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the most current from franz 24 in ukrainian on espresso. i am iryna koval, mother, wife, host of the espresso tv channel. and i am also a volunteer. our soldiers at the front need a lot of things every day, and that is why of my life today - this is help to the armed forces of ukraine. did i, the author and presenter of television projects, think that i would have to understand such things as thermal imagers, generators, quadcopters, could i be a mother of three children? imagine that in the same way as knowing the principle of action of a diaper, i will understand the difference between an active and passive night vision device . did my wife know that i would buy my husband not shirts for work but berets and tactical glasses? i did not know, but since 2014 i

had to become a volunteer because on our relatives were on the front line and they needed our help. everyone of you is still needed . even a small contribution to the support of the army can help. it saves the lives of our soldiers and brings our victory closer. good day. my name is anna valevska. at this time, we are meeting with you. and this is a program of self-government, we are talking about local self-government, or i am convinced that it was the basis of local self-defense that withstood the onslaught in the first days, and that is why putin's plan kyiv failed in three days, failed precisely in the villages of the sumy chernihiv region, precisely crashed about local self-defense and defense, what was formed practically in the conditions of hostilities, because the towns and villages and their inhabitants made a decision to defend themselves, to fight and not to submit, this is the main -

the main trump card that we hold until now , which forces the whole world to count with us. today i would like to talk about a possible attack on local self-government ah hmm by the government and maybe it's not so possible it's such a wild coincidence of circumstances and it seemed so to us because, well, it can't be that vla and not herself and this very government tried to destroy because, as churchill said, what are we fighting for then, because people's rule is exactly the main feature of democracy that we now defend, for which ukrainian soldiers die in the war of democracy with autocracy, and we had such a very unfortunate incident on december 7th, i will remind the yavoriv court of lviv found the mayor of chernihiv vladyslav atroshenko guilty of masculine actions in the context of a conflict of interests. well, he deprived him of the right to hold the position of mayor. so

, there was a lot of criticism at the time. we do not say that someone there is holy and someone is sinful, but in local self-government it is arranged in such a way that people at elections give a mandate to some person to represent their rights to manage their city, hire him for a job, or can the court that the district court of lviv will decide for the citizens of chernihiv who will govern them, especially after chernihiv heroically repelled the invasion of russians and the chernihiv region. well, there is a big question here, and they must be highlighted so that the destruction of our main values ​​and achievements does not happen here under noise in our country we invited the mayor of chernihiv, vladyslav atroshenko , who was chosen by the people of chernihiv, to this conversation in order to ask about the nuances and details of this story.

the winter offensive of russia just borders both belarus and russia p. vladyslava i am glad to congratulate you good day er good day ukraine good health well let's start with this very decision of the lviv district yavorivskyi court, which was on the seventh the decision was on december 7 yes i'm a little i will remind you of the background : the national agency for the prevention of corruption accused you there of the fact that your wife crossed the border in a car that was supposed to serve the city council or a driver who worked for the city council and crossed the same the border that transported your wife. let 's start with the fact that now you are fulfilling your duties even before the appeal. now you are really

in accordance with the current legislation. there is no appeal decision, it is not mandatory to implement, that is, i work as a mayor and i would like to have a conversation not about the decision of the yavoriv court, but really this is a very dangerous president because the next decision will be is the solution of this court regarding the removal of a gardener from office or some other mayor, it is uh absolutely we uh even from the point of view of law uh we have such a loud president uh i exercise authority in the city of chernihiv according to no reason uh i don't see a meeting of the yavorivskyi court or in any other, and lawyers and lawyers are considered a serious mistake, but the issue of another life is really not on the territory

of ukraine. what, really, i personally do not like pseudo- experts. er at the end of february this year, regarding the fact that russia should explode in 2-3 weeks and we will all win there and so on, we are watching on all possible telegram channels regarding the accumulation of russian troops on the territory of belarus and russia, it acts in a 24-hour directed manner and she will advance, and this was noted by the military authority zaluzhny, who for sure did not say a word. although i understand that everything was... if he sent him to the european countries, but including that he told the pure truth. today i am let's talk about this, about the possible mood of vladislav

in turn, let's deal with the decision of this court, you are accused of a conflict of interests, you agree that an offense has taken place, but the very composition of the crime is an offense. i absolutely do not agree with the fact that we oppose it eh i eh let's say this if eh in the country eh we see positions eh regarding there eh 24-25 there 27 eh february and if it is the only official car that is now a year two cases are being considered by the dbr the case regarding the departure of my wife in a company car and a toyota company car and in the whole case dbr e considers it a violation er all that

community property is used in private villages, and accordingly it investigates all the issues there, especially how the vouchers were issued, was gasoline written off there or something else, it means accusing me of two issues in that that i hid a private car from the war in such a way that other e-e to its driver and e-e used the word driver for free as a driver.

so it is absolutely groundless, uh, i was refused uh, by customs officers, uh, well, customs officers , border guards at the border crossing already referring to this first case, so about conflict, then the driver initiated the issue of him crossing the border on his own . and we understood that he was forbidden to cross the border at the end of the pass precisely because we had the same documents that i had.

it was illogical that i would not be released and he would be released then a question arises, uh, we didn't issue any documents at all among the members, that's why he was given a ban on traveling abroad, and 40 minutes later, on his initiative, i emphasize, he went uh, to pick up how much we came, and it's not an easy road believe me, it is not easy to leave chernihiv from chernihiv to kyiv. now we are traveling for 3 hours. because the road to kyiv is quite difficult, because it is 150 km. e receives an additional premium, all the norms of action from soviet times e-e premium for cubes e-e-e, that is, if one and a half liters, the driver receives uah 200-300 less

than there 2.5 conventionally speaking e-e engine volumes and all davalka nazk, with all due respect to him, that they did not try to really insist on the driver to leave in your car was to create a precedent that i left, why don't you let him in, i didn't understand. i'm sorry, the question is , why did the driver leave in your car abroad to create a president when the shots had already started near chernihiv and she was afraid that we have our own her own car was a toyota land cruiser, she could theoretically sit down, but she doesn't know how to drive. she is afraid to drive as a woman, it's very big and positive

. the accusation that my wife left for a period and so on for another matter, then i should be given a medal, a really big one, for the fact that i saved uh, the community has passed. therefore, these are absurd things , and i want to point out that for today, uh, i believe that uh listen, give me at least one more example of the prosecution of any fan who were all directly within the firing distance of the t-72 to the city that allowed there not what was at hand and then

left wife and two children, they are 15 minutes away from us i am writing to you for the whole of ukraine, it would be the second time or the tenth time, i would have made the same decision, i didn't even hesitate, let's remember. if you russians entered the city, it was a very serious pressure point and had very serious risks and consequences for me, for the mayor, you understand i didn't have time, i was engaged in the protection of the city, of course, i was awarded by the president of ukraine, mr. vladislav, well, i agree with the fact that the family is the main button that makes officials to cooperate. what are the consequences i don't even want to think about it. we have many heads of administration in sumy oblast , for example, the sbu and the police were not there at the

time of the invasion because they were informed and relocated there. and why did you stay ? on the eve of the attack, my wife and i talked about this topic and , well, you know everything, it was a difficult conscious decision that since fate has turned out like this and i am today the leader of this community, i must, under any circumstances, stay with the community and to protect this community even to the e-e situation e in the extreme, that they will have to die, that's all, no, this is not a matter for discussion, that's why i did it absolutely deliberately, moreover, i will say that later, someday, the time will come and it will be investigated which teams were in which units, what were the forces of which, by the way, the same ones who

are investigating today these criminal cases in which they received were please tell me, when did you learn about the war, do you understand and really we did not stand the city and uh, a great merit in this the city began for me, i have an interesting moment because you had a month ago, on february 2, 22nd of the year, you had territorial defense training , territorial defense was formally created, but in fact, well, in communities , especially in small ones. well, it was on paper about weapons. i'm not talking at all, but you had training for a month, you as the mayor of the region that borders belarus and russia, when did you learn about uh, that there

would be a full-scale attack, for sure, you were informed what to do, you only discussed it with your wife we were not informed, and i will say frankly that, well, let's say that i am confident that there will be no war, it was also formed due to the comments of state officials who are young state secrets that possess intelligence data, respectively, and so on. well, the second situation, well, well, accordingly, we actually analyzed it, and we discussed it with a circle of friends, and i don’t believe in the search for what is possible . that it is or will be a demonstration what could it be? and then open or if there will be something like a real war there

and a full-scale offensive, then this is the east of ukraine and the south in the south, i understood that well, many people understood that a land border was needed where is the provision of crimea ? accordingly, we perceived it as it was presented in the media, this information and, accordingly, we are actually in the analytics, based on the sources that we had, which are all about the training, i will say that see well, well, we, er, then you've already been back, we'll return er, no actual ones training just one day, he thinks that they shot at uh with the last name in a certain place that are in the suburbs, so this is tactical training for me - it's not there, well, we were taught there how to use uh, all the special shrut from the tactical first aid kit there as far as medical tactics are concerned, there are no tactics at all

. well, we fired there, maybe with a half-decomposition, maybe with a kalashnikov assault rifle there, with single shots, some kind of, several rounds were fired at the target at a distance of 100 m and fired. i personally shot -e two two wallpapers we are with eh if this is makarova, of course it is not there 15 and 25 m or 10 and 25 m therefore, everything there cannot be called training there thank god i served in the soviet army for two years of my life, so for me there is a question of a kalashnikov assault rifle to make up how to shoot correctly there from the klimachi or from lying down or standing, these are not big questions there. maybe i was a little scornful there,

but well, that's all. it's already engraved. look, we have officially applied that we want to create 10 kg and we held a meeting and we have experience to date and i see that what are the programs and er 300 pieces that we would have time we had more than enough we applied three months ago for permission er that means they will appoint a commander to be in tv it is a person who served in the armed forces of ukraine and had all the appropriate permits that were checked there. she passed it, but there is now counting that there are accumulations that are all obviously the right things. public utilities, in fact, which they could periodically at a critical point, they can

stand up for protection and there is still time to teach them, but they register a child, what does that mean? someone believes that this is a false idea that these people are the private army of the world, and for this very reason, it means that he dragged himself honestly and in fact we understood that this is a green state proposal. we do not register dtg before yours. you do not currently have a defteg of voluntary formation . look at us. once upon a time, these were not different periods . let's get the leader up today. who doesn't know - let's note that this is a voluntary formation of a territorial community, the duties of a leader without uh, actually subordinates, some other deff uh, pensioners of the ministry of internal affairs, uh, that means, well

, they live their lives. what's the difference there if uh, uh the leadership of the armed forces of ukraine understands what they are doing here, the ftg, everything does not prevent the creation of the dfc, which we proposed from yavya, i don’t know, why would 300 devils interfere, well, in sumy there are 10 dfgs, 10 voluntary formations of a single territorial group, the city of sumy, the neighboring region of sumy, there are 10 dftg as far as i understand, today we have two e-e p vladislava. i will ask you another question. courtesy of the representative of the armed forces of ukraine but the most important thing is to conduct tactical training

so that people shoot a little half of me , we learned a little bit about sitting in a single position and in rows and keeping silent about medical behavior in case of injury, even if you don't understand what it is contained in those tactical first-aid kits. by the way, we also have tactical first-aid kits, which means that we managed to er-e, that means such humanitarian aid, and if there is no such humanitarian aid for a few weeks, we will give these tactical first-aid kits to the front lines, where there are already others formed there in tg. see e what is diphtheria? it is a voluntary formation of a united territorial community. well, now practice shows that it is

still a formation on the basis of some people who, well, something unites, accordingly, something unites the policemen who, in their time, served the attention of the national police, respectively, what unites the employees of communal services is that they know their enterprises, the territory of their enterprises, the most responsible locations, the critical infrastructures that must be protected first of all, why should you take advantage of this offer, and it will additionally teach er, their military tactics, shooting, and so on. in addition, we planned to hand out walkie-talkies so that there would be coordination between the combatants and, in addition , we have, we survived. ukraine is not the defense of ukraine, and then

it is due after the word, we can understand if there is a threat that this is my private army, then already let 's form it, and not before we say that there is a probable attack from belarus. let 's talk about how it started, but on the 24th, you then they appealed to the townspeople, by the way, the communal workers too. everyone stayed and worked just for the city during the siege of chernihiv oblast from a possible possible invasion. chernihiv did hold out and did not surrender. on the 24th, you appealed to the townspeople with a call to take up arms and go to the ranks teroboron, how did the war start for you, personal, they took weapons for me, the war started on the morning of february 24, just like for all ukrainians, but the difference is small in that in the first two hours, i already heard that means

that the deputy called home and will recover and was on the fisherman and even with his head i heard eh in the telephone receiver eh flying heliko eh the first eh in kyiv was created and he counted 15-18 there and i personally heard it further eh we contact me, i am the leader of the party of my native home - the regional one, which by the way, it took er results among regional parties in ukraine er we have 19 er members of the party who are the heads of territorial communities from five to seven, including the border ones. e monotechnics with trains with e-e gasoline trucks there with kits and so on and e-e already on the first day we e-e started

skirmishes . skirmishes are your territorial defense skirmishes on today well, i am personally a witness, so uh, how was it? these are not our boys, who were afraid of what they asked for, they were living people, so uh, they may not have been a whistleblower, they were insured according to the words, the wall is normal, such a storage means and uh- they are there, that means they, er, sometimes they started shooting prematurely there, but the russians were also ready, they gave in with their tanks and armored vehicles and fled across the fields and so

on . is common definitely, the armed forces are uh on balar, as they say in this matter, it is beyond any doubt , but it was not possible, thousands were waiting with me and today we spoke for an entire sector, very serious uh, and accordingly it was equipped with commanders who have military experience and such something else, but these were, in principle, citizens of the city, not ours, who, 240 years ago, served in the conscript army of the time of the soviet union, of course. -e we got here on

the period when we had all the numbers so uh, we received uh, about 20% 20% of the city of chernihiv well, maybe 17%, about 18%, in some places the city of chernihiv received weapons from uh, of all the weapons that were distributed throughout ukraine, in particular, the townspeople of chernihiv received 10 times more weapons than the citizens of kherson. and where did we get these weapons? i apologize. what question did you ask? where did you get the weapons? they issued e-e weapons. these are military weapons . er and all weapons to us for the current situation