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the sky is in tanks, now they are warming up in an abandoned house , they are in the song. there is a trophy specimen from the russians, and it just lay there like that, the infantry came up, i’m just not a minister, it’s sex. hares were shot at hares almost in the mykolaiv region there is no such good work in the mykolaiv region they liberated it they liberated kherson and now together with their masters they will go further to knock out the occupier from our land commander palchenko of his company carefully loads equipment that is twice as old as they are, they protect each tank like a faithful friend, we know this machine very well, it has never let me down, he noted at the beginning of the war, it never even broke down after the release
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, i managed to find a shrapnel hit under the already released chernobayva and the engine, the transmission department, and the breakup. and why did i go to kherson, where it all began? he knows exactly what is behind the words. kherson is ukraine. the price is high. the song remembers and promises with his signature smile. the iron fist of the armed forces killed him. the enemy and from other towns of the village natalya yarmova oleksandr shiyan oleksandr lipanov tsn 1+1 marathon only news this is a story about he became nep steel will and character hardened in the sacred fire this is my story cool
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sweat and hot tears about the heart that remains alive about the soul that was born the free history of my earth where the new destiny of an indomitable country is being forged metal in my hands and in the bodies of my enemies in the voice that promises us victory together we make this world stronger ukrainians a nation of steel people each embroidered symbol indomitability and revival of ukraine, we will heal our councils, we will decorate the scars with flowers, ukrainian destiny will bloom again, like poppies in the field, ukraine will embroider the renaissance, strong, unbreakable,
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has completely changed its attitude towards ukraine and russia, in fact a thirty-year history of relations since the collapse of the ussr, they crossed out russia is now an open enemy ukraine friend, partner and reliable protection from russia but how and why is the european view of all these things transformed let's talk today in the evening meal oleksandr shcherba ukrainian diplomat ambassador on special assignment of the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine thank you for visiting who recently returned just before the ministry of foreign affairs , and i think that this is good news for the ministry of foreign affairs and for ukraine. thank you for inviting mr. oleksandr. i immediately want to ask a question in the context of our stated topic. i talked recently with my friends who live in
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germany and they frankly shocked me with the news that in germany they started testing air alarms, they started testing applications that we have, like the dsns applications that sent alarm messages and in german cities siren sounds to people they say that you should keep a supply of food and water at home because there is a possible development of events in the direction that you will need all of this and here are my friends they tell me that well we are ready for this yes we accept it it's normal, but we really like it it is interesting to follow the reaction of ordinary germans , for whom they are very serious about this , they stop and start to think about the fact that what is it that everything is really, how much do europeans at such a household level, in your opinion,
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are impressed by the events taking place in ukraine to what extent do they objectively realize what is happening here? you know. i wrote an article a couple of weeks ago called the end of the age of pink clouds, but in europe, the end of the age of pink clouds , they lived on a pink cloud thinking that for the 21st century has come to everyone, i think that uh, we live in a time when any problems can be solved through diplomacy through goodwill, and now, in principle, it was, of course, an absolute shock, well, we now live in an era when people read newspapers as much as they look at twitter and they watch the news on television and these shots of this absolutely brutal war with which russia came to us. they changed their attitude, not declarations, not statements , not words
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, they saw. they remembered us, that's why the english are so attached to us, well, the germans are attached to us, in general, they are, in principle, how many 75 years ago ukraine was destroyed, they remembered something from fit-fi in them, some kind of echo took place in the heart, that's why yes, europe has changed and europe is waking up at the everyday level, including but i remember the interview that mrs. merkel, the former chancellor of germany, recently gave regarding what is happening. the thing is that the minsk agreements, to which ukraine has been pushed for years, in particular by german politicians , were in fact nothing more than an opportunity to give ukraine time to prepare for
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such a brutal confrontation, which is taking place starting from february 24, i can tell you exactly what it is said the minsk agreements of 2014 were an attempt to give time to ukraine , she also used this time to become stronger. as you can see today, ukraine of 2014-15 is not ukraine today and i very much doubt that nato countries could have done as much then as now they are doing to help ukraine, this is an attempt. by the way, these words greatly infuriated mr. putin, he expressed himself in the way that we thought, we believed, it means that ukraine is inclined to reconcile with us, but they turn out to be singing, they just threw it. sorry for the jargon, but this is russian jargon and in general, we should have attacked ukraine earlier. that's the story. i just don't think that mrs. merkel's statement is sincere enough. to be honest, it seems to me that this is
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an attempt to save her own reputation as a politician , because now being putin is cheese in today's world. it is a bit of a shame for germany in general in modern europe and mrs. merkel, even though she is already in political retirement, is still trying to somehow correct her own image. am i right or maybe i am wrong and it was really a cunning plan? well, to me it also looks like an attempt to adapt to the new trends and realities of the information space in europe to the task for the answer so to speak, well definitely this is already such an attempt to make excuses unfortunately, ms. merkel, who for me was, in principle, an example of such a moral politician who is the most an influential woman from outside the world who travels, flies, er, on vacation on budget airlines, who, well, devoted herself essentially to serving her nation without doing any er, things there behind the
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scenes, for example, i really liked it, i er, even wrote about it, but now, to be honest, it's a big disappointment that ah, in that day and age, when all europeans say we were wrong, we did something wrong. mrs. merkel says that it was actually a cunning plan. well, then we must agree that it was also a cunning plan for putin to spread his tentacles in donetsk luhansk in the crimea to gain a foothold there, then it is necessary to agree that at the time when it allegedly gave ukraine the opportunity to prepare and it was filling the russian budget with simply incredible amounts of money for the preparation of this war , including through such projects as nor stream-de-nor stream 2 she gave russia the confidence that well, just like in
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the 14th year just like in 2008, friends will get away with everything, everything will be forgiven because yes, and to be honest, very, very strongly er-e answered her one of so to speak, the old-timers of vaxokali v of german politics voldenshoy fucking former e-e head of a couple of the bundestag former minister of finance who has been in the bundestag for 40 years is really just one of these dinosaurs of german politics he said let's be frank merstream one nostrium 2 mistake the decision to accept so-called refugees in germany in 2015 in an unlimited the number of so-called and not-so-called is a mistake, er, the whole policy regarding putin is a mistake. yes, mrs. merkel, you had extremely great achievements, but let's not be ashamed and say that more than us especially since she is the daughter of a pastor
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, it should be easy for her to say i'm sorry to say i prayed but for some reason it does n't work and by the way, in addition to the politicians you mentioned, there is also the president of germany, the federal president, frank alter, the barbell, mayer kyik he also simply changed his rhetoric and says now completely opposite things because he was still speaking literally recently we all remember him because of this infamous steinmeier plan which we perceived in a different way as an attempt to such a slow capitulation of ukraine of its sovereignty piece by piece in exchange for a temporary truce, which everyone understood would not last because putin would go on and on and on like this from biting ukraine piece by piece, piece by piece , now the french welterweight steinmeier came to ukraine and spent two hours in chernihiv in chernihiv in a bomb shelter he came with the people and gave a simply amazing speech in which he admitted all these mistakes, he didn't say sorry
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, but he said that russia injects poison into our hearts and we don't have to, we have to do something against it, he was just really scared he really said some things that are so radical for a german politician, what happened to them, why such a sharp change in rhetoric? in germany, mr. melnyk launched a picture with a snail that carries a cartridge that is glued to its shell, without thus demonstrating german help, now everything is much better and mr. scholz also makes statements at every step that russia should be punished punished for their aggression there should be responsibility ah why such a sharp break has happened in their minds now that even the united states of america looks
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less determined than the germans now well the answer is just shock shock because well the feeling is that you know every year in may months in austria it was may 5th, the day of the liberation of the mauthaus, in germany it was may 8-9th, the day of the signing of the surrender they all gathered they all said the traditional words never again never again nevergane and here suddenly it happened that's what happened happened came again, here are these pictures that europe knows from the second world war, that's why he thinks that steinmeier doesn't have it easy. of course, it was unusually moving photos . ukrainians love him for such humanity, and
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the germans love him for it. as far as i know, it is also known that he gave a kidney to his wife after the operation, she needed a transplant of such an organ. he gave his kidney to his wife. and how can this insight change today, in general, the format of the existence of the european union and the processes that take place inside it. i want to remind you of the october speech of the head of european diplomacy , jose poborel. what a speech he made. in my opinion, it most demonstrates the awareness and change of trends in the general self-understanding of europeans, and he frankly speaks about a false in recent decades, he has been criticizing eu policy for energy dependence on russia, that is, he is talking about what europe was built on and energy from russia, goods from china, security factor the united states and what were we doing and where are the europeans? and what would have happened on the european continent if the united states had not been so determined
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to help ukraine so that we could offer ukraine separately as a european union and almost nothing and it opens the eyes of all europeans that europe has turned into such a really old lady who is being fed with something from all sides, russia with oil and gas and china with goods, the united states as a security factor, and they sit and hold on to these very artificial entities recognition of fallibility at all levels a-a recent recent years recent decades what can this lead to this is an eye-opening to what friends and you are sorry except for your e-e such a loud name we are the european union you can't do anything on your own ani in safety ani in energy, or in the production of goods to reality. who are you? and the self-awareness
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of this format of existence. what can it lead to? how can europe change? a symbol, but it does not exactly reflect what is happening in europe, the processes that are happening now, well, this is by european standards, it is, well, it is a very high speed, and german weapons in ukraine, unfortunately, or even tanks, but still cheetahs, after all already irises well, this was a year ago, it was completely unthinkable, absolutely unthinkable, such a performance by borel, such a review, well, these are absolutely sincere words, these are not the ramblings that they spoke during years of work. europe is completely different, and i know when i started my work in diplomacy in the 90s x years so, for example, well, ot
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it was believed that one of the pillars of modern europe is, in addition to the german-french partnership, also the german-polish-polish partnership, then somewhere it was forgotten, this pillar suddenly disappeared. and this week, andrzej duda went to berlin, and it began to sound again precisely under the influence of ukraine. pain , her struggle, her strength, somehow, in europe, she reinvents herself and it's extraordinary, well, it's just hypnotizing when you see, when you look, and here when you understand that these are exactly our soldiers , our people themselves well, they led to the fact that this is europe europe has woken up. here she is. europe has remembered that she is the same, she is not just an old lady. and what is she? well, really, this is a flag that can change reality and the world, but where to find the tools and
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how to change it in practice, the energy dependence on russia, yes, angela merkel closed nuclear power plants in germany there was a very popular trend of green energy, which turned out to be more of a populist project than a practical one, because this energy was not enough for commodity dependence on china, because there the cost of production of german goods is so low european children can no longer buy them, how to practically solve the question of whether this will lead to the strengthening of complex processes inside europe, the same there, the rise in prices due to the discontent of the population, some kind of unemployment, to those processes that may appear after the rejection of chinese goods you know, we love russian energy. a little bit like that, and i like to
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joke a little. principles and moral leaders, it found its own therefore, in principle, it is a huge power, it is a huge economy, it is based on the population. well, it is more than a union. it is also common in the states. this is a bit of a superior attitude towards europe. it is a bit ironic from europe. and when i came to the constitution as an ambassador in austria, i came with a bit of this superior attitude. it quickly got away from me. i saw how much a huge force, and if this force is on our side, if this force under our influence becomes er,
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another, more convincing er, then in principle, in essence, we become an integral part of europe , we become not now when we declared our desire, but then when europe felt us , it started right now. that's why we have to absolutely believe in this power. in the end, it was europe that became the impetus for the euromaidan , which was called the euromaidan, in which place, because now they are beginning to realize that it had even more importance than at that moment of its practically support because when ukraine announced that it was choosing the european path , it announced it first not with the voice of officials, but with the voice of ordinary people who went to the maidan and europe then realized that they would have to do something about it whether they wanted it or not such influenced the fact that now ukraine should join this family and they just need to give an answer to this,
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not then. she understood. in the 14th year, they did not understand anything, they thought they had such a feeling that these russians are strange, these are strange the ukrainians, er, somehow, the ukrainians did not explain something, the russians misunderstood something, but in principle, they are part of the same space and we are all part of the european space , someday, somehow, we will overcome these differences and there will be europe from vancouver to europe, from there to brest where's the french a-ah and only now is a sense of reality appearing, i'm only now feeling that ukraine is an outpost on which a lot depends, that's why i don't know, i'm looking at my beloved austria, you know, i see how this week austria is accepted the resolution condemning the holodomor, they have not yet
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called the holodomor a genocide, but they have already called it a terrible crime. stalin, well, a year ago, again, this could not have happened, it could not have been, somehow, she played along with putin in the political arena, well, one of those who played along the most. i i remember. that's how she stayed. unfortunately, for now, but we'll talk about it separately, and i want to mention this minister of foreign affairs, who you probably remember, how she danced with putin at her own wedding, what happened to all this, what happened to austria, well austria you understand she is the only one. well, switzerland is the only country in the european union that absolutely believes in neutrality. neutrality is the secret of happiness in life. we are nobody's business and nobody touches us. you ukrainians should understand this, don't mess with russia. then you have everything. it will also be very good. that was the resignation, you
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understand. in austria, the national holiday is on independence day, it is on victory day, not the day of the end of the national socialist dictatorship . it's a pity that sometimes she is a little bit for us and we rightly consider her sometimes hypocritical because well, what kind of neutrality is it if austria among the top ten suppliers acquired military equipment for russia, then that's a little bit like that for me, and about the wedding well, what was there eh this minister is absolutely like that, certainly a strange person who was not accepted. by the way, neither in austrian politics nor in austrian diplomacy, but for a certain
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time she became such a phenomenon that many depended on . i will never forget my meeting with her in march of 18 er, in principle, there is a lot it rarely happens that the minister of foreign affairs invites the ambassador there for a conversation, he was not so enthusiastic, he came to buy projects and it was a very offensive meeting, so very, very rude, i would say. they are like that, the nation is mozart, so on, i said in luhansk before the occupation there was an orchestra under the direction of an austrian, a beautiful orchestra , night form. when the russians came, the orchestra was split into two parts, i say let's go let's invite these musicians from one side to the other to vienna and let them hold one concert and play together again one evening without
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this occupation without all this and the answer was n ambassador if you have the money to hold this orchestra eh finance it better eh -e heating for this orchestra during the winter well, she is so very kind of superficial and the whole conversation has been about this until now. thank god that she left the political diplomatic olympus quite quickly, and now you see the day before yesterday or when two days ago... e tweeted that she is located in moscow well, what can you expect from this person, a package of sanctions. by the way, it prohibits european politicians from joining any e-companies and so on. affiliates are affiliated even with russia because they are, not to mention, e-e 100% russian companies. and this is one of such points that i had to write down for people like this lady, for people like mr. shirioder and other friends of putin, how many of them are terribly
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upset about this, it is considered terrible. it is just such an injustice, it is an injustice, but you see, it works yes yes i want to return again to borel's speech, he had a very interesting thesis that right-wing radical sentiments are intensifying in europe and right-wing parties, unfortunately, receive a lot of support from the citizens of the european union, and the recent events in germany, when were there any incomprehensible or attempts or something more like a pr story about the storming of the bundestag, a possible storming of the bundestag, what was the mutiny, let's explain the actual context for our viewers, yes, there was some kind of mutiny in which some, well, some strange people, we did it among ourselves we call the beer way just a joke, of course it's not him and he he, they allegedly even had the goal of killing mr. scholz , the current chancellor of germany, but they did n't succeed, and behind all this somehow the
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kremlin's ears are strangely sticking out, well, at least that's what it seems, or is it true what will we ask umanda's address , he is already with us on the link to the stockholm center for the study of eastern europe, we will try to find out how much everything was really there and whether there really is such a trend of right-wing radicalization in the european union. who is behind it, or could it be russia and what it can lead to, congratulations, mr. andres, to our broadcast, congratulations. thank you very much for the invitation, so you heard our introduction to your inclusion, i want to ask, what, finally, did we figure out what really happened in germany with this attempt to storm the bundestag, who is behind it is it really such a real event and more real than a media virtual one? well, i guess i have to say that there wasn’t such an assault or something like that, it’s just hm, well, the group is
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not even a party of the so-called rise buggers or imperial citizens who think that she is old the german empire still exists and those who do not recognize the federal republic of germany, well, i would say that these are local crazy people. that is, it is a slightly different phenomenon than what we saw in washington when there was this storm, the chapter was also crazy there, of course, but there is this radical right. they had a radical connection with the republican party and even with trump, and there was some kind of alliance between these we are glad kalami on the one hand and the political mainstream on the other hand, and
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there was no such thing in germany. this is really marginal marginal people, etc. i don't think it's necessary to magnify this incident, well, this is happening, it was a shock for germany, what could it be, but on the other hand, well, it's not, i would say, not quite a political phenomenon. it's just such a marginal, rather subcultural phenomenon, but about what borel said that what i will quote is that at the same time a radical trial is taking place in our countries, the extreme right is getting stronger and this is the people's choice, and how true is it and how threatening is it, or is it within the limits of such a normal democracy in europe, well now indeed such a wave, the new wave is the right of radicalism and these parties even sometimes
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