where is some cream already starting? and when this connection is still at a distance, which still breaks the image, it breaks the voice, this is how we connect for the last time. well, we saw each other for five months in a row, and i saw each other only in december, it took us about a day just to adapt to each other again because the video connection still breaks the perception, it breaks the perception of the voice and gestures. we have one common goal, we have a common vision of the future and it continues the future is connected with ukraine 10 seconds anya you will return to ukraine i will return of course i just want to do what i can now that depends on me who are here in canada for the good all of us and then have the opportunity to generally travel and live and do work

on different continents at any time. thank you . unfortunately, our live broadcast has to end, and lechikhina's advisor in the canadian parliament was the heroine of the refugees with anzhelika sezonenko this is what i am finishing up serhii rudenko with the program in the architect. congratulations to anzhelika. literally in a few seconds we will start the verdict program. glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program . my name is serhiy rudenko. good day and good health to all. today, january 12, is the 323rd day of the heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers. russia can to repeat a mass attack on ukraine of a mixed type, as the defense forces of ukraine believe, to kill more than a hundred russian invaders under the soledar and in russia they want to raise the conscription age to 30 years already this spring, meanwhile, the russian

army continues to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine, as of the morning of january 12, russia has already lost 113,990 people in ukraine in the last day alone, the armed forces of ukraine have destroyed 430 orks since the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost 394 tanks in ukraine 6,159 armored combat vehicles 2,082 artillery systems 437 rocket salvo systems 218 anti-aircraft defenses 285 aircraft 276 helicopters 4,826 units of motor vehicles 17 boats boats 723 winged missiles 1865 drones 184 units of special equipment about how putin rearranges the bed in the general staff of the ministry of defense of the russian federation leopards come to the aid of ukraine

well and about the situation that is currently developing near soledar and bakhmut we will talk about this for the next hour i want to introduce our first guest now - this is andrii ryzhenko, an expert at the center for defense strategies, a captain of the first rank of the reserve p. good day to andrii. good health to you and i am glad that you are on our air. good day, let's start our conversation from yesterday's meeting in lviv , the representatives of the lublin triangle, the presidents of ukraine, poland, and lithuania, in a special format, and yesterday , during this meeting, the president of poland, angie and duda, announced that a company of leopard 2 tanks would be provided to ukraine in a word, let's hear and see what the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelensky, said about this meeting. poland made a decision to

transfer tanks to ukraine. i thank you for this. to the state, the anti-aircraft system, the weapons we need to protect against iranian drones , to protect our energy industry. thank you litanos for this next manifestation of unchanging principled support for ukraine, which began before february 24 and will continue until our victory. today i heard this confidence once again from angel and from gitanos because together we will go the way to restoring the security of ukraine and all of europe to restoring our territorial integrity to restoring peace p andriy so poland announced the possible transfer of a company to ukraine tanks, it is somewhere around 12 or 14 tanks, and this is quite a

positive signal for ukraine and the whole world , because with the arrival of the first batch of these tanks , the character of the russian-ukrainian war may change, is it true? well, yes, it is true, we see that the purpose of the weapons that are now arriving in it is becoming more and more difficult for ukraine and now, in fact, the a-a system has already started to be supplied with such heavy defense equipment. i want to remind you that two weeks ago a decision was announced on the transfer of x bradley infantry vehicles, what are these? well, these are not tanks, but they work very effectively on tanks during the military operations against iraq in the early 90s, in fact, two-thirds of the arab t-72 tanks

were destroyed precisely by this bradley bmp. and as for classic tanks, this is such a key weapon for offensive operations er, which ones do we need now because, in principle , we have already learned to defend ourselves. well, in order to advance further, that is exactly what is missing. and such heavy equipment is not enough. and for a long time, in general, i studied this issue. well, this is, in principle , eh let's say such a question is more political strategic plane, but well, i understand that with this signal, by bradley, by uh, the beginning of the discussion of the prospects for the transfer of tanks , leopard challengers, ambrance, well, this one, maybe this one , this curtain and what used to exist, it has

actually already been removed and here is yesterday's statement the president of our brother poland says that these tanks will be received very soon, and the leopard-2 is known to be, in principle , one of the most advanced and capable combat vehicles in the world, and those tanks that are currently in russia federations even the most advanced and often advertised, but not but they are very far away, they would be beaten by the overall capabilities of the leopard-2 e.p. andrei, we know that in europe the total number of these leopards is 2,000 , that is, 2,000 leopard 1 and leopard 2 tanks are in europe if ukraine will receive even 10%. it's 200 tanks, what is it, what does it

mean for ukraine and for russia, well, you know, it's a little difficult. i'm not an expert. that 's exactly it. in military affairs, i can say that if europe provides 10%, then it will be this is a very serious step for her, because 2,000 tanks for all european countries is not a lot , but they are capable, well, it will be approximately, i think the effect will be similar to the transfer to us of a small number of haimas, which , well, if we compare them in numbers, relatively for example, the russian or soviet volley-launcher systems that the enemy has, there are not many of them, but in terms of quality, they are very different systems. well, i remember that it was our wolf, if i'm not mistaken. he said something about 200 or 300 tanks, that's me in principle

i believe that this, well, this is this number, it is quite suitable for the west in order to provide us with such modern equipment that has a technological and fire advantage over the enemy, if we have such a number of tanks, we will be able to advance and liberate the territories further. and of course in a complex with new new additional air defense systems of artillery with missile weapons and with airplanes, the british government announced that it is considering the possibility of providing ukraine with its tanks to repel russian aggression, this decision was made at the request of poland at the same time, there are a lot of questions from the german side, because the love show says that, er, he doubts about the need to provide ukraine with so many tanks, and obviously the chancellor of

germany will focus on the position of american president joe biden, we know that the eighth rammstein is planned this is a meeting of the defense ministers of 40 countries that support us in this war, which are a conditional anti-putin coalition. literally in a few days. this meeting must take place and it is obvious what duda said yesterday. there was an announcement of what will be discussed and what will be discussed, what will the ministers of defense talk about at the meeting, in the rammstein format according to your opinion, or has the world finally decided that russia in that form and russia , er, which carries a threat in this world, er, everyone

russia needs to do something, and here is this heavy equipment that will now be delivered to ukraine. this means that the very sending of this equipment to ukraine should in 2023 solve the main question of what will happen next with russia. well, yes. in my opinion, it should be decided that after all is happening now in europe, er, in eastern europe parts of europe, what is it, what is it, what is it, there is no civil war in ukraine, there is no conflict, it is the same, the same, the same, the same, the usual, the classic conditional war, yes, yes, in general, it is more correct to say well, the genocides of the destruction of the ukrainian people by the russian regime because of the fact that a-ah, well, we disagree, let's say to join the composition of this new er-er

russian empire. i think it's all very, very clear now er-er clearly , but secondly, we see that er-a support for putin even among such allies is significantly, in general, a-a falls a-a even well, for example there, in the same kazakhstan, armenia, china, we see certain political, economic , military steps that indicate that they are very careful about contacts and cooperation . very careful assessments of the situation. and he will, in principle, understand that in order to end this war, let's say in a format that can ensure the

further development of democratic values ​​and freedoms in the world, this is necessary for this heavy weapons for ukraine, and we see it, and in general, this is really the collective opinion of the g7 countries and nato countries, it indicates that, in general, the help now will be provided precisely with heavy weapons. i want to recall that such a loud article in the economist magazine that was published at the end of last year by our vovkom. in principle, i think that she started this process precisely because, well, in general, the need for this in this weapon is very, very large, but the countries they see , they mentioned german, for example of the chancellor yes well, literally, literally,

last week, the minister of foreign affairs of germany visited kharkiv rather unexpectedly, and even this week, she looked at what the situation was there, and the conclusions were very, very clear that we support ukraine in the fight for her freedom . and that means the russian regime that unleashed this war must be punished. by the way , many countries of the world have a very consolidated position regarding ukraine. decisions and carried them out regarding the conduct of hostilities in ukraine. she must be responsible for this, that is why, in general, this is what i see such serious trends of changes, let's say geostrategic changes, our benefit, well

, in the fight for our freedom, both geostrategic and political and economic and military that 's why the main thing here now is to simply keep this trend in this direction and in general to continue this work, this diplomacy first of all and politics and the military economy as well well, the main thing is that now there is a lot is being decided on the eastern front near soledar and bakhmutov yesterday about the successes of the ukrainian troops and the situation with how propagandists from russia tried to present their victory or admiration for soledar , volodymyr zelenskyi also spoke in his evening address to ukrainians, let's see now the terrorist state and propagandists are trying to pretend that some part of our city of soledar, a city almost completely destroyed by the

occupiers, no, this is some kind of gain from russia, they will submit it and are already submitting it to their society in order to support the mobilization to give hope to those who are in favor of aggression, but because it continues. the donetsk direction is holding and we are doing everything to strengthen ukrainian defense without interruption, even for one day. our potential is growing. i thank all our partners who help in this. and the special operations forces of the armed forces of ukraine are talking about the fact that more than a hundred russian soldiers died in the battles for soledar, and to eliminate the enemies of ukraine, the ukrainians used artillery and a tactical missile complex at andriy, taking into account how the enemy during 11 has been trying to take the two cities of soledar and bakhmut for months and is constantly storming and storming these

cities. what can you say why the russian federation is leaning on these two cities and they think that it is just a matter of principle for them to take soledar and bakhmut? well, i think this corresponds to the philosophy the russian introduction of war to their operational art if the task is set, it must be fulfilled and this well, we see it not for the first time. well, we remember in approximately this style the battles for raisin a-and somewhere in the spring, also for several months once upon a time, the battles for izyum were the same thing, and with regard to lysychansk and other cities in the east of ukraine, but here, in principle, well,

their formal task that they set for their troops and advertised again on television was the fact that they, ah, well, the last time such a term was applied to the new year, they had to go to the admin of the borders of donetsk region and luhansk region, and here they are, well, they don't get anything done because, in principle, the defensive lines were created very reliably and uh- it was not possible for them to advance even in the conditions of dominance, there is already power in equipment and firepower. i mean artillery and tactical aviation, but they are the same . just then that mr. prigozhin came to the rescue, who with his men began to start under such conditions of motivational exemptions

from the punishment of recruitment. this e- e.p.k. baknar, the so -called assault squads, which are currently carrying out, are trying to capture these two cities, and i want to remind you that there are now, in these two cities, the majority of these units, which are concentrated were created starting from september, and the discipline there is very strict, let's say so, in terms of the fact that in the case of refusal to attack, in principle, they are simply destroyed by all of wagner's blocking units which one is behind, that's why, in principle, she's like that . well, let's say she can wander a little bit,

but that's the psychology that we perform all the tasks, so she's the reason why they're like that. which means that they are trying to seize these two places, the second option is perhaps to lay down ours additional forces so that we can hold these two places. and it is possible to prepare such strikes. in other directions, we know that there , they are in the process of mobilization. now they are actually there , and they are finishing practicing their actions already as part of the battalions, and there is order there. more than 200,000 e-e mobilized persons who can be used as zaporizhzhia region. yes, maybe somewhere in the north, so this could be another reason

, but again, a-a. these processes that are occurring now in russia show that prigozhin is exactly what he wants to recruit of these loans trust in the authorities a-a demonstrating that his eyes are er-e let's say criminal troops a-a they are much more effective than regular units , even the professional armed forces of russia well, mr. andriy, the existence of two armies at the front because we see that there are er- in the army of the ministry of defense of the russian federation there is a private military company, but from the point of view of management, from the point of view of competitiveness or from the point of view of effectiveness, what does it give to russia or does it, on the contrary, create certain conflicts as a result of which we see public

prigozhin's accusations against the stable of the same gerasimov, and now gerasimov begins to lead the united forces fighting on the territory of ukraine, and now prigozhin finds himself in a very bad situation, well, relatively speaking , now a lot in his life will depend , including on gerasimov well, you see, if we talk about the tactical level, then in principle, prigozhin can really show that his units, these assault units, they are more effective than most regular units of the russian of the army, well, this is all done at the expense of very large er losses, because they actually ignore the losses, they a-a let their fighters a-a there they are very quickly approaching our positions, they are there well, due

to the maneuver, speed and suddenness they they are trying to move forward, but if they are detected, then thanks to such a powerful defense and they are destroyed very quickly , but they probably have tactical successes because these are the principles of war, suddenness , mobility and maneuverability, they give advantages, but as for uh, let's say already issues at the level of operational or even strategic, there really are such misunderstandings here, because, well, this kind of behavior is encouraged. it really pushes the military leadership away from him a little, on which these assault units also depend in many respects, in terms of supply and fire support , and the provision of various e-e combat e-e

types of support department of combat support because well, just like that, they also cannot exist, they need intelligence, they need air cover and they need sharp cover and they need medical logistics help and so on, that is , questions may arise here. and here it is possible that there is a certain reluctance to communicate and cooperate, it can and can be . well, it should be, let’s say, of the same type. moreover, it is sensitive for the russian army, because it is of the same type and very centralized, so it is,

let’s say, no different, and let’s say that it is possible to delegate powers and to solve some tasks at the lower levels of the military administration there, in fact, everything is decided individually or by a very narrow circle of e-e commanders, but here it is very weak a-a, let's say, the feature of what prigozhin is trying to do is to first create his own such a small army, and secondly is asked to play some kind of game, it is not very clear. i think it is a game for the main mass of the russian armed forces. british intelligence informs andrei that russia has transferred under soledar and criminalizes summer landing units, as the british write

we are talking about the units of the 76th guards petrine airborne division. well, about what is happening now in bakhmut, the defender of the city, the witch, will tell you about the situation in this direction. glory to ukraine, greetings from the fortress of bakhmut. regarding the operational situation for today, i must say that the village of defense has been suspended. active the offensive of the russian troops is very powerful today, our artillery is working very effectively, we are trying to contain the occupying forces as much as possible, many people are now confused about the soledar, about the fact that there is a bypass from the flanks speaking in the language of military science, i want to tell you one thing that the advance of troops on

the flanks makes the flanks very vulnerable, so you don’t have to pay attention to the front, it is big and on the front we are constantly moving 500,000 m back and forth today, some positions retreated because, after all, we we value the lives of our soldiers, unlike the russians, who simply use the wagnerites and their units as cannon fodder. understand correctly, we don't need a victory at any cost, we need a victory that will be a victory and not just a big mountain, that's why we are working actively, very actively, not only in this direction, i can't tell you all the details, but i want to note that the defense forces are armed the forces of ukraine,

you can trust them. we are on the defensive, we control the situation, we understand what the enemy is doing, how he does what he does and why he does it, and decisions are made that can block one or another of the occupation forces , all i can say is glory to ukraine glory to our nation glory to our soldiers eh everything will be fine sometimes in order to win you have to play the gambit well, this is the situation at the bakhmut and the institute for the study of war of the united states of america reports that the inability of the defense industrial base of the russian federation to overcome the shortage of ammunition will prevent the ability to maintain offensive operations in the east of ukraine in 2023, mr. andriy, do you agree with this statement by the experts of the institute for the study of war and what, according to you, can stop the russian army?

and artillery rockets they are running out, so this information is no longer new, but somewhere literally. today, i see a message from our general staff that they are recording a significant reduction in the number of enemy artillery uses, in fact by 75%. and we know that russia is trying to buy ammunition in other countries, there was a conversation about the north

and the crimea in the past. a superpower, like the soviet union, they did it at the expense of the west, let's say that at the expense of the west, they raised their economy, because the measures for them simply bought at the market price, uh, there this oil, they actually increased their defense budget 20 times and with the same funds, they began to buy the most developed technological technologies and samples of components for their new equipment. so they thought that they would buy it in the west, but when the war started in ukraine and when, well, in general - then after a certain period, let's say analysis because completely with the word what is the reason