we tried to hide in the corridor, you know the rules of two walls, then i realized that it could fly in at any moment and i started to prepare the basement and, plus, the chairman of the auto garage cooperative, i started to bring mattresses and chairs from the cooperative, that is, prepare the shelter, and the most terrible thing is the war in the city under the conditions, i say, first of all, the civilian will suffer. that's how it turned out, our azov people were standing, as i understand it, there were correctional officers at the houses, and now you can see that someone was surrendering positions because exactly where they were not standing, they just piled up there because i knew departures, arrivals, i heard everything, how mines are flying, behaved more or less calmly and taught people the most terrible thing was that i was afraid - it was a burning house, our area was shelled, so, well , there was nothing left of it, that is, everything burned with fire, we are ours the house was saved from the fire. we lost three apartments, but we saved everything around. everything was destroyed in our house, in our entrance, there was a basement in the basement, that is, understand, the house was still small. i never

thought that a large number of people could fit in this room. they found our guys, i don't know, i didn't take a receiver, i caught them, they ate, they ate these ukrainian teleconferences on the radio, there was no radio connection at all , and we had a special man sitting there who listened to the radio all day and in the evening he gave us full information, that is, people came. i understood us, he partly came up with some news to support and so on, and we made a common kitchen, brought a lot of food. there is a big entertainment center near us, well, people are pulling refrigerators, tvs, they just ransacked a sex shop, that is, they pulled all these things. i couldn't understand why i came, as now i remember the patrol police, and they came to this square and realized that there was simply nothing anymore. they will do it, they turned around and left. it was scary to see when people lose their human form. and you know, the left-handed witch, i'm not

that's all they were talking about. i harassed them. i asked them to explain something. father and i on this square very often this matter came to the point where are you, here and there, hair and so on, they were afraid to go out and throw it, you know, it’s like how would it be possible to say a bad word to me well, friend, i really am father the whole black jacket was torn, the people showed up very quickly, two families of rogues turned out to be gone after 2 days. in two general offices, two warehouses, they simply robbed at night, hid themselves in the morning. since the age of 14, i have had two army first- aid kits at the entrance, a good nato one, a barkless stretcher, a large first-aid kit, a lot of things, the war is going on, a collector, i have a lot of uniforms at home, a lot of different things are hanging around, and they saw this, i don’t know what they presented about me there, but the floor they simply

filled up the apartments, then the neighbors went there again. the neighbors with whom we were sitting in the basement are inadequate people. they expressed their position in this way. okropov alcohol is still such an advertisement. everything was burnt. and the tanks had already entered, they were standing as i remember the blood transfusion station. we have a blood transfusion station near me. that ’s when the shelling was already there. we went to the stupid territory when our area already had these mobilized people standing at the entrances. the wife begged very hard, we got together and left. and managed to pull the car out of the cooperative, she stayed whole , we were in this car, the woman was driving, i gave camouflage warm pants, there was already a russian dear, a bunch of roadblocks, as i remember now, the car is stopped and the pants are on камуфляжные and you put it there, i thought they would pull it out of the car and take it somewhere for just these pants, all friends, the flag of the city of mariupol , mariupol - it was, is and always will be ukraine

, no matter what anyone says. well, let's talk about why turkey does not let sweden in nato, the swedish authorities stated that they cannot fulfill all the demands that turkey puts forward to it on the way to nato membership. i would like to remind you that sweden and finland decided to abandon the long traditional tralitet in may of last year and, against the background of russia's war against ukraine, submitted an application for membership in nato two scandinavian countries can become members of nato only after all 30 member states of the alliance ratify the accession protocol, at the moment 28 countries have done so . a series of demands at the nato summit in madrid at the end of june, the three countries signed a joint memorandum in which the scandinavian duo undertook to lift the embargo on arms supplies to turkey and curb the activities of kursk activists

on its territory, despite the fact that currently ankara's claims concern sweden exclusively , finland declared that it will not join nato without sweden and that sweden's membership in the alliance is very important for finland's military security, the prime minister of sweden said at a free forum in the swedish salon that his country has already fulfilled all the turkish demands that only it could so turkey simultaneously confirms that we have done what we promised to do and at the same time they insist on things that we can not or do not want to do so the decision now it's up to turkey. well, what decision will turkey make? well, why is turkey against sweden in nato? how can this situation be resolved with us live? director of the center for middle eastern studies ihor semevolos. good evening by phone due to problems with the video connection. good evening, so the swedish prime minister says that his country has already fulfilled all the turkish demands and it

either cannot or does not want to fulfill the rest, in particular it does not want to hand over the kursks to turkey activists who have asylum in sweden and here it is worth saying that even a public opinion poll among swedes showed that they are also against extradition of people to turkey, so how then can this issue be resolved in any way or or there will be such a full-scale pressure on erdogan and this this pressure will force nagano to agree to the accession of these two countries to nato and to ratify it, or erdogan will continue to act in the same way and where to agree, and most likely, taking into account the upcoming elections and by rotogan's rhetoric, the mood in ankara can be predicted with a high degree of probability that ankara will not agree to such

an entry format, and since mr. erdoğan, drunkenly, considers such behavior to be a failure to fulfill the agreement, the reasons why this happened are clear, all experts, most experts warned they warned erdoğan about this, that in europe there are, well, at least independent courts that will be the final instance in considering these cases, and what's more, corduroy jackets that will end up on the territory of turkey do not guarantee the observance of rights people of turkish companies, but in principle it is not good . it is not enough. well, it is good. regarding the reprimand from rajeev and her partners, there were also publications indicating that the demands on sweden and finland may be part of his

political calculations before the presidential elections, which we just mentioned, which in turkey should take place in june. explain what you said. it must be so. explain. and what is the calculation of the cardigan here? what benefits does he want to receive for this at the expense of sweden and finland for before his own audience? the key question for erdogan is what he is a great leader that he is able to dictate the conditions and that is why the entire turkish press is now completely clogged, that is, the turkish media is trying to use every opportunity to increase everton against the background of very bad economic results of high inflation and the decline of the economy. well, there is such a way well, let's say the promotion of the leader through the demonstration of the greatness and arrogance of a certain

turkish in relation to these countries, er, here it is also important to take into account this important nuance that in this way, as it were, the turks protect their national interests and this is very favorably perceived by a large part, that is, uhu well, if we continue this opinion that you just voiced, then i also had to read the western press, too, that for erdogan, including , it is beneficial for russia to be bogged down in the war in ukraine for as long as possible, and that this is also very positive can hmm can have an impact on a positive influence within the framework of his presidential campaign, so do you then agree with such a statement well , here maybe i would be wrong because in fact as a program it is necessary for his success and negotiations, that is, again, he needs a loud foreign policy success

ah and this loud foreign policy success - it is possible direct negotiations and a ceasefire or something similar between ukraine and russia. the ministry of law to the right of turkey well, all the negotiations that we are now seeing that are taking place between ankara and moscow, ankara and kyiv, they revolve in one way or another around a possible ceasefire and the beginning of a reversal, that's all. allow me one more thing. a question that directly concerns regiyan. and in general, what does sociology say now? what are his chances of winning the presidential election ? do you know that sociology says that the overall chances are less than those of his rivals, but the problem is that the rivals do not yet have one candidate, but the candidate and this makes it difficult

for there is a chance that you will win it if, let's say, we reject the percentages that fluctuate in one direction or the other, so now the situation is 50 and 50, that is, erdogan has a chance to win the election. and i honestly hope so, but in this situation, of course, he needs some kind of success, a really big success that will allow him to demonstrate his er, something in his greatness, in the eyes of the turkish people, to the point that this six months will be very difficult and, in principle, it is possible to predict the issue of the two countries joining nato can be decided only after the elections, after whether erdoğan wins or loses in sweden just in time for

the beginning of erdoğan's presidential campaign. well, do you understand the position of finland, which, on the one hand, erdoğan cannot come to an agreement with the swedes to open the way for them to nato and finland says that it will not go to teo without the swedes, uh, did you understand this position of finland? well, from the very beginning, it was made public in exactly this way, and this is exactly how the easterners see their way to nato together only with sweden, and that is why it clearly clearly understood because, well, at least these two countries are neighbors and uh, if they closed uh, the baltic sea from the north, yes, that is, for them, it is important to go exactly from the park, thank you very much, thank you very much, ihor samovolov - director of the center for middle eastern studies, we talked about the situation that has developed around sweden and finland, turkish president erdoğan does not yet allow sweden to join nato

well, one topic that we want to discuss today volodymyr zelenskyi is the effect of the nsdc decision on personal sanctions against 109 so-called stars of the russian film and television scene and even of football, for example, the rapper basta, who gave concerts in the occupied crimea, philip kirkorov, who was once a colleague of zelensky 's post-filming site, was sanctioned , my colleague will tell you more about the sanctions, the reaction to them fuck roksolana, and then we will discuss the singer philip kirkorov among these 119 people who were sanctioned by such a decision of the president of ukraine. he has already reacted to the publication on instagram where he compared zelenskyi to goebbels . sends from across the ocean, he leads both himself and the country entrusted to him to the ashes, not

very sorry for him and his relatives, not people from ukraine . unfortunately, fanatical people do not give propaganda and spring agendas if they want people hear their relatives' friends and other alternative opinions and news, and so far i was lucky, only my songs and my bunny were banned, even after the large-scale invasion, kirkorov regularly gave concerts in the occupied crimea, spoke in front of the wounded soldiers of the russian federation and called them heroes. positions, today they are undergoing rehabilitation here as early as 2021, the security service banned him from entering ukraine for three years, but later the ban was canceled by the innovative gun rappers basta and dzhigan, also under sanctions, the latter was born in odesa, but

he did not comment on the war started by russia and the shelling of his native city. and in october , he published a story on instagram that made fun of russians who evaded mobilization. dad was here during the third world war in georgia on an electric scooter. when they grow up, they will become themselves. how my dad but the rapper basta gave concerts in the occupied crimea back in 2017, because of this the sbu banned him from visiting ukraine, and when the ban expired, the rapper continued to visit odesa, ukraine, and kyiv with concerts as in 2021, for example, the son of fedor dobronravov , viktor, was also sanctioned. both actors played in the tv series matchmakers , which was filmed by the company. in the 95th quarter of this year, the ministry of defense of russia awarded viktor dobronravov with its medal. he himself supported the occupation of crimea and the war against ukraine, which in 2017 the sbu banned dobrovov sr.'s father from entering ukraine due to his support for russian aggression and visiting the occupied crimea, however, in 2019,

the kyiv district administrative court overturned the decision of the security service after a full-scale invasion, fedor repeatedly met with the russian military and supported them , however, he was not included in this sanctions list. he was not included in the special operation. words of support naturally did not go without a car, they were received by all those who wished, also under the sanctions of the singer iryna allegrova, larisa dolina and dima bilan, tv presenter, dana borisova , propagandist, margarita semenyan, dmytro kiselyov, director, nikita mikhalkov, artist, yevgeny petrosyan, singers, volodymyr presnyakov, stas piekha, love of uspenska, mykhailo shufutynskyi , and other 119 russian death propagandists in the big list of sanctions, the reason for direct or

indirect calls to kill, capture , steal in ukraine and also in three citizens of ukraine, tv presenter zhanna badoeva, football player anatoliy tymoshchuk, and singer lolita milyavska, who also has russian and israeli citizenship, were placed on the sanctions list. the sanctions include the blocking of assets, the termination of cultural exchanges, the ban on entering the territory of ukraine and the deprivation of state awards roksolana bychay mykyta isaiko radio svoboda well, now we will discuss the consequences of all these sanctions for representatives of the russian so -called culture, i remind you that the sanctions also include blocking of assets, the question is how many of these assets did the stars of the russian scene have on the territory of ukraine, especially if we talk about two - after 2014 , when already then for them for some of them of course, not everyone has difficulty coming to

ukraine and concerts in ukraine and all their activities in ukraine. yevhen nyshchuk, people's artist of ukraine, minister of culture of ukraine, 14th year, 2016-2019, joins our broadcast. good evening. how do you like the sanctions list? is it full of 119 people? i think that it is incomplete, we started it back in the 14th year, when the war actually began in the east of ukraine, the annexation of the crimea, and then it was close to me. if i am not mistaken, it was about 16, then it increased every year, hmm, there were certain collisions, you in your er, in your mention it um, they demonstrated when the persons were caught, then later they were brought back again by the court or in some other way and given the opportunity

. with some performances and not only now in the near future, we are now showing their advertising posters on the screen. this is how they used to invite the audience to their concerts . as far as i understand, this is already the majority of this advertising . these concerts took place already after 2014, see here about i have a question about some of the people on the sanctions list. i can't figure it out. why exactly now, let's take, for example, this rapper basta. he was in the crimea after the 14th year and gave concerts, for which in the 17th year he was even banned from entering ukraine for three years of the then government by the way, the question why is this ban only for three years in 2021, its term

expires in the 20th. now well now then it is clear that there is a war here and these discussions are already here, well, they are completely inappropriate, yes, but really , this was such a situation when it was given, well, they say, an educational moment for three years. if you understood something , and realized that you... you behave differently and you don't violate the law, you don't cross the annexed crimea and so on and so on that they say you'll have a chance but as we understand and see now, especially after the already large-scale invasion, most of them are now actively supporting the

kremlin's own government activities putin, and this only confirms the fact that the grave will fix the slang of the hunchback , that's why we have to draw conclusions about those individual artists who gathered the courage to speak out and who left russia because they understood that it posed a danger to them for their statement, well, it's in in principle gives us respect well, to some extent yes, they always often do it not so openly unequivocally yes, but all the same, it is important for us when pugacheva there or galkin behaved like that there, well, at one time makarevich also behaved like that, but

these are isolated cases and others understand these this the list, you are talking about their number. well, it seems to me that it is already here, well, it practically does not make sense, because the entire russian showbiz, the russian market, and in the end all their cultural great russian, this idea that they pushed through their cultural figures into ukraine, it should be under it is prohibited by the sanction, you know. perhaps i can omit to assume that some part of our audience is now watching and saying well, what is this? irina allegrova just sang songs about love, and you are talking about some cultural front and that they are saying русский мир was spread in ukraine, but it is possible to explain to people who may not fully understand. why do we spend so much time talking about shufutinsky for lovely ladies? well, it seemed. what is it ? believe me, there are still a lot

of people in ukraine who ask these questions. i believe. i believe. and you know it now . perhaps to some extent these people hide their affection a little because people have a heightened sense of pain and justice because millions of our people are dying now at the hands of the russian occupiers, women, pregnant children and the elderly are dying people and peaceful residents, however, these so -called supporters or fans still exist, but we must understand that behind all the words about love, there is such a thing. well, history says that we are one space, we all sing about love we are all people, and so on, and so on, but at

the same time, this russian idea of ​​a great imperial power that gave the mandate to putin to attack ukraine was introduced. and this is the collective responsibility of the entire russian society, society and the establishment , including the cultural one. i would also like you to ask how you all see the role of president volodymyr zelensky in the historical situation. how do you see his transformation? we all remember that not so many years ago, when he was an actor, he reacted very violently to the ban on matchmakers, for example. and now we see that actors who they play in swat, too. they were sanctioned, yes. i am proud of the fact that the president is not the most responsible moment. he really stood up clearly on the side of the

protection of the ukrainian state and the fulfillment of his direct constitutional duties. directly of the constitutional duty uh, this is recognized by the world, and this now unites us inside ukraine against the russian occupier , it is very important that the president is not playing any uh double standards, there is white, there is black, now there can be no discussion , now there can't be to be a conversation about uh, some humanity there, about the fact that culture is outside of politics . no, there is no one now, or who is on the side of good humanity , uh, and the ukrainian state, or those who do not associate themselves with this people, with this state, and uh, they have no place here sanctions are also provided by those

introduced by ukraine blocking of assets, and in general, what do we know about the assets of russian show business in ukraine , are there many of them? there are assets, i think so, and a lot has not yet been discovered, we all understand this , that is, there is a lot of work right now, and it must be done right now, of course because she makes it possible, gives this unconditional mandate that we do not talk about certain things later , because we carried out, for example, decommunization, and again at that time, it was difficult to imagine what it would affect those figures who seemed to be untouchable, but now these pushkins and and bulgakov, including and so on, the questions regarding them are unambiguous, just like how we understand a delicate, sensitive issue, but

it was always, well, in particular, for me and for the majority of ukrainian patriots, it was unambiguous, this is the fsbsh on the agent activities of the moscow patriarch and now the time has come, my son, to finally finish this is one of the influences, this is one of the assets, in fact very large assets, we talk on the air very often about the situation that has developed in the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, i have one more question about the sanctions regarding yes well-known cultural figures of russia and what about the fact that not only citizens of russia but also citizens of ukraine were included in the same list, tv presenter zhanna badoeva, even football player anatoliy tymoshchuk, lolita milyavska, she has several citizenships there. do you support this policy and do you have any reservations about how this could be interpreted as a violation of human rights, conditionally speaking, if these people i mentioned turn to the european court of human rights and ukraine is

recognized as violating the rights of its citizens, are there any risks here a-a no there are no risks, give me an ordinary one, maybe in some other time we would have talked about some uh, we referred to some norms and uh and normative acts and bylaws but now when really i see how my brothers die when we uh we every day we are saying goodbye to one of the best ukrainian artists, including artists . one of the great directors died recently. onysko died as a ballet soloist of the national opera. i can list others at the very beginning in irpen. where am i? where was i? against the background of the fact that a large number of ukrainian

artists ukrainian artists in the trenches give their lives for the culture for the people for the state debates about whether there is a place for povaliy ani lorak to all those whom you listed and mentioned there and many others are not there, they did not understand that this is not politics, this is the life of the people of the country, the people of the earth, on which they were born, and they cannot understand this, this is not politics, this is not an answer, this is my job, you understand. and how can i continue to be ashamed of this tymoshchuk, he really painted himself once beautifully at a football team match, he was the captain of the ukrainian national team, he sang the national anthem and so on. it is

so shameful to be sold because he works at zenith and receives money there. some events that will be forever eh, they have an honor. i play football myself and in the house of football. where was his photo? we took it down i understood your opinion, thank you very much yevhen nyshchuk, people's artist of ukraine, minister of culture of ukraine, 14-16-19 years old, thank you very much for that, svoboda life will return to the air tomorrow, and in the meantime, subscribe to the pages of radio svoboda on the internet of cinema television sports music education free