in english, uh, things uh, actually, they are presented as being cured, as, as, which, which, well, i saw there a little bit, a century ago, but without noticing it at all, she was actually, uh, well, i don't want to continue the topic with which i started, but the real history writes about her exactly in this way. she was not engaged in any state affairs, she was engaged in what she was most interested in doing, that's actually uh-uh , uh-uh, how should we perceive all this propaganda, this typical lie. this is a typical edition of wishful thinking - it's whitewashing that e black, which will never be white, that's why i wouldn't particularly react to all this propaganda tinsel that is launched from moscow channels, it is aimed exclusively at the local population, which is toothy, which is

primitive-thinking, so there can be no other option. what i wanted to ask you, mr. volodymyr, is this isolation that russia fell into, well, there are several versions of why russia fell into isolation, first of all, that putin and the fsb did not calculate the consequences of this so-called special military operation to put it simply, a military invasion on the territory of ukraine, and secondly, that putin and his team actually tried to create such a light version of north korea, which they are very good at. they created their concentration camp somewhere there in in the russian federation, they manage the resources of this concentration camp, well, at least now there are still opportunities, there are people, uh, fully

controlled tvs, according to your opinion, uh, uh, he has the uh-uh opportunity to develop this version, that they didn’t miscalculate, and secondly, what is this, the russian federation and this is isolation it is predicted. well, you already know about it, we talked about it in the same way. putin miscalculated in all, so to speak, his directions, which he considered realistically achievable, starting from reactions to his aggression on the part of western countries and ending with the fact that every ukrainian citizen, well, almost everyone because, unfortunately, we also have collaborators, but this is a separate story, but 99% of ukrainian citizens of ukraine

will fight against the russian he didn't think of it as aggression, he didn't count on it believed that he would pass through ukraine as he once came to crimea. why? because that's when the ukrainian authorities made a colossal mistake of handing him over without pain . well, if the government at that time had been decisive and understood the intricacies of this unarmed surrender, i think that we would have avoided a lot of negative things, but unfortunately , history does not have a conventional way and we have the situation we have today . would like to build er in russia this er north korea

number two well, but still, er, well, it is difficult and difficult despite even this delusion or propaganda, because, well, some element of reflection still remains in those heads, and even though i read all the time, and in the russian public on and er, the most popular of them er , still, from time to time, some more or less healthy thought slips through that this adventure will cost russia dearly, despite the fact that it is superior most certainly support this course tells about what we we will win, he praises putin at all levels, but especially now, quite critical things are appearing somewhere, some

blogger will write an unconventional opinion for the russian political beaumond, some actor will give an interview what makes those who are feverish, which undermines internal stability, and so on. and so on , that is, such separate outbreaks of common sense appear. does this mean that they can change the situation as a whole? i think that at the moment no, but if this clique putin is going to go, or she will go, most likely like this it is better to say that eh some moments of this eh insight of at least some part of society will take place if the west puts russia under real control, as it was over, let's say, the western parts of germany after the second world war, then well

, then it is possible that some certain transitional options can still be seen. but i repeat once again. my opinion is that strategically, russia has no chance. it is doomed to collapse because there has not yet been a single empire in the world that would not collapse. russian specific, this is true, but also and it, like any other empire, has its beginning and its end, that's why you can build different structures. but it seems to me that you just need to look deeper into the objective factors and build your policy on them, friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel and also on our social networks for those who are watching us now live on youtube and facebook please like this video on youtube we are conducting a poll on the

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about the collective security agreement, which is opposed to nato . so to say that putin is still trying to keep the leaders of the former soviet countries in order to demonstrate that the north atlantic alliance still has some kind of military-political bloc, the prime minister of armenia, nikol pashinin, said that armenia is not is going to talk to the russian federation on the subject of the need to open the lachyn corridor, well, actually, this lychyn corridor was the reason why yerevan said that we will not conduct training in the dkb on its territory. armenians in this latin corridor are the so-called peacekeepers of the russian

federation, watching how putin is still trying to maintain this structure. well, it is quite strange, but still it there are also obligations of the odc countries, they have taken on some and adhere to these obligations . what do you think about the odc and the same cis and the same union of belarus and russia, it still depends on putin for now, and with putin's departure, everything it will collapse like in the old house, i am with you zone p serhii 100%, uh, these are actually artificial formations that do not really have any filling under them it actually

violates the needs of its participants obligations, she does not consider herself really responsible for those things under which there are signatures of the russian and other parties and so on this control is now decreasing uh, just uh, at a crazy pace, because if uh, putin is publicly told in his face, uh, treat us with aeneas post-soviet mythologies. and what about normal states, well , this means that even in these countries, which uh trembled in front of the problems er and continued to do it by the way er and in recent years the same thing is happening, first of

all mental changes, they understand that it is impossible to wait for er protection from russia, this is a joke and the example of armenia speaks for this it is very, very eloquent if the president of kazakhstan publicly says that we will not recognize your pseudo-republic there because it violates the fundamental principle of international law and so on and so on. well, it means that everything is still here. on the line and if, or rather, when putin's regime collapses, believe me , there will not even be a trace of all these pseudo-formations that will immediately go somewhere in history forever and they will remember it with a smile and about- what kind of counterbalance can we talk about if ukraine alone, not being

a member of the alliance, actually demilitarized the russian federation. if this country is our country, which is not a member of the alliance for a year, almost a year, it has been on the defensive . what is the army? the use of real nato weapons . what we talked about with you, mr. sergiu, at the beginning of our conversation, believe me, after that, we will not allow the paradigm of a chief subordinate with the kremlin, because everyone has understood what russia really is, and that this is the country that, apart from his own interests in relations with others . he doesn't think about anything. there is no equal partnership. no, there is no cooperation. these are all propagandistic

tricks that are becoming more and more understandable, because as soon as uh, none of them are putin 's scheming, uh, ideas will disappear just as quickly. about the union state about the dkb about this uh about this about this so-called commonwealth of independent states and so on what is dead, well , we can't be alive yesterday secretary of the security council of the russian federation mykola patroshev once again voiced the kremlin's lie that russia is not is at war with ukraine, he began to talk about what you see, the united states of america is showing two friendly peoples, to confirm his words, patroshev began to voice propandiian ramblings about the fact that ukrainian traditions are close to the people of russia, not his convictions, the heritage of the russian people is inseparable from the culture of ukrainians, well, in a word, petrushev and this entire kremlin team. they

are trying to present the war against ukraine as a war against the whole world, or at least a war against nato or the united states of america, not according to yours, they do not sincerely believe that they are they fighting here with nato or are they just trying to explain to the domestic consumer to the domestic consumer why the war they started nine years ago is still going on on ukrainian soil i recently saw a video where on e-e sakhalin psycholinsk in my opinion or kamchak in my opinion sakhalin teachers e-e so you know e-e how it is done on it was done at children's soviet matinees e-e they stand in the oven and read some idiotic excuse me poems e about what they

support this war of aggression uh, they say that one of them at least russian publics are oversaturated with this kind of statements that pop out from time to time he is upstairs and he says that the hatred for ukrainians is over the top there, so what the patroshem is saying is that this attempt is now again to find some kind of eh, another catch so that it is somehow possible through us, through ukrainian society , to influence our government, so that they say well, we have started it's kind of softer to ask the question, well, this

once again proves that the kremlin's eyes they don't understand what they're actually talking about, they've got it into their heads that er, ukrainians are them and we russians are ukrainian and that's why we're just a little bit sorry, i'm a little abnormal and that's why we need to be brought up in this way and everything will be fine and then we will unite again and there won't be any more of these ukrainian nationalists, as they say, shaved head a very, very long time ago, they grew up on this, and several generations believe that this is exactly the case. this is not putin's war against ukraine

. er, so er, all these brothers and things are aimed at, without a doubt the internal audience, but the problem is that this internal audience perceives such things as a pure coin, they also believe that we need to be mitralized on ourselves , we need to nationalize and so on and so on this is what the russians will have to live with for the next generations and pay for this shameful position, because this payment will definitely be uh. and now we actually have to think about how to do with this uh, this amount of uh uh, well, sorry, on the basis of

to this understanding of the wild people , at least some cells of common sense should be formed, which will reject this chauvinism, this russian fascism, and finally gradually return to common sense, because for now it is the same wild horde that lives in some kind of illusion invented by itself uh, a phantom uh, from which she can't uh, still give up on that. by the way, the tragedy is the future tragedy of the uh, russian population. because it will be a very painful process of returning to normality, mr. volodymyr. i will also ask you about turkey, because literally a week ago of the president of turkey and erdoğan spoke

on the phone with mr. putin and was going to hold talks with mr. zelensky, mr. putin said that he is ready for so-called peace talks with which, with a certain peace, if ukraine behaves with the reality of the territorial reality , as he said well , it means that putin has bitten off a part of the ukrainian land from us, and quite a large part of it. it is clear that the president of turkey is now living in anticipation of the elections. on june 18 of this year, the elections for the president of turkey and the parliamentary elections will be held. russia is needed in rather difficult situations and trade with russia is very important for the russian federation. turkey is a window for everyone in one way or another, but that erdogan is one

of the world leaders. well, at least his country is a member of the north atlantic alliance, and it is clear that for putin it is also in is there a way out of the current situation, in your opinion, or could turkey play in this situation in a different way, or traditionally, turkish diplomacy and turkish politics are always like this, it is ambiguous, because on the one hand uh, turkey supplies weapons to ukraine, and on the other hand, it is ready to sell uh, russian grain or russian gas to europe and other countries of the world, uh, you see mr. sergey, i think that uh, erdoğan uh, well, he really implements uh- this is the course that is the most profitable for him personally, and for him the principles in

this case do not play any role. who is the mediator of the negotiations well, from the very beginning, it was absolutely ridiculous , and in which ukrainian politician would agree to admit these so-called putin's jokes about the fact that modern reality must be taken into account. well, it's clear to a schoolboy that such negotiations will never take place, and he also perfectly understands this. erdoğan, but he needs his own political coast in order for the turkish society to see him as a world leader or one of the world leaders to talk about the fact that turkey is doing everything possible for it to

end well, what a healthy person common sense will say that war is good . of course, everyone will say that war is bad because it brings the misfortune of death, and so on and so on, that's why my leader's desire to stop the war is definitely positive. well, just a question on under what conditions and what will happen after the end of the war on unfair terms, but this part is definitely not discussed anymore, only the first positive one is taken and that is what the whole policy is done. promising approaches for solution of the issue in essence but in order to position oneself as one of those world leaders who participate in the

solution, including such a node, well , this is very positive, so i think that we should not wait for something else here is a typical use of external factors for internal political e-e dividends on which the antenna calculates and until the month of june we will hear from him more than once that he is ready to e-e spread all e-e turkish carpets on all possible turkish roads for in order to meet dear guests to offer them the formula of peace , fully understanding that nothing can be seen from this, vladimir and that the leader of china is ready to spread out all the calls uh for putin because on the eve of the new year there was a phone conversation or a video call uh putin on xinjiang and putin said about the fact that

the leader of china is going to russia in the spring, because i understand that he presented it so that it seems that china will support russia, what does this mean for us? here, i think that instead of thick rugs, there will be a thin mat, you know. eh, eh, that's exactly what it is eh will not allow eh to buy with its economic eh stability, which keeps the eh regime, including the same blinding on the surface for the sake of eh something economic in the context of helping russia, china was warned and warned very harshly that in the event that he moves to the line in helping russia, then very serious negative consequences are waiting for him and

he understands all the stops very well, we have already repeatedly discussed that the economy of china is tied to the western economy and the severing of ties with the western economy will mean a real and very fast collapse of everything that uh today china has therefore, none of the mats to which putin invites him for the synthesis are interesting politically , yes, practically . he has very clear ideas about which territories should immediately go to china , because he considers them illegally captured by the russian federation, and then there as bloody luck, so i think that too much

support for russia and china is not profitable for either side, and so on enough a cautious reaction is political, so it does not oblige him to do anything, but practically no, i think that this situation will continue. thank you , vladimir, for participating in the program. i wish you good health. take care of yourself and your relatives. see you in the next broadcasts, friends , volodymyr ogrysko - politician-diplomat, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2007-2009 , we remind you that we work live on the espresso tv channel, so please, if you are watching us live now on social networks, like this video subscribe to our social networks well, you can become a sponsor of our youtube channel under this video there is a sponsor button, there you will find detailed instructions on how to help our youtube channel, we will be grateful to you

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