greetings well, today we started with the fact that the kremenets district court fined as much as eight and a half thousand to the rector of the pochaiv theological seed seminary, viktor fedorovych smakuuus, for inciting inter-religious enmity, part one of article 161. well, he gave so little, obviously, only because he agreed to a deal with the investigation, what do you think ? well, they were talking about the fact that 13 clergymen of the uoc-mp, according to the version of some mass media, were deprived of ukrainian citizenship by the president on the eve of the new year, because they had citizenship of the russian federation , the aggressor country, how will this story of mr. andrii end, and in what time frame , as oleksandr antoniuk said, will the cleansing of our e, our spiritual, our life from the russian dergs? well, that's what he called this church in ukraine, the so-called, please. yes, i heard a little.

end of your conversation with oleksandr a-a i think the cleansing is probably a bit aggressive , the term i think is probably some kind of squeezing out of the russian church, because as you rightly pointed out, we have a problem with the parishioners, you discussed it, we all know it, that's enough a large number of people, but in fact, as of now at the beginning of january, i think that in general we are moving very well, all these stories, because from the very beginning of the great war, and before that, of course, for decades. it was clear that the russian orthodox church is not a church in the sense of a religious institution, but a combat unit of the russian fsb, which inherited all the traditions of the earlier times when they cooperated with the soviet authorities, but i, for example, was always against some radical decisions, you remember. they often sounded during last year, since the summer, when they were called to

throw them out of their laurels, adopt a law and so on , here are straightforward extreme measures, they are unlikely to be effective. systemically coordinated work is needed at all levels, as, of course, at the level of the verkhovna rada. indeed, i agree with what is needed. legislative regulation of the activities of certain religious institutions that have a management center in the aggressor state, but it is equally important to work with local elites and local leaders well, it was rightly said that religious communities places are focused on local leaders on local people who have authority, that is why the work of the orthodox church of ukraine and local self-government bodies with the people is of great importance here, because the church is people first of all, and i am very happy that in the last probably 3-4 months the security service of ukraine became very active. we saw a huge

number of activities that were carried out, and at the moment, of course, such a watershed is a successful operation. you can probably call it the deoccupation of the verkhnaya lavra, which came completely calmly without any excesses, er, all these moscow popes actually just watched this and there were indeed certain fears that there would be some provocations or something else, but we see that mercedes simply surrendered their position, because they are actually fighters only when they feel the hands of the kremlin behind them. and when the kremlin cannot protect them, they just backfire and that’s it. that’s why i think we are moving in the right direction, we are moving in accordance with the right tactics and strategy. i think it all ends with one logical end and can be called the triumph of the ideological justice by the triumph of religious justice and that we will get rid of any

presence of the russian orthodox church in ukraine, so there will be a certain transitional period, it may take from one and a half to two years, but it will be much faster than we could have imagined back there a year and a half and two years ago, mr. oleksiy you are a question of the majority from odesa and odesa is one of the outposts. i would say to the moscow patriarchate in ukraine whether we are underestimating the mobilization resources of this community, religious or otherwise there in the drg. as oleksandr says about the retaliatory strike. that is, the russian church in ukraine has not yet completely surrendered and it can in a certain way cause trouble here in the literal sense of the word. please, congratulations to everyone. it seems to me that on the contrary, we have exaggerated their capabilities for years. and in general, we need it was a tougher position to take immediately after february 24, we were waiting for something for many months. although

it was obvious from the first days that this is just the fsb, such a cell and there will be an rg, you can call it that, which simply works against ukraine, and i am sorry that for months, they had the opportunity to do this until recently. but it is good that this situation is finally changing. i think that it is necessary. now we have such a moment and such a time and martial law, it creates a lot of challenges for us, well, this is our tragedy in general, this is what is happening now but it also creates opportunities precisely opportunities for cleansing and the cleansing of the moscow church from the moscow fifth column in the verkhovna rada and other things. well, we just have to do it right now and right now this moment cannot be wasted and you can't hang around here for a single day. and now that we have finally taken everything for the moscow church, we also need to take charge of local councils in the verkhovna rada as soon as possible and put

everything in its place. these are enemies, this is the fifth column of any mass they no longer have support in ukrainian society after february 24, this is a fact. and we were convinced of this once again when society went to show me where society went to defend moscow priests, where did it go to defend? martial law and not because it is limited by law. but the fact is that there is really no one to go out and because people and those parts that really believed in them that they really mean the church or that they mean there is a measure or something else they now understand everything and that's why there's no need to play because i'm absolutely responsible for the decision to cleanse ukraine once and for all from all these representatives, everything, everything, the fifth column, she is political there in the verkhovna rada, it's called this pzj, they climb into

religious life, calling themselves orthodox the church, but all this is just the fifth column, but actually in relation to the ukrainian orthodox church, will it be possible to purge those parishioners of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, who are now representatives of some part of ukrainian society in the parliament, because they vote when necessary, like this for example, the servants of the people must be the servants of the people in the office of the president, and this is a huge shame, and we have been asking this question since august. there is a draft resolution in the verkhovna rada, given by the first author, which provides for the removal of deputy idiots. of all people's deputies from the psg, absolutely on constitutional grounds, some of them left before february 24, and in a year they will not be in ukraine at all, this is called changing the place of permanent residence. and this, well, it is also called treason, but as a legal condition, it is a

change of permanent place of residence, it is a direct reason for the deprivation of mandates part of them wrote statements about leaving the faction of the opzzh, and they were elected on its party list. this is a direct constitutional reason for their expulsion. unfortunately, political expediency is somehow at play here, and they are really keeping them they vote for all this infamous construction law of 56-55, he got 228 votes, of which about 30 are the votes of the former pzj and now we understand that it is necessary to have this reserve of votes, you know such political hostages in the verkhovna rada who are ready to vote for everything simply the issue of national security prevails because it is a nationally huge challenge for every person in ukraine that the fifth column continues in the verkhovna rada of ukraine and i want to remind you that one of the reasons why russia er pearl on kyiv they thought that they would get people's deputies they say look at this, i have someone for you, these are the

people's deputies of ukraine, they are elected. they are now in charge of ukraine, and how long will we keep it? this is an opportunity for russia to come back to attack and use these people again, but not only the parliament. let's talk. about local councils, well, we often raise this issue, they are sitting there, well, the same deputies from the opsz, from the oblok, we talked about. well, i can mention about your odesa oblast council, one shkariv deputy chairman of the odesa oblast council, oh pzsh, there is no way they can replace him zaporizhia oblast the council is sitting there, deputy yevhen balytskyi is still a deputy of the zaporizhia regional council, and the zaporizhia regional council has never met because the deputy head of the city council is the right hand of balytskyi, also a representative of the party of his opposition blocs, who is there, well, he does not initiate this question, of course, because it is also the patron he comes to moscow, there he shakes hands with

putin and introduces himself as a deputy of the zaporizhia regional council, and there is also a party, the chevy party, that i am in the zaporizhia city council, here odesa is sitting, people with mandates, let's go to dilute our discussion a little mr. andrii, what do you think is necessary in general or will they reach the end of their term of office how many of us there are 5 years until the 25th year they are still sitting in the regional councils of the provincial and regional councils, please take a walk, my position is was absolutely clear, and i express it categorically. since march, in march, i addressed our colleagues of the central election commission and asked them to look for legal options. imagine the legal construction of a party that is prohibited by law. well, its representatives cannot represent the interests of the people of

ukraine if they went to the elections. it is from such a lady . who promoted the people of the aggressor state in ukraine to be here at all. according to the idea of ​​even a discussion about the possibility of these people continuing to represent the interests of the people of ukraine at any level , there is no difference for me. by the way, it is the verkhovna rada of ukraine or some local council because these are all bodies of representative power, these are all people who represent the people of ukraine. all this must be stopped immediately. i understand all these sentiments in the president's office. we have just discussed this with you, but i think the key thing here is that these adequate politicians and adequate deputies should exert maximum pressure on the office of the president of ukraine to the office, and volodymyr zelenskyi re-seated himself must realize that he needs it, that it is needed in the future of ukraine, because unfortunately, in our recent history, we actually already had two similar

situation, so there was no war, but we had a chance for illustration after the orange maidan, we had a huge chance for lustration, which we allegedly launched after the revolution of dignity, but unfortunately, none of those initiatives gave concrete results, because in the elections from 2019 , as we all we know perfectly well that the opz entered the verkhovna rada of ukraine in a friendly manner in the local elections of the 20th year, they got factions in different regions of ukraine, you have just described one of them very aptly, so i agree with my colleague here, it should all be stopped, but the will is in this decision, unfortunately now, in the current political structure of ukraine, it is in the office of the president of ukraine and probably personally in the hands of volodymyr zelenskyi, so i urge him to learn from the mistakes of the past. he was very fond of criticizing the previous political cycles in ukraine, so then they really did not work. now we must put an end to this once and for all

these comrades should at least bear political responsibility for everything they have done in recent years in ukraine. let the law enforcement agencies deal with them together or separately, because i think there is a lot who of them is involved in certain offenses or crimes. but this is a slightly different story, it is critically important for us to remove them from the political arena. i think it is realistic, it is possible, the office must make a decision, thank you. but tell me, will the president's office find the strength to make it someday is this decision possible? volodymyr zelenskyi has strength, but his environment in the office does not exist or convinces him otherwise. you know, on the one hand, the office gives the right theses, the right standards, on the other hand, i look and evaluate the situation not only from the position it's great, and their cooperation there seems to be

a struggle, but in their team , oleksiy danilov impresses me the most. in the 19th year, i was still somewhat surprised. well, such a team can already have such deep people, and on the other hand, when i look at the situation, yes, let's do it, even from the moment of the appearance of such a structure of cinema cats, when you understand that on the technical base the former there from which newsman, well, that is, you understand that everything is going smoothly, some kind of shady cooperation, but in certain such things, this is a production studio that indirectly belongs to the wife of kyril tymoshenko, well, the media write that, on the order of the state budget , the board of the freedom channel makes a certain product for the state channel for our and you the cost is absolutely true, according to today, in fact, the producer in the telethon and when all these things happen

because when we say, look, they have the responsibility to carry the faction behind, or rather, the former deputy in psg but together with those should be people like evgeny shevchenko. well, let's talk about it, a collaborator, a potential person, a majoritarian of the wretched zaporizhzhia, of course. look, the question is not that he will go to belarus , meeting with lukashenka, with a pseudo-president who does not recognize the state of ukraine. it was even before the large-scale war that he was charged with treason because, as a people's deputy, he went against state policy, not government policy, but state policy. well, this already clearly indicates that this person is a traitor, he is today is a people's deputy. well, kovalova has already cleaned it up. and i understand that. but then again , these are the servants of the people. that is, this issue of illustration is much deeper. what am i leading lesya to, as i recall, on february 24, so i came to the verkhovna rada just in the morning, i replaced

vinnislavsky on the rada channel that is, i was the second speaker, then at this time i remember how individual assistants behaved during the fire and in general in psg and several other people in the apparatus when you understand and think that those people are sitting and already waiting for the russian peace to come here in an hour or so too what was he talking about? oleksiy and andrii and because there really was a scenario that and i assume that medvedchuk should have become the head of the verkhovna rada of ukraine at that moment well, if zelenskyi or he would have been removed, well, performing his duties, he would be reinstated due to yanukovych's court decision, that is, the scenario was deep they had plans within a week to overthrow the government and essentially take over ukraine , so today, if we are talking about the national security service, i understood how to act. to begin with, it is necessary to adopt a resolution and remove their possibility, and to attend the meeting is through the regular committee, there you can find ways to violate the regulations, that is, you know, deputies are not allowed. this is the only statutory way

with these deputies today, simply to not allow them to work in the verkhovna rada, and already to deprive them of their mandates. in my opinion, this should be a slightly different scenario for each of them proceedings should be opened individually and, accordingly, the investigative actions are reminiscent of nadiya savchenko, why am i an opponent today, conditionally, that the people's deputies should pass some resolution, which may then be in the future will appeal not only in the constitutional court but in the international court of human affairs, because if conditionally they have such a trial, we can give a second breath to someone like yuri boyko or a meal with them, yes, in order to use it in political actions there by oleksiy a turning me back to the local councils, you didn’t tell me about it. i have an answer to the question: why is it so and why do all the sharia of the baltic oblast oblast remain in local councils, because on the example of the zaporizhzhia regional council, i don’t know how it is in odesa never gathered alone there, they

gathered online and voted for all 11 months of the war, and in this way it gives the zaporizhia regional administration the opportunity to distribute money and control flows in a completely autonomous mode. without control, without any, and i suspect that this is the case in odessa as well wherever the authorities are simply interested in these military administrations functioning without any control of the regional councils, they steal there, they do not steal, there is no such control and in this way. changes, if you change people there, it will appear immediately, the councils will meet, they will monitor and it will be necessary to report to the local self-government bodies. and what are the military administrations doing, am i right or not ? it is similar to the verkhovna rada, where it is necessary for any decision to be voted on by the authorities, that is, they have

also turned into such people, they are ready to vote for everything that the ruling party tells them to do, and for this they are held, first of all, in to the local council and even in the positions of the question, that's why you say the dbalitskyi deputy, well, this is a legal issue, yes, it's a little more complicated, the same issue is not good enough. to the verkhovna rada and we have to do it, i am sure of this, but once again it must be resolved at our level, but the issue in odesa or with joy by the deputy head of the regional council vadym shkarovsky, who called the teroboron a gang, once again called teroboronu by a gang and this person continues to be the deputy chairman of the regional council, which is absolutely decided inside the regional council, as they say , one vote was held and he at least stopped being the deputy chairman, i will kill the population with a meeting, but in the

zaporizhia council there is the same shkarovsky her my name is ludmila, i love her, she is the right hand of balytskyi, and she is also the first deputy, well , it’s just there, and here the first deputy head of the regional council, she could also be replaced with one vote, but they don’t do that for some reason it is not done in odesa, i can’t say why it is not happening in the zaporizhzhia region, it is not happening in the regional council, it is not happening because these games are being played, and these votes are needed, and this, that is, this is huge and huge, it is not just a mistake, but in this case, i i believe that this is a crime against the national security of ukraine if we do not have internal political events before the discussion . tv channel tv channel rada mentioned kyril

tymoshenko er there is such a marathon the only news i don't watch it i don't have time but nevertheless there are people who do it for us media trainer er media critic otar dovzhenko saw such a photo if they remove the subtitles it will simply be visible there title from the rada tv channel here you see the face of the year tymoshenko eh and it turned out to be a huge final interview interview with you kyryla tymoshenko eh the former host of medvedchuk channel nazar long is writing about it again otar dovzhenko well and besides that all we saw was what the journalists traced there, what happens to kyrylo tymoshenko, the camera crew of the tv channel is following him there, and the session week begins, we won't see his work, er, the work of our parliament, but we will see, for example , kyrylo tymoshenko again somewhere, somewhere he

will go, and a film crew financed by taxpayers' money will travel with him, is it possible somehow ? i didn't see that he was there, there wasn't a pigtail, uh, why is he doing this? why is the council of the tv station doing this ? yes, not for a long time, yes, and then there was a single moment, when he came from the medvedchuk channel, when he came, medvedchuk was vlada, so a large number of people escaped, someone switched to other channels, there, on the fifth, on the direct channel, including i know and on express to nazar long made a worldview decision at this time to leave espresso for the zik channel. i remember

her business, which we already belonged to, which already happened at this very moment. this is the second moment, well, obviously he sees himself as a political player, this is, well, by the way, this is not the worst episode, and you know it is worse when they show his meeting in the style of the russian right, you know. how does he start the local er local government a place or in the style of the former ryboka organizations, yes, they also give stories there, yes, for example, is he there somewhere in tiktok, where there are videos of how he loads there, in the same tents of indomitability, and the like, well, frankly, i’ll say it’s political such a peculiar pr well, not peculiar, but 100%. for money, the payers, you know what the problem is. when we were at the beginning of february 24th, there was such an agreement between the office and in general all the players in the parliament that there is no political

competition. the first ones who started to violate the arrangements are the representatives of the president's office for the first three weeks, i remember the month of march. everything was going just fine at the end of march, the beginning of april, everything went off the rails, there was once again utistu weaving at the same marathon, that is, the espresso channel on the same direct fifth began to be turned off well, yes, you and i remember that, and the positive bloggers have resumed their activities, but unfortunately, this is a negative trend on the channel, please watch a little, if in the topic, the rada channel itself is today's gasket well, let's be honest, the manufacturer is kinokit, which has the same logo of the rada channel on the microphone, this one is running, well, that is, the rada channel has only one thing to do with this relationship: that it is a licensee and that, roughly speaking, its logo is used uh, in that entire broadcast network, and he is in a big way a financial lining through him, funds

come in, and then he is forced to settle with uh, the contractor, and in order to find ways and responsibility later, it is not only up to the management of the channel, it will be necessary to take an artificial thing that today is headed by the apparatus of the verkhovna rada, well, he is under pressure because he pressed his time on the management of the rada channel. well, let me tell you in such a way that to sign this shameful agreement, artificial intimidation as employees, for example, is there conditionally for other employees of the apparatus of the verkhovna rada the council, that is, you know such a vile approach, and if you don’t do it, then you will be sent to the front or something else, well , they are so insidious, moreover, he himself will sign the intrigues that take place in the verkhovna rada, to the great regret of them they allow the very level of parliamentarism, so i understand very well that today there is an approved law on medi and there is this compromise where the rada channel will be part of the telethon and restore its parliamentary format already after the end of the war - this is true, but it seems to me that

the people's deputies in the faction should still monitor this and not just look locally exclusively at the rada channel, but look at the system in which the president's office carries out this management. i named andria and oleksia. it just shows the channel of the council of parliament sessions, at least in the recording. i don't know how journalists are. i ca n't understand what is happening there at the highest legislative body of the country. instead, there is an official of the office who does pr, why do they if we don't have elections in the near future, there probably won't be any until there is a war mr. oleksiy , please, thank you. i just wanted to add a few words of my own experience to this. well, first of all, we made a decision. i hope that the demonstration in the verkhovna rada record should resume in laws about the media, the relevant item was adopted, we will see how it will be implemented and this is important because the people, because the people should see how the verkhovna rada works. i understand that this is not the most popular show in the world, but the opportunity to

see how the issue and the fate of the state is resolved is very important, and by the way here we were talking about psg. i think one of the reasons why you point out that people do not see how this psg is sitting there if frich, who continues to be the head of the committee on the state of freedom of speech, speaks from the podium and tells how he defended kyiv, well, they do not want to show this shame people, and that is one of the reasons why the rada is not being shown. i hope that we are the ones who decided it. however, i would like to say a few words. i have a simple experience. you said propan nazar, and i don’t know him. to be honest, there is still such an interesting rada on the tv channel. people volodymyr petrov and there are also such positive bloggers serhiy ivanov means this is a couple of them all petro ivanov er this is ivanov recently you told why it means petro well done and the fact is that in 2012 volodymyr petrov helped to join the verkhovna rada of ukraine ihor markov is still such a person, the party, the family, maybe someone else remembers him, we remember him well. maradona from odesa for a woman in 2007

was a person near the odesa administration only for the fact that a person was standing with a ukrainian flag who created russian television in odesa. who then fled to russia, and then he was in the baboz of the russian occupation forces near kiev, and he was one. who was supposed to rule us now, how are you walking like a russian? and here is this markov in 2012. i fought against him in odesa on elections and this marko went to the verkhovna rada, and volodymyr petrov, who works for him today, works on the rada tv channel, is one of the positive bloggers who tells, which means who is right and who is wrong, and serhiy ivanov means that it came out recently and they ask him the question, how can this be so petrov well, it's a shame and so on, and he says yes, no , petrov, no, it's not a shame, he's not mark, he wasn't late, he was, and he means the driver was just against honcharenko, and that means he's a good guy once against

honcharenko . i'm just pasha i will add two words. and volodymyr petrov, when the euromaidan was just beginning, wrote on facebook that you can even find it everywhere that i am your maidan in the mouth, so to speak, i had sexual intercourse with him, a freak in a natural way or in nature , you don't know and this well, this is a man now i will absolutely agree with you andrii saichuk i am asking osadchuk osadchuk i apologize osadchuk is a man who is barely a presenter espresso p andrii well colleagues summing up i have already said this many times and i am absolutely not afraid to repeat it history with freedom of speech history with the marathon, the story with the tv channel is glad, it is terrible. unfortunately, the boys and girls and the president do not understand this at all. i understand why they do not understand, because we are all hostages of our experience, we are nothing. each of us does not know how to do more or less normally except to do the last 10-15 years with our own hands as

we were taught for the last 10-15 years this is what we all know how to do accordingly the same kirill well he works the way he was taught the way he imagines this world accordingly he acts according to those algorithms according to that logic what he saw which one he wants to be successful, maybe in this way he is trying to build some kind of future political career for himself, but on the one hand, it looks quite funny when they put him as the face of the year with the help of the parliamentary channel, which does not cover the work of the parliament during the war, but on the other hand, it is a huge danger for ukraine as a state because freedom of speech is an integral component of democratic regimes of a democratic state as such and now we are in a state where we do not have freedom of assembly because we have war and it is limited in us there are no elections because we have a war, they are limited , but in fact we also have limited freedom of speech