well, it didn’t bring them any effect, because no one relied on it. sorry for the slang, but regarding the negotiations, well, about the negotiations of the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi said everything that needed to be said at the g20 . at the ball, he put forward 10 points, 10 demands for ukrainian peace, and there it is clearly possible to note that the basic principles are the complete withdrawal of troops from russia as of 1991, there are internationally recognized borders, the release of prisoners and reparations, and only this can become the basis for any negotiations, moreover, there are two questions: how ending this war is one of volodymyr zelenskyi's 10 points, and he also talks about preventive measures. in other words, we should now talk not only about the fact that we can theoretically

end the war through negotiations under those conditions, but also so that we do not to allow war in the future, those preventive measures that will not allow the russian federation to repeat what they are doing, to repeat the attack on ukraine, and this denuclearization did not talk about it. volodymyr zelenskyi is deprived of the russian federation federation of nuclear weapons for the turf component in general well, accordingly, the exclusion of the russian federation from the un security council, where it has definitely not been legally for a long time, oleksiy, let's talk about the presumably new wave of mobilization in russia. ukrainian intelligence says that it can be after january 15, what is this in practice for us, it means, in your opinion , will they go to fight en masse or will they flee the country en masse again, well, look, i'm not a military expert, i can only evaluate the policy of the military component of it

process, but this, at least in my opinion, suggests that putin and putin's entourage, let's say, are not determined to use nuclear weapons because india and china have very clearly told them their position, that is, they essentially have the only element left to manage the situation - this is additional mobilization what's more, they have already announced that before the new wave, as far as we understand , the borders in the russian federation will already be closed. that is, in principle, this is a very clear signal to absolutely all of the russian federation that those who do not want to do not support the regime go die well, who among them wants to become cannon fodder? and who is the owner of at least some small business in the countryside of the federation? the russian federation

simply needs to flee. and they are totally used by propaganda. well, well, people who are simply already old, who are physiologically physically unable to leave the territory of the russian federation, yes, it will have to be even more entrenched due to totalitarian mechanisms on putin's rule in russia federation, because no. no, in principle, no political protests or mass demonstrations. when all those who disagreed with the regime leave, we will unfortunately not be able to talk anymore. there will simply be nowhere to run, but this putin is not the way to actually anywhere, the more they will mobilize , the more they will concentrate and bring their mobilized mobilized to the front, even to say the right thing.

the more we will hit with our modern accurate nerso systems and our heymasses in the great cluster, respectively, of russian mobilized ones. and the more they will die on the crimean fronts, the more their situation inside the russian federation will change not in favor of putin and the putin regime. well , mr. oleksiy, we started with christmas truce, let's celebrate christmas as such a holiday and let's finish with the fact that metropolitan epiphany held a festive service on the territory of the lar reserve, but the day before the priests of the pcmp were somewhat excited and urged the administration of the reserve not to allow an epiphany, threatening even criminal liability, and in general there is such a story that during martial law it is not possible to break this lease agreement, then we have to pass another four months, in general, what do you think should be the fate or according to the law, after all, there should be a

territory of the lavra and sacred buildings. and in general, quite a lot of the uoc mp in kyiv in ukraine. well, actually , not minister tkachenko has already put all the dots on the one who wants well, in fact, in detail to analyze the legal point of view, precisely the legal point of view, because there are many political points of view, we are not talking about it now, so he can analyze it for the speeches of his explanation well, not in principle from this position, we also know the position of the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi, that ukraine would never interfere in the life of any church of ukraine in ukraine according to the constitution of the separation of church and state, but here there is a question of eh in the usual eh taboo after those eh procedural actions and after their results eh from security service of ukraine when we saw what was found in the churches of the ukrainian orthodox church of the ukrainian orthodox church of the ukrainian orthodox church,

some church ministers have well-founded serious questions that are automatically imposed on the ukrainian orthodox church of the ukrainian orthodox church of ukraine, because the security factor, especially during martial law, is a church that would even potentially may have canonical connections , including with the russian federation, yes, they raise many questions, but regarding the lavra well, let's once again tell the truth to all people, the lavra is not the property of the uoc mp, that is, the moscow patriarchate, it is the property of the state and the lavra has always been the property of the state. and if, so to speak, a decision was made by the appropriate commission after a request and an epiphany about the possibility of holding a service there, that's what this commission, according to the current legislation, made this decision on. and that 's all. absolutely nothing, ukraine

acts exclusively within the limits of the current legislation, and there is nothing more to comment on here, and there is actually no political component here either, olexi. thank you, have a good day and morning. oleksiy burychenko, a political scientist, was with us at this time. he remained true to his oath until the end. 37-year-old police investigator yurii chap did not leave his native bucha from the first days of the occupation , helped people with evacuation and resisted the occupiers, but on march 5, 2022, communication with him was interrupted due to a month ago, his body was found in mass graves near the local church about the last days of the hero and his defense during the occupation , his relatives and colleagues told our correspondent oleksandr kryvokulsky that this was the badge of my son's policeman or yuriy

oleksandrovich bach, who was on it. he was recognized by it when he was taken from the mass grave. this is the only thing left of the son, the father did not even have family photos, because the occupiers fired at their house during the heavy fighting near buchi. it burned down. only walls remained from the once cozy home. when they began to be actively active hostilities . he came to me and asked for permission to leave for the settlement of bucha, where his parents and family were located, with the aim of evacuating them in the future, and they will return to us where we will be. well, where were we in at that time, yuriy was in one of the operational groups of the police. he went to the territory of the community and

followed the movement of the convoy of russian troops. but after leaving for bucha, he did not return to the bearded man, and the connection was quickly put down, and we were already without contact only an analog walkie-talkie was the only way we could communicate . we even decided to take up the defense here because he had a weapon with him. the car, the weapon, and he drove out of the yard, at least he understood that if they come here, there are no chances for the children, for the mother, for the wife, according to the words of the father, the son was able to get to the apartment he rented in the center of buchi, since then

they have not seen each other again the last time we spoke, he said that i was communicating with the local police department and would continue to work with them in the future . fierce battles were already taking place in the city. the russian army mercilessly shot civilians throughout the month of march. there was an occupation for a month, and many people were killed by us russians, many peaceful people and these people, some of them were lying in the morgue, some of them were lying on the streets, killed. there was hope that maybe he evacuated, maybe he left , but the information was that he went to the police station and did not return on march 10, the first burial took place here, there were two large trenches, on the first day, about 60-7 people were buried, i could be wrong, because many months have already passed. and in general, there was still a

second trench and several individual burials, a total of 116 people were buried here among them, 30 women, two children, one policeman, at the beginning of march, the station where yury worked, the occupiers completely destroyed this office in which yuri chabakh's workplace was located, his desk with a computer was located here, er, there was furniture, where his work cases were located here as far as i remember, there was a chair on which he rested when he was on oak duty, colleagues remember yuri as purposeful , confident, and the company presented itself only from the positive side and was accepted the leadership of the department at that time transfer him to the criminal investigation sector, where he worked for the last three years, there are data on exactly how he died, it seems that he took this

molotov cocktail and left in my opinion. it was an armored personnel carrier on april 7 after the deoccupation of buchi on the territory of the temple they bought the bodies of the dead from the mass grave, it was possible to identify yuri by the token on his clothes, a number of forensic examinations were conducted and the conclusion was that yuri was killed by a sniper's bullet before the war. he was er, he had a rank senior lieutenant of the police, and documents were submitted for a captain, but he already received a captain on easter by order of the head of the national police of ukraine, the police officer was given the rank of police captain, the policeman was buried in khmelnytskyi, in the hometown of his parents, the only

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then join the search they will return home in marathon the only news at 9:15 p.m. this is the third year ukraine has to pay more than uah 122 billion in foreign debt and payments on the internal debt amount to uah 536 billion. this is reported by the press service of the ministry of finance of ukraine. the majority of the external debt amounts to the repayment of loans granted by international financial organizations. 97.5 billion hryvnias, the rest are commercial and official loans, sometimes the gold and currency reserve at the end of the year was 29 billion dollars. and these are the same reserves as at the beginning of the war, the head of the committee on rent payments

, environmental tax and taxation said about this on the air of the tv channel. apc of the committee of the verkhovna rada of ukraine on finance, tax and customs policy, oleksiy ustenko, and on this topic we will talk with ivan, we must be an expert in international economics, mr. ivan, congratulations, congratulations , how long do you remember oleg, yes, good morning based on these figures, in particular with regard to the state debt, let's take the last 10 years, er, experts consider this temporary component, if we take the 12th year, the state board set there more than 60 billion dollars 64, it seems that it grew every year, the trend was somewhere around 8 somewhere around six, somewhere on 10 billion, but the 23rd year is unprecedented because the national debt will exceed the country's gdp for the first time. that is, all the goods and services that will be produced in the 23rd year will be less than the national debt. well, of course, in our country, war is one of the most - such more important reasons factors, more than half of our budget is spent on the defense sector. but

is this a threat to our economy, to our ability of the country as a whole, you know right away i want to say that ukraine is not the only country . i will say that according to this ratio, even the current situation, even when we are now supposedly reaching this figure, it is 100%. this is not the worst indicator, there are countries in which the debt exceeds gdp, and this is one of the leading countries in the world, for example, japan has a rather significant the debt of the united states of america in general. this is some kind of series. when this debt of the united states, it is constantly accumulating several times in my memory, and they raised the debt ceiling because they constantly set it. after two or three years, this ceiling is reached.

negotiations are underway in the united states about that that it is necessary to raise this ceiling and even one of the richest people, and that is actually in the arms of buffett, he once even mentioned that it is possible that the concept of the debt ceiling should be eliminated altogether, because on the one hand, if this is such a significant indicator that the debt is really large and the burden is large with there is nothing else wrong with it. why , because all the countries exist and the question is to what extent the country is a component of international finances, and if it, let’s say, feels normal in this world, then it cannot be said that it has excessive debt, this is a problem for it because it concerns ukraine. i wouldn't say that the fact that we reach 100% is already such a terrible thing, so the main thing is normal relations with creditors and countries that give money to explain to them that the

situation is so difficult right now because of this situation we are asking not only for financial help, we are asking for the restructuring of this debt, its transfer to the period after the end of the war, moreover, not only immediately after the end, but after the restoration of the economy of ukraine, then we will be able to return it. i think that to those countries that gave us money and to whom do we owe them and the institutions first of all and they must understand this situation so i hope that restructuring will be carried out during 2023 yes we also hope for that mr. ivan but let's talk about what is happening now it is interesting to know what is happening with the russian economy, because russian energy prices are falling rapidly. how is this now affecting their lives? i want some bad

news . fleeing from the russian federation is just a simple example and i do not yet have data for the fourth quarter of last year if in the first quarter approximately half a trillion rubles were withdrawn from the russian federation the second quarter is even more, but also there 549 e-e billions came out of the russian federation , then in the third quarter, let me remind you that in the third quarter, after its completion, the so-called partial mobilization was already announced , one trillion 470 billion rubles were withdrawn from the russian federation, if we compare this figure by the figure of how much money was withdrawn from the russian federation in the third quarter of 2021, we will see that the withdrawal of funds from russia has increased 26 times, that is, you understand that the

money now goes to russia, everything that russia earns is partially lost immediately because of the fact that everything that has been done goes to other countries. where do they go? well, we partially understand it. these are the countries. when where do russian citizens move, that is, armenia, kazakhstan, georgia, that is, these countries receive these funds in accordance with the law . uh, russia is starting, maybe right, they're all right. they like to talk about it, but the reality is a little different, so let's see, because i'll remind you from december 5th, but they can't uh, sell by oil meter to the european union by the way, what's interesting. i looked at the special share and how it changed in the structure of imports

of oil, gas, and coal by the european union, and it will be sharply reduced during 2022 . the quarter of 2022 is already 13,500 , i.e. and this is money that russia earned and it will be a big problem for the kemerovo region. why, because the entire economy of this region of russia was built on the fact that they mined coal and sold it to the eu now they can't do it, well, will they be able to do it at all, at all, the forecasts are such that you call 12% there, the forecasts are such that due to european and american sanctions, due to a reduction in production, which is also very important, production may even decrease by 25-30% in the 23rd year oil and gas well, we'll see, and by the way, the russians have already started touching their so -called welfare fund, they have one, they have

already begun to spend those funds in part, and it is inviolable, but let's give russia time to ukraine , is there anyway? what should we wait for in in the context of stabilization of the hryvnia, well, in the 22nd year of containment of the nbu, after all, their toolkit mechanisms have worked, the exchange rate has been fixed , and there are already such sharp jumps, and there is, in principle, no forecasted exchange rate of 42, even 45, somewhere within this mark until the end of the year. coming in means currency eyes, credit programs, inflows from abroad. well, if the situation in uh-uh will be stable on the uh-uh front, what else can affect the exchange rate on this stability, and does the stabilization of the hryvnia still affect it, well, little by little was selling gold and currency reserves at least at the end of the 22nd year, it was how it could affect anu, first of all, of course , the intensification of the attack on domestic energy

facilities, that is, in fact, many factors, the only thing you know about the grain of the black sea grain initiative is, in principle, how it will work for me moreover, the situation when russia declared that it was withdrawing from it, but no, it did not lead to anything, because the republic of turkey immediately said that it is okay, we will work without you. and when there was no russia, then instead it seems that turkey missed 44 boats per day. this is a demonstration of russia that let's go back because you wo n't do anything. and as for other factors , let's really see how much the adaptability of the economy that took place in so that we have to admit that our economy and in these difficult conditions it more or less adapted to the forecast of gdp reduction, which was almost 40% from 35 to 40%. now we are talking about the

figure of 30.4% for the past year, that is, the worst has not happened, but this year we will see, but firstly, there is adaptability, secondly, there is the help of our partners, which we see is growing and will be greater, as the ministry of finance says , and i hope that it will be. by the way, the black sea grain initiative has been expanded and extended to other ports. he forbade ukraine to show the exchange rate, we know that in kyiv we do not see it in other cities, in my opinion it is already possible to depart from this and by demonstrating the fact that there is stabilization and even in these conditions the exchange rate is not going anywhere because for some reason they banned it because they were worried that the exchange rate would really fly into the abyss, but we see that well, there is no nature because these comments on this matter, the dollar exchange rate may remain

stable until the end of the year, people's deputy oleksii ustenko said, we can count on the fact that the dollar exchange rate will not change, that is it may even be less than 40 hryvnias because the national bank has absolutely every opportunity to keep the rate at this level, i agree with mr. oleksiy because we really see that there is stability and there is help help by the way, it's a grant from the usa once again. i remind you that it's not something that needs to be returned , because i have reasons to at least save the exchange rate, maybe 500 hryvnias , you know, in soviet times there was such a joke that traffic policemen do not give change as a bribe, yes if it is possible to compare, of course such parallels can be drawn, but i do not remember. to be honest, the dollar has already rolled back a lot in the long-term perspective of it when there

are some fluctuations or for the euro dollar to turn back to some of the previous limit of its limits, but still , oleksiy ustenko says that it can be even for less than uah 40. so what we are doing right now is a realistic prospect, he definitely will not roll back, he really does not remember such a story but what can be let's say it is 37 e 36 in this in this i really, really believe why because funds are really coming in, they are strengthening the currency plus our partners , they are very negative about the too strong weakening of the currency, even i will remind you that the 80s were there significant complications relations between the united states of america and japan due to the fact that the united states of america considered that it was too much, let's say, they weakened the gena in japan and put pressure on the japanese government not to take such steps, so i do not rule out that

ukraine will also, let's say, ask very much to somehow we strengthened our currency, because the weaker the currency, the irony is that the weaker the currency , the better the prospects for our exporters, and the more difficult it is for exporters from the united states of other countries to get goods to ukraine there, so i do not rule out that there were such requests, and therefore i believe that it's quite logical, on the other hand, i understood, on the other hand, you don't know , we have such a positivist mood, well, in principle, the morning should be like that. yes, and the beginning of the year, but well, on the one hand, what we will summarize is already an interim summary. the same japan or the united states. they have colossal foreign debts there for decades, we their economies, in principle, do not suffer but grow china is the same, although china also invests little in other countries if we talk about dollar factors, all of them have certain nuances of the tools that will work they indicated, but well, what about jobs, what about salaries, what about the revival of business. we

remember that in recent months, due to the pandemic , due to the war, it has only decreased in general . there may be an unexpected problem because we said that oh , there will be no work, this is such an association, maybe another that many sonatas, many people have left and now these people will be lacking in the economy. that is, i do not rule out that this year at least in the second half of 2023, ukraine will really need the return of people who left why because they will really be needed for the domestic economy, so i hope that after all such crazy people, we will return to ukraine together and rebuild the economy, including ivanus, an expert on international economics, who was just with us we thank all the viewers who were with us for the past six hours, let me remind you that we worked for you, hanna is shouting, nazar is long and

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