because they don't understand it themselves, but they make an accurate diagnosis only in relation to russia itself, and when ukraine went to the big hiv crisis and now this boomerang is coming back, it's coming back to russia itself and it can come back much worse. chvk kadyrov, now they are at war against ukraine, and they will return to russia , and this war may return to russia itself, this is violence, aggression may return now already in russia, they are afraid of these adventures, they will go back to russia, so that the boomerang he can come back and he is already fighting, in particular, vinny against ukraine. so, about - about this for sure,

only the boomerang does not work as this prolistation said, and it can work against the putin regime, but you know why i paid attention also, here we are talking about putin, i think right here and there it's not just about putin, unfortunately, there is a phenomenon of collective putin. and we must also remember that the problem is not only putin and the void around him. yes, unfortunately, in this void there is also the so-called collective putin, so we still have once too early to relax. here the handsome man was just showing this sledgehammer with which they killed that unfortunate soldier. i don't remember what happened to him there. well, they accused him that he allegedly wanted to come to the side of ukraine. or somehow there, well, in one word, here is this vagnesma, who they thought was a traitor they killed with this sledgehammer. by the way, yesterday i read a story about how two russians who wanted to cross over to the side of ukraine and were killed there, i understand that they were already crossing over, well, they wanted to cross over to

ukrainian positions and surrender, then they were killed in the back. they say according to the covenants grandfathers, not those actions that were in the war in the uniform of the soviet army, because these are truly heroic people who dragged out this great war with their blood on their shoulders and their moral and willful qualities and their disabilities, but i am telling you about those actions that were in the form of the nkvd. behind the hail of detachments. now this see as far as i understand, maybe even in england, all those who shoot in the back of those people who do not want to die in this war want to come to the side of ukraine well, and surrender themselves as prisoners and this and this is a normal normal story i know now that's it things once again about putin's loneliness, not only human and not only political, but also geopolitical, the ministry of defense of armenia informed the organization of the treaty on collective security of the dcb that yerevan does not consider it appropriate to conduct military exercises in the dcb in 2023, prem simply said the president of armenia is nikol pashinyan, that is, now the only country that, as i understand it, will

support putin to the last, not even the country but lukashenko, is belarus, which is ready to conduct 55 decab trainings per year. the main thing is that only i never run out well, armenia is already showing that we don't need it, i understand that the risks associated with this for armenia also don't need panels. i have questions for you. you know, i understand that this is such a boomerang of chakra and a frieze that passes through his body. it can only affect ordinary people. russians to a greater extent, but those people who have serious money in putin's circle. no matter how they earned this money, they stole it, they didn't steal, they earned kickbacks, they already had serious money and have serious money , in fact, those arrested have seized estates the remaining accounts that they are real estate in europe well, these are serious people who think with their heads and i have a question . i really don't believe

that such people who came in the difficult 90s are not some syrupy top ten. well, why are they so submissively ready to bow their heads before putin and wait for a very long time? it is not known why . please, first of all, i think that this is forza she must have already touched their music and they created a certain lobotomy or something like that eh and we are now seeing this result eh but if you are serious then eh well of course they are just intimidated because for them eh putin is and has always been a source of power and they understand that he can create a lot of bad things for them, eh, and eh, sources of danger, and the west, well, it is a source of inconvenience because of the sanctions there, because of the impossibility of going there to certain countries of the

world to rest there in cannes, there somewhere in other cities, eh, but it is not a danger to tom now there is such a general feeling that well, in fact, there is such a certain feeling of doom because no one really sees a way to victory and they understand that everything will probably be destroyed and russia is not going anywhere, but what to do if it is their west waiting for er to come under er sanctions. they don't understand how to er. they are not told what else to do, so the only thing left is to sit quietly and wait for some changes that will happen without them. i think that this is our main mistake at the moment in our attitude to russia, we often

label what the russian thinks there society and this is generally unimportant now well , it is not important at all, the attitude and the ice are important and it is very important that we reach their split and this split is possible only if we offer them a certain alternative, if not putin, then who, if putin too, etc. and uh, if they see how can they cross over to the other side and escape from under putin, i think that many people will do it, by the way , people are writing in the chat. what about you, mr. ilya? you are a cool uncle and very smart, and here is his

enemy president, well, i convey this wish . of course, this is the will of the russian people. well, i support it, so i hope that there will no longer be a president of the russian federation . well, there will be no russian federation. there will be some kind of russia, but it will not be anymore. the russian federation will not be a russian empire, in any case, i am only for the people to democratically determine the future of russia, at least make russia safe for the whole world. there is no whole world of security for russia, and a huge reserve is meant nuclear weapons, and then you can develop, live, work, and trade in natural resources and non- natural resources, including me, now we have one more video about mobilization in russia, and there, you know, he is very much trying to prove to the viewers, well, to the listeners, first of all, in russia, solovyov, the need for this mobilization what do you see, a lot of people want to go to the front, they are not allowed to go there, let's see, well, there are

always young people at war. well, here we are, now i understand the political situation, personal fear, somewhere, something, how many guys are there? сейчас продажать рочную слубы they say, well, listen well, these are ready to fight, but we are preparing for half a year, we can know, we know, our fathers , let us go there to the kemerovo region. a few days ago, a train came and there were refrigerated wagons filled with the corpses of russian soldiers. and i think that knowing this i understand that this situation. especially after learning about the make-up story about the explosions in zaporizhzhia in the kherson region. there, in several villages , hundreds of russian soldiers were also destroyed in the barracks. it is somehow very difficult for me to believe that the military officers are especially saying how much you can let us go there. we also want it in packages on a christmas tree. and this is ours there , volodymyr. as you know, it’s just interesting here

how much more they are ready to abandon mobilization on this and when will the stopcock of russian society work if this stop-cock exists and the understanding of how i recently listened to a russian man who talked on the air, also in one of the bloggers, and said that if he attacked russia, he would go to fight like his grandfathers , and of course he is for putin somewhere, but he does not want to fight does not want because no one in russia attacked him here, this realization has already come to him, this stophan generally exists in russian society in relation to the organization and these inglorious, inglorious, and sometimes gratuitous deaths, well, theoretically, he must not be endlessly patient, but some people in russia say yes, well, the people, well, before the party, now putin is the only one as nothing always and never happens, that's why in this case, i think that for putin there is already a dilemma, and it's the first time in the

autumn in october. so when the first wave of mass mobilization was already underway, it was eh and what will happen next mobilization will increase and i think that new waves of mobilization are inevitable, well, this is predicted, and well, the other is logical, otherwise he will lose the war in ukraine, therefore, the mobilization will continue, but the more we are on the scale of the mobilization, the more the tension in russia will grow, another thing is that they do not work, this stop works - the faucet or when it will explode, well, as i once wrote in the russian classic, it is a senseless , merciless russian riot, it can explode, but it is impossible to predict it exactly, i agree with what plovya said. now the main thing is the point of tension for putin is the situation in the

elites, the elites are more realistic that russia will lose this war, they see problems with putin because the fact that he does not communicate is blocked, well, some people are already mocking, so ironic that putin has a hobby of fear of presence er, in the presence of a large er number of people well, there are definitely problems, physical or mental problems, it is very obvious that he is afraid of his surroundings and sets up and constantly changes this system of restraining counterweights, who raised the beauty and now he is returning this general a-a the lapin brought by the skadirs to you was allegedly dismissed. and for prigozhin, even though the resignation of the russian governor, but putin does not fire him , and eh, then he sets medvedev up to something, even the whole of

russia laughs at him. a new position, but that's because putin doesn't trust anyone, and the tension has existed for years, and they feel that putin really isn't the one at the moment, that the situation needs to be changed somehow, they really don't know how to change it. but i think that in the russian elites situations can develop faster, more controversial, definitely, but this can become a trigger, a trigger, in particular, for changes in society itself, so that putin's risks come both from below in connection with the continuation of mobilization and from above, e.e. for the elites, who already feel that the situation is developing in a bad direction and something needs to be changed, if not putin himself, then the situation around putin, so you know the risks.

it seems to me that this is my personal opinion that putin , in principle, the problem of his rule is that he has not become something like that, but unique in many ways he repeated hitler in many ways, well at least in his war against ukraine and in his actions with the invasion and everything else. he in many ways repeated stalin in russian politics, but stalin was much grander, smarter, more predatory than putin , well, at least in the last few wars he was a robber, a bandit, he led the regiments to the war, the capture of the tsarina, by the way, he also stood near lviv here with us when we went to warsaw in the 20th year, and then he always repeats someone, but he is such a war that he offered his own. well, to be honest, he didn’t not i especially see, you know, the expectations for this year from the war may be different and everything can be resolved and will be resolved on the battlefields, but there are moments that just happen and simply because the time has come, i will very briefly take two sentences and read them from my very favorite novel gabriel gassia

márquez, the patriarch's autumn began there with such beautiful words. towards the end of the week, vultures flew to the balconies of the presidential palace with blows of their beaks, tore the wire nets on the windows and fluttered their wings. stagnated inside the house, and on monday dawn the city, which had already been burned for hundreds of years, woke up from a lethargic sleep. from the warm , weak, yet still harbinger of rotting majesty from the smell of the great march. some even more daring tried to tear down the main gate with painful teams, as others proposed, because it was enough to push the armored bushings, so that the heroic days for this house, the parts succumbed to the cannons, how they dissolved for one moment, the greatness of this the patriarch that marques writes about fell and the people went there where before. they had to storm and beat and the same. by the way, it can end, of course, not without the help of the armed forces

of ukraine. that at one moment this age of lethargic sleep and fear may end and this palace will fall under the feet of such people. by the way, mr. ilya, like you and many other russians. when so it will happen maybe it won't happen but can it be like that what exactly it will happen a few minutes then i will tell you mr. ilya and you mr. volodymyr literally for one and a half minutes, please, the main thing is not to leave the situation for the same escape that everything will happen there exactly in the direction that because we believed that if this palace is vacated by mr. putin due to one or other events, the people who will enter there may not like us at all and therefore we need to manage this situation ourselves

the military victory of the u.s. armed forces should be transformed into the establishment of control over the new russian government, it must be rebuilt and the attitude that exists among many ukrainians is that let them be there themselves later no, this will be a huge danger for ukraine, you must take the initiative in your own hands volodymyr, please, literally another minute and a half in the political sense, again , remembering the russian classic, putin is already a living corpse so far in the political sense, but i absolutely agree with what mr. ilya said. one should not rely on the automatic development of events, now it is necessary to develop a strategy for both the west and ukraine in russian what to do with russia for vc post putin's development eh and what to do with russia even if ukraine comes out

well, the most optimal winning scenario comes out in a shorter year in the village the problem of russia will remain, and therefore now i think it is a very relevant question. this is the development of a strategy in relation to the post-war development of russia. well, actually, we have almost run out of time , i will not ask questions because there is no time to answer them i thank you very much ilya ponomarev, a member of the state duma of russia in this 16th year, russian opposition panel i thank you and thank you very much volodymyr fesenko, a political scientist who joined us and er for your apt comments, we say goodbye to our guests, we have literally one and a half minutes remain. by the way, i generally advise you to read literature and marquez, although, again, marquez is such a controversial figure, on the one hand, of course, the chernobyl lavryad is a person who, they say, created magical realism in literature in fact, magical realism in literature was also created by mykola gogol. well, in any case , he

enchanted the whole world with his works the autumn of the patriarch and forties of solitude and the colonel is the most beautiful in the world drowned love during cholera and many other works by the magic of colombian literature in spanish well, there is no colombian literature and it was published in argentina, but uh, this person who very actively supported, let's say, fidel pans in general, his communist ideas, i don't know for what reasons or maybe there were some financial issues political, but he also had this in his life . therefore, read the literature. there is a lot of it, you know what happened, and we can understand what is and better understand ourselves. e diaries of a woman who experienced the russian soviet invasion in berlin at the end of the 1945 war , a very interesting, very interesting experience , and re-reading many other teams. thank you for being with us, subscribe to our channels in telegram, facebook, youtube , like, share, subscribe to my the vasyl zima page on facebook, write your

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but that did not reduce the excitement. explosions every minute . the gostomel airfield is on fire , russian fighter jets, i have a cold basement in my window, then i left irpen under shelling for a month after being abandoned by my relatives, and in the end i ended up in lviv, returned to the airwaves and started volunteering together with my colleagues, help for our military, it is now an integral part of life, we collect drones and thermal imagers , we weave nets, and on the weekend we are going to prepare a welcome drink for our defenders at the front, we all cut fruit together, we pick berries, we whip everything and pack it, it is always very gratifying to think that in a few days this tea will warm the ukrainian soldiers, everyone of you can help even a small contribution to the support of the army saves the lives of our soldiers and brings our victory closer,

see this week in the collaborators program the list of miklushka who passed mariupol and how to grow celebrated on may 9 on the bones of the killed people immortal floor in which position the traitors exchanged the motherland i appeal to the whole of ukraine, order the swan song of the bandura collaborator for what the mayor of sviatohirsk received suspicion every war gives birth to heroes unfortunately for the helpless, the special project of the espresso tv channel, the collaborators , the list of miklushka i am talking about the most despicable people, about those who not only betrayed their state and people, but also served as an occupier. in this issue, collaborators from the donetsk region are anti-leaders deputies of traitors in donetsk region, there is the

mariupol city council, a city that gave us heroes from azov, a city that was repulsed by ukrainian defenders with great blood in 2014, a city in which the state and private business have invested billions of hryvnias over the past 8 years, and a completely destroyed city for the residents of which the rioters arranged filtering camps are simply swarming with collaborators, nine deputies of the city council from the opsz swore allegiance to the russian fascist regime aghibov valeriy local businessman co-owner of the company tavriya what does turiv do food products in mobility and vehicle repair serhiy burlakov, an eternal servant of darkness and all evil, first he was elected to the district council from the party of regions, then he failed in the elections under the party's banner, our region is now a businessman with a mandate from the regional office, engaged in the construction business , vehicle repair, he helps the rashtists to secure olena from mariupol professional unemployment, don't let

the cute facial features of this deputy mislead you, after a full-scale invasion , this representative handed over to the occupying administration, personal affairs of employees of cultural institutions of mariupol, where is it about addresses , passport numbers, work books and mobile phone numbers, the mariupol city hall accused a deputy of treason. this is what was reported about karpenko in the security service of ukraine . the place of separatist and pro-russian mass events. in this photo natalya sotnikova is also unemployed and a collaborator about her and a few more rigs with the legitimate city council of mariupol wrote the following : they did not just support the occupiers, but acted as informants for the enemy army and

actually corrected the shelling of critical civilian infrastructure from the first days of the war. the occupiers destroyed the city's life support facilities, communal enterprises and equipment, warehouses with food and medicine with targeted fire. it turned out that the traitors were the deputies from upszh helped the russians to quickly paralyze the city and create a humanitarian catastrophe in front of the traitors of mariupol and yevhen kharmyshev who earned for himself from the rashists the position of secretary of the occupation council, and dmytro khadzhinov was named by the occupiers the deputy head of mariupol for housing and communal services issues. the deputy of the self-proclaimed mayor of the city, as befits such accomplices, sincerely

welcomed the may 9 march on the streets of devastated mariupol, where the bodies of innocently killed ukrainians lay yesterday - this the events of the immortal floor are massive. i consider the most important and patriotic events that should take place this year on may 9, of course. and what else could the residents of the occupied, destroyed city without electricity, water and gas, without medical supplies and other essential items, wait until nine? on may 1st , all problems are solved and the cities are rebuilt and brought back to life by thousands of those who lie in mass graves, and vadim istratov, the owner and director of the alligator enterprise, became another deputy pseudo-mayor. was entrusted with managing the financial affairs of mariupol and the main figure, a collaborator from the opsz in mariupol kostyantyn and vashchenko, his invaders appointed him the head of the city, he has been in politics for a long time, back in 2010, he came to the

city council as a deputy from the party of regions, in the 15th he tried to get into the council for the second time, but already from party, our region, however, did not gather votes, regained the mandate in 2020 already from the people's republic of ukraine, and as soon as russian troops occupied mariupol and vashchenko went to work closely with them, i appeal to the national system in every part of ukraine, in particular this faster and also kostiantyn and vashchenko talk a lot about how russians are soldiers and the terrorist dpr is the butler of the mariupol people, that is, first they invaded with their troops, they destroyed the city, created a humanitarian crisis, and then they gave out loaves of ukrainian bread and made several interesting videos for the propagandist moscow television , it’s just interesting when we win back the whole donbas, together with mariupol, muscovy,

will take in these traitors from the armed forces and will issue the same positions somewhere in the swamps or simply throw them out as used junk to this list one more ex-deputy of the mariupol city council should be added to the list of collaborators, but this time the servant of the people is talking about serhiy kosenko, he was entrusted with the position of head of the legal service in one of the occupation district administrations for treason , and the deputy of the liman city council, oleksandr tokarchyk, is also an ex- regional member of the lyman city council. later, a member of the opposition bloc, during the issuance of so-called humanitarian aid, the russo- fascists appointed him mayor of the estuary, because the traitor has management experience as the director of the local water supply company. and finally, volodymyr bandura is the head of the infamous sviatohirsk of the donetsk region, infamous because sviatohirsk and its monastery were for decades a spiritual outpost of the russian world in donbas,

sviatohirska bandura became a burgo-city thanks to the support of natalya royal yuriy boyk and other people. may have become a collaborator in the end, the man ran his facebook page in ukrainian until june 1, called the rashists occupiers, it would seem that he is about the ukrainian position, but the network is full of him video appeals in the style of russian propagandists, where he accuses the armed forces of ukraine of unprecedented stories, nazis kill the sanctity of priests and hoard it, the following are facts: all organs of the armed forces of ukraine engaged in looting, looting, svyatohorsk, under the leadership of bandura, came under the control of racist troops on june 7, after which the leader of the occupation administration of donetsk region , denys pushylin, published in his telegram,

a joint photo with volodymyr bandura against the background of the tricolor looks like this is the swan song of bandura's collaborator, the state bureau of investigation opened against the mayor of sviatohorsk criminal proceedings under the article of high treason this was the list of miklushka next wednesday i will tell you about another dozen traitors and if there are collaborators in your city write to me on facebook or to this e- mail we will make these scoundrels famous we will meet together in exactly a week music education free people have a choice choose what you want on megogo so that ukrainians don't think

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