perception, and a ukrainian began to look critically on the soviet past and on the common past with russia on russia and on russia as an enemy that we have learned something different than what happened centuries before this war - it is the same war as all the previous ones with russians and even ukraine with history i did not study for these months or you, the first weeks, no, but he changed his attitude. well, finally, even 30 years of independence, we asked about them, and the institute of

sociology asked, it seems, in the 21st year, that is, a year before the war, there were more failures or successes during the period of independence, or the same. yes, well of course, the majority of ukrainians, or the relative majority of ukrainians, believed that during the 30 years of independence, we were such a, well, not very successful, successful state, we were unsuccessful , in my opinion, we lived poorly, everyone had bad conditions, the authorities did not cope with anything, and it was it's getting worse and worse and worse, it's the 21st year, and here we are as a sociological group rating in the 22nd year repeating these questions and we see that already 30 years of independence they say evaluating 30 years of independence ukrainians say that there were 30 years and we were in principle successful and developed and the government did a perfect job in the economy grew and the conditions of ukrainians were not bad good conditions we lived well and then it is comparable i am absolutely you are right and here you know when already how how how how to

simplify well when you are already on the bottom fell out all that you are still bottom is already growth, and therefore if you live, if rockets do not fall from the sky, if you have light, if you have water from time to time or constantly, then you have good conditions, and here we have already simplified our requirements for you, this is one on the other hand, there are also changes in consciousness, in which ukrainian resilience is manifested, we do not attack each other , we have one common enemy, russia-2, we jointly want to go to europe and live in europe, to be part of europe and we already identify ourselves with europeans began to see themselves in a different way, even from the side against the background of european countries, if before the war we recorded that the absolute majority of ukrainians, answering the question and where did you classify ukraine against the background of european countries , did not refer to the country in what is called the file and fail state yes, that is, well, no

the losers succeeded. well, let's say yes, now, no, we are at least middle-class. and in general, we are at the level of european countries, so ukrainians think that this is a change in self-esteem, low self-esteem that we had, you know, such a peasant when ukrainians came to europe, they did not really want to say that they were ukrainians, embroidered yellow-blue flags, well, it was rare, let's say, let 's say frankly. yes, now the ukrainian flag is everywhere, everywhere in europe, everywhere, and we proudly carry our own ukrainian identity. therefore, these are very good changes, which of us c- this stress, this war forced us to mobilize and change for the better, by the way, you are talking about the movement towards europe, about the perception of ourselves also as a part of europe, do ukrainians understand that in order, in particular, in the end, our application for membership in the eu has become a reality for ukrainians and the ukrainian state that it will be necessary to work hard, i am referring here to such a

challenge as corruption, i am also referring to, for example, the reform of the judicial law enforcement system, is there an awareness that one should be called a european for this, much more is needed to do, we prove that we can stand up for ourselves, but can we figure it out inside our country? so yes, this request or these thoughts were always among ukrainians even before the war , including externally, we all recognized that we a deeply corrupt state and corruption is the number one problem that needs to be solved, we understood that it prevents us from living like in europe, because when a ukrainian said that he wanted to join the european union, he wanted to live like in europe, it is quietly provided, relatively quiet. yes, that is, the grass is greener in europe. well, somewhere there were such ideas, but in order for all this to become reality, yes, changes are needed, the fight against corruption is needed, the judiciary is needed. well , law enforcement agencies are needed in the courts, you need to live like a european according to the laws and frameworks, and a

ukrainian - that's, let's say, change it's always difficult. yes, it's always difficult to get out of the comfort zone. that's why it was such a long process, it's a dynamic that dragged on for years. now we have a dynamic that changes once a week. for personal purposes, the number of people who turned to the courts and defended their rights as citizens in the courts increased, and accordingly demanded justice from these judges as a minimum yes . it was all stretched out in time, so now these time for changes is short and changes are happening fast and devastating, they are incredible, we have changed more than in all the previous 30 years of independence in just one week, respectively. did you ask if a ukrainian is ready for such changes ? to think

about politics or not to think about some kind of development i don’t know about any kind of industry or democracy in ukraine, uh, in the conditions of war, how can you plan something when rockets are flying here, how can you even see anything further than in in principle, a few days, i wanted to say a week, not a week, a few days, and that’s all, and this short-termism does not allow me, as a sociologist , to answer your question whether the ukrainian is ready for these changes. i think, given the beast that is our neighbor, the ukrainian will be ready any changes and any way out of the comfort zone after victory in order to secure oneself in the future, and the ukrainian sees the only, or rather, the two most important directions that can secure our state from muscovy: ukraine's entry into nato, ukraine's entry into the eu, and disarmament

russia, or the nuclear disarmament of russia, i.e. take away its teeth. what are the ways it can bite? here are our ways, and for this i think a ukrainian will be able to fight corruption, pass any laws, then there will be a question for the government, then there will be a question about the reforms that will be implemented in ukraine. and the government will be bound to do this and comply with these laws and start. the government should always not tighten the nuts of the citizen who thanks the doctor , but tighten the nuts in himself, then the citizen should automatically continue this and the citizen that will accept if it will be such an order and this will happen, we will simply be a successful state, if the government cannot reflect or follow this path, then the ukrainian gets a huge disappointment. if we continue to live as we have always done it in our own way with corruption with money laundering, if the government spends money not on what is needed. and if there is no control over

expenses, if the court is not independent, of course we will slip back into what we were, and before that, let me illustrate sociology. before every new year. in recent years, we ukrainians were asked, er, how do you think the situation in the country will change next year, and to be honest, it was yes. well, it will be better there , plus or minus, half of the ukrainians said it will be the same, and a huge part of ukraine will be worse, they also said good there, 20-25 %. and that now, of course, from this bottom, we can see that it will definitely be better next year, good, but a critical assessment, and this is what you know, the swamp that buried our life in our country before the war, and it is catching up with us somewhere, yes, and we will have to somehow fight back from boasting, because you can't live as usual, it won't work for any politician, any statesman, and any

ordinary citizen who wakes up every morning and says to himself, if only this would end, i want to live like before without war without anything i want so that one day it will not be , somehow it is necessary to accept it and many have already understood this and are building a new self or their new realities and moving on, so these changes are still ahead of us and here the main thing is not to get disappointed by their expectation to be ready more precisely to your expectations, to make certain efforts, mr. typich, i also wanted to ask about, returning to the topic of history , the attitude towards one's history is really changing, and even i would say that the interest in one's history is growing, at least i can see it from my surroundings, i wanted to ask separately about the ukrainian language a number of factors that, in my opinion , influence the fact that the ukrainian language is becoming more and more used, this is also a profile law, but is it also a war, or do you record an increase in the

number of people who decide in favor the ukrainian language, er, we divide the issue of the ukrainian language into several components, the first is, of course, identification, what is your native language, and even russian-speaking people say that their native language is ukrainian, they were born with it, maybe their parents spoke and they became russian-speaking, well, because of circumstances, because of not i know the russian-speaking environment, whatever, yes, there can be many explanations, accordingly, my native language is now, if i’m not mistaken, 80% is ukrainian, and this trend has been growing since the beginning of independence, non-stop, constantly just called they constantly lowered their native russian language, they lowered it now, i don't remember, it seems to you that about nine percent say that their native language is russian, there are also bilinguals, and so on. well, they don't care, it's important, that's the question of identification, it's already growing very well, you understand who you are ukrainian and your native language is ukrainian is a

political issue of language yes, and how should the ukrainian and russian languages ​​coexist in ukraine? so this question was always brought up in the elections to give some rights extended in some regions to conduct a second state it could be interpreted or discussed in different ways, but today this question should be removed altogether, it should be simply thrown into the trash for our politicians, and the absolute majority of 90, more than 90%, say that the only state language in ukraine should be ukrainian; this question does not exist if some politician will pull it out, well, first of all, he is not in the trend, and secondly, he wants to bring us back and drag us back to bano with these weights, which i spoke about a little earlier. well, there is the question of the actual language in everyday life, there are changes here, and i heard different points there is no opinion about what it is where you are fixing of changes, those who spoke russian, who continue nothing like that according to sociological data, such a small number of

people now, well, no, not significantly, the number of people who use the ukrainian language in everyday life has increased by a third, and russian-speaking people with, well , at least express that we will come to the ukrainian language in the near future, two a third of people who speak two languages ​​at home say that they are going to switch to the ukrainian language in the near future. this is a declaration of intentions. it may not happen, but it is finally actually data, if we are talking about russian-speaking people and those who speak two languages ​​at home, 40% of them are almost every second of them, and with the beginning of the war, well, either very often or even constantly uses the ukrainian language in everyday life, so he remains russian-speaking in your head you have to translate, you think in russian, that's how you grew up, that's how your brain is made up, but you're

trying and you're making a conscious choice in favor of ukrainian i'm already silent because conscious choice for children ukrainian-speaking schools ukrainian-speaking universities ukrainian literature ukrainian cartoons ukrainian everything was really needed for this and the law existed even before the war and there in ancient times, i don't even remember what year it is, 2002 seems to be the ban on russian-language advertising. this is very old history, but all this worked and is working now on the establishment of the ukrainian language, therefore, we are still far from complete ukrainian-speaking, but the movement is very fast, again, it is surprisingly faster than it was 30 years before that, another interesting moment until february 24. russification in ukraine, i would probably be worried about how it would be perceived in society, that in different settlements or there representatives of different age categories, and some of

them could perceive it sharply. perhaps there would even be some protests. now we see that in the conditions of martial law, what decisions adopted in favor of de-russification , renaming of streets, dismantling of monuments , er, all this is going quite quietly, yes, not quietly. we may not hear applause, but all this is supported. putin has done more for our ukrainianization and for our identification than all the presidents of ukraine before this, it must be recognized and thanks to the enemy in the common enemy, we now have a direction that someone has long called away from moscow, we are going in this direction and i think it will not end with the end of the war after our victory, it will not end, 60% of ukrainians say that they will never

restore relations with the russians, it is impossible a priori, and another 20-30% say that this restoration is possible in 20-30 years, so in total it is somewhere between 80 and over 80 and 75 somewhere percent of ukrainians who do not see the possibility of restoring relations with russia, and therefore everything that contains the word russia, putin , i don't know the russians, let's continue there with some matyuks, but everything that has to do with this relationship, everything is denied by the ukrainian ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, the number of parishioners now two percent in our sociology, what does this mean, it means that the physical number of parishioners who go to these priests or to this church is much more numerous and territorially numerous but

no one really wants to identify themselves with their religious affiliation to the moscow patriarchate. in the end, i would like to talk to you about the ukrainians' vision of ukraine's victory in this war. in fact, sociology is amazing how much ukrainians are open to this despite all the difficulties. i was very impressed by that that in your rating polls i found a figure that 85% of ukrainians are convinced that ukraine will firstly defeat the russians and secondly return all the occupied territories, including crimea and those territories that we know as separate districts of the donetsk luhansk oblasts under these conditions , it looks like talking about any inclination of ukraine to negotiations now is a notoriously unsuccessful strategy both for the leadership of the ukrainian state and for the partner states, as if it is absolutely ruling, i will correct one question 97% of ukrainians believe in

our victory, they do not have any doubts it is 97%, that is why we are optimistic, we have faith in us, we have a core thanks to which we basically defend ourselves and also give, well, we give ourselves advice in the rear, roughly speaking. we should end the war, to what extent should we fight? yes, today 85% say that we should liberate all our territories. then it will be a victory. stop at the borders until february 24, that is, without crimea and without part of donbas. because we have nothing to do with them, they were under occupation for eight years, we will not deal with them, that is, this is enough for them, but it is 10%, up to 10 and there is a small part. well as any way you can to they should be treated by people who say that it is necessary to go to the territory of russia and continue

to fight until russia falls, because otherwise it will not disappear. yes, such 4%. and you are absolutely right , any representative of the government who only says that the war needs to be stopped and that it is necessary to somehow go to negotiations with russia, in principle, to put it mildly, he will not be clear, and for ukrainians, the same is true of our partners when they call that we need to sit down with the russians at the negotiating table, well, to put it mildly, the ukrainian does not agree to this at all, therefore the war is to victory and victory is ours the territory of our borders in 1991 is a fact this is the case at the moment and can anything affect it well let's say that in 9 months wars and what have we not yet seen atrocities rape murders shelling destruction of infrastructure and deportations what have we not yet seen atomic war it is not yet have they seen the atomic bomb, can it affect their mood, well, hypothetically, i can assume,

but ukrainians hmm, if i am not mistaken, 25% believe that putin can use nuclear weapons, and the majority do not believe that, even on this question, even an atomic war, atomic weapons are not will incline the ukrainian to negotiations with the russians about this safety margin of optimism and enthusiasm of the ukrainians for 8 years, er, the war has been going on for 10 months, a full-scale war, could it be that these figures that we are talking about now are impressive. will they decrease, you know, if the war related to a certain category of people or a certain territory, as it was 8 years before, there was a war somewhere in the donbas, except for the crimea, we had already forgotten, well , somehow we wanted to renounce this, then we could talk about well, there is a decrease in stability, a lack of safety margin, something else the war now applies to every ukrainian,

every second ukrainian has a loved one who serves in the war, this is our sociology. by the lack of light, it is measured by the inner mood to tolerate the russians like this. whether to live with them or negotiate with them, that is impossible, as they correctly said. they deserve to be killed, not to be afraid to kill everything. will end up on our territory, then you can think about what to do next with them and you fight on their territory, somehow fence off with some kind of barbed wire, crocodiles settled there between us and them, whatever you want but that will be already then, first of all, you have to free your territories thank you panel to

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me, sport is a tool for achieving certain goals, and recognition is one of these goals, and now i use recognition to convey certain of my civic positions to the political public plane, no matter how hard it is and i didn't hear any whining or complaining from anyone. but how hard will it be? no , i still say significantly. we will win. congratulations from the cash register. please tell me that from the beginning of the full-scale invasion, everyone is known. one way or another, the ukrainian was looking for his place in this whole story in the new reality, looking for how he can be useful as this process, this challenge and what happened to you, how did you respond to

it ? i knew that i had to do what they were doing and work for a common victory and accordingly. well, somewhere i was looking for my place in all that. i am a soldier under a contract. therefore, from the very first day, from the very first day when the war began, then arrived for military service the base and, accordingly, the first place, they practically lived there. well, they waited, waited for the team, like other athletes, the soldiers waited for orders from the higher command, but while we were there at the military base, accordingly, i began to volunteer in order to at least in some way join the support of our military and that's when the idea arose to sell the olympic medal and collected funds and used my instagram to inform the foreign audience about what was happening in our country, somehow

, then when there was a little better from april to may, the situation evened out stabilized, then returned to training. so we began to prepare for the european championship and then the world games this year. so, what kind of attitude did you feel in different countries to the situation that arose before this war, to the need to help our country? well, the first place was in general uh, so many call notifications. i have never received them. well, absolutely all except for two countries, it is clear that they understood which ones, but they simply refused, and the rest very actively expressed their support, throwing some kind of donations here for the first extra there were so many interviews in a month that i, well , foreign media, i also have such and such experience, and a lot of japan was interested

in the events in our country, only in the japanese media, somewhere around 10-15 interviews, and cnn, bbc, and there were such ones the media were also huge, well, very much . people cheered for us, well, everyone was already in shock from that situation, they are still cheering to this day, and even the way we arrived. our team is a national team for the world games. this clearly shows everything , because when at the opening of the world games, our team came out there are stands for the stadium the stadium stood up and applauded us and congratulated our team. expressing support in this way, how does this sports diplomacy work in general? this is because there are athletes who are immersed in the process, so to speak, of competition, training , competition. in the microcosm , there are athletes, and there are many of them in ukraine, and you are among them, who, since the beginning of the war, have immediately

started very active activities. position is a question of a citizen's position and i, as a citizen of ukraine, of course i support er for our people for our country, i try in every possible way to help and support er, my visibility on my social network is, in principle, one of the tools i use for to convey some information about what is happening, this is one of the ways to resist that russian propaganda, this is informing, so i use it to inform people about the situation in ukraine, that we need help to collect some accumulate some well, resources should be used as intended, but this is an individual issue, we have different people who are silent, and i will express them