people, i don't know for what reasons, or maybe there were some financial or political issues, but he also had this in his life. that's why, but read the literature. there is a lot of it. you know what happened and we can understand what is and better understand ourselves. and what will happen to me? let's say now i'm not reading a novel, a woman in berlin, there is no author in it, but these are the diaries of a woman who experienced the russian soviet invasion in berlin at the end of the 1945 war, a very interesting, very interesting experience, and rereading many other teams. thank you for being with us subscribe to our channels in telegram on facebook on youtube like share subscribe to my page vasyl zima on facebook write your suggestions and wishes regarding the topics of our conversation we didn't really have an extension. my colleague serhiy rudenko , program verdict, and serhiy, please say hello. congratulations to vasyl.

verdict my name is serhiy rudenko . good day and good health to everyone. today is january 10, 321 days of heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian invaders. the enemy is trying to attack the city of soledar on the eastern front from three sides. for a day they covered the kherson region with various types of weapons, they are buried and wounded, unfortunately, and armenia refused to conduct air defense exercises on its territory, meanwhile, russian troops continue to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine as of the morning of january 10, russia has already lost 112,470 people in ukraine in the last day alone, the armed forces of ukraine have destroyed 710 orks since the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost in ukraine 384 tanks, 6,154

armored vehicles, 2,073 artillery systems, 434 rocket launcher systems, 217 means against petrovna defense 285 aircraft 275 hecopters 4809 units of automotive equipment 16 personnel ships 723 cruise missiles 1860 drones 183 units of special equipment about the aid plan of the united states of america of ukraine in 2023 and putin, who is already deeper and deeper in the bunker. well, and the possible collapse of the odkb , we will talk about all this over the next hour with our guest - he is a politician-diplomat, the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2007-2009 volodymyr hryshko mr. volodymyr good day good day i wish you good health, i am glad to see you on our broadcast. i congratulate you, mr. serhiy, and

since we will be watching for the first time in the new year, i want to congratulate you and all our dear viewers on the new year and wish all of us one, so that it will be victorious for us. thank you mr. volodymyr, victory to all of us in 2023. president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi announced the diplomatic marathon which, as he said, has been ongoing since the beginning of his visit to washington at the end of december. the president announced good news on the eve of the new rammstein. let's see and hear president zelenskyi. let's continue our diplomatic marathon that started last year. from a visit to washington during this day the prime minister of the czech republic the president of slovenia the prime minister of portugal the prime minister of north macedonia with all i

spoke about increasing the defense support of our state, about the need to defeat russian aggression already this year, and about the implementation of all elements of our peace formula, from restoring the territorial integrity of ukraine to punishing terrorists for what they have done, this will be good news for our state, and it is very important that we reach an agreement with our partners right now, on the eve of the new rammstein and against the background of another brutal crime by the occupiers. so, vladimir, the year 2023 actually started with positive news for us, because countries and the united states of america promise to hand over tanks and heavy equipment to us. does this mean that the whole civilized world has finally understood or we are all together russia or russia is all of us alone eh, you know mr.

sergey, i think that eh, it’s really broken under well, yes so to speak, more and more civilized countries are gaining momentum. as you rightly pointed out , they understand that we have no other choice, and i want to confirm the words of president zelensky about the truly unprecedented diplomatic activity that ukraine is currently demonstrating, and our diplomacy continues to show a high class and i am very happy because my colleagues who are active fighters of this diplomatic front today are showing really very, very good results because actually today diplomacy is not the first, but as someone once said of

ukrainian politicians and not the second front , that is, thanks to the efforts of diplomacy at all levels, starting from the president and ending with the employees of the diplomatic missions of ukraine abroad, of the central apparatus, we definitely achieve certain results or they are like that er, what we wanted. unfortunately, not yet, this means that there is a very small amount of work ahead, but here we are talking about a trend, a trend that is very positive in relation to heavy weapons, this is really now probably a key moment and if we talk about leopard-2 tanks in various modifications, then their in nato member countries. well , in europe alone, i mean a total of more than 2,000 pieces. if you imagine that at

least 10-15% of this number, but at one time , the armed forces of ukraine receive, well, that means that this is the advantage that they speak our military will be secured and if so, then well, there is no reason not to take this right step, because you see, now the western partners really understand that decisive steps must be taken. and i think that even what the french president is demonstrating now macron, who recently spoke about some security guarantees for russia, shows that this is a mental psychological breakdown. because it is

necessary to help ukraine seriously and with serious weapons, they are really on. in this case, the united states of america is asking because over the past month, the administration of joseph biden has repeatedly demonstrated and articulated that under no circumstances will they leave ukraine alone with russia, how does the position of washington affect the attitude of other countries of the world towards the war in ukraine the position of the united states of america is decisively decisive in this war, so it seems to me that it is decisive and this is demonstrated by the numbers of er, well, the aid provided by the united states of america, they really er are very, very serious and very big. of course, america er is a er powerful

country and it has all the necessary reserves for this, but its example is inspiring for other countries, and here i er very positively noted if we talk about the ratio of population and aid, so to speak, then it is now also in the leaders of e-e, in fact, the second country in terms of aid to ukraine, and this is after it started by denying any possibility at all in the supply of e-e serious weapons for ukraine you remember in the beginning there were fairy tales, in the beginning there were in the beginning there were tents er, well, that is, not at all what is decisive for victory. and today, er, this is a transition to the topic of those quietly armed, which er, have exactly this crucial importance, so there are still no er, leopard tanks yet uh, there are doubts and there are

certain uh, such uh, well, trying not to be the first, but it seems to me that uh, the dam will still be breached, because on uh, if uh, pressure on germany from the usa, france , poland and other key allies will be increased and germany will not object at least with regard to her tanks from other countries starting to arrive in ukraine, she herself will definitely be forced to take this step, and for some reason it seems to me that this is, well, actually only a matter of days, not even weeks, and i agree with you that the next rammstein at the end of this month in this

regard can and should be a turning point. and why , vladimir, did the world delay for quite a long time the provision of heavy weapons to ukraine, which allowed to consolidate the quantitative advantage of ukrainians over the russians? what were they afraid of? well, i have i mean weapons, tanks, in particular, airplanes, about airplanes, so far we are not talking about long -range missiles. uh, regarding the planes, they are sergey, i think that we simply do not have this information publicly, but the work is going on, and it seems to me that after the tanks, there will definitely be planes, because uh, well, a successful

military operation cannot be uh, only on land, it must be covered from the sky, but it's a little bit looking forward to the question why was the world afraid, well, it is still afraid today. let's be honest and objective, the world is afraid because it does not understand and does not know what russia will be like after the military victory of ukraine and this er actually er and this is actually the main reason why we don't get all the necessary weapons on exactly as we ask for it yes there are er there are certain er definitely reasons that er we also understand it is that you need to be able to use these weapons and weapons must be properly maintained

repaired must be uh quite large stock of spare parts, well, in a word, it is about things that i understand, but our heroes show that there is no such weapon that they can not master and master quite quickly , so the question of serhii here, it seems to me, is not about technical physical reasons, questions of political reasons and they consist in the fact that there is no strategy for the development of the situation in the post-defeated russia in russia, which has suffered a defeat. and this defeat will objectively cause very serious changes and changes in the political landscape of russia, and what it has to be with whom to agree on what to talk about, how will the regions of this understanding in the west react to this. unfortunately, there is none, and therefore by delaying the

supply of weapons to us for victory, he is actually delaying the answer to this question, and it seems to me that this is where the main problem for today lies instead of thinking quickly to develop scenarios, to offer options, to discuss them, uh, well, so far, they are trying to move away from this work, various proposals are appearing, ideas are appearing that we should work with the russian opposition, what she seems to be able to influence something. it is necessary to gradually take your time and give russia time to think about it. and so on

. unrealistic, because the collapse of russia after the military victory of ukraine will proceed at an extremely fast pace, and we need to know how to react to this situation. well, for now, unfortunately, we do not have an answer to this question . i do not understand what will happen next with the nuclear weapons that are now, well, relatively speaking in the same center in the same hands and in the event that the collapse of the soviet union of the russian federation begins, although the equal sign can be drawn that ignorance or lack of knowledge and lack of knowledge about what will happen after that is meant with nuclear weapons and is stopping the west, and this is where the braking occurs at the level of providing

such heavy weapons to ukraine, yes , you are right, this is one of the key factors that forces the west to be careful in its forecasts and not to take drastic steps uh, because really no one understands what can happen with uh, these nuclear weapons, well, on the other hand, let's also be uh, realistic and understand that only the statement of the key nuclear powers, the united states of america, great britain and france, regarding whatever -what attempt to use nuclear weapons will mean a total and immediate response in these three countries, which will result in the destruction not only of the russian nuclear triad, but also on the territory of russia itself. i think that such things are read by people

who are still able to think in russia. it after all, first of all, those people who can operate these weapons will have such a cold shower on their heads with very formative consequences, because it is unlikely that anyone, except for the insane putin and his close ones, wants to die in this thermonuclear catastrophe and go to paradise, that's why there may be such elements of political pressure and political influence on those who will have power in russia after that, but this is not the only factor, sergey, because there is a factor er, national-territorial russia is not homogenous state russia is a state that

consists of many more than one and a half hundred e-e peoples and nationalities of e-e different regional associations and here is the question: how will they behave after e-e this moscow colonial center ceases actually manage this region, won't there be er-e chivaras between these subjects of the current russian federation, what can they fly into, is part of the civil war starting, or doesn't it start with the formation of some er-er, well, such local armies of the er-e wagnerian type that will be to fight with each other or is it an armed chaos that will not grow in the whole of russia, the question is definitely eh and they are such that you can

not not pay attention to it and you have to agree with this, but the main thing is that you have to find an answer to any question and that it seems to me that for some reason they are trying not to find this answer so far, but simply to postpone it in time, they say, we will see, uh, this is the position, there are programs on the eve of the new year holidays, mr. volodymyr , general kyrylo buda, new forecasts about what the year 2023 will be like, and bohdanov said that according to his data, putin is obviously sick with oncology and with his departure, the situation will change. what do you think, i will also provide you with a diplomat, a career diplomat, a professional diplomat with extensive experience, not a diplomatic question. if putin's death can put an end to the russian-ukrainian war or the current architecture, the power that exists in russia,

it can, in principle, turn into north korea, and it doesn’t matter how this korea will be, who will lead korea, end of the ir or kimmersen, well, it means that this the structure that is currently built regardless of whether putin will be at the head of this russia or not , it will continue to exist, er, have you seen mr. sergey, now i want er, already out of the diplomatic service, and er, i can er, give my assessments as i them uh, i can definitely uh, i can't uh, anyway, uh, i'm being too frank . but i'll tell you this, uh, i believe uh, the information that uh, well, about which mr. budanov recently stated. he has there are enough sources

that give him the right to talk about such things. i have other information that is not intelligence , but you know how they say that it is pleasant there is only 5% of the information, the rest is open, but by analyzing the open information , you can come to those conclusions that are sought to be distinguished . uh, we laughed, and uh, that from the last time, when he stands alone in the church and uh, there is no one near him, you are a testimony to the fact that the fear of uh, getting sick with any uh, disease, from flu to covid, is so great that it can be fatal for his health, well, you don't need to be an academician from medicine to understand that in such cases

, they talk about one thing, that the state of health is critically weak, and any external infection can make you an orphan for a long time, as our classic said, so i think the situation looks like this will his death change the situation, it will definitely change , because a group of people who will be ready to make very, very serious concessions compared to what he is doing can enter the arena today, putin and his closest entourage and this is a certain chance for which by the way, it seems to me and i hope for a collective event that instead of

thinking about russia's schedule and what to do with this whole conglomerate of different entities it's much easier to actually agree with more or less well more or less i repeat once again, an adequate group of people who will be able to transfer power, but will be obedient, and who will be able to manage the country so that it does not cause global upheavals. it seems to me that this is exactly the leitmotif today. - what not to think about er, so to speak, objective things, and objective things er consist in the fact that this russia has no chance of survival, just as the soviet union had no chance of being used in front of

its team. and although the western figures of that time er they trumpeted in all the trumpets that there is no need to collapse the ussr, it collapsed and history did not listen to the former, as if black, or other western figures who loved gorbachev very much and really wanted him to remain a co-owner . well, because there are objective factors, so to speak , there are the objective course of history and history is not listens to these or other politicians. she just goes her own way. and this is exactly the way she will go. and in relation to the russian federation, this is an artificial entity - it is an entity that was created because of many hundreds of conquests, humiliation, looting, destruction of indigenous peoples, but they still yes, they still exist on the territory of russia and they have the same right to independent existence,

which free countries eh, other eh, so to speak , continents and so on, why conditional conditional kalmyks do not have the right to live freely ah yes the same way the portuguese live, why do not temporary workers have the same right that the dutch have, why do the chechens not have holidays or pensions? it’s not a joke, but he and the chechens don’t have the same right as the same ticket holders whether or not the chistovci , that is, there are many questions here, but i think that the removal of any removal of putin from power will start this process, possible options are possible, some certain transitional moments are possible, but the fact that russia is on the path to its decline. well, this objectively, you don't even need to walking paths, as they say, by the way, mr.

vladimir, did you mention about uh, this departure to or the approach to putin’s temple, which is called home alone , uh, that’s how russian propagandists explain, they say that he is a leader who went out on his own to god, that is, not because he is afraid of something, he went to god on his own. he loves symbols, and let's see how it was interpreted on russian propaganda tv channels. since i don't even want to discuss it, it's the mud they wrote. i want to convey the following . vladimir olenchenko. a man who uses frequencies uh, here on a merino, he does certain things. he loves symbols, and ah, the fact that he was alone

in the temple is perhaps one of the most serious symbols of the outgoing year, this is not a reference, it is an informational one, such a very deep topic, not only for those who are surrounded by him. well, for all of us, look, he shows eh, in my opinion, to everyone that he understands all the responsibility of what is happening what is it exactly on his shoulders now that all the events that are taking place, the historical preservation of the sovereignty of the russian federation , it is difficult - it is difficult, and he is the only one in the customs office, it seemed that all the surroundings that, uh, last time there appeared with him somewhere, people who in general they were close to him, they are now at

a little, a little distance, that he is a leader and a leader goes one on one before the lord god. well, she almost said goodbye to him, that the leader goes one on one before the lord god, well, that is impression that it was some kind of memorial service on a russian channel, that's how they knew sergius , and you know. well, what kind of people were there with him? they spent two or three weeks in such a strict quarantine, they were being checked . well, they took tests on everything and anything from them. well, because putin is not allowed to visit putin in a different way, and it’s not even a small secret. everyone knows about it and everyone writes about it, so i think this is really a kind of farewell look at his table and man which speaks to god, a new one has a different face,

this is a formality - this is an understanding that everything is about the organ, that you are truly alone, because there is no one behind you. i have joined this adventure and the adventure will complete you. this is actually about what can you say by looking at these eyes? all the shots. well, the propagandists , er, serhiy. well, they are paid accordingly. they will speak in black and white. not black and white. you know, recently i will share with you, our dear viewers, my i recently reviewed the history on e. now i am writing one small e-e one material reviewed what russian sources say about catherine the second well -known prostitute in history who somehow miraculously became the empress, yes, yes, you know, these are again propagandistic

things, uh, in fact, they are presented as a great tsarina, how, how, what, what well, i saw her there a little over a century ago. so, without noticing it at all, she was actually, well, well, i don’t want to continue the topic with which i started, but the real story writes about her exactly in this way. she was not engaged in any state affairs, they were engaged in what she was the most interesting thing to do is how we should perceive all this propaganda, this is a typical lie. this is a typical edition of wishful thinking - it is the whitening of that e black that will never be white, and therefore i would not particularly react to all this propaganda tinsel that is launched from moscow all channels, it is aimed exclusively at