er, so we will pretend to be something, this is a serious matter, but when these people don't want to mobilize, i don't want to do it, and the chief will do it, and the chief will do what weapons we can, we can arm as many weapons as possible, we need to return the escort, and we need to change, keeping in mind that he can open up to us against the russian, there are a lot of them now there are now 12 thousand of them, what will be more painful. so, in this way, he is competing for his country, for his life, there is no other way, there is no other way - this is minced meat, the mail, which is another way is being prepared for belarusians, therefore, rational and political approaches must be taken to this which is not carried out it is necessary to use this in one's own interests , and the 13th weapon of the competition, and what is interesting is that the actual lukashenko understands it, he is afraid of it. but how will they

break up? and ruled life in such a way that now this is the situation, a certain trend, the trend is such that russia, in my opinion, has planned a new next action by creating a mobilization group in belarus. well, maybe 100 million times. well, this mobilization is what you think. the issue has already been resolved in belarus, because we have a lot of intelligence that it is being prepared and is being prepared together with the russian new wave and that the borders will be closed. so you say that belarusians are afraid of russia, there was simply chaos at the borders, people left wherever they could to escape and to georgia and to kazakhstan and mongolia, who ran away like hares, who fled there and

fled to belarus, will they go abroad , or what will be the reaction in the event of an announcement of mobilization ? they will hold their weapons and i would say here that the belarusians must now, as i understand it, что может быть теперы agreed upon directly, because you can't do anything there alone, here comes a serious time, the decision to mobilize is practically well, the official one is not accepted by such aliens. it was given because we already said that something is threatening, but the situation is where the russians will each concentrate their power, not

lukashenko , and they will ask. that is, i will not go back. what a moon, why is it that, well, let's allow quiet time and a clever man , so then there are no reasons, that's what the option did, that's why belarus is to blame, that's why it's such a primitive trick from the side, how do you still understand that what comes out of it, take a look well, i also wanted to ask you about modern politics i wanted to ask you about the belarusian position. are you a representative of the generation that did a lot for the independence of the new belarus? you led the belarusian people's

front. they mostly mention svetlana quietly and about her so-called cabinet. how do you feel about the possibility, well, in general, of the opposition forces of tykhanov and their entourage, about their possibility, well , to oppose the lukashenko regime ? and not to remain a satellite of the russian federation and be an allied state together with russia. how sincere are these people in their efforts and how much strength do they have to do it? your assessment please, i can even the topic of stikhanovska's short story is that it will be the most holy thing that comrade hoyda 's position is that the opposition to belarus

was formed by gazprom as a pro-russian task. eh, we need friends from russia, what a kalyputsin would shake this opposition, he would be a national hero, well, that's all they said, that 's the opposition on the street, and now it's my support europe, because europe conducts its own policy , and the policy was formed a long time ago, but in the 20th year, it was outlined very specifically when it was created. this is paris, berlin, moscow, this is the position of the company and the necessary actions for germany . for paris, i cannot make any

statements. colleya, something will happen, that the lukashenko regime, which is on the beaches of this opposition, will go to belarus. well, believe me, it seems that financial and political orders are still being issued. this is a good thing, and that is why i repeat goethe, the opposition does not have any the prospects are sometimes non-national, she is not independent and she was from the left pro- russian . - the liberation movement on which i am apple kalinovsky and the belarusian patriots, i will not allow the same option as i fought with lukasz, i did not refuse that there will be an investigation into the tikhonovskaya

household and there are a lot of facts that need to be dealt with. недея and eh, only on nationally liberated grays, which person from ukraine, who is a voice for ukraine, what kind of life do they give for the freedom of ukraine and belarus, the polish woman gathered this, she decided, that's how zaya and the future will grow up for us, for national democracy, and anya for this russian all kinds of e- to the people who i say that without russia we will not go anywhere, that is what we need to do, friends, and we all know how this friendship ends, and what ended in belarus , the occupation and the war in ukraine, i declare that the ukrainian people do not exist, that they need to be better. well, maybe they heard everything there thank you sir green, well, we wish your country to become well, european and democratic and friendly to ukraine. i hope that this will

happen very soon. good luck to you. in your struggle , she will rise. thank you. glory to ukraine is already in belarus. death to enemies, glory. lives belarus. zenon pozniak, dissident, belarusian politician , public figure was with us on connections well, finally, today is sunday, today is sunday, and we can afford, we can afford to retreat a little from extremely serious topics, although when we talk about ukrainian cultural events, that's a matter our native shchedryk is quite serious, i confess that this is my most favorite song my favorite is just to the current in the heart as they say, this is a big story, it's a big story connected with our people and connected with the world, it's a piece of our cultural diplomacy and that's how shchedryk turned uh and became something more than ukrainian folklore became something completely

international about it and not only we will talk with tina peresunko about this story of shchedryk founder of the leontovich institute tina congratulations glory to ukraine heroes glory good day congratulations on the internationalization of the generous well now i don't know a country that, in turn, did not know this melody although not everyone knows the story until now, have we succeeded in ukraine, have ukrainians succeeded in achieving their main goal of promoting themselves through this absolute beautiful e- is this a cultural pearl of our history? we have managed to present the world with a beautiful form, but the world has not yet reached the content. beautiful questions. thank you, indeed, the mission of the philanthropist is ongoing. this is indeed a pearl of ukrainian culture, but also a tool of ukrainian

of diplomacy, and this is precisely my research, which i have been working on for more than five years, and it was very important for me to study this extremely popular ukrainian song. so, every year at christmas, before and before the full-scale invasion and before the beginning of the russian aggression in in crimea, we always talked about this song at christmas, but usually we always talked about the american context of shchedrik, and that he became popular in america, but somehow we never asked the question. how exactly did he get to america, and what is shchedrik as kyrylo vzybelz's christmas carol was heard for the first time in the american cinema in the christmas comedy home alone. it was very important for me when i first got into the archive of oleksandr koshyts's choir, which actually popularized

this song abroad. shchedrik's page is related to his main political and diplomatic mission, so in 2018 i published a book called the world tremb of shchedrik's term of cultural diplomacy of ukraine, and i am showing its title page exactly because here you can see the translations of shchedrik into various european languages ​​and this period from 1919 to 21 years into polish, french, czech, german, dutch, etc. flemish, and actually speaking, i heard your previous important conversation with inon poznik, which ended with the fact that today, of course, russian propaganda we all know denies the fact of the existence of the ukrainian people as such. and just 100 years ago, when we were in absolutely identical circumstances, of course much worse, because the world did not know about ukraine at all when it was in january 18

proclaimed its state independence when poland also regained its independence czechoslovakia lithuania baltic countries somehow in europe plus or minus knew about these peoples, on the other hand, they did not know about ukrainians as a people abroad, and then russian propaganda was very powerful, which caused that ukrainians - it was russian единой русской народности, and at that time the western world was just on the side of russia as an ally of the entente, and therefore the government of the ukrainian people's republic , in particular, the head of our state at that time, as commander-in -chief of this petlyura, was very likely to convey the idea of ​​ukraine as a state through song through music, and this instrument became shchedryk. and here i showed these samples of the translation of this song into various european languages, that is, at first in europe, and in paris, where ukrainian issues are still usually resolved. "appeared in america in new york at

carnegie hill in 1922. that's how we should talk about shchedryk as a ukrainian song that gained international popularity first in europe and precisely as a ukrainian shchedrivka not as an american carol and only in 1922 when unfortunately er, well, if in the cultural plan, of course, it missed its mark, but the western politicians at that time never supported ukrainian independence, ukraine came to a standstill under the soviet occupation of russia, actually under russian occupation, the composer mykola leontovych died in january 1921, he was shot by an agent of the russian chek and thus lost having lost his homeland, in fact, the opportunity to return to occupied ukraine , because the same thing happened without these

singers, something happened to the leontovychs, they moved to america, and that's how shchedryk got to american cinema, tell me, well, it is clear that there in the world, in america, in europe, they know not only about this ukrainian music, but also about this composer, about mykola leontovych, and there they know about this tragic fate of his, about his murder and who beat him and that it was obviously a murder well, on the orders of the nkvd, that is, it was not some kind of murder due to carelessness, it was simply the purposeful destruction of ukrainian art of one of its authors, this story is known there as a border in the world in general. shchedryk got to america and then well already in the 36th year of 193, there was already an english-language version of kyrylo zubls, and when kerolov the best became firmly established in american musical culture , it actually became for american society just like an american carol, the ukrainian

diaspora in new york in the usa very often, well, hmm, wrote various publications in the press, there are various lobbying companies in order to convey to the american society what a ukrainian song is. and here is also such an eloquent fact in tysyach. it turns out that the first pronounced version of the song appeared in 1933 year it was not kerova the bells it was such an adapted translation of shchedryk's song dad liars into english but the author of this translation noted that it was a translation from the original russian language and immediately the ukrainian emigration began to be published in the press. shchedryk - this is a translation from ukrainian and the composer mykola leontovych is not a russian composer. he is a ukrainian e-positor who has lived all his life in ukraine and it is generally a shame to call him a russian composer because he is not only ukrainian, he is stuck in russian or bone, that's why it

was necessary to convey the ukrainian identical generosity and the authorship of mykola leontovich. it was constantly on the agenda, and it was carried out by ukrainian migration. another such an eloquent example was in 1946. exactly 10 years after the appearance of carroll vzybells, when was this song appeared when american choirs began to record this song in their christmas albums on vinyl records. bells and this is a very well-known popular american choir of robert shaw, he published an album of christmas songs, where he also performed the bells carol, but in the annotation to this performance it means that this is a typical russian folk carol by the composer mykola leontovich , about whom we could not find any information about 1946 a year ago, of course, this

is constantly constantly uh-uh, so there were problems in american society that the song is a popular song. in fact, this is a christmas procession that is performed en masse every year at christmas. but still in the american environment, as it were in fact, they did not know about the composer or his fate, and one way or another, the american diaspora has been trying to convey this for decades, and that is why it is great that this year the anniversary concert finally took place in carnegie hall, and it was held for the first time in this entire period. in 100 years, the last it was held for the first time at the state level, and it is a huge achievement that it is at the state level that ukraine took care to declare in america that nothing like this will reduce together, we share with you, but don't forget where from, as the roots say, thank you those on the move, the researcher of the history of shchedryk, the founder of the leontovich institute, we were contacted by shchedryk. it sounded and continues to

sound in ukrainian homes. please, this bouquet is lucky. in our country, it does not disappear. yes, there is a generator on the street humming. how do my husband and i have a family business? they give up to 20 thousand hryvnias, i understand. thank you very much for the bouquet of support for the ukrainian veteran business. find out the details now on the website or by phone. it has become

a real symbol of christmas. it was heard in the walls of the best concert halls in the world. it is a popular christmas composition . carol of the bells is a song without which christmas is not christmas, these four notes that united the world from the north to the south poles from alaska to australia and which almost every person in the world has heard and not everyone knows that although the words of the song were written by the popular american conductor peter vilhovskyi, the music was composed by the brilliant ukrainian composer mykola leontovych, and the basis of this masterpiece is an ancient ukrainian new year's song a century ago . sung in shchedrivka for 100 years, the

ukrainian song spread around the world and became an unofficial christmas hymn, but before that happened, shchedryk went a long way, becoming a symbol of the ukrainian struggle for independence from russia in 1919 the first world war had just ended at the paris peace conference , the victorious states were establishing a new world order. american president powder wilson in his famous 14 pu asserted the inalienable right of peoples to self-determination against the background of these epoch-making statements of the baltic states for the caucasus, poland, the czech republic , finland, ukraine and other states are given reasons to hope for a fair post-war solution to their national aspirations. the ukrainian people's republic, which has literally risen from the ashes, declares its independence has come true, the old dream of your parents, the ukrainian people's republic is becoming an independent,

independent, sovereign state of the ukrainian people, however, we ukrainians were in no hurry to divide the great powers of europe and america . the political descendants of lenin did not come to the conclusion that ukraine was invented by him, the then russian ministers claimed that the austrian headquarters invented it unwillingly to recognize the independence of ukraine, bolshevik russia begins a full-scale invasion of ukraine, captures not only the ukrainian east, but also the capital kyiv itself, on the eve of the occupation, the head of the ukrainian people's republic, simon petlyura, sends a chorus to europe, as in our days, not having sufficient means of waging war, ukraine understood that the only chance to survive was to win the information war and mobilize the countries of europe in support of ukraine, so petliura understands the threats and

started a way to remind the world that ukraine has existed for a long time, and secondly, separately from the general public in russia does not know, but the case when the ukrainian president comes from the cultural sphere is not the know-how of ukraine of the 21st century. simon petliura, the head of state and the commander-in-chief of the ukrainian army before the war, a publicist, journalist, art critic and reviewer of theaters premier, so it was decided that one of the directions of ukrainian cultural diplomacy misha has conspiracies capable of breaking through all boundaries of music simon petlyura summoned the composer and conductor oleksandr koshyts and ordered to assemble a choir within a week in order to find the best choristers organized almost a talent show against the will of the author, shchedryk is also included in the repertoire, contrary to why, because the composer mykola leontovych was too strict with himself, a

modest music teacher from tulchyn who repeatedly burned his scores in podilly and worked on shchedryk's melody for more than 10 years, however, a ukrainian swallow nevertheless, the first triumphant concert of the ukrainian republican chapel, so called the choir of the ukrainian people's republic, took place on may 11, 1919 in the capital of czechoslovakia. the works of mykola lysenko, kirill stetsenko, and oleksandr koshyts himself, but all the listeners from vienna to brussels, from barcelona to paris, were in love with the generous man, one of the most beautiful songs of the program was written by the london magazine punch, a masterpiece of folk art, admired the christmas carol, the columnist of the brussels newspaper levantien siclet, the viennese mass media put an end to the cultural maturity of ukraine has to become for the world the legitimization of its political

independence, simon petlyura's strategy worked . ministers, academics, professors, visits 10 countries, gives more than 200 concerts and causes a real boom, is generous, applies to foreign languages, shouts are heard in the halls, long live ukraine, more than half a thousand reviews in ten different languages ​​about ukraine and ukrainian music, this is the result of european tours, a choir of hundreds of foreign artists, politicians and public figures letters were sent to the choir with support for ukrainian cultural and political subjectivity, meanwhile, in shchedryk's homeland, events unfolded tragically while the ukrainian people's republic won the war on the cultural front, the military front, which at the same time tried to restrain thousands of troops and bolsheviks and white officers who dreamed of restoring the russian empire, still did not

hold up despite expectations, military aid was never provided to ukraine and it was occupied by soviet russia for 70 years, political repressions and purges of those who disagreed with the murders of the ukrainian intelligentsia were so called by the regime, simon petliura, who was killed in paris just on the street, and mykola leontovych, an artist in 1921, fall under such a purge was killed by a russian chekist, his works were declared irrelevant for the soviet era and his memory was erased for many decades, and shchedryk, together with the choir of oleksandr koshyts, continued to live in 1922, he reached the western hemisphere and immediately entered the most prestigious new york carnegie hall in the same the evening of americans hearing the melody of their future christmas hit for the first time followed by concerts in more than 100 other american cities everywhere shchedryk encore as in europe

leontovych's carol is not only the course of the tour but also a symbol of the ukrainian struggle for independence sing enslaved ukraine, sing chebetushko , the spring you are waiting for will come, wrote brazilian academician enrique coelionetto after the premiere of shchedrik in rio de janeiro. however, ukrainians will have to wait a long time for their own spring, because in ukraine it is a russian winter, the kremlin authorities continue to destroy the ukrainian intelligentsia, starve the peasants , destroy everything could remind the world of ukraine, but shchedryk did remind of it in 1936. the american composer and conductor of ukrainian origin peter vilhovsky included shchedryk in the repertoire of his school choir and presents the song on america's most famous radio station , nbc, after the premiere, music teachers in america bombard vilhovskyi with requests to

send shchedryk's sheet music. in november 1936, he publishes the song in the new york music publication carl fischer and calls it carol of the bells. ukrainian rizdvyana notes this in the score. carol music by mykola leontovych words and arrangement by peter vilkhovsky so the ukrainian swallow turns into american bells and shchedryk to carol of the bells the melody of mykola leontovych becomes the christmas anthem of the usa, and later the whole world, and this melody is played in basketball, films are made , christmas is celebrated and tiktok content is watched in england, a generous person is called a new year's serenade , in latin america the song of the great charm, and in canada a newly discovered sphinx, why did the ukrainian composer's work become so popular this melody timeless she exists between ukrainian paganism, which drew inspiration from nature itself, and american

hollywood . like harry potter the nutcracker and the immortal simpsons, only the ukrainian origin of this masterpiece, which even knew about its important cultural and political mission not all ukrainians who heard it for the first time in the beloved christmas comedy home alone, which was released in 1990, more than a century shchedryk lived overseas uniting people in their belief in the christmas miracle, and 100 years later, a rocket of the same russian occupier flew into a kyiv building on oleksandr koshyts street, only this time the world has no doubts regarding this subjectivity, which was also acquired by a ukrainian philanthropist 100 years ago, the foundations for cultural diplomacy laid by simon petliura are bearing fruit, and now ukrainian song and culture is gaining

new victories that strengthen and complement other diplomatic and military victories, so that in the end ukrainians defend their home and won the main victory of life over death freedom over slavery