expert for a very, very long time. they are talking about it there with these leopards and this is just the situation - this what is the most convenient option for the west to supply this tank because there is an infrastructure there that is still being built there is repair of these tanks in several western armies. that is, there is a whole infrastructure there to first supply these tanks and then also maintain them there. as far as i understand, it is more difficult with other types of tanks than with western tanks, let's say with abrams, which is a more complex technique because i understood it there, but on the other hand, now germany is like if i understand it correctly, it is waiting for the first step to be

taken by another country in the west, probably great britain with the united states of france , and what will happen if the first step is from other countries that if germany were not the first country here, what kind of tanks would be enough for ukraine, unfortunately, we have such a difficult situation here, and also, well, in society, there is, well, half of the people are against germany handing over such tanks to ukraine, they are simply afraid what it will involve in germany in this war, and panas well, you see, the same story happened with the patriot air defense systems, but germany did not even want these polish patriots to move to ukraine, but nevertheless, when the usa

provided the first system, germany also agreed to transfer and itself system, and there was much less fear, what is the root of these fears, what is the reason, well, that is, let others be the first, and then the first will take on russia's nuclear strike, or what are these, what are the fears actually? well, it's only tanks, it's not nuclear missiles are not the first two you transfer to ukraine. well, i think it cannot be explained rationally, because there is simply such an irrational uh, people are afraid of uh, a national element. they think that if we transfer some uh, heavy weapons for ukraine, this will mean for putin that he, er, will start a war also against germany, well, unfortunately, so many people think that, well, it is especially difficult with tanks here, because it would be uh, such an

offensive weapon without weapons, and people think that it will some kind of uh fundamental change if we are going to supply these tanks this it's difficult to clarify with some rational thoughts. and what is the attitude of german society now, is there still this desire to support the ukrainians or are they already tired of the war? well, in principle, there is still support. but as i said, there are many people who believe that it should be only such er individual support in order not to involve germany in this war er this is what factor a is, in principle, i think now er most of them

support and these last three months when there were these missile strikes blows on er it rather increases support for ukrainian cities german society for ukraine, we often talk about the responsibility of the government, angela merkel, for arming russia for these gas pipelines , nord stream one nord stream-2, the fact that germany actually gave money to russia to arm its army, but we never talk about the responsibility of society , including ordinary germans, buying this cheap gas and heating their homes, fueling their economy with cheap gas, actually sponsored terrorists who bought with this money, created rockets, planes and tanks that all this arrived and flew to ukraine. here is this discussion in germany. i understand that it is not

conducted like this at all, about responsibility for well , for this economic support of the aggressor country for decades, you can say please, well , it has also started, and now, for example, such a murderous journalist adler has published a book ukrainians and us. that is, it is no longer about merkel or steiner or schroeder. it is about the germans. yes, what is our responsibility for all these developments. well, then. there was such an opinion among the germans that if we trade with russia, it will be if we had such insurance against war, the more we would have such economic relations, the more peace there would be. unfortunately, such a philosophy was stupid. well, now people have realized that it does not work like that. well, this discussion has only just

begun. well, i hope it will continue to go on and that we will someday have some kind of government report, some kind of government report, which will all be critical and analyzed. does it actually depend on the views of the germans depending on where they live, in which part of germany or in the one that was under the occupation of the soviet union, were those who were lucky enough to avoid the influences of the russian world? yes, unfortunately, in eastern germany , public opinion there is significantly different, it is more pro-russian, you can even say partially anti-ukrainian, if people imagine themselves, what is there there is really, this is the soviet union

, the past, which gives putin the right to do this. what is he doing, and what is the west there? knows that all these discussions are somehow embarrassing for of east germans, of course, not all of them, but there is much more support for this apologetics of moscow than in the west germany of mr. andres, note bloomberg, putin was not able to freeze europe, our american colleagues report, well, they just quote the german minister of economy, robert habak, his name is e, he said next , as far as we can judge, the danger of the collapse of european industry has been eliminated . well, he said. he is one of the key architects of the country's response to the energy

crisis during a trip to norway . he said, well, who actually took the place of russia, norway became the biggest gainer from this story, the supplier of gas to ukraine and other countries of the european union, and andersen germany, yes and who is the most important to me here, just now, on the phone, it will be like this for the conversation, thank you for the ukrainian the language is a traditional address, moments, a political scientist, an analyst of the stockholm center for the study of eastern europe was with us, they talked a little about the germans , about germany and about europe. triggered by russia's invasion of ukraine last february has already cost europe nearly one trillion dollars due to rising energy prices, a huge amount in response governments have provided more than $700 billion in aid to help companies and consumers cope with the blow, they are also freeing themselves from dependence on russian energy especially natural gas, the european union

no longer imports coal and crude oil from russia, and gas supplies have significantly decreased , the block has filled some of the gaps by increasing the supply of gas from norway and supplying of liquefied natural gas from qatar, the united states, and other producers in germany, the warehouses are filled to about 91%, you know, they closed the valve and everything froze on it, compared to 50 percent a year ago, when russia was already equipping the warehouses under its control since then, the government of chancellor olaf schulz nationalized the local divisions of gazprom and spent a billion euros to replenish reserves , and we still cannot nationalize our regional oblenergo, as well as the bank alfa-banks and this trading platform ocean plaza of russian russian business, which is very much owned there quickly nationalized and goodbye a-a well, let's continue our marathon and add, we heard correctly, so there is already with us on the link of romance and low, an expert and

colonel of the reserve of the armed forces of ukraine, mr. roman, good morning to you, well, evaluate the latest situation on the battlefield please, bakhmut and soledar, what is going on there, who has a strategic initiative? these cities were mentioned even yesterday in his address. the ukrainian president said that ukraine will send additional military forces there. putin, before uh, the sixth day, uh, the russians, mainly chvk wagner, were transferred from podvakhmut, they removed their troops, and all that they had, about 10-15,000 people in the area of ​​the 15th battalion of tactical groups, were transferred to solidar because they could not take bakhmut they cannot use any methods to surround him . our konstantinov group

interferes with the south, and bakhmut surrounds the north. their place under the guise of the so -called armistice, eh, we entered the bakhmut region, the linear eh, russian units, mainly, eh, airborne paratroopers, who left in their time from the right bank of the kherson region, that is, they had such an operation in the area of ​​eh -е christmas of the russians such a rukirovka е and further all these units of the wagners basically began to carry out certain tactical actions in order to first surround the solider from the south, mainly in the north east, and the second to enter the city itself to the center of the city to the mine 1:3, this is practically

the center, well, they were knocked out by our troops who approached mm a-a rezinovaya solved their plan e and certain reserves and systems were transferred there reinforced, where did the syrian general go, the commander of the ground forces , responsible for this direction, fulfilled certain tasks, stayed put, then there is no problem if now the situation is more or less occupied and controlled. i think in the near future they will tighten up. one or two brigades at this point, since in fact almost all of the er, chvk wagnerstvo is concentrated in the area of ​​the soldier, and er, it will be done to occupy some of those positions, er , which they managed to at

least occupy, er, the encirclement of the solidar did not happen to them это не борлачание е-э бахмута также сейчас не не части as they say, panoramic and in general, the strategic importance of the soledar. was it just that they needed to tell their citizens about certain achievements, so we did not take bakhmut, but we took the soldier, does he really have strategic importance for the further development of events on the battlefield eh strategic importance and bakhmut himself, that is, bakhmut does not give eh to the russians, he goes further in the direction of slavyansk and kramatorsk and to the west in the direction of chasov yar eh and that is exactly why in order to take bakhmut , they cannot do this in the first place, and they have the task of his encirclement, at least half-encircle, to take the so- called operational environment, and it is solidar that prevents it, therefore, they decided first solidar, if he speaks purely from his point of view, first solidar

to neutralize so that it was possible to move on to the bahmut encirclement. well , again, they did not even succeed in bypassing solidar, er , later. and already from an informational point of view, yes. victory eh at the beginning of the year according to normal soledar bakhmut, our military is telling us that the russians are exhausting them and just the infantry that goes non-stop now after the holidays in russia they will announce another wave of mobilization, they plan to collect 500,000 somewhere in two months throw them into battle again in the spring. will we have enough strength to repulse another invasion, because we understand that their a-a human fund is huge, moreover, we see

that nothing stops the russians, er, nothing stops them not that they do not have weapons, not that they are not trained. they are still ready to go to the army, they are ready to go to war against ukraine, but they are not ready to go against their government , against their power -he is a weapon against the power against its own pastukhov, of course, do not rise, you are not deployed. i would not say that the number of russians is already very, uh, not the final figure, the projected figures of obrezirov are around 15 million, this is roughly 10 % of the total population. there are russians, but in reality , the numbers are cut off - resources are in the region of the duma with

half a million of them, which can really be called up somehow and, er, carry out certain mobilization actions . the mobilization structure in russia, of course, is narrow . the neck of the russians, the russian mobilization system passes through itself 150,000 people 2-3 months ago, we can clearly see from the spring-autumn call -up of conscripts that they have somewhere around 120,150,000 months of full mobilization, clean demobilization, which was announced at the end of september. here they are in two or three months, they were able to prepare more or less up to 200,000 people, even though they talked about how there would be 300. well, there is no 300 in sight, that is, up to 200, and they are not yet prepared. so far , nothing is being prepared for certain on the training grounds, including the forged ones, belarus is already slowly asking for it to appear on our, on

our southeastern borders, on our field, it is difficult to say that there will be some kind of massive mobilization, they can distribute summonses, let’s say to two million people, but they can prepare one more time i will repeat 150-200,000 2-3 months ago, most likely in the spring, and they will have it for mobilization, that is, it is ready, ready already on the way out, so to speak, about 200-300 people do not hesitate, they will have to go there next a wave of mobilization will be detected, but they will resist again in their mobilization structure, which will have to be called up in the spring, because most likely they will gain the maximum that they will be able to put out for the spring, this is the wave of 150-200,000 people, and again they will start to hear in january что so far, the mobilization system has not been freed from the conscripts they

called up in november, that is, that is, only at the end of january, it will release them later, eh, to accept 150-200,000 people, we are on quests, of course, the optimal option is them to meet already at certain borders, that is, to meet them, grind them down and start moving further, if the weather allows us and if the partners do not let you down, they will transfer the amount of weapons that we ordered them, then, in principle, together we can already go to the border of the 91st year and hold them already this wave is the second part of the partial mobilization of the general mobilization. the situation is a--a bella - it's a bran- bryansk, kursk, belgorod, voronezh and rostov regions, that is, in the mode of allowable defense, active defense,

we can grind it, by the way, this wave for 3-4 months already until the summer, and then they will clean up the ukrainian land от россиян или выполнять каке-то другие функционы е-е, быту программы выставляется мироно-политическим страница пронораманы well, what about 300,100,000 russians? will there be anything to arm them with ? the second question is whether ukraine should not announce another mobilization or do we have enough human resources here and technically, the technology is now being given to us to fulfill the tasks set for the liberation of the territory from the russians . which is already working for three shifts, they are trying to

reach certain production volumes, but they don’t have time, first of all, they don’t have time, again, the system of the defense industry itself, finally, that is, if roughly 1,000 machines were allowed it didn't happen, that is, they can produce a certain amount of projectiles, let's say, 5,000 rockets per month, a rocket when there are 30 rockets . they can’t call up 15 million, there’s just nothing to fight with these 15 mm, and because here you have the right, it will be very difficult for them to do everything, at least eh, to fill in the equipment any amount of mobilized is the best option for the russians. this summer is yes, in six months, they can reach the maximum production capacity, and they are already

asking how to feed their troops. the equipment is much smaller than the amount of equipment that our partners can give us later. there is not even money here, uh, in the direction of russia, we can have more, much more , there is a question about how we can mobilize our people. which already subscribers are fighting to replace mm if there is a need for certain rotational moments. well, there is a new amount of equipment that even we now have at least announced that they will transmit it. we need resources, including human resources. it is unlikely that this is necessary. well, from my understanding , such coupon

mobilizations will declare themselves harmful in ukraine . states are people who can work with weapons, that is, it is permissible, and the same is the system of the ministry of internal affairs - it is hundreds of thousands of people, the same thing, prosecutors, the same thing, border guards, customs officers, that is, there is a whole spectrum of the population, which is very motivated to go to war the main motivation. everything else is already applied , so these are motivated people who can simply be replaced in the rotation mode. there is this carry out such a rotation. and then after the war, after our victory, our entire axis system will be, uh, mostly students of combat operations,

namely . good morning, a military expert, a colonel of the reserve of the armed forces of ukraine, was with us. but now we are adding valery kalinovsky to our conversation. moscow has sent to belarus echelons of the next echelons of military equipment, this equipment is already a little out of date, at least they noticed this p valeriya good morning are you with us i say hello good afternoon against the message of our general staff, russia transfers to belarus military equipment removed from storage for personnel training russia drives belarus rural equipment for long-term storage, according to her information, a significant amount of weapons and military equipment that is in the republic of belarus has been removed from storage, what is it

what kind of equipment and what kind of people are these, well, every day we talk about the fact that every day almost 700 to 800 new mobilized to the belarusians arrive there, what are they doing there, please, well, you know, if you look at last friday, there were three eshilos, they are military men who arrived from russia to belarus, among them two villages were not from the representative, let’s say personnel, and there was also equipment. the ministry of defense of belarus openly published photos of this equipment there, and some people can see what the equipment is. i noticed on it such a winter painting, that is, such a cerebral bina and it seems that all of it, that is, they are preparing there in er, let's take into account the fact that there is snow in the territory of belarus and, apparently, ukraine, or where they will be there, where they want, and also that this is really such an old technique, but it is that what they showed, maybe the ministry of defense of ukraine has additional information about this, i don't

know, there were two echelons with the military , it is somewhere about 800-900 in each, that is, per battalion. thus, we can say that the general composition is the personal composition of russian troops on the territory of belarus is somewhere around 12,000 people. well, now, well, it is not a strike group, it is where they are mainly mobilized. you can also see what kind of people there are. in the prison, he met with the russian military, said that we were doing a joint business, and there you could see what their tents looked like, what exactly these military men looked like, he talked there, but to notice that they were hiding their faces, russian soldiers who they saw lukashenka, they hid their faces, the pva do not train. they train like this , in general, the general mobilization in belarus is your

hunch, will it be or not? there is a lot of information about what lukashenko is going to announce. well, i would not be guided by hunches here, i would be guided by the facts. belarusian military officers, if they check the lists there, update them , call them to go and check themselves there. that is, it is a very outdated system for keeping records of conscripts, which was also in russia, in belarus it is also not better, it is not takes into account modern technologies, i.e. magazine lists and so on. and all of this is called on people to come there to update this information. well, for example, i am so-and-so military-bound, but i don't come right away, i didn't update anything, i changed the city where i lived, and so on. that is, that's all it is so ineffective and they will try to do something in belarus now, taking into account these problems of russia, but the conscription as such has not been announced and nothing can be ruled out, of course, but at the moment

if there is no such and such and the belarusians themselves somehow they are still thinking in the event that mobilization is announced, what should they do and take part in direct participation in the war against ukraine or avoid in some way, there is a similar question asked there by representatives of the employee of, say, the military part of the belarusian team of such a positional structure that operates and which monitors what is happening abroad, i.e. in belarus, among the military, among the men well, they say that those people who are currently serving , that is, the conscripts, the conscripts, the conscripts, those who are currently serving their time in the service, then of course they very uh, others are infiltrated by various kinds of propaganda, it is hard to say how they will act. and here he says, here in my house, that person told me that somewhere 10 of his acquaintances were called for re-registration, that is, to the

military commissariat. here they came, these 10 men, well , 30-40 men are already there years came, gathered, took vodka and talked and said that if there is a mobilization, we will go to fight for ukraine. that is, we will not, well , that is, their understanding is that we will go over to the side of ukraine, well, that's what a person who is close to such opposition circles said belarusians who are abroad, but i understand that those who do not live in barracks, they understand the situation, they understand who is the aggressor, who is the victim, and they understand that they do not want to fight, but if they have to, this is what they will do. well, there is no final answer here, but do not rule it out that they will simply hand over to the side of ukraine p . with this weapon against lukashenka, you should also mobilize, take weapons, then form , well, form partisan units or

regular units to fight with others, it is not even to fight for ukraine, but first to expel lukashenka there, then to figure out what to do there at the border. how do you feel about this idea ? in general, zenon pozniak spoke very disapprovingly about the so-called opposition government of svitlana tikhanovskaya. he said that this is all a project of the kremlin with the money of the kremlin and a russian project. is there unity among the belarusian opposition forces? i'm asking for a minute, you know i'm here, it doesn't matter how i feel or how anyone else feels, it's important how oleksandr lukashenko feels about such an idea and such an opportunity. if they are going to do it, i thought that lukashenko would not want it. therefore, this is the most important thing in this situation, but with regard to the unity of the opposition forces, because we have to think about what will happen after lukashenko. well, i think that his collapse will be together with the collapse of the russian empire, but

more it seems to me that there are a lot of different forces and very different well, in the end there were also a lot of agents in ukraine and in the same people's russia there were always agents of the kremlin agents of the kdb but now in the belarusian opposition how many such agencies are there 40 seconds this is a normal situation this happens but if we want to return belarus to a democratic state, it means that it must be dug up. there must be free elections here, there are no big exporters of belarusian positions, free elections , counting of votes, freedom of speech, and so on. everything can be arranged if this period of dictatorship ends. and tyros, well, at the moment it is not so hard for me to wait, yes, after all, we must win the war and defeat this dictatorship , because it is said that it is too early to share the skin of an unkilled bear. svoboda was in touch with us, but now anzhelika is for a season and another trust