service, but no, i don’t think that it will take a long time, what is directly highlighted is what has already been announced, that they have been highlighted, it is quite quick to convey , for the most part, they are a question logistically, this is a question even up to weeks, this happiness can be a question, so here you are literally 20 seconds, it turns out that we have to hold on, this is my happiness during this period, and actually, well, at three, the main task. i understand hold on soledar. hold on a little bit we heard it in february in march in april in may well we need to hold on it's a fact and as for supplies i want to pay attention so that we don't lose sight of the situation that's happening now will happen soon there will be a flurry of wallets in davos and after that

rammstein i.e. what we managed did not happen , which will harm us in the future on rammstein. this is the main task of our diplomacy, and i think that in this context we need to work more actively, so let's see, let's hope that the opposite will happen . and the slush managed to help us, it was ihor lapiny, viktor tregubov, and i pass the word on, the next one will be serhiy rudenko, his program is the verdict. congratulations serhiy and olga. thank you for your word. literally in a few seconds, we will start the verdict program. glory to ukraine. day and good health, today , january 11, is the 322nd day of the heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian invaders.

leopard-2 tanks and other necessary weapons to ukraine, the final decision will be made at the regular meeting of the rammstein group on january 10. russia has struck 33 strikes on the border of the sumy oblast, and russia continues to strike the territory of the ukrainian state. meanwhile, the russian army continues to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine as of the morning of january 11, russia has already lost 112,960 people in ukraine in the last day alone, the armed forces of ukraine destroyed 490 orks at the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost 394 tanks in ukraine 6159 armored combat vehicles 2078 artillery systems 437 rocket launchers 217 air defense means 285 aircraft 275 helicopters 4826 units of

motor vehicles 17 boats boats 323 cruise missiles 1862 drones 184 units of special equipment therefore according to the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense russia is closing its borders in order to conduct the large-scale mobilization of putin's godfather in ukraine was stripped of ukrainian citizenship viktor medvedchuk is no longer a citizen of ukraine well, the kremlin is lying about soledar - these are the main the topics of today's program for an hour, we will talk about this very thing, i want to introduce our first guest - this is major general of the sbu in the reserve viktor yagun p generals good day good health to you and thank you for joining our program yes good health so yesterday 10 on january 1, the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi , was deprived of the citizenship of ukraine by state traitors

viktor medvedchuk, taras cossack andriy derkach and rynata kuzmin . by the state migration service of ukraine and in accordance with the constitution of our country, i made a decision to terminate the citizenship of four persons: derkach andrii leonidovich cossack taras romanovych kuzmin rinat ravliiovych and medvedchuk viktor volodymyrovych if elected officials choose to serve not the people of ukraine but the murderers who came to ukraine, then our actions will be appropriate and these are not the last such decisions of the service, the speaker of the parliament ruslan stefanchuk said that the verkhovna rada will soon deprive viktor of the mandates of people's deputies medvedchuk taras kozak andrii derkach and renata kuzmin so generala, the first

four from the opposition platform are deprived of ukrainian citizenship for life. here a completely logical question arises, does this mean that now medvedchuk kozak derkach and kuzmin will not be responsible for treason, because how can a citizen be responsible for treason before the state what you are no longer well, in fact, this is such a legal case. when they committed a crime, they were citizens of ukraine, that is, legal practice, there is no feedback, it's one moment and another. well you can reclassify it, you know, if it is not treason, then you can switch it as a combination in favor of the enemy. that is, there are a lot of nuances, so i think that they will be punished

by a court - a court punishment is definitely unavoidable . another problem is that they will be outside ukraine as not ukrainian citizens and ukraine even in the status when they are convicted, it will not be possible to demand their extradition because they are not citizens of ukraine and unless they simply committed crimes on the territory of ukraine on it will have to be seen whether another country will try to come to it. i'm not talking about russia. russia is clear. at this stage, it's such a dark dark history and a closed territory. well, for example, if you ever go on vacation, they'll try somewhere in dubai or something like that somewhere. that's why according to you, the story with the same medvedchuk dragged on for so long and proving the facts of their cooperation with the russians, because they didn't even

hide the fact that they fly to moscow and communicate there with representatives of the russian authorities, which at that time had already carried out aggression regarding the ukrainian state. why did they get to medvedchuk and derkach so late? well, we are the same rhetorical question. why did they just take over the moscow patriarchate? political will everything depends on political will. the time has come. there are documentary proofs. it has been a long time since the political will worked and onward to another. there is no explanation more than 20 years ago on the audio recordings made by major melnychenko or whoever made them in the office of the president of ukraine leonid kuchma derkach sr. who then headed the security service of ukraine reported to leonid

danylovych and said that we have data that medvedchuk was once an agent or remains an agent of the kgb under the agent name sokolovsky . what do you think, mr. general? since his student years, when he had problems with the law, among other things, when they beat another student there during the dnd, and medvedchuk had certain problems with his studies at the law faculty. listen, well, this is not even discussed, i have personal friends, that's all do you know the heroes of ukraine, myroslav simchych, his son ihor, in order to enter the university , had to hide his origin and go to school, you know, far outside of ukraine, and in the fourth year they calculated and tried to calculate his stay and tried to calculate from the university

, the daughter of mykhailo gorenya was forced to wait until 1986, when she was allowed to enter the university, and here is a person who was born in whose father was exiled as a member of the oun as a guide to the german occupiers in the north, he was born there, uh, already in the north, and here he is entering the best university in the best, the best university of ukraine, in the best specialty, something is being sold at shevchenko university, well, listen to such coincidences, it simply cannot be unambiguous, he was managed by the uh, state security committee from those times and the fact that he took part in the harassment of our dissidents, and not only stus, but also others, this is another confirmation that everything he did he did according to the instructions of the kdb, or rather, he was the lawyer of vasyl stus from

whose state was appointed by the kdb in the trial against vasyl stus. well, one more thing, about one figure on this short list of yesterday's e.e. volodymyr zelenskyi andriy derkach, we know that the sbu accused andriy derkach of being in charge of an agent network in ukraine of the main directorate of the general staff of russia, which was supposed to seize power in ukraine, we know that tkach is the son of the head of the security service of ukraine and that he graduated from the academy of the fsb of russia in 1993, i specifically looked at his diploma work the name of his diploma work was the name of the organization and holding of a meeting with a secret agency, well, that is, he had a diploma in the agency, he

represented the agency in the main directorate of the general staff of the russian federation and in ukraine. please tell people like derkach, considering his education, of course, considering his connections , were there any interests of the ukrainian special services before, was he such a skinhead who walked with a parachute behind his back around pechersk and everyone just watched well, derkach is gone. it's a skin. listen to it . let's do it. the fact that he studied at the university and graduated in 1993 doesn't mean anything at all. i can name a lot of names of members of the verkhovna rada, former members of the verkhovna rada who graduated from military universities, universities of special services, well , already for modern russia, and not just patriots, they

showed their lives, their position in life, that they are patriots of ukraine, that's why it's a different situation here, which he was from the very beginning somewhere , you know, once upon a time to some point a tree can grow normally and then go somewhere to kosovo so surely with this person if he grew up from the very beginning in a family where the russian world and everything related to the soviet union was valued much more than ukraine and everything and everything that ukraine it is clear that others could not be, and that is why when they were given, when there was information, it was necessary to follow that information. another matter is being discussed when he actively started working on the field of opposition to ukraine and trying to destroy it as a state is a completely

different issue. i have repeatedly heard from people who communicated with him directly and tried to, hmm, still raise the issue that some of the activities of this persons simply goes against the interests of the state and they said that we were inspired by certain moments to hit a thick wall, not a misunderstanding, it was about the same, and i emphasize once again that it was about the same wall as the information about against about all-ukrainian activities of the moscow patriarchate, where there was political will, everyone knew about this so-called three-color parachute, but no one dared to put everything in its place. thank god that we lived to the time when it was has become the norm and i hope that we will clear ukraine

of those well, i'm not saying canned goods because the vast majority of canned goods have already exploded . and the fact that the cooler ones are hidden somewhere and we will be digging them out for many more years is clear, but i hope that we will we will get to that level. when they will definitely not be able to influence our fate, among those who influence our fate are the former members of the national assembly. although i believe that there are no former members of the national assembly in the parliament, they were and remain associates of viktor medvedchuk, who is accused of treason, but they at the moment they are sitting in the verkhovna rada of ukraine, they renamed the faction eh to another name eh they dissolved the opposition party and became renewed deputies, but these people continue to vote for laws for the rules by which we live in the country, well, in fact, they were elected

from the pro-russian forces and remain in the verkhovna rada of ukraine. what do you think or who should put an end to this story with the opzzhists because it is clear that when lawyers refer to the effect of the constitution on the norms of the constitution, it is in- it seems to be right on the one hand and on the other hand it looks wrong that during the war it is legal for this society for ukraine those who are open collaborators continue to write i i completely agree unfortunately no one really predicted that we are active in recent wars and some of the norms of legislation well, they simply do not provide for martial law and in those moments that must be adopted already now and very quickly and once again i want to emphasize the same parallel with the

moscow church when the question now arises that during the military we don't have the right to sever relations in some arenas, or let's see, or let 's do it according to the law. let's pass some law, you know. well, what about those deputies in the past who supposedly were against ukraine and now they are all so redrawn that regarding these popes it is necessary to make an immediate decision, and uh, it's online uh, non-stop, you know, today they made a decision, tomorrow they voted, the day after tomorrow they closed this topic well, because it ca n't be during the war the fifth column in and in the verkhovna rada and, roughly speaking, in the minds of our people, so i hope that, after all, we will come to the moment when decisions will be made very quickly and effectively

, whether they are suitable or not according to the legislation, listen we live in the real world times during the war, we will then figure out when we will win and what according to you, mr. general, should be the status of the russian orthodox church in ukraine and, in general, should this church be er in ukraine, taking into account the fact that er sbu is quite seriously now engaged in er- by those who serve in this church well, of course, you are right about the fact that this church was and remains a church that influences minds, we see that this church did not stand on the side of the ukrainian people in this difficult time although probably the main task the church at this moment to give shelter to ukrainian er ukrainians to ukrainian defenders and support them or should there be a

church? well, i don't know, maybe there are some marginal ones in the form of a marginal sect, because people still go to the moscow church despite everything, during the war, despite who say that they are open collaborators and traitors. i think that a law should be passed to prohibit the activities of this structure and the russian orthodox church implanted in the body of the russian orthodox church on the territory of ukraine. they are trying to protect people's minds there in terms of religion, but the fact that their leadership and their activities, including commercial ones, by the way, what are they all standing for ? the structure in ukraine for the

existence of rules does not exist, they outlawed themselves, everything was clear when at one time poland separated from the russian empire and created an independent state very quickly, literally in the course of several years, a decision was made and part of the orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate that was on the territory of poland turned out to be a polish church and no one has any claims now and no one is looking for russian churches on the territory of poland, although a significant number of the population that was then orthodox there were ukrainians and belarusians and for some reason the moscow patriarch did not expresses some kind of claims. i think that this topic should be closed and go in the way of, for example, the same latvia that banned the existence of this church at the legislative level is a notary on its territory and asked for clarification on how to go to istanbul to

phanar to bartholomew. i think that this decision will be taken. e cells, what can you do, we have always had marginals who try to hide somewhere in the pop-pills, but it is definitely not necessary to make martyrs out of them, everything must be done very clearly according to the legislation and it can be done and done very quickly. why drag this decision, i don’t understand especially this can be adopted in the verkhovna rada especially since the draft law has long been prepared and supported by the committee, meanwhile metropolitan pavlo of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, who is the abbot of the kyiv-pechers lavra and who is better known as pasha mercedes, said that the authorities gave

part of the kyiv-pechers lavra to a schismatic as he said and the holiday itself, however, he is not yet ready to give his parishioners the go-ahead to fight against the state, he means paul says that the exploits of the faithful of the moscow patriarchate are yet to come, we will see paul given to a schismatic to self-consecrate a preschooler, philaret to self-consecrate an epiphany for theology, they have already announced to everyone that they will bring people from all over our country, this is one more time and they will pay. as i was told from rovno, from other cities, there will be some amount for the fact that we would attend the service there were 10,000

of them, but they have machine guns, they have pistols, they armed themselves against their people, i am not so stupid that i will bless you to death , not even time. it's not time, pasha mercedes said, and this is also, in principle, a very big signal for the ukrainian authorities, mr. general, and because, in principle, it is not known at what moment the er-e rpc yake yaka is currently there in the kyiv-pechersk lavra, in the pochaiv lavra, among other largest ukrainian lavras states, how can they work on the fsb and the russian federation, according to you, is there such a possibility that the parishioners of the moscow patriarchate, who are now hiding

under the name of the ukrainian orthodox church , can be used for internal for some specific motives or for some internal riots, specifically the federal security service on the territory of ukraine, this is definitely a possibility , and experts and representatives of the special services say that the danger of riots using the church line is very, very high i was surprised when they did not treat the so-called march harshly, when they tried to march 5,000 people from the khmelnytskyi region to pochaiv, i still raised this issue and said why why this column should not be missed through some roadblock with the verification of documents,

in particular those young people who are there in this column , what are they doing? why are they not on the register of the military commissariat, where are their documents or at all? they have ukrainian citizenship and so on . there would be much less people who want to go with the hurugas and the non-existent church in ukraine, and there are all those fairy tales about how many of us can gather. this is also a huge, huge fairy tale. this church without the support of the government simply cannot exist. the basis is that the government supported them at all levels , including the local ones, which allowed them to do things that were simply incompatible in other churches, well, look what was happening in in the regions of eastern ukraine, i don't know where, of

course, the priest of the ukrainian church could stand in line with his hands, asking to get permission for the land and for the church for the building of the church. and their kiosks appeared in the most interesting areas of kyiv without any explanation and without any permissions you understand this has always been the case, and when this church will finally be separated from the authorities, when every person who is related to the law enforcement agencies, to the special services, to the authorities, who is sympathetic to them, will be thoroughly checked for the subject, and what are you doing there? and already you such a believer and really support this church. i think that this situation will change very quickly, and let's remember who actually owned the pochaiv church, the pochaiv lavra, until the time when the moscow church came there, it

was not orthodox at all, and you understand that let's raise the historical truths and give these churches to those to whom they actually belong by historical right, general . please tell me, did you talk about the fact that the russian orthodox church in ukraine is still a big business, meaning all the churches that are in the laurels and it is still sold there, it is not long enough and it is quite basic, this is the language of the stay of this church in ukraine for 30 years. er, representatives of the government were also interested, well, under yanukovych - it is clear that he tried to cover up his sins there and quite often went to the kyiv-pechersk

lavra, which kept the moscow church all these three decades, which we lived differently from by the russian federation outside the borders of the soviet union prestige prestige and business prestige because in this way they tried to show that the mill is close to power and you are close to the church that is in power and business because what we saw on the surface this is just such a small tip of the asbur, you understand. according to approximate calculations, in their best times, they transferred up to 11 billion euros to moscow, 11 billion euros from ukraine per year, and the word to moscow from our church, well, from our people, eh, and this well, not only people's donations. well , that business was very serious , including the transit of cigarette smuggling, the alcohol business

, and other aspects of covering up the church in some of the factories in the territory, illegal migration, and a lot more moments related to, including the use of church buildings in completely different and not church e-e affairs. that is, this is a huge, huge business. if we undermine this business structure, it will be a huge blow, including to the russian orthodox church in moscow, because they, the basis of this church was still ukrainian without the ukrainian church, even if there was no russian empire from ukraine, and without the ukrainian church at its core, the russian orthodox church could not exist in their parishes two times less than in all parishes in in ukraine, against the background of what is happening now in

ukraine, the security service of ukraine is conducting counterintelligence measures in the government quarter of kyiv, let's see how it is happening and what the representatives of the security service of ukraine explain about these measures . within the boundaries of the government quarter and in the adjacent territories, activities take place in cooperation with the security service of ukraine, the state security department of ukraine, the national police and the military service of law and order in the armed forces of ukraine. the goal is to check the strengthening of counter-subversive protection of important state objects, as well as to increase the security of persons who are protected by the state. this is especially important in the context of the armed aggression of the russian federation, which is trying to destabilize the situation in ukraine by any means, mr. generals, with

the beginning of a major of the war, starting from february 24, we witnessed how numerous drgs were in kyiv at a certain time. obviously, they arrived earlier, how they tried to work , in particular, in the capital. counter-measures the counter-subversive measures currently being carried out by the sbu, according to your opinion, are they related to the fact that russia is still trying to activate saboteurs, whom the sbu may not see now. maybe they are sitting here and continue to sit and have not shown themselves since since february 24, how freely does the fsb now feel on the territory of the ukrainian state, well, the fsb actually feels quite strong reinforcements in the west of ukraine as well