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hand over to the 406th separate artillery brigade named after general khorunzhy oleksiy almazov join the gathering let's get closer to victory together glory to ukraine greetings dear viewers of the espresso tv channel my name is vasyl zima, this is a program about the world view of vasyl zima . during the next 40, seven minutes, we will talk about very important topics, of course, not related to the present one way or another, but we will talk about the situation in russia, which we may not see which one we don’t really know , but which also exists, which in one way or another affects the course of the russian federation’s war against ukraine, today’s program, we call it putin and the void, a prerequisite for what this is exactly what we will talk about. today was the christmas celebration in moscow, when vladimir putin came to the orthodox cathedral and
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stood alone with the priest. do you know who did such a good thing? starting from 2019, with putin, there were fewer and fewer people at christmas less less in 20 the third year vladimir putin was left alone in the church or is it only loneliness in the church or is it loneliness in politics e loneliness in power and loneliness in life in that right now, while he is alone, someone somewhere is dividing power in russia or trying to take over this power by honest or dishonest methods, this is what we will talk about. how will this affect the situation in ukraine during the course of the war? years old russian oppositionist panel i greet you good afternoon, before we see the video, i will first of all ask you about putin and the void, this is a real
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void and a vacuum, what is this pretended void that putin himself actually creates? no, i think that when a person has been in power for so long, what if things are different? it may be normal for him to have a certain environment, there are certain friends, there are certain partners, but there are almost no such close people. yuriy kovalchuk is a person he trusts and with whom he consults regularly er and he sees this during the coronavirus, she was the only person who could get to him there in novoagaryov, but in general it is not as close a relationship as it can be between normal people. people
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felt the atmosphere of putin's christmas celebration in the church, there were only guards walking in the corridors and sometimes you could see the priest who sang the eternal glory there or what he sang there and then who, in principle, only periodically baptized himself, let's see, look at this one. i don't even want to discuss it, that's the dirt they wrote. i want to convey the following: vladimir olenchenko, a man who often teaches students, and he does certain things on the merino. he loves symbols, and the fact that he was alone in the temple is probably one of the most serious. symbols of the outgoing year, this is not a package, something informative, such a very deep
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topic, not only for those who are surrounded by him. well, for all of us, look, he shows eh, in my opinion, to everyone that he understands all the responsibility, what is happening to him? the shoulders have now fallen, here are all the events that are taking place, the historical preservation of the sovereignty of the russian federation is difficult, it is difficult, and he is the only one who can do it. who in general are close to him, they are now a little bit far away. how idle that he is a leader and a leader. he goes one on one before god. god knows, it reminds me of a
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movie. i'm going to lie, maybe you can tell me the movie tsar there, where he played. by the way, this one is called okhlobystin. who calls it very aptly, nevzorov olakhastin. the late yano yankovsky played there, and the late russian actor also played the tsar. just like that, there was such an episode when ivan the terrible went to god to pray, he was also himself well, but at least according to this film, ivan the terrible demonstrated some kind of faith with you, he was actually a very superstitious person, i don’t know if he was superstitious or not, but this is the story when he carved out the neighboring cities, he carved out novgorod, and i don't remember whether it was a work or a work, he came to the city and there jumped out a local, uh, local blessed nikitka . bad the consequences, under ivan the terrible, he fell, fell into the shadows, he was so afraid of this sign that
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he did not touch the city . until your end, you become lonelier, the same was the case with stalin, by the way, who also distanced himself from everyone whom he could distance, in the end, whom he distanced from him, how scared he was that they obviously shortened his age age and here is the question is it just that putin no longer influences any processes in russia, or has he removed himself from them, or is it just symbols, as he said. here is this girl, the presenter in the video we watched , but in fact, everything is fine with him and there is no loneliness or distance from there are no processes of real processes of influence on the situation in russia . well, as we already said, loneliness is simply the real fate of a dictator of any dictator, and it is normal for him, and the main thing is that many people do not notice
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that putin does not is hollow e-e hollow around him, he is hollow. he is the emptiness that spreads er all over russia and which he tries to spread er even around the country and er it is such a deadly void er but it will be like that no no for a very long time we let's fill in and now we see such a competition between two models of e-e power there is an asian model a-a when a king, as you said there, a leader a-a a leader head he is lonely he is alone he is such a sacred person e-e it is impossible to touch e- there is
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no one around him. he is just there is one european model when a leader is honed by many people and he is the first run of equals eh and eh he is always with people he is always surrounded he is with ideas eh and he is just an average person eh ordinary and what we see now in ukraine, and if you compare zelenskyi and her putin, this is it, this is it. zelensky is at the front, surrounded by the military . putin is alone in the temple, although even before that, he was in the temple with other people. this is the first time that he 1:1 we we are adding political scientist volodymyr fesenko to the conversation mr.
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volodymyr welcomes you i think you have seen this video we showed putin in the temple, we took it as such a beginning for our conversation, such a symbol of a certain loneliness of the russian dictator who perfectly removed everyone from himself or does not let anyone near him or, again, creates an illusion of such loneliness, which in reality is only an illusion and here it is very important to understand not where in russia the informational psychological operation is working, where uh, what is happening, what is actually happening, well, besides, vladimir putin at the end of 2022 canceled several trips to the territory of russia federation meetings there with people at certain enterprises, he didn't go to timmy, and there was also some national point, plus he canceled his annual address to the people. well, actually, that's how they say the icing on the cake happened loneliness in the temple for the first time in many years probably during the entire administration, he remained completely alone, if you, from the point of view of a political scientist, did not comment on this, this is
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a certain message, this is a certain symbol. important decisions in russia, which are obviously taken over by other people, er, you know mine. when i watched the video you mentioned , the same association arose. the same association appears, visually putin really looks hollow, well, in russian , the figure of putin is uh, but this is a diagnosis, this is also a diagnosis, i don’t think that there is some kind of signal to the russians, i think that this is a reflection of putin’s current state and worldview, i think that i agree absolutely with me er with that said ilya, what is this loneliness in general, it is characteristic of dictators, but it can get worse, so you correctly mentioned
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stalin. in the last years of his life, when he became paranoid, mistrust of everyone , and i think that putin has something similar now. he doesn't trust anyone and they say that even there he had certain problems in his relationship with kawaichuk, yakavalchuk is now there trying to overcome them somehow and again log in let's try to pick him up again. and now i want to show you. well, my editor prepared a video illustration or such a photo illustration of the evolution of putin's loneliness. here you see first him with medvedev and his wife. he and his wife are still sitting there. sebyanin, uh , medvedev's wife and medvedev, then putin and sobyanin - that's a cry for the year well, it's as if they didn't come to the funeral with these candles, of course well, actually, uh, the last picture
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is putin himself well, that is, the next picture should be in principle, putin is no longer there. well, that is, according to logic, it should. that's how it happens. i have many, many jokes about the fact that now sobyannia is not putin's wife, well, one of such loyal associates of his, obviously, you know what um, when we talk about we understand that the course of the war began this year with an understanding in ukraine and in russia, and in the west in europe, in britain, well, in the european union, in britain, in the united states of america , it began with an understanding that the whole situation must be resolved at the fronts well, at least now is definitely not the time for negotiations, uh, everyone zelensky's proposals on the peace formula were rejected by the russian federation. russia did not offer anything, and everyone gave an understanding that both nato and radjeta and pardogan that now there are no prerequisites for peace, at least russia does not want it, the situation is being resolved on the front line, our partners in nato and in the usa and in britain, they now they are actively preparing to hand over weapons to us. we are waiting for the next rammstein, which
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should take place there on the 20th of january. well, we are waiting for something that will strengthen the armed forces of ukraine. well, it will not strengthen and will give even more opportunities on the fronts, and that is, at least for a certain time, the situation will still be resolved at the front, and there it will be clear. that is why we talk about the war as something that is ongoing and it is not known how long it will last, but there is also such a concept as russian society and it also exists and you know what surprises me when people say that nothing is impossible in russia movements, no changes, nothing is impossible. i do not agree with that, and yet i want to say one thing , we do not know sociology in russia, we do not know , in principle, the mood of people, it is not studied, it is not researched, in your opinion, what are the moods, because from what i see video when bloggers travel around russia recording people, well, a lot of people say that they don't want putin, so they don't know what will happen without him, but they also don't want such a life anymore, are there
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any moods and what factors, in your opinion , could affect the situation they say there some revolutionary or riots are different from yana pugacheva well, but in principle, are there any factors that could change the situation or at least influence putin, banally speaking, scare him well, first of all, i want to comment on what you said about peace to say that, of course, russia does not want peace, but it wants to measure it, it is a big difference, but it is actually trying to create pressure on ukraine, to get this truce, in order to regroup its troops and start fighting again, but cleanly formally, it is perceived by many as a desire for peace, which i am mistaken, but this is what putin is trying to create, and all this so -called christmas truce is precisely because of this, and returning to your question about
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sociology and general public sentiment within the russian federation, then here e- the situation is like this, i said that hmm, in russian society, there are probably about 12 or 20% of the population who have a very negative attitude towards the war. closer to 10 e-e they are the opposite are set up so-called patriotically, that is, they want to destroy ukraine there and capture this territory and restore the russian empire, and all the others are just such a swamp that is not set up in any way, they have such skills
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that it is a learned term helplessness , that is, people understand that they ca n't influence for any reason, that no one asks them, that they can't change the country's course, and they try to just sit quietly, trying to pursue at this time, they understand that it is all very dangerous of course, they are generally opposed to mobilization, but when they receive this letter, it means that they need to contact the military commissariat , they go because he is a policeman. now in russia i am dominating. i will only
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briefly tell you some information for our tv viewers. yesterday we talked about the fact that in ochakiv, the enemy fired at ochakiv, mykolaiv region, and vitaliy kim, the head of the military-civilian administration of mykolaiv region, said that where they were hit the enemies, so the russians used, by the way, expensive rockets, daggers of which they had so little left in their arsenal, in fact, and they pierced a meter of concrete with these rockets and led to the detonation of a very powerful mine explosion, these were mines from the time of the second world war against ship mines that were collected there in sand was laid and concrete was poured from above, about a meter of concrete was poured so that they would not explode, the russians for some reason thought that there was an ammunition depot of the armed forces of ukraine, they broke through this concrete and it led to the detonation of a mine, well, besides that half of the city of ochakiv was left without windows and without roofs, as vitaliy writes, nothing bad happened to anyone. well, also in mykolaiv, people were a little scared because the explosion was heard many, many kilometers from the center of events . well, also the armed forces of ukraine today hit the dnipro river and the russian the boat
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that they neutralized, well, whether it sank or not is unknown, but from the artillery from the coastal artillery, the armed forces of ukraine mined another russian ship, well, it’s just from such an urgent situation, i told you, volodymyr, now we will continue with you, i would like to ask that's what dmytro piskov said yesterday that uh, the cossack is evil. what's his name? is he also dmitry or dmitriev? well, in a word, the administration of the president of the russian federation is allegedly negotiating. well, no, there are no negotiations . there is no certain contact with european leaders by european politicians regarding dividing ukraine according to the european -korean scenario and we thus create platforms for negotiations on this basis. the option of neutral status is no longer relevant. well, now the korean option has been invented. in your opinion, is this the case, or can such negotiations be held? and what russia wants to achieve in this way is probing the soil of europe
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and possibly the united states of america in order to understand whether it is possible in principle with this to do something, or is it again some kind of omissions, which, well, nothing except to create some kind of information picture and there is nothing under it, please, this is an attempt to, at least, to probe the soil, the possibility of the negotiations themselves is what is in the interests of putin to freeze the current conflict and the current war in order to retain at least part of the occupied territories because there is a risk of losing much more. and then i think there is such an interest. putin cannot win the war, but he does not want to lose it, and therefore for him even he gives birth to certain pauses because when they talk about korean scenarios, it's not
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a peace treaty, it's actually an armistice, the truth is that in korea it has been going on for quite a long time , well, count from the 53rd year. yes, already 70 years almost but for korea it was an end a big war and the emergence of a new situation of a divided korea, and putin wants to use it and melt strategically in his own interests. in addition, this is a game to split the collective event and sow the illusion that putin supposedly wants to negotiate peace, but in fact he wants to provoke western politicians among themselves to break the current single camp of support for ukraine well, and use it to agree on some kind of truce there, to use this pause to restore strength to prepare for the continuation of
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the war the war was developing and, for him, the existence of an independent and even more powerful ukraine is a threat, a threat to his power, he will fight and try to destroy ukraine so that this should be realistically evaluated. certainty that he can win this war, you know. when the war just started, many people compared this jump of putin to ukraine with the jump of that akel from the novel about mowgli by a british writer, and there was this rudyard kipling's phrase about the fact that kella missed so well here and he didn't understand why and then they just told him that you're just old and it's not your fault that you
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got wet i'm just you're old you're not plastic enough fast enough, not fast enough, you are old, you are getting old, and therefore you obviously have to go to your death. in principle, putin also missed the big blitzkrieg he was counting on. this jump, which was supposed to establish him as a leader and among his own , also failed. environment and show him in the role of a leader for the western world who can take such steps step by step he proved to be capable and at the end of this year he proved to be unable to implement this step and here i have a question for you now mr. ilya mr. volodymyr said very well that putin can't win the war , doesn't want to lose it, well, the question arises that obviously a politician of this level should adapt quickly to make other decisions, be plastic, flexible and mobile enough to develop another concept and to propose its society, i have the impression that putin has nothing to offer, the war he has plunged into is the only way out for him, and to come up with something else well, there is a korean scenario, a finnish scenario, that’s all, you know, it doesn’t work and doesn’t
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play according to your opinion or this is a question of tom's age because putin really has no other options, he can't think of any other options, he can't come up with or doesn't want to, or he doesn't care anymore, or this is already the last war, and he has come to terms with the fact that somehow, in this war, he himself will go with those hundreds thousands of which he put and which he killed, well, precisely because of what you said, uh , this is the effect. he can declare it as a victory and if there are additional captures of territory that he can record as his
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gradually suicide because well from the very beginning when uh he started this invasion of in february, when he announced the annexation of kherson and zaporizhzhia, what can he do about it if it has already been announced, he cannot simply end the war without seizing these lands, it is simply impossible, even legally -th point of view and if he is not the winner that is, it determines his defeat and if it is his defeat er, then he is no longer the leader of the er country and then his time is already counted i think it is the same that's why my it's a prediction that he won't
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see the 24th year, he remains ugu my now let's watch the video, you know, when they don't have anything to say, there's nothing to calm the russians and there's nothing to convince them, you know, with the evidence from the video with the facts, then the russians attract various such people who say that god is very put or what the fsb wrote somewhere, it's all kinds of hypnotists, fortune tellers, uh, van gavatili and other people who come on russian tv and tell russians that everything will be fine because someone appeared somewhere, someone saw something, and that's it, did someone dream something, let's go let's see how it is on the air until sometime well-known well, he is not known now, but once, in principle, it was such a rather respectable person , e.e. malakhov, who has now reduced himself to simple maintenance of the regime , a guest came to this tv presenter, who told them how things will continue in
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russia and what will happen next with the war, this is some we are listening to a russian hypnotist , a horizontal heavy to me in the upper circle and completely passed through the entire body, along all the hips , up to the height of the heels, went into the ground, and that's where this frieze passed, my body stopped , as usual, a boomerang fell against russia, maybe вернётся обработь, i'm interested, wait, that's how it should be in europe everywhere, that's it. the people will mature and warm up. you don't understand. everything will be good. and our side won't win. my forces are higher and protect russia. that's what he says about uh, february, march. i remember some russian tv expert, yes. he himself said somewhere in september or there even it was at the end of the summer he said nothing now in november and there somewhere in the sirens of november there such a thing has already been prepared there there will already be such a topic there already everything will be completely
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different but we already have january 10 i something we during november, they did not see anything, mr. volodymyr, that’s how you and i are talking right now. i’m already talking. why is this being done and here are these thrusts into the minds of the people ? let's do more, let's feed people this kind of information. let them calm down a little, please, definitely yes, this is a way of zombification, but when there are no arguments to talk about victory , then they start to refer to higher powers, or there are some people who say that. by the way, it was in hitler, on the eve of his defeat, talked about a miracle weapon that would give us victory, and now it dominates russian propaganda because there is nothing else to feed, but i will
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tell you about the boomerang. in relation to russia itself, when it went to direct war against ukraine. and now this boomerang is returning, returning to russia itself, and it may return much worse than they did here . chvk kadyrov, now they are at war against ukraine, and they will return to russia, and this war may return to russia itself, this is violence , aggression may return now, already in russia, they are afraid of these adventurous prisoners, whom the beautiful woman is sending back to russia, yes so that the boomerang can return

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