and absolutely, you know, in the khbshno-chakov manner, everyone has their own role, everyone is in their place according to their position, and they play out this scenario, which is as if the church asked that people go to the temples and so on, we are like that, or an explanation and so on, but it's all a lie in fact and they turned it away. and what are you really waiting for christmas, whatever? i think that the hostilities will continue, again, i think that ukraine will not go to this action , you understand, even if theoretically to admit that it is again it was possible, well, we only had ceasefire regimes and a ceasefire with russia as part of the minsk agreements, how many times it was violated and russia constantly blamed ukraine. i am not even inclined to think that they would have

lasted 36 hours this time. it seems that one way or another the hostilities will still continue . do you now have an understanding of what kind of escalation this will be? in principle, it is clarified somewhere. that it could be the preparation of a strike group that could be from the northeast and in the east, that is, from the kursk regions of belgorod and the east directly and belarus as well. auxiliary direction as a deliberate distracting factor for our troops, i.e. they will try to attack for what purpose, the first goal and the minimum task is to hold the territories currently occupied by russia, and first of all the land corridor to crimea, because this has great weight for them and

the second maximum task is to try to capture the donetsk-luhansk region within the administrative boundaries and possibly advance further to other places in the east and south of the ukrainian state, this is the maximum task, that is, these are the goals that they are pursuing sometime in february of this year, but also a person also understanding what is happening is preparing for our counteroffensive. actually, there is actually a competition for resources, for the initiative, who will accumulate the fastest will prepare, the one who will strike, but i hope and believe that it will still be ukraine today, a video appeared that evgeny prigozhin, the founder of the wagner pvk, he said that the first groups of prisoners who were recruited for the war in ukraine had their criminal records removed and their contract ended, and it actually looks like it is some kind of tool to encourage russian

prisoners and you to go to war, so what? what do you say from your side, of course. this is the way the beauties recruit a large number of people in places of deprivation of liberty. they are used by one of the elements of that not just pressure when they are put under pressure, but actually an incentive for them to join. that they can get a criminal record annulled , more than that, the same. another question is that, in general , all criminal records should be removed, and prigozhyn said that a person should come out as if from a clean sheet at all, without any complaints, this is what they encourage, but even these shots that you show you know, there are some here, it’s even impossible to explain, because he stands against the background of the wounded, against the background of those who have lost limbs and so on, he laughs, encourages and says yes, now you will have a new life and so on, and the handsome man showed himself against the

background of a large number of dead and russian the wagnerites and the military, which they actually brought from under the bahmut and, er, he congratulated them there with a happy new year, he says that the next year is already a new year for you, well, in general, things are absolutely like that, as they say, you know, sometimes they are in a sadistic and humanist manner, which is very difficult to explain, but that what do they recruit? that 's how they actually graduate and they go to russia, and it's clear what they're going to do next. well, that's what they do. and do you think that the wave of mobilization in russia will be successful now, because today is already january 5 and i remember the interview of kirill budanov and also the statement of the minister of defense oleksiy reznikov, top ukrainian officials announced the start of mobilization in russia on january 5, you understand the case, because it seems to me that russia does

not necessarily have to announce that there will be some next stage of mobilization decree of the russian president from september 21 on the beginning of the so-called partial mobilization, it is valid, it is not canceled, it has no time frame. therefore, according to this decree, the mobilization can continue for now there is nothing limiting it, and it seems to me that it is not necessary they will announce it because, after all, no matter how certain the socio-political decision in russia was to mobilize in september , which was announced by putin, it caused it, and therefore i honestly do not understand why the russian leadership should announce it if they have for all levers for today and from the point of view of their legislation to continue this mobilization and in principle not to announce it and not to do it publicly, to do it covertly, it is possible less volumes in order not to cause any upheavals there but

after all, we will mobilize, you have no doubts that it will happen. and i work, it has not stopped, in fact, the recruitment of personnel continues, the summons that were sent out for january since last year, just less guys, it is done covertly and not publicly, i do not think that it is necessary there will definitely be an announcement, but i have no doubt that they will select people. at the beginning of our conversation, if i understood you correctly, who will go on the attack first? and what is missing from the ukrainian army ? the competition for resources is that it is also for our enemy because the fact that they are gathering people and people are going to fight instead of heavy artillery, well, this is their approach, we understand that approach and you will not be there

in order to accumulate resources we need those decisions about we have already begun to hear the substantive first statement of the american president of the united states considering options to transfer the bradley infantry fighting vehicle to ukraine the second decision of france on the transfer of light tanks and the expectation that we will have a decision on the provision of armored vehicles to ukraine at the next rammstein exactly the weapons that are necessary for offensive operations, of course, the next stage would be to get tanks, what they are talking about and the reinforcement of artillery, that is, summarizing. you can say that you just need to support weapons with ammunition, this is what is necessary. actually , the accumulation of this is going on now, but i would like it to speed up and revived and turned out. let's say that at the level of the selected equipment and tanks, also the experts with whom i spoke recently say that there is a very noticeable

and severe lack of ammunition, despite the fact that, as in on the ukrainian side and on the russian side, again , this is what i said about the competition for resources, of course, you understand, the war continues, the fighting will come, it will come every day, every day, spring, we are spending, the enemy has spent a lot, but just the same . partners for acceleration and are deprived of the production of projectiles. they will still help us, in addition, by evaluating and having good intelligence data, as we can see, we can deliver highly effective strikes, saving projectiles and ammunition, a classic example is he described by the washington post about the battle for kharkiv, when it was estimated that 100,000 shells were needed, and the ukrainian troops managed to use 30,000, and at the same time, where can you buy kharkiv and save a shell, so you have

to go out and check every hit in order for the strike to be as effective as possible and cause destruction to the enemy, but also supplies we will also continue to receive in the future, it is not yet the case that all reserves have been exhausted and a crisis has already occurred when shells or ammunition for there is no ukraine, summarizing what you said, i will add only that they appeared, there was an evening summary of the general - the political leadership of russia is currently taking measures to prevent the mass departure of men abroad and to prepare for a new wave of mobilization, which is still expected in january. last message well, you see, well, she really is, she really is, they tested these measures before. now they will need people to do it , you understand, but you mentioned that the shells are running out of ammunition, which means they will fight with people. and that's all they are already doing.

for example, in the kreminnaya area, this already happened, and they threw their mobilized troops in large numbers, so they slowed down the counteroffensive actions of the ukrainian troops, but at what cost, with colossal losses of people , and in the end, i will only say about what you and i are talking about. we talked in the chat during the broadcast for our viewers launched a poll on whether you believe in putin's ceasefire 92% say they don't believe and 8% say they do to the minister of defense to implement the so-called christmas truce, they do not believe in its implementation in ukraine, and the ukrainian side is not ready to accept such conditions, thank you very much oleksandr musienko, the head of the center for military and legal studies, was on radio svoboda, you can't take away, you can't leave where to put who if it's about deputy mandates representatives of the banned party, the opposition platform for

life, began collecting signatures for the removal of the powers of people's deputies from the people's assembly in the verkhovna rada in december, the initiator was a deputy from the servant of the people oleg dunda, but it looks like the mission is impossible, at least so far, it has not been possible to collect the required 150 signatures, so far almost 70 deputies, mainly from the servants of the people and the homeland, have refused to put their signatures to the appeal to the speaker ruslan stefanchuk about the removal of the powers of deputies who were elected from banned pro-russian parties in the service of the people and in the homeland , they explain that they want to deprive the people's deputies of the prohibited mandates, exclusively the legal way, the constitutional way, so that they cannot to appeal the decision through the court, but currently they say that according to the constitution it is impossible to do that, that is why they do not put their signatures, is it really impossible, or cannot people's deputies deprive the mandates of their colleagues from the banned police union, we will talk about it now, two people

's deputies are joining our broadcast, one of them - this is the representative of the servant of the people, oleg dunda, who actually became the initiator of this collection of signatures and the second representative of european solidarity , volodymyr vyatrovych. as far as i understand, you did not sign under the initiative of p. duld dobriy evening, mr. dunda. allow me to start with you. you represent the party, the servant of the people. as i understand it, the majority is split on this issue. the first is a very short question . how many signatures have we managed to collect as of today? i don't agree with her, the mission is accomplished, you said, for example, about the homeland, so as of today, the deputies from the homeland have changed their opinion and are starting to sign little by little, despite yesterday's statement in the homeland faction, that is they decided that it is expedient today, for example, kucherenko signed and put up his

post about it that this is an extremely necessary urgent issue and it must be resolved as soon as possible, and there are already massive conversations about how many teams of deputies from the homeland who seek to sign it in the near future from european solidarity in our country almost 80% signed. except for volodymyr vyatrovych, he was the only one who did not agree to the vote. i think in the near future everyone will sign. in general, everyone wrote and called me today . unfortunately, they are not in kyiv. how will they be on next week, they will definitely come. i didn't even ask them, i didn't start, but i bought time, and they were already crying themselves. children from the servant of the people, more than 50 have already signed and a large number are planning to sign when they will appear in kyiv, so i think that in the near future there will definitely be 150 signatures, and then when we plan to bring it to the floor, this will most likely be february, there will be more than 200 , and more than that, talking to colleagues from whom

i ask to sign and explain why this needs to be done, why this is an urgent issue, and why these security guards should not be collaborators and a pro-russian deputy, he should all know , they say yes, it is possible for some reasons and we will not sign each of ours, we will not talk about it at all, but they say that when this question is raised in this family hall, they will definitely vote, i.e. listen now. we will also talk now, but let me. vyatrovych, do you have any sentiments towards the opz, well , considering your biography, legislative activity, but nevertheless, why didn't you sign because it is just an imitation, it is a stormy imitation that will not lead to the deprivation of mandates in the opz and other pro-russian politicians and mr. duda - this is great understands with he says that it is

necessary to collect 150 signatures and the mission is accomplished with no signatures it is impossible to deprive them of their mandates it is about collecting signatures in order to consider several draft laws as part of the agenda of the session mr. duda presents the party of the servant of the people, the party of the majority, which has only 240 votes in the parliament, what prevents the party, for example, from removing nestor shufrych, the representative of the ukrainian communist party of ukraine, from the head of the freedom of speech committee. what prevents us from asking a question. to deprive at least viktor medvedchuk of his parliamentary mandate, nothing is being done. and so i believe that you and i are witnesses, you know, of such a two-handed game when, on the one hand, allegedly representatives of the same party, servants of the people, say that they are fighting with pro-russian mps from the people's party and gather some 150 2000 signatures that will not deprive them of their parliamentary mandates on the other hand and it is like a statement by the leadership of this party that says that let's do

everything in a complete manner and in the meantime nothing is being done 10 months have passed, there is indeed absolute authority and the possibilities provided by the constitution to deprive traitors of ukraine's deputy mandate for 10 months , the representatives of the government, who have full control, in fact, of all branches of government, have not done anything for that, there are no verdicts of judges, there is no record of significant some of those traitor deputies have not been in ukraine since february 24, so they can also be deprived of their parliamentary mandates, there is no record of the fact that some of them have dual citizenship, not so they can also be deprived of their parliamentary mandates therefore, everything that is happening now with this meeting of 150 signatures is just a fiction which, unfortunately, discredits very correctly and we need the idea of ​​removing the mandates of deputies from the list of those who betrayed ukraine .

there is nothing on the faction of european solidarity in european solidarity supports this majority, it is mostly signed for the people, made a completely different statement yes, i want to quote this statement, sir, gentlemen, allow me to quote this statement, pandunda, i will quote this statement, it is very important this is your party which you represent, you started collecting these signatures, there is an official party of the servant of the people, and here is what it says: we support and will support all legal and constitutional methods of removing the remnants of political influence from all representatives of the pro-russian forces but we are not ready to support voluntary and legally worthless initiatives that only play along with the pro-russian forces. it turns out that your own party, to which you belong, calls this initiative, which in principle many have no questions about, but they call it worthless. can i comment or have

patience? and still do not interrupt to have at least some kind of parliamentary ethics, and returning to the question, i understand that european solidarity will support except for yatrovich. by the way, i would like to remind you that this is a draft law directly of european solidarity, the main author is mr. goncharenko. and secondly, this is the government bill of european solidarity. regarding this, i ask mr. vyatrovych to keep himself to the people. you may hear something interesting about the statement of the servant of the people. look, if we look at the number of signatories and non-signers, who to date, if the members of the faction have signed, it is mainly for those who have not signed

, that is, they have signed the award from the servant of the people, about 50 deputies have not signed, about 40, that is, there is already a majority, so i do not understand what kind of statement could it be, but one way or another, i want to say about the only thing for me in general, as for the entire ukrainian people , there can be no compromise on this issue, and there can be no factions and the division of people 's deputies of ukraine by factions into only two, this collaborators of the upsj and pro-ukrainian parties. who does not actually sign, the goal is to conduct such a survey to sign so that all people 's deputies, except ex-mps of the upsj, state their position regarding this political issue, are they collaborators or are they pro ukrainian and this is not even a question of 150 votes . and everyone, without exception, must express their position, and there we will see who is included and who is the

big pro-ukrainian faction, and for this , first of all, i apologize. well, i understand that you hear a lot of interesting things, but you should not react like - the second goal - this, of course, is to vote and it does not depend on the leaders of the faction and so on. people's deputies, regardless of their faction , they are subjects. i did not just say that about the homeland, because the homeland said one thing yulia volodymyrivna tymoshenko and her deputies today those who are part of her faction do the opposite and sign and give their votes and in this way they will defeat the position of their leader and it is supported and this applies to all factions without exception and in this way the people 's deputies will show their political position and put pressure on the leadership and put it the question for the vote should be looked at a little further, you can, i can, i can, i can, i can, i can, i have a very simple question. we have a

very important committee on freedom of speech, which is headed by a representative of the opposition couple . of the opposition platform for the life of nestor shufrych, a person who can definitely be accused of treason, in order to remove him from this position, 226 votes are needed, why the party of the servant of the people, which has as many as 240 votes in the parliament, does not do this in 10 months, everything is finished, see for in order not only to remove mr. shufrych, but also to deprive us of dates, we need 226 more votes, when that's all, just a minute, i have another question for you, and these 226 votes must be voted in february. i urge mr. vyatrovych not to hide behind opzzh and write this and vote in february for stripped of mandates, then for sure we will not see that there is leverage in any committee , even we are the chairman of the committee. and yes , he will not even be a member of the committee, and then

let the law enforcement agencies press him down, but the main task of these scum there should not be mandates in the session hall, they should not have them and the russians should not use the legitimacy of these deputies to their advantage, i have a question for mr. volodymyr vyatrovych, you said several times that you would like it not to be somehow no, not a fiction, if there were specific cases, if there were specific accusations, if there were specific investigations, it would be confirmed that some people 's deputies have been in the parliament since february 24. in general, they are neither in the parliament nor in the country. from your point of view, why is no one recording this, why is no one under and what is the reason for the servants of the people to keep the police in the hall of the parliament , and volodymyr zelenskyi and top officials of the servants of the people said that there are obviously some connections between some deputies in the psg and moscow. then why do they keep them? because they need them votes in the psg, look at the results of voting for controversial laws of various kinds

, such as this law for the builders, where the party in power in the opc, the opc, is now completely synchronously voting with the servant of the people party, please listen . unfortunately, there is currently no broadcast of the verkhovna rada, please listen to nestor shufrych, who is yes the representatives of the party love the servants of the people. they speak with one voice. therefore, everything that is being said now about the so-called 150 votes is just a fix to divert attention from the fact that in fact the parliament was created, which includes the party of the servants of the people and the party of the people's party of ukraine, which vote absolutely synchronously, just a vote - analyze the results of the vote, what mr. dunda is doing . servants of the people, ok then. and what do you think, well , please, we have 5 minutes left, please, not everyone has a comment, for example, about the

movement, honestly. we recently analyzed the year 2022 with them. according to the voting results, there are absolutely more draft laws 300 + votes, that is, there is no sense in the presence of collaborators, session halls that threaten the statehood of ukraine are not there at all and votes are not needed for this, they should not be present there, and instead of the authorities explaining why we do not want to do this, i but i still urge pjanovich to join his colleagues in the faction and sign it and not go around saying that it is a fiction, nothing needs to be done. so, on the other hand, mr. mr. volodymyr vyatrovych to for example, a bill was voted that became a law, the truth is that it was not signed by the president, which is actually a very simple example . please look without the votes of the people here, did mr.

vetrovych not agree, but agree? here to be a judge, but if , for example, we imagine that in one or two days he collected 200 signatures for such and such an initiative. ready to deprive these deputies of their mandates in order to consider issues that i even want to consider, mr. dunda, let's not now analyze their constitutionality sufficient for the faction of the servant of the people to say we want to consider this issue and included them in the order of the data at the conciliation council, all this can be done exclusively the party of the servant of the people and other initiations, i see in what delight and in what passion petrovich wants to remain in the state of the psg faction of collaborators, it is very strange for me , and the maximum panic you have right now is that someone, in the last few days, see for myself how i saw a lot of personal disappointments of deputies who i thought they would be the first to sign it, but they are running and do not want to

sign, but i have a lot of questions. let me ask a question, look, you are approaching the deputy, let 's go to david arkhamia or to oleksandr there a group of influential deputies who hold relevant positions, you say , please sign what they answer to you, well, there are different answers, there is even an answer, i will not say who is the leader who said what i duplicated to you olezhe i will not sign now but you can count on my vote during the vote i will vote for as with all questions, it is to ask him in the session hall, there are a lot of such answers, some simply do not answer, some say, by the way, how does mr. yatrovych talk about constitutionality some say that he does not like the person who came to him, well , think about the question that cannot be compromised . i concentrate. because for me the main thing is yes or no, if no, you explain to people why no, it’s very

difficult to explain, well, it’s a political position, you’re either black or white, the war of other gray zones doesn’t exist, petrovich. well, choose the right year, gentlemen, and volodymyr zelenskyi could, by his decision, deprive the people of deputies in the mandate, well, there was a precedent when rabinovych, for example, was deprived of pietrovych, what do you think if it is proven, that is, there is a constitution that provides that if it is proven that a person has other citizenships, it can be done in this way it is possible to act in the same way as how it is possible to prove that what was submitted, including nestor shufrych, were those who can be accused in the state council , it is also possible to prove that some of the deputies were not in ukraine and are at their permanent place of residence abroad february 24, nothing of this in 10 months nothing has been done. not a single step in return. let's pretend that 150 signatures will change nothing . ha, sir, the owner, i will comment

. look, sir. the work, but the verkhovna rada still votes, this is our job, moreover, remarks that the president, the president has done his work and carried out work on the banning of pro-russian parties, and this is already our task, including your petrovich, to vote and resolve this issue, all series p, the president has completed his task, and we why will we charge it, including mr. where? the last question, are you sure that volodymyr zelenskyi is interested in having mps of the people's party of ukraine deprived of their mandates? it is a rhetorical question. he banned pro-russian parties for including to deprive of mandates, but this task is on our shoulders, my arahamia for the tropics, er, on your initiative, i think that he will sign the time, but we will wait , petro poroshenko. as far as i know, it is planned

to sign. well, he can negotiate with mr. yatrovychok, well, gentlemen. - it still looks like the mission is impossible, let's see, mr. dunda, you say that it is feasible, but let's return to this issue on our broadcast, we will report to you according to the results, the mission is just fictitious, unfortunately, that is, they just go thank you tell me thank you very much you will bring the results we are finalizing oleg hunda people's deputy of ukraine servant of the people volodymyr vyatrovych people's deputy of ukraine european solidarity we talked about how realistic but how realistic and legal it is to get rid of people's deputies from the banned party opposition platform for life mandates of people's deputies to we will return to the air on these and other topics tomorrow traditionally. i encourage you to subscribe to the

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