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about the fact that parents do this deliberately and simply give their children away because they want the best for the child, well, this rarely happens. that is, we are talking about the fact that they agree to allegedly give the child away because, i'm sorry, there is nothing to feed her. and it is simply impossible to bring her to the ukrainian side simply it is impossible once and for all, we also have to understand that parents are forced by telling them that we will take her on vacation for a month or two and return it to you, and if you do not give the child back, we treat it as it is, and you are a bad father or mother we are taking the child away from you forever, everything will be hers. a new family will be provided and so on. that is, we are talking about a new technology. we are not talking about what the parents are doing. everyone there is deliberately giving the child away because they believe in the best. all the more so, you understand that if we talk about such a trip, it is in no
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way, well, what kind of christmas tree can it be, because we didn't understand, it's like parents, parents voluntarily give their child to health care, it turns out that they are politicians, elections are explained by the fact that explosions are dangerous here, and we will give children a holiday they will go where it is safe, as if there is a christmas tree, but still, i cannot personally understand the parents, but one more thing worries me the most is one more thing, when the parents themselves agree, see off the suitcases, give the children and there are children, raw children, children deprived of parental care they can make their own choice, whether they want to go or not. that’s how it was in kherson. i recently returned from there and spoke with the director of the social rehabilitation center, volodymyr sagayduk. he told terrible things things about the fact that 50 children from one month to four years old were stolen from one child's home. these are children, we know that in russia they have simplified the legal norm for adoption and even there. the mystery of adoption and criminal
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responsibility. well, that is, where these children are now is simply unknown. one more thing he told me mr. volodymyr told me personally that 15 children from the mykolaiv oblast were brought to his social rehabilitation center by the russians from one of the social rehabilitation centers and in what condition were these children. mr. volodymyr told me personally and let's listen on july 15, when the plantation was found by the russians from the front line, they already knew that we were from the front line, the russians brought 15 children from the mykolaiv region in military vehicles to the novopetrivsk specialized school, where the children lived for three months in the basement together with the school director and they cooked food on the fire . and when the russians brought them to us on the 15th, they were very scared. they thought that they were being taken to russia. in the occupation, there were two institutions left, this is the institution
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where i work and the children's home. well, unfortunately , the russians took the children from the children's home we don't know where they are and let's hope that they will be returned at that time. i think there were 50 or 54 children there. i don't know for sure because the children's ages are from zero to four years old . ms. daria's story is really terrible. what do you know about her about the kidnapping of the baby ? of small children, music , of course, we were aware of the whole situation from the very beginning, you remember that in ukraine there is a coordination headquarters for the protection of children's rights governmental it has been working since the first days of the war, and that is why we constantly kept our finger on the pulse, we knew what kind of institutions we have are in the temporarily occupied territory and who are constantly in danger, we kept in touch with the leaders, but unfortunately it was not possible to simply take them to the controlled territory
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, there were institutions in which the children were very seriously ill, they simply could not be transported, they had a very high risk of that they will simply die on the road, but we were constantly in touch with the leaders as long as it was possible and constantly asked for the coordination of humanitarian corridors specifically with regard to these institutions, which of course was not the case in kherson, do we know that the russians stole only those children who were the most transportable. that is, there were children with disabilities, and they took only those who were able to bring out the smallest, different children , well, that is, depending on who they could transport, and again, we have documents that have already been made public about the way russia presented it, they presented it as e-e rehabilitation, that is, they sent these children from the institution for rehabilitation, but rehabilitation to a psycho-neurological boarding school
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, but in russia, i will return to the fact that they simplified the legislation specifically on adoption and precisely in in the russian federation, there is a rule that adoption is a secret, no one has the right to tell if a child has been taken away, well , there is a secret of adoption, that is, now children from kherson could, in principle, be adopted in russia, and we don’t know anything about them, we hope that we we can find out because we have data on these children, we know exactly the list of who was there, who these children are, we know everything about them and him. we hope that we will find them, of course, the children are not needles, it is not so easy to hide them. difficult find, but so that without a trace, they transport them to different territories of the russian federation, they do not keep them in one place, but they quickly settle them in foster families, but we must understand that the secret of adoption exists in all countries, it exists, yes, but hmm, russia is a signatory of the un convention on the
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rights of the child, and it is clearly stated there that the signatory countries undertake to carry out or recognize interstate adoptions, to obtain consent from the child's country of origin, i.e. to coordinate the entire process, russia in no way does not match any information with the child's country of origin, therefore this adoption is unambiguous and not only adoption but also transfer to custody is absolutely illegal and the whole world recognizes this and russia will be punished for this and it will be forced to return all our children or it will be very difficult is it difficult, is it really difficult with the secret of adoption if the child was small, to find out where she is and that she really is a child from ukraine, it is also very difficult with teenagers, it is easier, they clearly know , remember everything, and so on, if you want a little to share his impressions of kherson, which mr. volodymyr told during the conversation,
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how he hid his children and did not let them out. he says that it is not good to say that because we still have occupied territories and we must understand that we must have schemes of influence in order to protect our children. i think we learn this way. yes, it is important not to highlight that is why we did not highlight the institutions where they are located. we tried to hide them as long as possible so that the enemy would not find them, but it is good that the children from the center of social rehabilitation of mr. volodymyra stayed in ukraine and everything is fine with them, but now they were taken to a more or less calm territory of myrny and everything is fine with them. this is how they touched on the topic of teenagers in russia, in what direction there is a separate program for ukrainian children, in my opinion it is the most terrible, it is called teenagers of russia, they mostly send these teenagers to the chechen republic. and there is a whole
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program and they show a video showing it off. and they collected teenagers from the entire territory of kherson, luhansk, donetsk and kherson regions region and sent them for patriotic re-education, and they openly talk about the fact that between the lines, when they write their releases and speeches there, they are actually preparing militants and who, after a certain time, in this brainwashing, have to take up arms next to the russian military and eh to storm ukrainian cities, in fact, here is a fragment of this on their video published by the leader of the chechen terrorists kadyrov, let's see , an extensive program of military-patriotic education, spiritual and different education, military personnel has been prepared the administrations are talking about the deputy republic, we are holding a lecture on patriotism and about the heroes of the proguardia, we also have an exhibition of modern weapons and weapons, the kevirovka
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of spetsnaz employees, but we can imagine . well, weapons are interesting for boys, yes. they are interested in running and shooting and joining some such new community, in which after a while we see what is happening there behind by the russians mobilized there, yes. how far have they washed bridges, and here in general, such a camp has been created, eh, let’s not draw analogies, as it was done there during the second world war, children were once actually made eh, terrorists into eh suicide bombers, yes, what kind of eh who threw extremely difficult tasks at someone there, but in fact the same thing is happening to ukrainian children, murderers who will kill ukrainians are trying to do it. well , according to your information, how large-scale is this program that they launched and what should we do with it specifically well, let's start with the fact that we
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understand that the scale of the brain disease itself among russians is off the charts because, well, it is so painful that one must have an imagination to do this . secondly, the russians themselves are preparing a very good evidence base for themselves responsibility in the international tribunal for everything they do, and the participation of children in armed conflicts is condemned by the whole world and they must be punished for it. in fact, even this video provides a lot of evidence, that's why i can't say about the mass because we can't enter the territory of the russian federation to count our
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ukrainian children, and i'll tell you about the fact that i spoke yesterday with a boy who returned from deportation. and this is a very smart child. i'm just proud of how our ukrainian teenagers are, he 's 16, how cunning our ukrainian teenagers are, that is, he pretended that he was ok, everything was fine, he was placed in a foster family, he went to a lyceum , he allegedly communicated and all this time he he was preparing a plan for his escape, well, that is, you can imagine why. even what we see, he carried it out, that is, he helped the ukrainians, the ukrainian side, to find out where he was and helped us, in principle, to realize our ugu, what is his name? to violate his personal boundaries, he listens to us now, he respects him, he is just a cool, cool boy. i admire him because i have no stamina
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when i go to some international conference. there are conferences, events, or food for the un general assembly, and there is a representative from russia. then i just can't help myself, i'm coming past me all the time, my hands are shaking, my eyes twitch and i'm ready for my passport, don't let go of my hands, yes and here's a boy who held himself in a fist and understood that he shouldn't glow. he has to huddle in a gray mass in order to save yourself yes, and that's why i'm here too , i don't believe that they will be able to brainwash so quickly and really knock out ukrainian children of their identity, but i'm sorry, this is again evidence of the signs of genocide, it's russification, yes , that is, it's the destruction of identity of a child and that's why they just testify. and we are collecting evidence and we will definitely bring them to justice right away. the story is also during the conversation in kherson. a 17-year-old boy and his mother were in the basement. they say on
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their phones that there were messages about ukrainian posts, they tell us, they endured, they sat, but still we were waiting for ukraine. well, in principle, our nation cannot be defeated. and there are other concepts such as kidnapping, genocide, deportation, if you take each of them separately, it fits what russia is doing now with ukrainian children. everything fits because russia does not choose what they do, and they do everything in order to get rid of giving ukraine the absolute impossibility of developing and existing as a nation , that is, they are destroying our ukrainian gene pool with all their might, that is, creating conditions in which they are not suitable for life inventing new mechanisms in order to kidnap our children because they really say that in two months we will return, then they do not return and they kill our children they torture them they rape them they advise them and they
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they are kidnapped in the broadest sense. well, they are handed over for adoption under guardianship , about which there are already many testimonies, uh, they change citizenship, documents, and actually this boy, as i spoke with, he also received russian documents, and because this is how they do it all very quickly, that is in the summer, he then signed a decree on the simplified procedure for granting russian citizenship to orphans from ukraine and the territory controlled by the militants of the dpr of the lpr . the child's affiliation is in all the documents, you are in her position in the language of birth, the name, the surname, everything has changed, so if the adoption has the right, well, if it was legal, this adoption would then have the right, but we have to understand that deportation and forced
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transfer of children - it is not, well, your imagination should not just have the image that these were the children themselves and they were taken, they came and were deported, they themselves were unhappy, they sat like this, deporting children and relocating them in absolutely different cases, we now have evidence of already returned children with deportation and relocation i.e. we have concrete evidence where children lost their parents and they were found with other adults, they were taken out and deported. and there are evidence of children who were separated from their parents during the so-called filtering, i.e. even if we have evidence that the child was deported together with the parents, it is not means that she does not need to search, she is in exactly the same danger, well, a person in deportation cannot be safe. believe me, accordingly, this is indeed confirmed that very often children are separated from their parents for filtering, we have a story of a boy sashka who returned from the war i was with my older brothers and sisters, they took you, get together, we are taking you , now you are going to another family, that is, they do
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everything . there are no criteria. these are completely different cases. they just need to take the children away. which institution in russia deals with this issue ? the ministry of defense is responsible for the war in them. there is a pkv. and this is the story you tell because we understand that she is very systematic. she works according to a specific algorithm, and in russia she is responsible for this. she came to see the children, and here is this boy with whom i was talking. yesterday, he was also at the meeting with maria lviv and belova. that is, when they were also brought, she came to the meeting for a friendly meeting, talked with the younger children, he was
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there, she personally approached him and she said why don't you come to us, we are talking here, he said why am i here for a short time, they promised me that in a month they would let me go home and we have a ska- well, yes, good, good, ok, but she is always yes, but she is always refers to the security forces, that is, the fsb is also involved in this implementation of bringing in children from ukraine, and they have a completely different system. and we do not have such a concept as a boarding school for a long time. rehabilitation and their she they have become outdated i don't care i don't know how you answer this question i don't care what kind of system they have i don't study it i don't waste my time studying the social protection system of the russian federation well that's why in any case i am not interested in it. ukraine has a specific
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task. yes, we have all the problems. yes, we still have institutions for institutional care. yes, we do. position and i have a task from the president to do everything so that every child in ukraine grows up exactly in the family. is it a biological family if possible? in a family, not in an institution of institutional care, any institution, even the best super there, i don’t know, repairs, conditions, educators will never notice a child’s family, that’s why we are working so that the system in ukraine changes, it is already changing now, those children who are identified during the full-scale invasion of the russian federation on the territory of ukraine, who were found without parental care - this is almost 5,000 children during the full-scale invasion, and already now i can say that more than 3,000 3.5 thousand of these children out of
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five were noticed, they were given to the families of their relatives, acquaintances, that is, they went into care, they are not in institutions, they remained in the circle of their family, and then a certain number of children went to an alternative family form of education. well, unfortunately, thank god a smaller percentage, we are working on it, but children still go to institutions of institutional care. how do international organizations help the return of children? a structural unit that deals with similar issues, you mean the committee for the protection of children, and i can not say that anyone specifically deals with these issues, so far the whole world the community was convinced that the
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international committee of the red cross is exactly the organization with the broadest mandate , and it is they who should search for our children , monitor the conditions of their stay, and then we would know where they are. we would return them back, that is, the red cross will not return ukrainian children, but to find and monitor the conditions of their stay, so the whole world had hoped that this would always be done, but unfortunately, we can all see very well that now the emkochuha did not live up to their expectations in this particular direction of work, let's see. perhaps something will change, but for now we have the way we have it. we are currently working with the structures of the european union and the structures of the united nations, e. to be accepted, has the world not seen such a mass
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abduction, so to say that the world community was ready for this and we have wonderful documents and international law, the geneva convention, yes, there is the un convention on the protection of the rights of children, the protection of the rights of people with disability is wonderful documents that are understandable to any adequate person, they understood if we say that we have an inadequate neighbor who is not going to live in society according to the generally accepted social contract rules. what can we talk about? that is, we now have to find new algorithms to exchange these documents and create a new algorithm to force the player to play by the rules, otherwise it is not about this , just as the world is reviewing collective security measures, it is about what everything and all institutions say, they appear to him. there were no such precedents in the world, something even in the second world war to test these mechanisms and now we are testing them and they do not work, the shops are working, the red cross is not working, it is not
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working, nothing is working, what are the documents, in fact, there are documents and they are well worked out we cannot say that nothing works there, but when you hypothetically build some algorithms that should work under normal conditions, when everyone follows the rules, then when someone does not follow the rules, then these schemes no longer work, and accordingly, we do not now say that there is such and such everything is not working, we are now talking about the fact that we are all over the world looking at some mechanisms, understanding how we can ensure our safety, you see it as a tautology of the entire population, because no, these are ukrainian children, tomorrow it could be a child of any other country, and therefore now that what we are doing for ukrainian children, in fact, we are doing for the whole world. this is how history is being written, a new history is being written, at such a terrible, terrible price for ukrainians , with such a terrible, painful experience that
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no country has, in fact, except ukraine now but, well, there are so and so, so and so, we have had such and such, which we still manage to pull out of russia, they, uh, appear, return home thanks to the help of international institutions, or is it mostly some kind of volunteer work, which i really want to talk about, but i think so you definitely won't tell me the details, you already understand. so i'll see you, not everyone understood today on the children of war portal. you can see the number, the luckiest number that makes me happy. every morning there is a line of super heroes. these are 125 children whom we have already managed to return from deportation. or forced relocation, it seems that it is very little, but in fact, for each story, it is a separate story, there is an operation to save a child , because a single algorithm does not exist. and how to return these children ? children in very different
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conditions, er, children of different ages, they are in different cities and there are different opportunities, therefore, unfortunately, there is no single mechanism, and we use support for this, i want to say that there is a lot of work on this the state team, directly, and mrs. varyshchuk and mr. lubinets, of course, as the ombudsman for human rights, these are the people who are most concerned with the issues of building a return algorithm for each special operation , for each child, for each rescue operation, and accordingly, i can say what about this team representatives of the public community are also included. and everyone who can really help with something. so thank you for your understanding, because of course i cannot comment on any algorithms that could work and even fantasize now, you and i are not we will because it means that this
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algorithm will no longer work. and we still need to return hundreds of thousands of ukrainian children . and how all this can affect the next generation of ukrainian children. you know when they ask how many children suffered as a result of a full-scale invasion. i say that it is not 440 children who abandoned there instead of more than 800 children who were injured there more than 900 instead of those children who just got there experienced sexual violence. of ukrainian children who lived in ukraine before the beginning of the full-scale conflict because they moved from their own homes, they moved around ukraine, they went abroad looking for temporary shelter a-a by the way, it is important to understand that these children are not refugees , they are seekers of temporary protection - they
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are completely different things . will return and we understand that these are children and the wounded, who unfortunately died and were deported, and those children who survived the occupation, every child was traumatized, and that is why it is very strong. unfortunately, it will affect our generation. and now a big one is being prepared the state program of the father of first lady anya olena zelenska program of psychological health of citizens of ukraine. this is a very broad , full-scale company aimed at supporting the mental health of ukrainians, because we will need to recover, we will definitely need to rebuild our country after the victory, the children of war is a new category that, unfortunately, appeared in 2022 , and in 2023, i would like to see a new category, the children of victory, today are christmas and new year holidays, and of course it's not a holiday for ukrainians, but we still have the right to remember wishes these days, and i believe that in addition to the fact that all ukrainians will
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remember the wish for the end of the war, i want everyone to make a wish that every child who is outside ukraine today, forcibly taken away by the russians, returns home and the numbers have changed by 125 saved and hundreds of thousands remain there, on the contrary, so that hundreds of thousands of ukrainian children will return home next year. it seems to me that every child deserves such and such you can give us a passport to russia, but in our hearts, ukrainians, they will always be ukrainians. daria gerasimchuk , the authorized adviser of the president of ukraine on children's rights, natali ostrovskaya valentinovskaya, night watch, friends, we dream, we believe in victory and return to ukrainian children, see you soon, i found a working store in
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