and so hyundai made a bad tank in the first line of tanks of the fourth generation, there are also abrams and k2 or opards second and israeli merkava, that is, these are very good tanks, the poles will buy them ah, i think most likely these leopards are second to them 40 years, but with a good body kit, they can share it with us, and that’s when the whole idea of ​​our partners is clear. the transmission, including the american bradley fighting vehicle and the german mardar, is just very good, so to speak, parallel. supply with tanks, of course, seven bmps, they work very well, precisely in the offensive, attack us, the last question and the answer, please, is very short. because we have

the next guest. that there are these crowds of people bringing these triangles and trenches and how the russians are preparing and there a-a on the left bank of the dnieper and in the crimea and near the crimea to what extent can all these fortifications slow down the advance of such armed forces that are armed you say that if there is nothing more to support them, they can definitely stop it, at least it will slow down, but not only tanks , not only bmps, not only armored vehicles are transferred, they are transferred to a certain system, er, high-precision artillery systems are increasing, their number of missile systems are transferred, er, very good rockets and most likely they will be suspended either by our aircraft or by a

hovercraft . of mechanized brigades, a certain gap will be penetrated with the help of aviation, with the help of artillery, including because it is no longer important that the russians did not come up with a fatification system, they already do not work now in this 1000th anniversary, this is not the second world war. thank you, mr. roman roman svitan, military expert, colonel of the reserve of the armed forces of ukraine, a military pilot-instructor was in touch with us, we are moving to diplomacy, as i promised, the director of the kyiv security forum, danylo lubkivskyi , a diplomat, is in touch with us good health mr. danylo, it’s nice to see you, christ was born, let’s celebrate him and happy holidays to you and all the viewers and your relatives, everyone look at it from

the point of view of such an uh. and i would say classic diplomacy. very often i just complain when i read ukrainian experts and not only experts, the audience complains to the jews now to the state of israel that they are conducting some kind of negotiations there with the russian ministry of foreign affairs, they say the same thing, erdoğan is negotiating something there, my position is that i am not a diplomat and not an expert, i just work as a journalist well, that's how it should be there is no unanimity in the world, some through diplomacy, some through military aid, some by sending money, financial aid, some by moral aid, some by other help, i do not believe that the state of israel, if it works on the side of the russian federation, they have their own interests there are gray with the russians, they are trying there agree on the syrian issue

and so on on the iranian issue. well, what do you say? yes, it is necessary to shout treason, treason and run to the israeli embassy with protests. thank you for this question, because it is of interest to many people. and it seems to me that your approach , which you mentioned, is absolutely correct and it is just a common sense approach. pressure on russia, that is, what is happening on the front, what is happening in diplomatic activities, pressure in the form of sanctions from the west, assistance to ukraine from our allies, military, financial, and so on, that is, a plus in everything that undermines opportunities russia is also all that we need, there is no doubt that such pressure is also the diplomatic

pressure to which certain international figures resort because there is no vacuum in international relations and, accordingly, it is necessary to put pressure on moscow, and they are trying to play this role in one way or another play various actors, including as you mentioned with the president of turkey erdogan , the only thing here is a nuance that must be taken into account, and this is of course the important role of ukrainian diplomacy in introducing such a direct and trusting and transparent dialogue with our allies when we talk about the fact that the dialogue with russia should take place on the basis of pressure and not on the basis of taking into account their er wishes or even more so reconciling with the aggressor regarding the israeli case, then of course the line that er in at least there are hints the fact that i can choose

their government causes serious concern, eh, israel's dialogue with lavrov or with putin's regime of war criminals, eh, eh, this dialogue cannot be viewed in the same traditions as how it happened before, no business eh more those in israel need to be reminded that russia is very actively interacting with israel's main adversary, iran. and what is the price of those military supplies that are once carried out at least yes, we know from many sources that they are carried out to russia eh, then the question should be asked, what will be the security consequences i see this message as a conversation with lavrov with this last scoundrel about the fact that they say that it is necessary to conduct such a dialogue and look for some

results i think that such an approach exists quite whimsical. in this way, one should separate the topic of pressure, the topic of forcing the aggressor to peace, forcing the aggressor to release the temporarily occupied ukrainian territories, and a dialogue that resembles the dialogue of traditional conventional diplomatic means, saying, well, the world is wide, big, let's news from of course, there can be no conversation with the russians, no conversation in the diplomatic sense with the russians. relations between israel and moscow, because israel and moscow already have specific relations with iran. i absolutely cannot imagine

the state of israel, which will forget, as you said, the main enemy of israel, or vice versa, the main enemy and wound, that is i can't understand israel even in such a structure. what can be the only thing that can? well, judge me and i think that the conversation could have revolved around the fact that return your troops to syria, says the foreign ministers of israel and russia minister lavrov, because after your troops left, iran came to replace them, and it is in danger, this does not make our existence dangerous, and we have to keep a big bunch of eyes and weapons and intelligence and so on there, and if you return, then we it will be calmer

, we will understand that we do not feel any danger from you. here, i can imagine such a conversation, i can't imagine another conversation. well, you, let's get dirty for us, we don't see that you are friends with siran, don't give a damn about iran, we care about him not let's see. we are not afraid of the nuclear program and the wound. we live peacefully . just hope and calm yourself down, you need to understand that in the current configuration , very whimsical alliances can arise, even if they are situational in international relations, this happens more than once, and that's why when we talk about relations between ukraine and israel and ukraine and russia of course we

speak very directly and frankly about the arguments you said, we should talk about the arguments you said and what's more, i remember or shall we say frankly about the ancient tradition of relations between netanyahu and putin in their long-standing dialogue uh, we need to act with our israeli colleagues the fight against the russian aggressor, as far as whimsical alliances, situational alliances are concerned, er, er, i emphasize once again that there are many of them in the history of international relations, and not only in history, but let's look at what is happening with hungarian prime minister orbán and his very controversial and

in fact humiliating for hungary statements that it is necessary to maintain a separate track of relations with russia, that it is possible, that they say, this is exactly how one should respond to the challenges posed to the world system before the west , that europe is said to have some special as a rule, the path to such conversations will open up very pragmatic and cynical calculations, unfortunately very often these calculations are populist, which harm collective interests, if it concerned purely hungary or purely some other state in some narrow local affairs. okay, but if we are talking about the issue of life and death, when it comes to the issue of pjsc, such a large-scale aggression as against ukraine, but in fact against civilized international relations and the world system, then, in my opinion, tactical flirting cannot be our business

diplomacy is to constantly remind our partners to remind our colleagues, and if we see that this line is not happening, then don't be ashamed . to half-empty, because i always say, well, god forbid that there is only one hungary in all of nato, and from that. and if there were two hungarys or three hungarys, imagine even though i absolutely agree with your comments about hungary's behavior, but imagine what there will be three countries or four, it will be much worse, but considering pluralism, well, let there be one hungary, let's pray that it will remain there alone, er, and fight, of course , not to fold our hands, but to be happy that there are not two of them, not three to four, but my question is another pseudo-diplomatic one and this is not based on knowledge or

feeling, because in diplomacy there are very often such concepts as the feeling that he just had. tanks, what do you say now, america, now europe, france, germany, and finland, poland, they are already hinting at the possibility of supplying us with heavy offensive weapons, the americans have already said about light, so this is some kind of sign for a diplomat, if you were sitting in washington right now, the minister would call you the president of ukraine or the minister of legislation, what is going on there? abrams is not being given to us yet, but bradley is already being given this, what does mr. danylo and mr. danylo mean in shock, i answered, i will try to answer briefly now, but before i do that allow me to finish with the previous topic.

when you correctly said about pluralism, which is a characteristic feature of democratic societies, then there are no issues with this. another thing is when it is legal, which one is used by each and every member state of the european union or nato, it causes damage and collective and ukrainian interests, and this is precisely what orban is doing, and this is precisely what he succeeds in. therefore, we have a problem with a line that is not a friendly line that does not correspond to the general consensus among european states and in the euro-atlantic region regarding the deterrence of the russian aggressor and the unequivocalness in this regard so that the number of such political phenomena does not increase, it is undeniable that what we need is precisely that and we need to prepare for what we are seeing now in a reasonable and prudent manner in order not to to allow

the same complications and for example in other situations in other countries because it is quite likely it is political social processes and so on in my opinion the glass is not half empty in my opinion according to my wish the glass should become completely full and this is exactly what we need to work on now . regarding the question you asked about how much military aid will be expanded in ukraine, the largest record tranche from the american government has just taken place, more than 3 billion dollars, which includes armored vehicles and in general a lot of important supplies for our er our armed forces and for the front in order to answer your question and not fantasize i will give er just an example of today's article of the former very famous of an american diplomat, ex

-secretary of state of the united states of america, condoleezza rice, and a former minister , an equally well-known american statesman, ex-defense secretary, robert gates - this is their joint article. today, it appeared in the goshin tonpost, e-e, about what we had there is no time and this is actually what they are actually saying in the west, including in the whole west, including with ukraine, when would it be possible to allow, as they write their articles, a temporary ceasefire with russia, there are other forms of diplomatic relations. at this stage of the solution, this scenario does not tell us. this scenario is simply not acceptable .

more powerful weapons, including mobile armored vehicles, that is why this signal from the republicans is very important for ukraine, it means that the number of people who are convinced that ukraine must be provided with the maximum amount of weapons is growing in the american political system in order to monika, thank you, thank you, mr. danylo danylubkiv diplomat, director of the kyiv security forum, i'm sorry for interrupting you so clumsily, but the program continues . then i will immediately react and say that we have both people's deputies. and who exactly is oleg dunda, the people of ukraine, oleksiy honcharenko, also a people's deputy of ukraine. good health, gentlemen. thank you for finding the time when all of ukraine is eating olivier, join

us and talk about the affairs of the verkhovna rada, our parliamentary affairs, while i don't see you, but now i see you. thank you for finding the time once again . and in the next everything will be fine , my first question is to mr. oleksiy, as to an old acquaintance and to you, and two to oleg, but it’s just a question, and it’s simple and difficult. there are supporters of not immediately exclusion is there any way to deprive the verkhovna rada of all powers, and there is a point of view that it should be done neatly because

they will file it not poor people, they have good lawyers and they will immediately file the european court of human rights, they will win the case, they will have to be renewed and so on and so on. something like that so, mr. oleksiiovych, first, then mr. olezhe, is it possible or not legally verified , somehow these people are already at the request of society, because now it is not someone there 1 2 3 some party, a faction, and society is set in an anti-russian way, wants remove their powers, please, mr. oleksiy, i congratulate you, well, the short answer is that you can throw them out very nicely and neatly, give them a normal kick and throw them out of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, but first i want to congratulate everyone on christmas, christ was born and uh, everyone who is watching us right now, mr. mykola you, mr. oleg, i really want to believe that this day will really

bring us the most important thing. why are we all waiting for it? victories. well, today is also an important day. it is an important component of our struggle, so it is really very happy about your question, well, mr. oleg and i are co-authors of the draft resolution of the verkhovna rada, which provides for the deprivation of the parliamentary mandates of all people's deputies of the psg video, and this is absolutely legal, as you say, tidy why, because in the constitution there are two grounds on which we can deprive them of their mandates, ground number one is if a people's deputy changes his place of permanent residence from ukraine to some other country, of course, that is, if you left and now live in france or in russia well, you cannot be a people's deputy of ukraine, this is

an obvious thing, and we also have such deputies. they left the country and since then the nose was ordered here, and more than a year has passed, and soon it will be a year, which is simply not physically here and why we keep them in the verkhovna rada, no one can explain this at all, that is, the first completely reinforced concrete er, the second reason, and here they already have her too created with their own hands the fact is that the constitution says that another reason for depriving a people's deputy of his mandate is when the people's deputy writes a statement about withdrawing from the party list on which he or she was elected, and again the same people 's deputies from the national people's congress after on february 24, they wanted so. well, they didn't wait right away, whether the boy was from russia, kyiv or not. as they saw that they would not take over, from the end of march, they began to leave the opzz faction, writing their resignations in their own hand

, this is another reinforced concrete reason according to which we can deprive even the greater part of the psg faction of their mandates, so we were led by a draft resolution of the verkhovna rada, which i have the honor of being the first author of the pandum, where there are co-authors, also there are co-authors, mr. ariev and ms. fedina, registered in the verkhovna rada since august, no one it is not brought up for consideration, and it is already there. i was a factor in the petition on the website of the president of ukraine, which in record time gathered 25,000 signatures. it all went to stefanchuk as zelenskyi’s vilist, and slifanchuk says that they are there. well, they are looking for mechanisms, how to find them, but they can’t even though we have been meaning for a long time, i realized my mistake, i’m sorry, oleksiy and now you are the first one with me, if there are two of you, you will not answer because you are so angry, you explain everything correctly. what should i ask this oleg?

oleg has one more time i just put my hands down, but i still have something to add to mr. oleg , look. and why do you think it is not put to a vote, mr. oleksiy explained everything in great detail, and if there were grounds for a bill, there is everything, then two questions arise why not put to a vote and whether will this draft law be counted, will it become a law , or will there be 226 votes for its adoption, please, mr. oleg well, first of all, i want to add to mr. oleksiy what he did not say, the most important thing is that the verkhovna rada not only can resolve this issue, it is obliged to resolve this issue this is one of the most urgent issues that society needs to solve now, moreover, if the verkhovna rada, which is a miracle , it cannot be called anything else, the issue will not be resolved. i am afraid that this issue will be resolved

by society in a way that interferes is needed and then the question arises. why is such a verkhovna rada needed at all, which does not solve society's issues, so we not only have the right to solve it, we are also obliged to solve it, and what i see today is how the collection of signatures is moving, we already have it somewhere about 100 e signatures is what i see for the court next week we will have 150 if not 200 signatures and even those deputies who refuse to sign the tikhonov school say but we will not sign but we will vote for and accordingly when this issue will be put in the session hall vote, it won't get 226 votes, because it won't get 300 + votes, because whoever doesn't vote, he gets a wolf ticket from politics, he has nothing to do in politics . i didn't

say that anywhere. but you will be sure that this question will most likely be voted on somewhere closer to february 24, and i think that in the spring of the 23rd year we will reach the political season without any problems in the session hall of the verkhovna rada . one moment and what the logic of those people who come up to you and say we will not sign the demand for attitudes to the vote, more precisely, the introduction of 150 people into the agenda, but we will vote for and why do they eat that well, what are they afraid of or are they afraid of russian spies who will poison them e tea or coffee in p- in the parliamentary buffet what is their logic that they don't want it publicly it seems to me the opposite now is exactly the period of time when you have to shout and i am against the opzzh then i get

some political dividends for myself in the next elections i will be dissing for the first time or in the first 50 people who are against psg, against which the whole of ukraine is now, well, at least 98%, oleg, i don't think like that when i say that people need to sign, i explain in this way. it's very simple. this is a matter of state security, because on february 24, it happened in that form. we had all the families in the hall of these very deputies whom russia sought from whom russia sought to make a pro-russian puppet government, and until then , while they are sitting in the session hall, there is a danger of kyiv being taken over, there is a danger of creating this self-deprecating government in fact keeping these deputies session dawns we invite moscow to attack kyiv not only donbass but kyiv and capture the destruction of the entire state that is why they should not be in the session hall

precisely for the sake of national security there are no other examples there should not be any political motivation political future now we all we are planning to create a large ukrainian pro-ukrainian faction in the session in the walls of the session hall and care only about the future of ukraine, but not about their future, those who do not understand this i think that in the near future they will be asked about this society and let them gather some arguments to answer to the society for their inability to put a signature. let's go back to mr. oleksiy honcharenko, people's deputy of ukraine, and oleksiy , such a philosophical question. if we follow the path suggested by oleg dunda, namely the creation of a large pro-ukrainian pro-european faction in the verkhovna rada i would say that if i were a deputy, i would be categorically against it because i love the opposition. i adore the position. i believe that there must

be an opposition. if there is none, it must be created artificially. there will be five deputies, let there be 10, let there be 15, but it must be there, because without it there is no democracy, no rivalry, no political competition, there is no competition , in the end, ideas for oleksiy you have two minutes and i apologize, can you give after oleksiy it took me a minute and a half to answer the question, thank you, yes, this one, after all, i say yes 21 oleg, i think he meant something else , not directly referring to a specific faction, but as it were, bearing in mind that the majority of deputies who vote on the decision are necessary for the country decisions such as throwing out the russian mire from the ukrainian parliament or banning the moscow church, because today there are very good

steps but why don't we adopt bills and provide for direct things, the lavra was taken away , the moscow church was banned, any by the way, which has its center in moscow, well, these are the right things, i i think that there should be such a majority about ukrainian . and the fact that democracy must be preserved in the country. this is very important. we are not russia and not a fool of the state, and there should be different views and democracy works when the opposition raises important issues and we raise them, this constitutional court and the fight against corruption, many other things, but there is nothing to learn about in matters of basic national security and we need to vote together, mr. oleg promised half a minute, you have 30 seconds, look first, we already have the only faction regarding the root cause of rural affairs regarding ukraine is, firstly, and secondly , i will remind you of mr. churchill, who became the prime minister of great britain in the 40th year, he became due to the fact that he was

voted for and there was a combination of the powerful factions of the party, as well as the opposition, and precisely because of this, great britain won the second world war, there are things for which you can unite and not look for different views. thank you, oleg, the voice of the people over ukraine, oleksiy goncharenko, people's deputy of ukraine, were with us on the air now, the news will be in 30 seconds, during which i will have time to say that when society intervenes, it is always dangerous . all these parliamentary matters must be decided in the parliament. i remember in 1991 when they finally wanted to hang the yellow-blue cat red, blue, red-blue flag so they hung two, well, if they didn't want to annoy a certain number of people and there were two flags, they were there for about half a minute and then it was just like that, and not the verkhovna rada, people standing on the street broke two windows i'm all me then in the verkhovna rada and