such as general kirill budanov, who spoke about march, i would also say that by approximately march, at the beginning, we will have an available amount of armor in order to carry out large-scale offensive actions, and not on one, perhaps, even on two variants of the front that regarding the situation under the trampoline, i would say that the critical point of this battle has not been passed, it is obvious that it is actually ahead in the mountains, they will still try to capture the city of bakhmute, the city of soledar , and i think we will pass this peak point to at the end of january. after that, once again, when we receive the required number of e-e armored vehicles, we will be ready to conduct full-scale successful offensive operations and similar ones that were carried out in kharkiv oblast and kherson

oblast . birth, a military expert and a volunteer were in touch with us and informed us about the situation at the front. and now about the situation . political scientist, director of the center for the study of civil society problems. good health, mr. vitaly. it's nice to see you. thank you for finding time for us. well, look at such a simple and not so simple conversation about that. erdoğan says i'll call zelensky, i'll call putin, and now that means the minister of foreign affairs of the jewish the new prime minister, the new old prime minister, is also talking about some mediation efforts, how realistic is it, how successful can these gentlemen be, how much can they

to count on the nobel peace prize well, let's start with the fact that erdogan had something, in particular, the so-called grain agreement, the exchange of prisoners, and in particular the release of the commanders of the nitrogen-protectors, that is, some mediating functions of the ordinand, which he performs, of course, in his own interest, that is , all the negotiating positions that are voiced by turkey, they take into account the interests of turkey first of all, and not some abstract, er, wishes for peace in ukraine. that is, it is not charity, and this should be understood. the same grain agreement, it provides that turkey becomes the grain hub of the entire continent of africa, the so-called because it is a player in the grain market, and fertilizers and grain itself from ukraine and food go with it, they actually act and

influence the politics of those countries where they are physically present, including militarily-politically, libya, egypt, morocco , algeria, etc., and then equatorial africa. that is, it is in the interests of turkey to the extent that they will be able to reach a major agreement now , in my opinion, no, because there is no request for this major agreement, but there were separate contractual positions the grain agreement is quite likely here, starting with the ammonia pipeline and ending with gas transit, that is, there are many positions where business is always business, this first of all raises questions for our government, so our government is ready to talk about such things, to do business here at a time when there is a war, but turkey is doing a good job on this and offers various variations, of course, vitaliy, look

at that. it turned out he he has the cards he can say but you see i am an effective negotiator you see in me this i have this i have this and when something starts until the end i hope for the victories of ukraine but he can offer himself and since negotiations require two sides and there are trust between the erdogans and putin it is erdogan who will become the one who can become the mediator who can start some real serious negotiations if there is such an agenda, which is conditional , please, well, it is worth understanding that erdanyan is not just the president of turkey, he is the president of a country that is part of nato and has certain allied relations with the countries of the west, this is the first, second position is that the interests of the russian federation and the interests of turkey do not coincide in many positions, they are

competitors, starting from the middle east and ending with the caucasus, so we can say that there is complete trust and mutual understanding that erdoğan will play on the field of russia in the trade process, i would n't say that either, i didn't say, first of all, erdoğan is playing in the national interests of turkey , you understand that everything he does is playing on in the national interest of his country. will he be able to bring it to the grand agreement now? no, he won't, and that's why he 's pedaling this issue, he's trying to maintain leadership positions because, in addition to erdogan, there are quite a few countries on the list of those who offer their services as mediators, starting from the pope, ending up as the president of the barnauper president of brazil, is a fool, that is, each of them also makes a proposal to be a

mediator between russia and ukraine. russia will also raise the december end of november posting through a cossack who pulled out some mothballs. let me remind you that at one time he managed the issue of the occupied territories of donbas and was a representative of russia in the negotiation process in minsk. this may also indicate that russia is interested in such white noise, which would burden us with any special obligations, for example , to bring a great intensity there on the front for example, operations counteroffensive, for example, what i would really like in the russian federation , let me remind you that today pandar announced that he would like the cease-fire regime to continue, and the position that

we supposedly had a cease-fire regime, the so-called christmas truce, forgive him there was no, and this is evidenced by all possible sources that indicate that we had constant shelling starting from january 6 and ending today, january 8, all these days, when the christmas truce was supposed to be, we had attacks by russians on our territory and not, for example, the latest events in the same one in bakhmut, or the event in zaporizhzhia, which is there, which was fired with cluster bombs, that is, they did not give vitali, they left. yes, i am here, i think that erdogan is not alone here. i just this morning listened to the russians as liberal experts and the management of the former echo of moscow, which my lady also told us that the russians are observing the ceasefire. it seems to me that except for them, everyone, the rest of the world knows that it is not being

observed, and here i am hearing from people who consider themselves liberals that no, no, no on the 7th number since 12 o'clock no one shot and so on and so on, but the question is different, i have an impression, i could be wrong, you can point out my mistake, if you please, that putin's attempt to find neutrals is already exposed to some kind of rejection. i mean the rejection of fashion the premiere of the indian i mean the exit of a huge number of companies and chinese companies from the russian market, first of all i mean without a doubt huawei, on which the entire banking system is based and they also exit from russia, that is, this is the turn of russia to the east, about which, long before the war, the russians began to say that we do not need such and such europe and america and canada and japan, the name

of china is india. affairs, the pressure of america on india, for example , this pressure is strong enough, and india is also not so excited about the gas and oil trade with russia, the exit of the chinese company, they say that putin is becoming more and more alone , so, well, there is iran, north korea of course, vanuatu can, eritrea can, but this is the end of the list, please, well , let's start with the fact that the indian economy is obliged to western markets and western technologies, and it is obvious that the application of the sanctions regime counter-sanctions are hitting the indian economy, and they understand this perfectly and are trying accordingly stay away from putin's toxic regime, although they play politics, vote or vote in the un, but modi's recent actions really indicate

that he is trying to stay away from putin and not expose himself too much to conflicts with a collective measure although with him he also has a certain mastery of relations with china where business is there of course companies are moving away from active cooperation and trying to avoid western sanctions, this is clearly where china can, it uses russia as a source of raw materials as a fellow traveler and extracts as much from russia as possible -what kind of concessions, how is this possible, for example, on oil prices, gas, on labor migration, on the purchase of food, etc., china is gradually displacing russian companies from titano-asian companies of markets, some russian companies voluntarily and forcibly leave uzbekistan , kazakhstan, the chinese take their place in tajikistan, in fact, this process is already being completed in kyrgyzstan, also by 70%

. not the relations of an ally, i constantly say that it is not necessary to ask china and russia as allied relations, china does not have any ally obligations towards russia, it is a fellow traveler whom china uses in its games of the west, again, the west is an opponent is a competitor not an enemy again but is an opponent competitor there are certain exacerbations that russia uses there in order to weaken the collective measure from its point of view, mr. vitaly, look at this very interesting question. i read it somewhere, i don't remember one of the american high-ranking intelligence officers said about two or three weeks ago, the most attentive viewer of the news from the ukrainian fronts is sisinpin. what exactly is he sitting in front of the

tv sets studying everything in great detail, then the question arises, oh, in words, i agree here, china, i emphasize, as well as russia on friendship is chewing gum, beijing, moscow, and so on and so on, but why is china weakened? it’s just that when it was a proportionate giant, when china grew up, when the chinese economy grew up, and the russian economy had not yet declined so much, it was just starting. then i understand that china needed something from russia and russia from china today, when russia is absolutely weakened, why does china need it then, and not in reality, but is russia really a factor for

china ’s foreign policy? political and economic, that is, the war in ukraine is remembered by china as a confrontation between russia and the west, and accordingly it sees russia as a tool to weaken the west on the other hand, and russia is considered a raw material appendage as the territory of china's future economic and even physical expansion. superior attitude towards russia , it is mentioned that it was russia that took part in the so-called century-long humiliation of china in the 19th and early 20th centuries, it is indicated that the territories that are now not russian the federation once belonged to the chinese empire , all of them from time to time are not on the front pages of the chinese snakes, but from time to time it comes back to it, it is discussed that

this is when russia will begin to disintegrate, because when it openly weakens, then china can offer an umbrella to territories that wish to secede from moscow, for example , that is, china sees in russia the territories of possible expansion, this is clear and sees the need for russia to remain weak for as long as possible, weakening the measures about this even candidly writes their main journal bumble bee g. the last questions are for sale literally 40 seconds visit please i mean and what is the situation in china itself today there are a lot of changes there a very dynamic situation is not in favor of dvinkin as far as i understand in the last month you can literally comment there in a minute clearly that the situation is worsening because there is already cases of direct accusation of the regime and the demand for its

resignation. if earlier political demands did not arise during the protest, they were purely socio-economic, now demand the resignation of self-evaluation, this means that certain groups in china within the framework of the communist party are beginning to wage a more active struggle against this zimping, despite the fact that he won the round at the 20th congress of the communist party of china, in fact, he will be re-elected, but the already reformed party chairman will be tried the leader of china, but on the other hand, er, hmm, his victory is the final victory, as in the self-assertion as an emperor, it is pyrrhic, because the fronting groups begin to seek support from the military security forces and others, and those allies those who were with him before begin to ask questions about when the war in russia will be over, who made these calls, and when the situation in the markets begins to level out and they will not

observe the decline of the economy itself and their corporations due to the fall of their shares because china is also approaching a recession and they are afraid of it. thank you vitaliy kulyk, political scientist , director of the center for the study of civil society problems, he was in touch with us . thank you very much . defense, candidate of political currents, minister of youth and sports from the 14th to the 19th years, i hope i will see igor now, what we can do, yes , i can already see thank you for your time . the name of the project is expected to be an informational attack or an offensive or an attack or a victory or something, mykola, you are as

always creative, but the name of the project was given after february 24, we founded it on the 27th, and of course it was relevant then name relevant information defense but i think that we, together with the ministry of defense, will be renamed, as the ministry of defense will become the ministry of attack, then we will have the ministry of information attack. i think that it is necessary to go step by step with the state bodies and focus on the armed forces. excellent answer. see what i would like to ask , since all after all, you were the minister of youth sports for many years, that is, you know something about youth, and there is such a controversy here, it is quite interesting. in my opinion, on the one hand , many people say that it is necessary to encourage people to return, all the millions went to europe has a problem with its population, and on the

other hand, i think about myself well, let's take today's ireland, a wonderfully fast-developing country that had a crazy emigration to the united states during the great depression, the irish fled there for a decade, the poles fled to germany, the germans further west there, shorter everything happened, romanians went to britain and so on and so on, i.e. migration processes are natural and even a migration process for which demographics are affected insanely, i.e. seven million is no no no no no 200,000 then it is necessary to worry, it is necessary to somehow take special actions, but on the other hand, the burden on the economy decreases on the ukrainian economy

. 10 times less is 10 times less to make efforts to restore. that is, where is there? there is some right point of view of the right point of view. well, i wouldn't say that because, you know, in our democracy everyone can to think and consider. i adhere to the point of view of voltaire, who once said that i do not agree with you, but i am ready to die so that you freely express your opinion regarding the question asked of you. i do not completely agree with this logic. i believe that the state can develop if there is sufficient human capital and human potential, and we need those young people who left, maybe some of them went abroad, especially this does not affect young people, but it affects women and

children, because more than the 8 million who left abroad, these are children and women. but i think that some of them will definitely return abroad. i think that some part of how we win will come from abroad, but it will not be a disaster if they work in ukraine and raise its economy. well, for example working there in the it sphere, but paying taxes, including those that go to the development of the armed forces of ukraine abroad. this is an absolutely normal phenomenon, yes, the world is globalizing, the world is becoming global, we don’t accept it, you know how it was in ireland when people left, for example, at the end of the 19th and the beginning of the 20th centuries in the usa, this is all if a person took money for those. well, in quotes, i mean for those who stayed. that is, there was

a completely different world. now there is viber, now there is skype. now i have planes in the end and it is possible that there is such a close communication. the main thing is that the people, even those who went abroad, were integrated into the life of ukraine, they lived in the interests of this country of ours, their homeland, they helped the country economically , because i will tell you honestly after the victory for us we need to work very hard with you and pay taxes, and in order for us to have a powerful armed forces of ukraine, a powerful air defense system, a powerful tank, mechanized troops, ground troops that would beat the onslaught of the aggressor, after all, a subtle hint from zhdanov's game that we should wait for a new onslaught, because when they say that you need to have a strong army, this means that you need to understand that the war

will end, we are preparing for the next one, and then the next one will end, we need to prepare for the next one, this is really the state of israel on the northern black sea coast, i will say frankly russia will be an existential threat to ukraine as long as russia exists as a state, it will not only be a political and geopolitical threat, but a direct military threat, this war can be because they believe that such a state of ukraine does not exist and must be destroyed, torn apart or absorbed or uh substance so that it disintegrates into pieces that there is no such nation as ukrainians and there are no such ukrainians they must be destroyed , we just need to get out of this, this war will end and we will restore territorial integrity ukraine is convinced but russia will not rest

on this, it will er prepare for the next attack against ukraine, putin will not even be there, you know, they once said even before the 17th revolution that a russian democrat ends where the ukrainian question begins, that is, they are all democrats, but as soon as talks about ukraine, they become er interests er, even if russia disintegrates there will always be revanchist sentiments regarding ukraine yes, mr. igor well, then we have already got into geopolitics er, i would then ask. believe that ukraine, together with the western allies, and maybe even in this case, in the first place, the western allies do not understand the need to maximally weaken russia and reduce russia to a state that simply

physically, due to the economy, due to military affairs, due to technological impossibility, that russia will become unable to attack not only for ukraine, but also for burkina faso, the united states absolutely understands. ukrainians absolutely understand this. but in the united states , you also understand other aspects of the situation, it is that if the defeat of russia is inevitable well, that's what american analysts think, it's irenko parischenka, there's something else, i read in the analytical report. if putin is driven into the corner of physical survival, it will become a territorial prospect, let's say yes to the judicial tribunal gas, what will he do , does it concern nuclear weapons or not will

the russian elite give him personal protection or the officers who are responsible for launching missiles there to use nuclear weapons? on one side of the scales is the maximum weakening of russia, and on the other, on others, well, the idea of ​​american analysts is to prevent world thermonuclear conflict, what is the problem if russia did not have thermonuclear weapons and years to ensure its delivery to the united states there or to ukraine or to europe the situation would be much easier yes, it is inevitable, but most likely the victory of ukraine will be the restoration of ukraine within the framework of the internationally recognized borders of the year 1991, but we will not be allowed to simply go further on this, i am

convinced of this. okay, ukrainians can and cannot they don't want to go any further, but everything you have laid out only means that the americans must weaken russia to such a degree of weakness that no nuclear weapon will go anywhere simply because, well, there are no economic opportunities for this approach, but at the same time , you will send russia in this way so that it does not use nuclear weapons in the process of this weakening. this is why the dilemma of the e-e consists of the problem . that is, it constantly applies the right of veto in relation to its aggressive actions and does not allow the united nations to really take such serious measures to stop

its aggression against ukraine. it was not for nothing that she already wrote the question that russia, which aggressive irresponsible state does not have the right to possess nuclear weapons and it is necessary to ask questions about its nuclear disarmament, but all these questions are asked correctly, and i will emphasize once again that the main thing is that in the process of achieving them, it should use nuclear weapons scattered this must also be realized now as i will now ask a diplomatically rogue question diplomatically rogue because on the one hand it is diplomatic and on the other hand putin is a rogue person he is from the submarine when i was a turbulent youth and talked with people who were also turbulent who sat in prisons and so then there are such hooligans. they always said listen

, he pulled out a pistol, he shoots, or he doesn’t take out a pistol, well , that’s the law of the street, he came to such a dirty street. now the question arises. putin constantly says that he has a pistol in his pocket and constantly does not use why and people have already started to believe in it less as far as i remember that in april or maybe at the beginning of may, johnson said this and we will and you will shoot, i am a friend, a weapon and we will not ask anyone and we will answer, that is, as far as we can we be re- how realistic are the fears of the white house, how realistic is putin able to pull out this sand and start firing nuclear missiles p mykola, i agree with you absolutely that there was such and such a proverb and it is absolutely correct and in

nobody believed putin's nuclear bluff, but that's not the question. i think that no analyst, politician or public figure in the world currently has an answer to the question. what will happen if putin really has such a real prospect that he will be jailed, beaten and so on, he will give the order whether or not and whether this order will be carried out. not a single person will answer you , he will not give an answer. okay, thank you , citizens, project manager, information attack, information defense, candidate of political sciences, minister of youth and sports . he was with us for 14-19 years. thank you, mr. igor to of the next meetings, i hope. now i will briefly inform you about what we will talk about after a short break. well, you don't expect news. it won't be until 17:00, and after a 2-3 minute

break there will be a conversation about what happened three years ago in iran was over teheran over the capital early on a ukrainian plane was shot down which he saw not only ukrainians by the way there were few and above all it was canadians the most well there were also ukrainians for the british really there were ukrainians the crew was shot down the plane is still a mess unclear nothing let’s talk with aviators and people in this field, we will also talk about the fact that mr. president zelenskyi implemented the decision of the national security and defense council regarding