system for quite serious discussions in the near future and i think that we will continue these discussions. and now i want to hand over the microphone to our news service, which has prepared for you the latest issue of e-e events for this hour and will now present these news to you on euromelny, please in particular , i will tell you about the next lie of russia and the unlikely attack from belarus , there has never been such a thing. and here again russia lied about the night attack on kramatorsk, which the russian federation called a response to the buried soldiers in the makiiv vocational technical school for according to the ministry of defense of the aggressor country , 700 ukrainian defenders were allegedly destroyed by shelling, the

spokesman for the eastern group of the armed forces serhiy cherevaty noted that russia does not have the ability to deliver such high-precision strikes, i will quote the spokesman, this information is as true as the data that they destroyed all our hymers, this is an information operation, an attack on ukraine from belarus is unlikely this was told by the representative of ukrainian intelligence, vadym skibytskyi, according to whom the gur has no evidence of the creation of an assault group on midnight or the movement of troops is likely belarus will be used mainly as a base for the reorganization of the army, however, the enemy is preparing for offensive actions on the zaporizhzhia region, as well as increasing pressure on donetsk region , intelligence predicts an intensification of hostilities at the end of spring or summer, the kursk region of the russian federation is without electricity,

the local governor complains in the energy supply to the region was interrupted after shelling from ukraine, an official recorded at least ten hits, another exchange of prisoners took place in our homes this was reported by the head of the office of the president andriy yarmak , 50 of our soldiers have returned to ukraine, these are military personnel of the armed forces of the navy and the national guard, border guards and special forces, 33 officers and 17 privates and sergeants, our state has returned people who were captured at the chernobyl nuclear power plant, as well as defenders of mariupol, defenders from the donetsk direction from podbakhmut, kyiv region chernihiv oblast, kherson oblast and other regions,

yarmak added that this is not the last exchange. the border guards successfully attacked the enemy strongpoints and captured the positions of the russians during the night, the invaders tried to return what they had lost, but it did not work, the state border service of ukraine informs. the enemy helicopter is probably e-e fu fu fu fu fu probably k-52 and an

orlan-10 drone that tried to carry out reconnaissance of ukrainian positions, this is the work of the defenders of the air command center in the eastern direction in the sky over the dnipropetrovsk region ukrainian defenders shot down a russian reconnaissance drone orlan-10 reported the head of the region valentyn reznichenko enemy drone was destroyed by the military from the eastern air command neither side has absolute control over the kinburg spit and islands near kherson combat work continues, the spokeswoman for the defense forces informs nataliya humenyuk of the afternoon, she adds that the situation in the region remains difficult and the weather does not contribute to the completion of this operation on the kinburg spit, which is part of mykolayivska oblast, the enemy is still present and he continues attacks on the opposite bank, in general, there are no critical changes on the southern front, the ukrainian

military is working on the bodies of the occupiers, in particular , on the left bank of the dnieper, religion as a weapon , russia continues to use faith to discredit ukraine, say experts of the american institute of war studies, the process shows the reaction of the russian military bloggers on the presence of ukrainian soldiers at the christmas service in the kyiv-pechersk lavra , the researchers note the so-called bloggers they called it a massacre of the moscow patriarchate, they say that the lavra is captured by heretics and schismatics, analysts emphasize that ukraine does not suppress the religious freedoms of orthodox christians, but takes measures to distance our cultural heritage from the community that is connected with the kremlin and its introduction of war, russia out of armenia with such slogans continue protests by

armenian national democrats near the russian military base in the city of gyumri, picketers outraged by the fact that the russian federation betrayed armenia and acts in the region in the interests of azerbaijan and turkey are talking about blocking the lachin corridor in the so-called nagorno-karabakh since december 12. the corridor is under siege by azerbaijani eco-activists, according to some armenian politicians , this is happening with the support of the russian army. at the moment, the armenian police were able to push the protesters away from the central gate of the russian base, among them are those detained in kremenchuk a knocked-out russian t-72 military tank was installed on victory square. the trophy was won by our fighters during the slobojan counteroffensive in september last year, in general, during the liberation of kharkiv oblast, the ukrainian army captured and destroyed hundreds of units of russian equipment

, the place immediately became a popular photo area among the citizens and guests of kremenchuk . about the fact that a large-caliber gun was working there, it just started burning and they ran away from it well, it's very elementary what's going on new joy has become in the center of lviv, the annual procession of stars took place this is a christmas festival stars from lviv and the region, the purpose of the event is to popularize old christmas traditions . this year, the old ones created and decorated their

works on various themes, some showed unique paintings, others gave colors meanings . today the military saw a star . today we saw a star from the camouflage nets of the armed forces of ukraine with thanks to our armed forces of ukraine, that is, another one is added every year. another. well, maybe not one of the best traditions, but the star is there in order to convey events, even those that are happening in ukraine now, last year we were not more delicate colors of the star, and now everything should be saturated, everything united and to be closer to the

victory at the top, such a symbol stork stork is written there the gas in their native land because many of our ukrainians had to leave ukraine with their children here are the news on this i will meet you at 19:00 i urge you to read more about important things on our website ask tv because my colleagues work for you 24/7 we are also available on social networks, youtube, telegram, instagram, twitter , subscribe to our channels, like, be close and in a few moments, the espressova broadcast will continue vitaly portnikov, you have found a working store in three letters, it is closed, there is no light, please, this

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vasyl's big broadcast in winter a project for smart and caring people in the evening, we will continue the information broadcast on the espresso tv channel with you, vitaly portnikov, today is a lebanese doctor of economics , director of the institute of demography and social research of the national academy sciences of ukraine, congratulations. good evening. add the credits, please. well, i'm not telling you, i'm telling the group, you can't see the screen because you don't have light. we have something else to see. i am very glad to hear from you, ladies, and i would like to discuss your recent demographic forecasts with you. when you said that, in principle,

ukraine is facing a serious demographic crisis, i would like you to explain to our viewers what is meant by such demographic crisis well, in fact, depopulation has been going on for many years since 1991, their deaths have exceeded the birth rate since 1994, a negative migration somersault was added to this, and in recent years labor migration has been very, very intense, that is, people did not register their departure, but in reality they traveled outside of ukraine, therefore population reduction was inevitable, you can say a lot about where the root came from and believe me, the 60s of the last century, but the war definitely accelerated it very much, that is, we currently do not know for sure

we don't know how many people died, i.e. over the war mortality, and i don't mean only those who died from shelling or on the battlefields. i mean even just an increase in the death rate from cardiovascular diseases from just about anything, because people eat abnormally. they are hypothermic, they live mainly in constant stress, they do not receive timely, high-quality medical care, well, these are inevitable things, and we will find out for sure somewhere , well, after the census, that is, not earlier than the 26th, i hope that at the end of the 25th it will be possible to conduct a census if we are dreams like this, if the war ends next year, and in addition to the fact that we have

lost a lot, we have lost a lot due to mortality, we have lost a lot, have already lost and will lose again due to a decrease in the birth rate, so that the generation of parents at least replaces it numerically, generations of children need the average woman to give birth to 2:15 children in her entire life. in the 21st year, this is the last year for which we already have data, this indicator was set at one and one-tenth, that is, almost half as much as in the 22nd the year of birth has obviously decreased, but it has not decreased critically. i think that it will decrease significantly more next year, well, for purely natural reasons, children who were born at least in the first half of the 22nd year, they are

already in the embryo, the question is, before the war, they were in the 23rd year this will be a year of a very serious drop in the birth rate. i dream that it would be 08. and besides, we see huge population losses due to emigration outside of ukraine, and in fact, a lot can be said about how many people actually left because european countries give hundreds of numbers and the un high commissioner gives one number, our border guards give completely different numbers. to be honest, i am more inclined to trust the data of ukrainian border guards.

in the polls, uh, 90% say that they will return to ukraine no matter what. they are just waiting for the end of the hot phase, you know, i don't really believe in it. and the longer the war lasts, the less people will return to ukraine because firstly, the destruction of housing and the economy will be greater, people will simply have nowhere to return, and there will be no way they will have housing and some kind of work. and secondly, the longer the war lasts, the longer they will live abroad and the more they will adapt to this structure in that life, so there are a lot of doubts that 90% will return. i think that

60% will return, god forbid that 70% will return, and this will definitely reflect on the demographic situation after the war. a few years after the war, the baby boom will continue and the mass, you know, there will be a large-scale return and decrease in mortality, but it will not be as strong as we would like, so the situation will definitely improve compared to today, but it will not be like this, you already know too much that's why we can't rely on some examples, what i mean is that i remember the yugoslav war very well and i remember

that when i came to germany there were such periods of time when i generally communicated with you er in croatian language in er in various institutions there yes here croatia was so much that they just composed it you said the core of the service area then after there 2-3 years after the war passed it was all over we were left with some islands the character of croatian diasporas, but islands in particular. and the general mass of people disappeared, they simply went back, many will return, i am far from thinking that everyone will remain there according to the worst estimates, that is what we observed , observed there in various wars of the 20th century , somewhere around 30% returned. i i am convinced that more will return to ukraine,

but it will still not be a 100% return, as far as we can accurately estimate these numbers when it comes to the departure of women with children without husbands. there will be departure of men to their families in europe or women with children to their men in ukraine these are separated families. the economy of ukraine. these women who left with their children to other countries, a huge part of them have higher education according to polish and german e-e researchers, 70% of our women have higher education, those who left there with work there are very difficult today and a large

part those women who left and started working. they do not work according to their specialty and do not work in those workplaces whose social status corresponds to their habits, aspiration to the usual way of life, and so on, so they will not be very willing stay abroad and if there is a quick recovery of the economy, that is , jobs will be created quickly in ukraine, first of all , definitely. i came back along the hill

through those streets that were very badly destroyed in the spring, a large part of the houses have already been rebuilt, people live there, these are private houses, people restored them as best they could, but they restored them and they live there there are definitely those who have not been restored, but a large part of them, as they said, the majority of them are restored, people have returned, people live here, it is not a fact that they returned from abroad, it is possible that some of them returned from western ukraine, where there is no work and where there is no normal housing well, because western ukraine is just a fog, people are not able to settle down settle down normally well, by the way, i have a very important point: which regions will people return from, which regions will these people be, you know

, such a political issue. i have doubts about chernihiv sumy oblast and part of kharkiv oblast, albeit to a lesser extent, i.e. maybe if there really will be another attempt on the part of belarus, it might affect volyn as well, but let’s say kyiv oblast, i have no doubt that people will return here, kyiv will return, klitschko is telling the truth that already now before the war , the number may be difficult for me to estimate. i don’t know where he got the question, but at least some of those who now live in kyiv are not kyivans, they are people from those regions from where they fled to kyiv. well, in kyiv there are no such crazy bombings as there are in

zaporizhzhia oblast in kharkiv oblast and so on. if we talk about where exactly the economy will develop from the point of view of labor resources, you will not be afraid that the development of the economy will be geographically shifted towards the central and western oblasts, because the southern the eastern ones will not be the first central ones . what should we do? i am not saying what we can do. i just want you and i to evaluate the demographic resources. you know, well, most likely in ukraine somewhere a couple of years after the war when it all comes to a head, if there is nothing catastrophic there, like nuclear weapons , then there will be somewhere around

30-35 million. the centers in the west are unlikely because the regions are capable. they have a very limited ecological capacity. there is no place to build new enterprises. the relocation that has just been carried out. well, it is small. there were 750. the last information i saw was that 750 enterprises arrived. well, okay, during this time, maybe increased, let a thousand entrepreneurs still not so not so the industrial aggregate that can change the situation is not in the west there is no place to place enterprises well, you will not place them in garah i understand that there will not

be huge enterprises where the entire production cycle will be concentrated in one place and they will be in separate districts, well, from the point of view of security, it is better not easier for the use of labor, but still, it is unlikely to be a complete move to the west, rather it will be central ukraine well, there seems to be where to put it like that cherkasy poltava kirovohrad oblast well, there seems to be somewhere, you know, the problem here is that we have all this industrial production was concentrated in the east, it is difficult to talk about it now i don't think there is a center to keep strategic production there rather

for he just needs to be transferred somewhere, but whether we want it or not, the entire territory of ukraine, well, we see it, the entire territory of ukraine is being shot at, this is a fact, but the possibility, let's say, of the offensive of foreign troops, is more probable love, definitely, and that is why i say that from the east. if i were to decide this, i would still try to remove the strategic production. there is still a rather important point , uh, about which you and i should consult. if you were going out, what do you think about in the east, the strategic production of issues is not even your decision, it may be a matter of objective regularity, and here are the people who went abroad from the eastern regions and they

have their own regional mentality in one way or another, and they understand that they they will have to return to ukraine, but not to the regions of their residence because they do not have jobs there. yes, it will be a problem, but since they will be forced to return to the non-western ukraine of which they are afraid, rightly or not, that is another question. i think it is unfair, but they after all, it should not be, well, if we are not talking about the urban area of ​​the dnipropetrovsk and kharkiv regions, and it does not exist, of course, and i agree , the same and the zaporizhia region and the petrovsk region, and then kharkiv will not go anywhere there kharkiv is not an issue in the region from the point of view of the placement of labor resources. you

mean necessarily specific. it is a very specific center. it is very different from dnipro from what point of view. well , there may be another industry there, it is no longer in kharkiv, well, at the moment, it is one yes, she can work, maybe you can work with him, the theoretical institutes of the national academy of sciences work in basements, but they work . well, they lost it after the 14th year, but it was possible to withdraw more from the institutes. well, in kharkiv there

were factories, institutes that are related to applied industries, there are institutes in which technical equipment plays a very important role. well, let's say the economic institute. well, what did you take a computer the computer went under my arm. to be honest, technical institutes are another matter. we took some institutes out of kharkiv there, and some could not be taken out because they have a production facility and refuse to leave. i know many cases, even in our branch has an institute whose employees refuse to leave, we offered them in kyiv to evacuate it here, they don’t want it and you tell me