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they look at us, that is, it is historically also a great shrine, which is related to it, it existed for a longer time and was developed exactly as a greek-catholic one, and which was taken away, given the spelling in the 39th year, or the 45th year sooner, and it was handed over to the of the patriarchate and now there is just some kind of stronghold, a stronghold of muscophile sentiments in the middle, well, right in the middle of the edge of galicia, well, that is, it looks amazing , and how much svyatoslav, by the way, the blessed one said about the fact that greek catholics have their own interest, or shall we say, their desire to return to the shrine will they share here from the orthodox church of ukraine, will there not be any disputes between us again? we know that in our history it was often the case that we could not share something among ourselves. yes, this is a very difficult question, in fact it is possible at first and somewhat e- historically speaking, the pochaiv lavra became a part of the russian church a little earlier than the second world war, from the 19th
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century, that is, the russian empire, that is, in fact, there were several liquidations of the greek catholic church in the 19th century. it was 1839, then the 75th year of kholmsk diocese which is now in most of the territory of poland, and already the galician metropolis was liquidated after the second world war . when the soviet authorities came here, but the russian church, in fact, from the 19th century, built pochaiv as such an outpost of the russian world, on the border, then still part of the austrian empire what was galicia actually like? and why is this a difficult question today, because even if you take the entire architectural ensemble there, there are several buildings that different churches can claim, the main one is the dormition cathedral it was really built by the greek catholic church, the basilians, and from the side there is the trinity cathedral, which was built by the russian orthodox metropolitan antony khrapovitskyi, who actually created the repose center of the black hundred. that is, it was absolutely
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like this, you know, for the state, the orthodox people, this church was built by khrypovetsi, and there is a modern church built now moscow tried to make seven monasteries and then such an outpost on the western ukrainian lands, actually in this russian world. there is a big question about that who are the inhabitants of this monastery, because according to some data, at a certain moment, monks were brought from moldova, that is, what kind of moldavian orthodoxy is it, it is quite such a sleepy mixture. it is the state e-e of russian orthodoxy, and it is clear that a certain atmosphere has formed there, which cannot be dissolved so easily with some kind of cavalry charge, that is, e-e. but i still think that there will be certain changes, yes, although this evolutionary process will surely take some time, eh, i think it would be interesting if, let's say, it was some kind of com center, so where
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greek catholics and the orthodox church of ukraine could be present at the same time, and it could be certain a laboratory of some sort of coexistence peaceful tolerant yes in this shrine is an all-ukrainian shrine here uh and but i think that it is really worth being careful here and i think that the ukrainian greek-catholic church does not care what will happen to this monastery because the pochaiv lavra actually has a very the glorious history of such enlightenment was this pochaiv printing house, it was simply one of such great cultural figures, it printed a lot of books, a famous preacher of god. yes , this is a very unique monument of our and poetic-poetic musical culture, yes, and you all know it somehow now with such a pretense the ashes of the russian world, which should be unfolded and looked at in history and revived. all these things are so. well, i want to say that you were at the
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service that we talked about on christmas eve, where he was present and the actual epiphany and everyone paid attention to the eyes of his shaty, and i thought that it is possible, you know, the search for such a new identity for the revived or new, you can already say after the tomos of the new ukrainian orthodox church of the new tradition, which somewhere pays homage to the past, somewhere is looking for itself - and how much must be cleaned from the ashes, as you say, it can be burned somewhere in the moscow orthodox church. well, i don’t know. we , for example, are very confused. there are, for example, in western ukraine, they penetrate into western ukraine, they still migrate to these e-e shrines of the moscow patriarchate in the greek-catholic shrine, and people sometimes do not feel it,
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they just see that there is gilding, they say well, finally, our church looks rich and these were do not have a completely different form, and they do not understand that there is something behind this form and the content is certain. well, even if you take the kiev-pechersk lavra in particular, it is actually very different from the first former appearance. but i understand that this once upon a time, there was a byzantine building of the pla-e style, such as have been preserved in romania, for example, a lot, but at the same time, cossack baroque was added to everything there, and we have nothing against it, but for this, for example, the same bell tower that is prominent there is sofia there for example, kyivska in our country was rebuilt in that suzdol style, in some tatar-mongolian style, and there is a lot of the same layering, should we fight it or should we accept it? i think that we should fight it. do not accept it. because the russian orthodox church acted very aggressively in this regard and further actions
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, that is, let's say, if we go to volyn, well, the example is simple. i just have a wife from those areas, and then, and look at the history of how it all turned out. well, in the 19th and 18th centuries - this is the time when the specific architecture of these areas was actually destroyed and such a standard , synodal style of church construction was planted. if you go to transcarpathia, you will see these bulbs everywhere they are built with such an attempt on the fact that it does not always have to dominate the landscape, that is, in order to understand who is the master here, and i generally. it was much more powerful, that's all. this can all be explained historically, but does it mean that we have to put up with it? i think not, eh. i like how aesthetically they change, let's say the orthodox church of ukraine, which, well, has a lot of layers of these, after all. russian
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many of their bishops graduated from russian schools of study in their theological institutions , in principle, until recently, this is 100% hair actually according to such russian standards of theological education with russian textbooks, there is a language barrier here, you know. not everyone will read greek or romanian, ukrainian literature will not yet exist that is, but they are moving away from this a little at a time, perhaps already at such an aesthetic level, we can see these changes. i think that they will continue in other areas as well, so not only in this uh, how to deal with it. i think that here churches should involve professional architects and professional art historians in order to really find our roots and embody them in architecture or in the fine arts, and this is a process that is actually not for a year, but for decades, you know , this is impossible to do very quickly, but i am convinced that it is necessary for the greek catholic church to do its part regarding these influences here, of course, that is, the church should
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involve more people who have professional education in this matter and you also know. well, people may like gilding, but this means that this good aesthetic taste must be cultivated, it just doesn't appear like that. that's 100%. we, the audience, should explain to our audience that the light has gone out here. it’s just that we, like the whole of ukraine, have lost electricity. well, the graph is from, but the generators started working, so i’m sorry to see a little black picture. well, that’s our reality, actually, very briefly, if i ask you. op anatoliy, what do you say? should involve priests or the priests themselves in some communities somewhere in villages or towns or should it be somehow centralized, that is, there should be some the greek-catholic church looks like this. this is how the orthodox church - this is ukraine looks like . by the way, we are also
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something, this word is connoisseurs, uh, or culture experts , there are also different levels. and how many mayors have made a career to gild the pen of deputies. i think that work is necessary here on two levels, first of all, it is necessary to conduct to work with communities, because very often the people themselves vote on what we want it to look like, you know, so that it would be like the virgin mary in las vegas, as we sometimes call it when it blinks and shines. they like it, but it is necessary to explain to them that it is absolutely not aesthetic, and also to show some other examples, and hierarchies should work here, but i think that a certain tone is set by hierarchies, that is, many people who see cool, good examples on the same television so nice robes are nice, some examples of icons yes , that is, they will be equal to the best. so , that is, we need to get rid of kitsch at all levels, you know. i think here, hierarchy plays a
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big role, and here, uh, in order to demonstrate it , but also educational work, that is, actually about that that the church is still not only a building, of course it is the people who are in this church and accordingly, it should correspond to ours, which we are, and the church is, it is impossible not to agree with this. was with us at the end of our segment of the telethon on espresso andriy saichuk lesya kurluyuk were with you today, well, now you will be olga laziness chronicle information war what is going on in russia, what are they talking about olya , a word for you, now, in a moment, i will tell you exactly this one thank you and we are listening. congratulations, interesting processes took place in the attack of the russian federation on the night of wednesday, the founder of the communist party of the soviet union wagner yevgeny prigozhin said that his units were taken as if
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soledar under complete control, well, a video appeared where prigozhin walks through the dungeons, he will tell that these are salt mines in soledar from above, ukrainian troops are here and that's all, prigozhin also stated that no other russian troops, except for the wagner air force, are fighting in the center of the city of soledar. and on wednesday morning, the spokesman of the ministry of defense of the russian federation, konashenko, contradicted himself by saying that the units of the airborne forces yy were blocked by soldiers from the northern and southern parts of the city and stormtroopers are fighting in the city , that is, there is no control, but there is, because there is in the city, and there are not only prigozhina fighters fighting there, but it’s like they were expelled and that ’s it, the press secretary of the president of the russian federation, dmytro puskov, about the capture of soledar, he also said yes, without too much extravagance, let's say we will not rush, we will wait for official statements, there is a positive dynamic in the promotion, well, that's all. and so in the studios of russian tv channels on wednesday morning, they also said something about our soledar, but then also
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don't be in a hurry to support prigozhin's statements. look at the time. i wouldn't start saying that we all owned a solidar. i think it's not a question of four hours. it's good to continue, uh, solidar, it's good. well, he's not quite, uh, fully occupied . there are still salt mines in large quantities, terrible depth, and wash them . yes, there will be enough to break through all of this, but there won't be enough bombs, and they say that it will be necessary. i'm holding on with the help of infantry or blocking and bypassing. how would it be, this is a contented positional war, slow, well, on the one hand, it's understandable , it's such a precaution, because no one wants to expose themselves again to some kind of idiot who announced something and it didn't happen but on the other hand, this caution of the
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propagandists is all the more interesting because they, well, in principle, really need to show it. although there is some kind of success , and you know that in the first place. well, propagandistic and even moral success, which is what they also talk about. i want to remind everyone of you that we spent the last two months together in this studio in very anxious anticipation. let's honestly admit that it was an anxious expectation. we had a hard time morally and psychologically leaving kherson . by creating second population centers, a soldier cannot fight for a long time, especially a positional war, this is not our war , there is a positional war here, a positional war is not our war. well, instead of the usual winner on the air of both the largest tv channels, russia-1 and the first, well, such
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thoughts what else needs to be seen, how it will return and whether it will return to where it should be if we, er, limit ourselves to solidar, this is a tactical success, even a large tactical success, if the solidar goes further offensive and we will go to the level of kramatorsk er slavyansk - this is already a strategic success soledar of course important, i don't argue, i don't argue, it is important in order to get artem and after artemovska beauty of kramatorsk gruppirovke even this agglomeration yes and dill district of slavonic kramatorsk is still quite far there sooner it is possible to apply for seversk, this is not more likely, that is, how would the movement be then, to the north, soledar is a gangster , and they are going to an international audience in
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case there are at least some successes there they are also already voicing and he, well, in principle well, we understand let's do it soledar, this is an argument. this is our answer. i don't think they will risk such a flow of tanks as 300, there are 500, 200, this already says that the war will turn the opposite character for ukraine. speak all er, well, agents of influence of the russians, first of all, in the west, among them, they will sound so that there may be something there, not to give any weapons, because well, there is no other er, motivation
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at all, here are the efforts of the russians. well, secondly, this is also a continuation the same narrative that this somehow has to change the logic of all others in general if there are no solidarists, if there are no clear, obvious, understandable and tactical and strategic victories of ours, if there is no heroism, then they will believe these gentlemen who will then gather in rammstein that with each deployed tank, with each deployed patriot, they solve the task that they formulated for themselves together with the zelenskii skoleby, that this is victory on the battlefield, the more tanks, the more patriots, the more success, this is the success of us today on earth, he breaks this logic this is
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mine, not so much of this information company and these tpps. and what else, everything is delivered to me and delivered to me. and we all calm ourselves down. they will end, it initially worked poorly , they have already reached the point that they actually put the tanks of the plane, and then zelensky already has a nuclear one, the rest of it. it would be to say them well, let 's put it this way, it would be shocking even for the russian population how many such indistinct hints that the deputy of the state duma rather whimsically tried to express to zhuravlyov, who feels him there in his soul but cannot say for me, for example
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, how is it pobeda eh soledare это можно in different ways, it is related to this , all of our victories, be it under the raisin, where i was personally there, and it was their second point, she was. yes, we were there. reconciliation took place, and in which we also gained the same experience in the fight against him, and we understand that now it can be done in a short time. what should he do? he should either throw everything into the furnace. says we haven't started yet, but now we're talking about how to start, well, we can start even more, and it's serious, we're piling on all of my ukraine , it won't last even low months, that's what you
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can do, and yes, we've all heard it, we're doing it like that, the question is not stones or stones, because loss is possible будет большие можете еще что-то, что-то, не ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- and what is he? he meant, he meant just throwing in a bunch of people and that, well, that’s what we know as assaults by mobs. well, that is, just throwing everyone with live people, and that gives some such and such a new way of fighting. that’s how it appears. and what exactly is that it can be understood from the fact that solovyov suddenly began to tell that there is a need to immediately build young people, who are
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now sent to conscripts to fight forever in wars , young people. personal fears, somewhere, something, well, how many guys who are now doing military service, they say, well, listen, well, here we are, look at yourself in the garden, 145 every year, perfectly prepared young guys. heals the conditions for them, he signed the contracts himself, but he has two sons of conscription age, but somehow they are not in a hurry either to join the army for conscription there or for conscription, there is no need to fight in the donbas, in short, that’s it, but these conversations
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which now constantly arise there, then about the fact that temporary kiwis should be sent to fight, then about the fact that there will be another wave of mobilization, which will then be refuted very actively by rumors, that's all. the explanation of what is the uniqueness of the hostilities and these new tactics were great. well and in view of this, it is even more interesting that on the background of this, as if i, a successful assault by a soldier, a strange thing suddenly happens to the commander of all these troops who organized all this, a surovikin is suddenly actually removed from the leadership to this united grouping of troops in ukraine, that is, from well, how is he removed from this position , even er, not just removed, well, the position was created under him, it must be remembered that he was the first who headed it, and now, instead of him, they
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are appointing the new commander of these so-called troops er, in a special military operation, as they say, the chief of the general staff of the army regeneral valery gerasimov, and soromykin is admitted to one of his three deputies . an explanation, as if somehow, it is necessary to coordinate the troops in this area in a special way, everyone should wage war if only gerasimo is able to do it well, they are, if you know, very strange, and here there is only one such several explanations, which, on the one hand, are heard in social networks it's as if syryvyky didn't live up to any expectations. what will this show? it's a real miracle. the whole of ukraine will sit on one side without light, and on the other side there will be active offensive actions. but none of this happened, moreover, there was some kind of mass
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utilization of the mobilized e -e and and just in assault actions in the kyiv ptu, and well, apparently , there is a person who will answer for this, but the fact that he was suddenly promoted is not the point, what does this mean , and here, in principle, there is no explanation taking into account the fact that, in parallel, general oleksandr lapin, about whom there were a lot of rumors earlier, a handsome man with a cadre, is suddenly appointed to the chief of the main staff of the ground forces, that is, he is being promoted . they lower it, on the other hand, they raise it, well, it’s as if they are competing with such people, and all this against the background of these statements of the entrance hall for salt dar and all of them, well, you know, the degree of the domestic hryvnia has somehow risen very, very, very much, what this
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all means is not clear but the reaction of the russian propagandists was, let’s put it bluntly, very strong. well, i was confused and reacted first and wrote that it’s like, what is he saying now? they are hyped on the news, someone is going to the forest, someone is burning firewood, as an honest expert, i am telling you honestly about the political consequences and springs of the appointment of gerasimov, no one knows anything. that's how it is, that is, it is unknown and it is also unknown what happened to
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what is happening in the studios of tv channels, well , the recruitment of the representative office is fine it is necessary, respectively, they said fun. well, how would i remind that in the unity of the command, it is very important, of course, that the vertical command is not very important, how important is it that i remind you that the vertical is correct , respectively, horizontally, and let 's go let's look at the cases according to the results. let 's see how the system will work. how are you, the more that the next two weeks will come and sasha will come from work intensively? well, the situation will become a little clearer if you look at what the tv presenter of the first channel, such a kremlin propagandist, ruslan ostashko, said on the air of radio komsomolska pravda. he is essentially -he told and why exactly the military can't take the russian bakhmut and what is wrong
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there? it was faster to do it not just there. and the colossal arsenal of weapons, but let’s also honestly say that our ministry of defense has a certain ideological conflict . - eh showdowns can't effectively complete the tasks together, well, that is, from this point of view, it becomes a little clear what happened , what happened because, uh, um, prigozhina and chvk wagner somehow became too much, so ot putin apparently decided to balance it out a bit, that is, it’s his usual attempt, you know, to bend everyone so that no one , especially of this general level of this dirt , would climb out of their swamps and their head
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wouldn’t stick out too much. well, that’s why i now the russian pro- landists are forced to tell that the status of the special operation is being raised there, from now on it is the main military matter of the country, as if it used to be of secondary importance there, and that you are personally responsible for the operation, as if before i was not personally responsible, and all that kind of stuff well, sometimes even well, these are just completely wild assumptions when american tanks come to you. well, not american yet, but american, but not the most likely, too , the rates will be raised accordingly , too, and what is in the authority of general gerasimov, he is the chief of the general staff is engaged in the operational management of the seven russian armed forces, including the nuclear forces .
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this kind of use, which we talked about the day before, colleagues talked about, well, the general staff is in vienna, and as a signal to the west that we are ready for any escalation of the increase, it is quite rare that one of those who agree to the use of promising weapons, as you know, it looks like this you know what to talk about nuclear weapons, you don't know how to respond to such events well, also talk about nuclear weapons, you know what to do with the supply of weapons to ukraine again talk about nuclear weapons, what does it do in the solovyov principle is in line, the expression is that they will get the leopards. and why should we bear the brunt of the attack on the leopards? well, seriously, that is. well, finland, we have already talked about this 10 times on the territory of ukraine, and it is not suitable for us, they
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must gather somewhere in order to go i would like to be fucked, please. finland wants to transfer tanks to the territory of finland . it will destroy it. it will strike. pleasant senada. i don't understand what the problem is. they use tactical nuclear weapons. when there is no certainty of victory, at least somewhere on earth, these conversations begin and they still need to be considered if they continue, there is no confidence in the success of their offensive actions, the russians really do not have, and how will it all end for the russian army and how will they be there or you live handsomely after all this too. by the way, it's interesting because now after he was humiliated. well, unless he's left somewhere there, some jerk will accidentally punch him, that's all. i guess we'll see in the next series what will be. soon enough, so see you when
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