the people are nobody and from nowhere, describing ortega and gazet, ortega and gasset said that back then , in the 1930s, in the book, there was a riot of the masses, that, well , before, it was somehow like that, such a particular society where everything was regulated. here are the portraits, eh regulated them regulated this world, by the way, the minister of internal affairs of the austrian empire played manfriend stadium so and so and after that, the people came and everyone spoke before, before, grafman stadium and after that, at the cafe on the map, at the cathedral, the people got to the point and broke through in 1917 year in in russia, the people roared. in the 33rd year, in germany, the people roared. somewhere in iran, in the year 79, the results and the results were

the same. that is, i am not the one who is against the people’s counter-vote, but against the voice of the crowd of the crowd, against the crowd. er, we need to look for some antidote with the voice of the american people. but it is not the people, in fact , it is not the people, it is not washington or franklin, but trump, in the american way, this is trump, and something must be done about it, it is populism. look, i would also say that this war is also to a certain extent, i agree here that this is a consequence of the first world wars, and the first world war was a consequence of the balkan wars, and the balkans were the kingdom of hungary, well, and there, yes, and the world establishment began to feel some shocks,

maybe they were seismic, not like that, they were not 9 points on the richter scale, but there are two or three, but i always give a very simple example if you live in paris and there is a coppersmith, then you earn there 7-10 thousand euros and understand a person, for example, a non-television journalist in paris earns 2,500 to live, well, it is very difficult. well, for two or three and a half thirds, it is very difficult. and here he goes out, he goes to work, he goes to work normally, he is fine, yes, yes, two eyes, 2.5-3, he is not feeling well, paris is expensive to eat , well, everything is bad, and the world has started knocking , trumps appear, brexit here and there, the magyars seem to me for some reason

china is rich in this, which is also beginning to manifest itself somehow, and i have the impression that this dissatisfaction is what putin is trying to take advantage of. we are just on the way. now the girls have changed to poland, they dug like that and after that to finland, now we are, yes, i absolutely agree, it is absolutely correct to say that we stopped under our feet in russian, he also felt this fluctuation and so at the time of the renaissance of the russian federation, in fact, the beginning of the russian empire in the full sense after the annexation of ukraine well of course, people are grain well, in short, it gave muscles, it was a ridge, and there sat on that ridge such a russian boy, and they did not pay attention to him.

the grain is such and such the road to europe is common the most important thing is the idea of ​​empire when the moscow principality or the moscow kingdom turned into the russian empire in 1721 yes yes feofan prokopovich brought it to our people our people people still had such for some reason for some reason they had e- illusions, as a result, they brought the idea itself, after that the idea began to develop thanks to the ukrainians at first, but then not only the ukrainians know how to the germans, the dutch, and as a result , they combined what in the late 19th in the 19th century, the russian empire was already mature, and they brought bread and working people, you know. but all this, of course, in st. petersburg, almost 30% were of ukrainian origin from little russia, and

40,000 cossacks were built. in fact, there are teachers in seminaries, doctors . lawyers well, that 's all, that's all. then the question is, we've groped the beginning and i want to grope the end. it 's a very difficult question for me. i'm a journalist. it 's normal. journalists either ask a question , the answer to which they know or don't know, as a rule, they know the answer to this question. i i don't know. i'm being completely honest. i'm being completely honest. it's tough. it's not like that. it's not in such an environment. it's a question. it's not for such an environment. but the russians are people or not people. it's a very simple question because we are

an idea. with lesyk podervyansky, they talked about this very thing and came to the conclusion from the first that he discovered this discovery and made that katsaps are not people and well, i treated it as a joke. and also proud i am proud and there is such a thing, you know, the self-preservation instinct does not work, the procreation instinct does not work, that is, such are the primal instincts of a person, the holasapiens, that is, i have a theory that the russians have returned to homorectus , that is, they, like us, walk straight and we if oh well, he walks straight, so he like me , but when you start to feel further, you realize that a certain number of inherent absolutely nominal human traits are simply

absent here, there is, uh, really a human race in the biological sense of the word, or people from papua new guinea or from ukraine or there from nicaragua belongs to one of the same species, but there are cultural cultural paradigms in which we exist, which means that for the people of papua new guinea, one paradigm is the second, for the ukrainians, and for some people in nicaragua, there is probably a third one. and besides all this this means that this cultural paradigm assumes certain values. well, everyone has already talked about it. well, don't kill. for a person from papua new guinea, there is no such thing as a maxim of don't kill, or a maxim like the decalogue, which is also moses's, so don't kill, let's hope we don't fulfill it. so on and so on, they don't live in those paradigms well let's accept that the russians also

have those 10-10 uh-e problems somewhere yes yes 10 presented to them yes yes that means they supposedly lived with them but on the other hand sometimes some peoples who even do they live in these paradigms fall into mass psychosis or are there such mental epidemics in the 33rd year germany yes the country of goethe the country there is the super final of beethoven henry helikarni all of them yes and suddenly an educated not only an educated people who knew how to write knew how to do it no no no such illiterate people absolutely no fall into mass psychosis is this mental epidemic, that's how the epidemic of e-e covid was, just like the mental eyes, that's the deviations that dominate these people, third people, in this case, if a third genius psychologist, a genius

third person was sitting here and we would ask, she would prove to us what it is the norm too well, it's a distorted temporary but norm of behavior, that is, the incentive, that is, you can meet any nation with such a thing , absolutely any nation, not only that when you talk about the word norm, then uh, um, pilatz asked jesus christ and what is the truth that is, the norm, that is, in this question, the answer was that there was no truth as such for him for pilate, but for christ it was crystal, this decalogue is love and citrara, and for a roman, for a roman, what are the 10 commandments, what is the commandment not to kill for a roman soldier? well, yes and no. adultery of actions also somehow sounds strange, in general, completely wild, mr. taras, will humanity always get out of the way until now, thanks to europe, i have such a

suspicion that europeans were invented by god as people who constantly challenge him and respond to these challenges, they always come up with ways to get out of the situation, no matter how difficult the situations, the europeans always came out now, the sick person of the world is russia , do you think they will find a medicine to make this russia healthy, to somehow revive it in the normal sense of the word ? no, how? if they don't find it, they will all die. no, that's what the ottoman empire is like. well, they didn't find a cure and she died, but there was one handsome lung with a mustache, which is specifically kemal atatürk, the father of the turks. that is, they

found themselves from the inside, and this is an important moment today's discussion, what could be? so it's putin, it's someone near putin, it's the first circle, it's the third circle. is it external influences because kemalya is a turk, not only because he understood something ? and so this means that these are internal forces, which means that someone in the kremlin, whom we may not know, should start some reforms after realizing that the fate of russia is disintegration, such a simple word, i pronounce it and imagine a russian after the word russia's fate is disintegration you need to take a gun and shoot no, you really need to repeat what mustafa kemal did, what he did, the father of the turks, who is not a turk , the mother is macedonian, the father is not a jew from thessaloniki, or

something like that but nevertheless, he did the feat of munchausen, he pulled turkey out of the swamp by this pigtail, that is the russians must become a people, the russians have not become a people until now, well, that is, a people, and like the turks, how are they captured territories and get rid of the excess that does not allow them to develop? well, there is the unfortunate chechnya, which is tormented there, they are already killing what a decade, why does russia have it at all ? well, south ossetia doesn’t need it. well, in bottomless ossetia, it’s just some babushka who sells brooms somewhere in rybinsk, somewhere on the volga. well, without south ossetia, she ’ll die, she’ll just die, she won’t sleep at night. why? it's idiocy to me, we are like that sometimes you have to give up, at one time the poles went

through it, many peoples crossed over when the prince said that vilnius and that part of the circle i will liberate is lithuania, and lviv and galicia and volyn are ukraine of polish people who had some resentment towards such a poland, at least between the wars. it was a shock and so on, but as a result, poland found itself, poland became a single nation, mr. taras, but then it is some kind of pattern, that is, if someone did not want to , there would be a movement in russia that would rely to some idea of ​​some person who will say listen to us or survive alone in the world as russians as russians are not russians in the russian version but russians are there or not then we are drowning all of them must invent their

russian people create combine it like this how did the new polish people combine after the war, when a lot of people left here from volyn, from galicia, people left because of stalin's decisions, without questionably bloody and not unfair but nevertheless , and as a result, a people was composed that became successful in noticing how much poland is now successful, imagine if there were another 7 million ukrainians, belarusians, and lithuanians, the complexity, well, it's interesting, it's interesting, it's one thing, but it's just that when we, when you said, you give yourself, it's so complicated, it's an extremely complicated story, why, because my friends, my colleagues found me erzya in the ukrainian army literally last week, some of these people are engaged in uh, if we could

say, in the reproduction of these peoples in the volga, and he is absolutely serious, i say no, no , that's where students go to clubs to learn the language, to reproduce it. he says this is absolutely not massive, but then if we, if we already take elsa, then we are russians. it will be difficult to find elsa there, because if i say no, we are not russian. look, where is russia? it is not our problem, in fact, they are to blame. to do today, we need to find ourselves and ourselves, and we behave ourselves. by the way, this also applies to the current ukraine. so, in the situation of this war, 90,000 went to the united states, there are refugees, and so on. these are the people who always dreamed, most of them some of them always dreamed of becoming americans, they didn’t want to. well

, it’s not that they passively or unwillingly chose to participate in the creation of the ukrainian world and the ukrainian political project and the current ukrainian political nation. but someone came to ukraine and began to participation in the creation of the newest ukrainianism from the fact that what is going on, someone went to russia, not all of them were deported, some of them went , this is what their heart is, they want to be in russia, there are no questions let go of what is not yours, what is yours, it will return, someone went to germany, someone to poland someone will stay somewhere a lot, a lot, on the one hand, it must be a tragedy or as if forced, but on the other hand, someone will stay in the czech republic or somewhere else, i don’t know, in croatia, let’s let others come here, maybe from uzbekistan perhaps from the organization, by the way, i think that

it is russia and from the same russia here . the people never stop their creativity. now the french are in france. there are 7 million or so many people of arab origin. an organism that is endlessly created. simply, if, if, this, this people is not able to preserve its identity, despite everything that comes, new blood leaves , well, all sorts of different things, then it disappears, it still knows, it simply dissolves, and there are some healthy ones there are healthy americans there, there are so many people of different blood coming to america, a lot of masendas but nevertheless , america remains america, but the power of taras we taras, we just talked about this here, now there is also such a discussion, maybe there is such a thing under the carpet, uh, there are people who say

how are you? by the way, just forget about russia . there is actually such a slogan . russia because it is alive, our grief feeds russia that's how and when suddenly we stop talking about it at all and mentioned there is no such phenomenon in the world as in russia there is no such history of language further further russia will die because it feeds on our energy and negativity today and yesterday, polish, as you said , and so on. so, the second one says, the others say that no, he can’t forget, they are around, they will always spoil the mood, and so on, that is, what would you, what would you think about these rumors away from moscow, is it possible may be

the nation or the intellectual part of the ukrainian nation to forget about russia, can we afford it now, yes, there is no such thing. i understand that these are the best medicines, but they are so bitter that i am not convinced that anyone would want to use them. there are two approaches here. we have hungary, but we are spiritually, well, we are, if you name two hungarian poets of the petefi genre. no, this is the end of the list, the list has ended . diverge or have comrades

or the spouses are breaking up and let go and this moment of cooling can be let go, but you can’t no. it’s possible, i’m saying. because on the one hand, everything has separated, but still some threads are left. you will still know, but we know that hungary is we we know that there is the united states, but we don't have a cheaper heart-to-heart one artery, we don't have one with them, so with russia, we just have to let go, give them freedom in an emotional sense. i understand that there are generations for whom there is no doubt onegin there in the fifties to me i liked this beautiful slogan, you said give freedom to russia. okay, i love it. i let it go. yes, yes, then we went to ukraine, and ukraine is definitely more interesting for us, and great times give great politicians. this is about

zelensky . that zelensky was not the way we see him, the leader of the nation, the leader of the world. i would say that despite different attitudes towards him, he is now the leader of the democratic world. well, of course, every person is a hostage, and even more so a person on such uh well, yes, in such a wistra, not even in a state position in a wistra, not in the historical historical development of the historical process, suddenly you find yourself and suddenly you look here an abyss here an abyss and you did not even want to i think that he did not he really wanted to be there, but he didn’t really want to be there, but it’s interesting, it happened, but it’s interesting. well, let’s talk about how much of our own, when did it start? my wife told me that she was acquainted with someone who

was familiar with zelensky, and he said, “no, he won’t back down .” when everyone was convinced that he will flee and i will not name names, but 90% of ukrainian politicians will be fugitives on pecherskyi vorov because they are in the paradigm of such normal actions. i think that 103% 103 i can be yes. that's you here, you gave me a run-in, and i'm a guy , that's all. and all of them started. and what do you say , thatcher? and what do you say? and what's written in the book? and what 's there? and where ? i don't know such a world, i would rather think that and what would thatcher think, to be honest but they are all because i remember the 14th year from

reliable, super reliable sources that all of europe said listen, sit down, we were treated like small children and such boys, well, we decided no, they themselves love people like children, but they became us like to the third world well, yes, something like that, but it can be such children who have become homogenous, so they say only here, and so maybe we here are serious uncles, they solve everything here, that’s exactly how adults should solve adult problems, so they just didn’t give it. that is, it’s just there held hands for feet that we are quiet there, but vysotsky has such a famous song in the present there should have been no rioters, but here and there a rioter and everything goes nothing. on the other hand, uh, if not according to

vysotsky . only zelenskyi without a doubt zelenskyi - this is a consequence, he is in fact zelenskyi hostage to the situation, this is all clear, but the courage of the ukrainian army, the ukrainian society, the society that we have, unlike russia or the ukrainian people . gave birth to or allowed to be brave macron shol and on and on parents here another biden by biden etciteration we allowed them we gave them a chance to be brave if ukraine failed what in afghanistan they would be the same military schools and we were sitting somewhere under putin's broom well yes well i calculated putin, for example, i don’t know how you relate to this theory. i absolutely

imagine putin to myself as such a transitional fertile age to the fertile age of a child like this, well, 14 there, 15 was visible when he last went out with that glass, boy why is he not from the peasants, but specifically yes, yes , not the first, not the first, the second, the third. khreshchatyk i am the troops and who will say what biden will say something when the matter is already over and i

just think to myself that he is not what he dreamed he was clouding he saw it he saw chestnuts as chestnuts the car and the faithful ukrainian people are inclined i go everywhere that this is 50 %. further there was intelligence, international relations , relations with america, with china, behind india, from europe, but these in a row, well, something, something, something, something, some kind of ideological basis was there. well, he was reading ilyina yes, uh, but that’s when he reads when he reads ilyina’s profession and when he reads ilyina’s boss well, the bastard reads in his own optics and each text can be read in different optics yes and you read dotted read like this no well , at that age he wouldn't read a rough book to read at that age being the president finger here finger here that's all

good i understood everything i understood everything i already understood this book, that's one thing they will ask, but the second thing that really moved him is that putin has absolutely nothing to do with russia or ukraine. putin, well, his life biography is somewhere there and in germany from st - st. petersburg back and forth, he has never been to ukraine or ukraine, and this and all and everything and all the depression of the situation in ukraine for russia, he does not realize it at all, well, you, for sure, we would talk to him, he would, well , they are some kind of no no understood he does not read no understands, and therefore for them, of course, this is an absolute well, not a surprise, but just a catastrophe with the price, so with this whole zapadlov ukrainian army, which had to steal everything, just like theirs, which had to sell all the mortars right away, it means to their vans. well, for some money there, this is moonshine fat well, they

counted on this one well, mr. taras, well, i will. well, what are intellectuals portrayed here? i will suspect ukrainians. and well, for example, i will start to suspect myself. i was also convinced that in three days i was also convinced absolutely not i was convinced, but denmark also says with me in the same house, i am convinced that on the contrary she says yes- tatu yes, let's fight back and win. and i say, where is the russian tank right now, but just here , a russian will appear on the corner, this struck me so much that i was afraid. understood that i was there, then he told me that someone was on the list for destruction, but i was afraid and but i was afraid, i sat in kyiv like an idiot and i was convinced that they would come, well, i think that the mood is me, i don't know, i just think that i think

that there was a very serious situation on the 24th the previous day, the biggest expectation, the biggest calculation was that putin is a rational person, but he turned out to be an irrational person, that is, there are no arguments why these russian generals are there, even from the general staff, so they were opponents of this adventure in ukraine because they thought rationally. this type of people like, er, hitler or putin, despite their seemingly calculating nature, they have some kind of switch that switches and they act irrationally in this in some cases, putin made an irrational step and lost. it can be done. napoleon said the main thing is to tie it up. after that, we will see , but it was napoleon. where is napoleon? putin,

yes, this is such a philosophy, or they continued about it. i will not convince you that everything will be interesting for our, our, to our viewers let's return to ukraine with less, because we are always within such borders of russia ukraine russia ukraine russia is there any danger because we go through fire and water and after victory it knocks on wood and for good reason i knock this time so and so 19 article, such a tree is beautiful, but copper pipes are ahead, what will the ukrainian nation, the ukrainian people, overcome copper pipes, because i imagine pride in the event of a victory over russia, it was like that hello, what will you give me some advice hello, pride breathes - this is