representatives of the international red cross can carry them, the spokesman of the delegation, oleksandr vlasenko, says that out of thousands of detainees, they only have access to hundreds. therefore, these letters can be passed on, and through the national information bureau, a detainee can receive a letter from a relative, even those to whom we do not have access, they can write these letters transfer through the national information bureau, we will receive them and transfer them to the national information bureau of the other side, and they will then transfer them to their relatives, this is purely for this conflict, such a scheme katya is waiting for a confirmation letter about the whereabouts of her nikita, the girl believes that this process can be speeded up and public publicity is possible, this is, well, very important

information. it just needs to sound. bring back the civilians. while we were preparing this episode for broadcast, our second story received an unexpected continuation and it is real . 57-year-old iryna vasylenko turned to us for a new year's miracle. 8 months ago. she had no contact with her cousins . you can hear your sweet and hairy irina. the women lived in the luhansk region. near the front-line village of toshkivka, the last time they contacted each other was on april 10, then the enemy mercilessly shelled the peaceful streets, we spoke very briefly - i say, well, hold on, stay strong, hide, where are you, where are you, where are you, take care, i say to myself, when i called back on the second day, on april 11 there was no connection,

iryna says she was very close with her cousins, even despite the age difference with the older person of 19 years, and with her mother-in-law, ira, 9 years, the woman admits that she wanted to imitate them, especially irina, and wanted to do so, wonderful nails, ms. iryna, as sisters, connect her life with teaching now. she teaches english at the nizhyn gymnasium and says that her sisters often called her about work issues . lyudmila oleksandrivna is also an english teacher, and iryna oleksandrivna is a teacher of foreign literature. she helped me a lot in terms of methodology,

she told me where she was what materials does she find, she called me, she asks. and how do you do one thing? and how do you do this? since 2014 , the village of tozhkivka, where iryna's sisters lived, actually became a pro-front woman. i talked to darvykhata, but they refused , and so it was on february 24, even though the situation there rapidly worsened, they rallied together almost constantly, they were in the basement, they came out only when things seemed to be quiet, they came out to cook something, eat, and when there was a connection to charge the phone so that somewhere with with whom to talk then they were just going out and after the tenth of april iryna no longer knew anything about the fate of her sisters tozhkovka was under occupation and the woman received disappointing news

some of the acquaintances acquaintances acquaintances arrived from luhansk region and said that this village no longer exists. that there is not a single house, the sisters did not survive. that's how they say it. what kind of people are there, where to find them? i don't know. a woman turned to our team, and a volunteer of the project to find her daughters, mar' , took up her case. yana she is looking for people who have disappeared in luhansk region. maryana says that in the search in the occupied territories, it is most difficult to find a connection with the settlement where the person disappeared, so in social networks you need to search for local groups and write to all participants of the luhansk region

how much am i going to these people just let us pay, of course. iryna has already contacted a local resident and a skinner who saw her sisters through her. she found out that her lyudmila and iryna are alive and have not gone anywhere. they live together in the younger ira's house because lyudmila's house was destroyed. due to the occupation, they lost their mobile phone connection and they couldn't get through to irina. therefore, now the woman is waiting for her to be able to contact her sisters through the same local resident. in fact, this was such an unusual situation, this is probably the fastest application that we managed to close

local residents, they left very quickly, the search for mrs. iryna is over, happy-em instead, katya continues to look for her boyfriend nikita, we ask you to carefully look at these photos . if you know anything about nikita buzinov , who was taken by russian soldiers in chernihiv oblast, let me know, let there be as many happy stories as possible with the national police and the national information bureau, we are ready to help everyone, so if you know anything about people in search, write to our email or call 102 or 16:48 new stories search see what monday at 9:30 p.m. look for and don't give up

prokopenko, we met by chance in the hub for displaced people, people who were able to leave the occupied territories were gathering there. i was waiting for an acquaintance from mariupol, yaroslav helped him find a place to stay for the night. how are you compatriots, yaroslav, how did you leave, how was it? it was march 10. we were leaving mariupol, which had already been purchased. it was only the first day when the ring around mariupol was closed. it was very difficult for me. the decision because everyone thought that it would be like in 2014 , i will shoot and stop because it is very difficult to leave my home, but this decision was made literally in 10 minutes when

my er, close goods, more er, with the police told cordova you have 20 minutes they close the circle and i put on my sneakers, took my wife, the child and went, i walked the road from mariupol to odesa, the road was very difficult, my a-a comrade shot me the route er-er we went in the direction of childbirth and near us the bridge was torn down they turned us around i led the column there were 10 cars driving with me, and among this column there was a guy who knew the way through gulyaipole and we drove through the fields . the road was very difficult. i was the first to drive out of the forest. someone fired from a sniper rifle and almost hit me in the rear bumper. the car shook, but i pressed on. and we quickly drove off at high speed. how quickly did we manage to adapt or come to our senses when i

got to odessa? i literally two days. we rented an apartment. that a few weeks ago i i went to her house, but she did not agree to leave her house under any circumstances, she said that there are about 10 people sitting with her in the basement and she will not go anywhere without these people, so i immediately started to jump out of the minibus and whose volunteer would help i have to pull out my mother and all the people who were with her and let's do it, let's shout mariupole and i showed you how it's done. you just need to follow the volunteers and shout. and in mariupole and berdyansk and melitopol, the people there need help. if we leave them there, that's it. no one won't pull it out, the corridor narrows as

quickly as i found it. here is the person who volunteered for it very quickly, constantly under circumstances. literally two days later i met volodymyr, he immediately went to mariupol, he had never been there, so that you understand, i do not advise a man without being in mariupol, they he doesn't have any relatives, strangers, or friends, he went to pull people out, that's right, the award mariupol city hospital number two thank you , i fell in love with the enlarged image, please come and do even more with mariupol, and we are for you thank you, thank you, most of them were taken for free, very accidentally. it turned out that we drove up all the series and all left. the house burned down. we stayed in the basement with a friend for two nights and all left at last.

thank you very much. thank you very much . thank you very much. the first two places are more than five thousand men, so far what was the difficulty was that volodymyr and the driver, uh, the driver, after 2 weeks, were taken prisoner to the reindeer herd, we searched for a very long time where he was, what he was, and he stayed there 60 i didn't have a few days, but there were a couple of friends in zaporizhzhia. hmm, friends of these friends called their friends, and at one of the unloadings, we met guys from yulia and oleksandr , and after a couple of weeks i had an idea, because mariupol was closed, i couldn't sit still i decided to open a headquarters for children until mariupol is not allowed. i fell in love with it immediately because i had nowhere to live, not even zaporizhzhia, and

when i saw it, i immediately realized that this was my place. we bought a generator here, we installed one just in case, and three i still had spare exits it was always in my head that if the bombing starts, i'm making a plan for myself, where did i learn the roads, how should i leave zaporizhzhia , so that i wouldn't let my team down again, it was even fun to live in a group like that, then neither i nor they there was no survey of humanitarian work, so we decided everything in discussions and conversations, we looked for options, i slipped my instagram to popularize this case, that's why we didn't attract any funds, we just this system is 40 years old, each other gave us a lot of gumpovich, not money no one gave us money, they gave us diapers, they gave us bicycles, stew, and

i only spent my money on fuel and such nuances, they are small, but not like big funds , you know, they spend millions there, but the efficiency is very high, back at the moment there are about 15,000 people in the system for eight months, i would not say that i am a leader there, we interact, my strength there is in communication with people, and i communicate a lot with people, people go with me to contacts , to meet me there, er, artem with logistics er, hmm slava was like that, do you remember e-mailers he was developing this program, so i only rallied them and emotionally inspired them, if what the headquarters is doing now, we are all multitaskers , absolutely, i, uh, it's two or three men, i travel around the cities occupied by the forces, recently there was pain in kherson, now we're going to bakhmut, the

girls are giving out among the children to everyone where we can help people, too, diapers, nappies , absolutely everything. motivates smiles, where are you when we help, we now go to the raisin on the babble bakhmut when you help people, you feel feedback feedback from people of this energy, i can't explain it, but this is probably the first thing i, uh, used the money that i earned in it was the first week of the seas. this is my friend merab. he invited me to help unload. because the big truck was the first humanitarian aid. i got to know their team.

journalists were coming from spain, so i took them to orichov and showed them how we work. with well, this is also a photo of our military friends in kramatorsk a lot, too , the military helps me not only children, everything goes to gulyaipole, people who are now waiting to leave mariupol and now go to cities that are on the front line, eh, it’s not scary, personally, i’m not afraid at all i don't know if i have such a reaction, maybe it's the brain of the brain, that's why i'm still in an extreme situation. my brain starts to think faster. how many birthdays have you had this year? they went to zhek, it was very hot there, and it was the

most difficult thing in bakhmut in bakhmut. i'm just heroes with our boyfriend, how do they hold on there? it's one thing to go for an evacuation, and to be there for days and weeks and fight for our country is real respect. do they tell you a phrase? yes, even my wife tells me that i have changed for the better or not for the worse, for the better , many of my friends did not expect such behavior from me that i will start spending my own money on such a thing, devoting all my time to this, i do not work with weapons, i do not work anymore repeat the years, a sailor, how can i do anything now? anything, but i decided to use the saved money for this work, if it were not a pity, i want to go

to sea, i want victory, i want it, and then the sea, the sea, when the light goes out everywhere, they continue to fight for their lives every day, every day, every second under during the war and hospitals became fortresses of light where they heal not only the body through fatigue and pain, they continue to protect the light of hope, their reward is our smiles and hugs, their joy is another saved person they know that not everyone has a life, that is why they keep the light inside

we are grateful to the doctors who continue to save people despite the darkness outside the window. thank you. the 2022 budget was completed thanks to the timely payment of taxes. the business survived and is working despite everything. thank you. unbreakable. this is the beginning of the war. for months, public journalists investigated the circumstances of the disappearance of volodymyr

vakulenko . we know the documentary will be recorded under the cherry tree tomorrow at 21:15 in marathon single news the marathon continues single news my name is oleksiy fadeev and our broadcast continues the interview our guest in the studio today is oleksandra matviychuk human rights defender head of the organization center for civil liberties and nobel laureate mrs. oleksandra thank you to you for coming to our studio good evening good

evening mr. oleksandr this december the world heard ukraine and the world heard two great historical speeches the first more precisely one of them is zelensky's speech before the congress of the united states and one more - this is your nobel lecture, you were the first. by the way, zelenskyi was the second in time, and i can say that the lecture was brilliant. i listened with pleasure. with inspiration. and who is the author? i wrote this lecture, as i already reported on social networks, they wrote this lecture by candlelight in my kitchen in the breaks between work meetings, when i was traveling on the train, i actually did not have such a luxury that i have a few days to concentrate, distract myself from work and write the text, but in the end the text came out in such a way that we heard and yes indeed, at least in ukraine, you were definitely heard and did they hear you in the world at all,

if you evaluate your speech, do you think that you achieved your goal and said what you wanted to say, said what i wanted to say and actually, not only me, because even according to that feedback who had words in ukraine. i understand that this touched a nerve. and actually i managed to convey everything that we as ukrainians feel, but it is necessary to evaluate it by concrete actions, because in my speech i talk about a number of things, including the problem of the international architecture of peace and security, and here it is necessary to assess whether we were heard, not by words, but by actions. well, if we talk about the prize itself, what if we put the actual nobel prize and the opportunity to give a lecture on the scales? what was more important to you that you turned to the world? you know the importance and recognition of your organization, but i will be honest. this is not the first award

this year for obvious reasons. focus on ukraine and finally began to notice the work of ukrainian human rights defenders 1.5 weeks before it was the nobel peace prize was announced, i received an alternative nobel prize, which is awarded in sweden, but all these honors, all these awards are not personal things, they are opportunities for the country, which we must use so that people stop dying, that people stop dying at the front, in the occupied territories, in the rear. this is how all these recognitions should be considered and the focal point for ukraine is all that you are talking about, the alternative peace prize so it was this year, 2022, your organization is working, well, before the recording, you told me that since 2007, but what we ukrainians know for sure is that euromaidan sos is something that has been working since the 13th year. the truth is that in the 14th year already the

beginning of the aggression. that year, your organization began to record violations of human rights and war crimes in the temporarily occupied territories of ukraine in the crimea and the donbas , right, yes, and then there was such attention to your activities, and if not, why was there no such attention, of course i i have to remember that after maidan we received the honor of defender of democracy from the osce mission, that is, our organization received international recognition even earlier, but there was no proper attention to our work, this actually hindered us and forced us to change the directions of our activities. we were the first human rights organization that sent mobile groups to the crimea, donetsk, luhansk region. we focused on such war crimes as kidnapping, torture, rape

, murder of civilians, as well as the opening of politically motivated criminal cases. and you know when you interview people who have passed because of torture and this hell, well, it’s just different , well, it’s not a metaphor, you can’t call it anything else , and a person tells you how it all happened. and at this moment, i understand that right now, at this very second, another person is being tortured and killed, and all your reports are all your speeches at international organizations, all your appeals to the un to the osce to the council of europe well, they ca n't stop it, that's exactly why our organization started doing more than just work with international organizations and we started a company like save oleg sentsov united thousands of people around the world started this company of synchronous peaceful demonstrations in more than 35 countries of the world, and these people who came

out there did not come out with demands for abstract putin , but with concrete demands for their national governments. that is, given that there was no focus on ukraine and on - and due to the horror that people in ukraine went through, we were forced to move away from traditional human rights methods of work, but this is also a good method, i heard about it and talked about it in other interviews, and you emphasize precisely the simultaneity of these actions. so when at the same time people in different cities in different countries come out simultaneously and demand as you said from your governments is this an effective method at that time ? well, we were the first who initiated it, but in fact i don't think that this idea belongs to ukraine, we really don't know much about the world and it is necessary to see how it was used in other countries, but at that moment it played a huge role, because if 7 cities come out in france and in these same cities 20 people come out in the

central square, then if it is 20 people somewhere in france, nobody knows about it no one will write it, no one will see it. but if it comes out in one day in more than 35 countries of the world , and not only in the capitals, i mentioned that in france, in germany, in other countries, people in different cities did some collective actions, then it visualizes this problem and inscribes it in the international map of the international map or the agent was given an agenda and please tell me what you just said about the fact that you feel that literally at this moment someone can be tortured you really feel it i never thought that i would be documenting war crimes i have i have a lot of empathy for people, that's exactly why i started to fight against injustice, i decided to stay and work in human rights at one time, i gave up a commercial legal

career, well, actually, i don't regret it, i'm just telling you that you should follow your calling and do what you want in life do you believe, but documenting war crimes, although if i could avoid it, i would avoid it well, it is very difficult, we document not the violation of the hague geneva conventions, we document human pain, she was very shocked by your a story about a woman about a story about a woman who tried to poke out her eye with a spoon, i'm something called a scumbag, it's terrible even when you hear something else from third parties, as they say, agree . i know that i don't have answers to this question, of course we are all people. well, in the 14th year, a number of human rights organizations began to prepare the first

comprehensive report on the problems of people who survived captivity, in the sense of what happens to them in captivity, and it was a male team we they distributed the sections very democratically. i said let's take the torture section , not because i like torture cases, but because i understood that this story is long and i wanted to somehow prepare myself for it. well, since i have to work with it, i have to go through it once already be ready, you can't prepare yourself for this, well, it's impossible, it's something not human. but we're still human beings, i don't know, there's a contradiction in nature. probably, and two months ago, in an interview, you said about 21,000 documented war crimes, yes, and in october, at least on now what is this number colleague say our joint database. i want to clarify once again that this is the database of the initiative of the tribunal for putin. it is filled by dozens of human rights

organizations, mainly from the regions. now, about 28,000 episodes of war crimes have been documented in the past two months. please tell me the evidence. -th confirmation that you collect. they are still needed somehow for well, let's say so, for courts, especially possible international foreign ones, somehow legitimize, check, what is the procedure, the man of documentation is only the first such initial, i would say the principles or the follow-up. that is, it is this mass of information on which all further investigative actions must be based. it is necessary to then build connections between the cases, try to identify the culprits, reproduce a complete picture of the event that happened. well, not before we we are going with this further information to the independent courts where the judges will make their

decisions and therefore you need to bring evidence that even if you have identified the people who committed these crimes you need to collect evidence that you have convinced the judges of this and that is all very such a lot of effort and time spent on work, and i began to ask myself more and more often since march, and for whom are we documenting all this, that is, who will take our entire database and be able to digest this entire mass of information, because it is obvious that even the best general the prosecutor's office in the world during the war cannot cope with the task of effectively investigating each of the tens of thousands of criminal proceedings, and the international criminal court will limit its investigation to a few selected cases . will give a chance for justice to all the hundreds of thousands of people who suffered