after all, airplanes are what, er, hmmm, are the most needed today, but the most difficult thing is to get them, because, er, getting western-made airplanes is a whole complex here, it’s not like that, here we need infrastructure, here we need service specialists, well, pilots themselves it is clear, yes, and the provision of this aircraft, moreover, with means of destruction with spare parts, and so on, and so on. therefore, this is a big, broad question, not just a month ago, so this decision is not simply made. and , plus, the preparation of infrastructure airfields developer so that they can more or less safely perform tasks from these of these areas well, but here we are also talking about the fact that we just need a start, so providing, albeit without a quadrillion, two of our air forces , aviation, air carriers, then we can push back further and gradually get all the more so armed, these same planes

will also become part of the air defense, which will be its basis and will be destroyed in the e-e- threat of yuriy, there is the e-e of our capabilities and the acquisition of the latest complexes from our partners. we also rely on what we already have that we know well that our military is capable of working eh, actually there is a lot of information about the fact that the enemy is redeploying his planes and helicopters deeper into his rear, as he at least thinks, and now it is in berdyansk that some kind of eh hm base is being built for their planes and note that, unfortunately, this complicates our work, since the extreme point on the demarcation line is about er or even more than 80 km to

berdyansk . well, no it's so far from our border and we saw black women, so i think there's nothing for them to do there, and cotton can catch up with us somewhere there, so i'd like to believe that it will happen. we are in touch and we are moving on petro andryushchenko, advisor to the mayor of mariupol, we are in touch with you, peter, congratulations and glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, i congratulate you, well, accordingly, we cannot but redirect the question to you, which we just a couple of minutes ago, in particular christina directed to the spokesman of the command against e-e air forces of the armed forces of ukraine, yuriy ignat, in particular, what is happening in berdyansk, the russian interventionists

are starting to leave some kind of air force there, and accordingly, what news is coming, so to speak, from the reformation of their manpower, in particular, it is said along the lines of berdyan and mariupol well, if we talk about berdyansky airfield , why is it being built there? i can say that today we observed a large number of helicopters going through mariupol in the direction of zaporizhia oblast. exactly in the direction of berdyansk. that's why it's exactly right. yes, where we look at the clocks with the same people in berdyansk, it says that they are going there to base themselves. of course, we hope that this is a very big mistake. and it's very good that it's very big a mistake because it is hoped that the ukrainian armed forces will reach here, well, it is somehow absurd, and again, without even returning to chernobaivka, i will say that if a flight reached mariupol, it was already a fact, then

mariupol is probably not from the newly occupied territories, well, exactly how far the point in from the front lines. therefore, they are hiding in berdyansk as they are accumulating, i think that will happen. and actually with this a little bit. in the end, they are waiting for us closer to the evening, some good new news, confirmation from the general staff, well, no , these are still harbingers of good news, so i work like this, we will continue to work on manpower manpower unfortunately, it continues increase continues to increase as much in the direction of zaporizhzhia region as in general and to this

day . settle near the administrative center of the city and where our neighborhood has survived to this day, including the western one, a lot of surviving apartments have survived in houses are closed because the people in the evacuation open these apartments to looters and settle there the military and russians, not only the officers . visually, it became much more, so that the impression is that there are two to three times more military personnel on the streets than just civilians, in particular with russian civilians , so we can see what they are doing, we can see that there is a certain non-rotation because, for

example, the village of our balansarai spit was used there, it was brought there from the direction of kherson, then the russians were taken out of there, and now they have brought in so-called denars , that is, as a result of our donetsk, it is still being placed, so i really use mariupoli, which rotation center let’s say so, yes, such a body base ah, and we are watching it all. well, let's hope that it won't be long, what do you say here, we will work on knowing someone and how i would like it to be easier for our armed forces to approach them certify them as make-up workers directly in mariupol once again, please. approximately how many russian troops can be located in mariupol right now? maybe in the vicinity if you take mariupol, mariupol district. i would say that there were somewhere around 20-25 thousand there before the new year, and as of today already languages ​​go from 30 to 40, it is clear that

this is something that is happening in a dynamic way. well, it is difficult to estimate exactly, but it is definitely from 30 to 40,000. this means mariupol and the mariupol district, the former tamangovsk nikolsky district, this part, mr. spokesman, oh , i apologize to the councilor, i would like to ask you how much they are increasing their power in donetsk region in general, we understand how fierce the fighting is going on, bakhmut soledar of the crime, but it is just possible that you have information that they are now charging there, it is difficult because through mariupol, in fact, nothing to date and directly in that direction, judging by everything, they are going to the bypass, yes, no, through our novo azov district, there is another road in the telman district, it seems to them a little it is safer, and some of the equipment that they bring out, equipment that is supplemented by the

same trucks or parts. what was on rotation, well, these are insignificant forces, and we understand that we simply do not see what is going north, well, global. if he said so, the only thing that we see is that very sports are used they have aviation, aviation is leaving from rostov on don, if before that the main airfield that they were watching was primorsky ask, which is near it, which is across the sea, then today, for some reason, we mostly see planes leaving this is the situation, and i agree, the situation is extremely difficult. if we talk about the use of the civil infrastructure of mariupol, what did you start talking about at the beginning of our inclusion ? forced labor for the occupiers, in particular, it is

about these or other i don't know there, uh, the construction of ditches or concrete fortifications about combine harvesters, combine harvesters are actually used mostly as a military base, because it is a large area, you understand. yes, we understand, and there are a large number of premises in the complex. well, even compared to all of mariupol, they were almost unharmed and there is a place to hide, and it is very easy to block any access in order to understand what is hidden there. well, at least about whom they are hiding there, uh, it’s very easy to hide even from satellites, it’s relatively located, so from this point of view , they use bits and pieces as a control base well, but not for significant repairs as repair bases, after all after all, it uses those bases that are located in the novoazovsk region, which has long been established for the most part, and the equipment is dragged there, uh, regarding forced labor

, first of all, this is really digging, it started as not very forced, but it happened, how did it really happen, people who were employed in quotes the luchaz plant is being responded to by the police somewhere in the kherson region. it has not been the first month that they actually do not get in touch. because they are given money there, they live in the fields. and just as they promised them, they would go home once a week. call there are some people who are directed by the rules of sports, they worked in december, they went to the so-called advanced training in the crimea, and just like that they disappeared, they do not come out, they have not been contacted yet. we think that they are also chewing the trenches somewhere or directly in the crimea or somewhere in the kherson region, maybe the zaporizhia region , because we see such tactics. what, for example , people from the luhansk region are digging trenches around mariupol, er, and they are rescuing people .

does not give any secrecy to what they are doing on the one hand, on the other hand. well, somehow it complicates the process for them. it seems to me that it sets people against the fact that, for example , recently, again, at kombinatil licha, they tried to recruit people to dig trenches, they promise all these there are great conditions, some non-existent and they didn't gather anyone because everyone knows who went there to dig and that he didn't return under what conditions so if well it's already russians as russians it's good what's that called mr. petre mariupol heat water light what's there in people and in what volumes do you know lately? well, let's go right now, we can talk retrospectively, right now, while we're talking, technologies in one district of the city, the entire presentation in our eastern district, it's not even a zealous microdistrict in another district, there's no heat, there's no kalmium

an area that was more or less warm because the main number of these mobile catalans that they brought were put there, the fuel ran out and it is not there , they don’t work at all for the second day. well, in general, there are constant power outages the electricity is turned off in large parts of the cities, we get at once the system of turning on all these electric heaters , that's why it's cold in mariupol, it's really very cold in the houses and it's just some kind of tin and we're watching how the mortality rate is rising rapidly once again and to be honest, if the weather conditions don't improve or it's winter it will be as it is today in the city of mariupol, well, on the first of march, let's say at the onset of heat, yes, we will not add up to several thousand simply as a result of this famine. find i don't know any new burial locations of people from mariupol, er, civilian,

maybe military, from the time of the defense of the city, or they appear a little because they are small, yes , we will mostly talk about private graves that were buried when people were buried during the invasion and who ended up in one way or another under the garbage or something else. that is, it is not so uncommon and they still find corpses. they still find corpses in abandoned houses, but compared to what happened, these are more isolated cases. you have to look at our cemeteries in the old crimea, there are all these burials, excavators go there 24/7, there are all ditches and it doesn't stop , which also indicates the level of mortality that still exists, well, the russians are already hiding everything that they wanted to hide, they have already hidden everything that they wanted to, let's say, falsify it, they have already falsified it, because the burials are mostly

people who are dying right now , well, because it's terrifying there, you can watch it from the city, you can watch it from above, as we say from the satellite and you see the cemetery is growing, we are melting well, it is growing abnormally, in peacetime, it has never grown at such a speed, it is a reversal , that is, the part that is actually burial and reburial as a result of military action, well, it is growing very quickly well, if we say that today in comparison with the highest point of mortality in the school, not a period for a city of half a million people. yes, if we compare with this point, today in mariupol the mortality rate is already eight times higher and continues to grow. well , we understand that the area on today, the cemetery has grown on such a scale that we would have a year and a half of normal civilian life before the war, and once again i will emphasize the half million city for today, we have a hundred thousand people, give us such growth, well, this is horror

, this is the cold, this is genocide, this is what we have, what we have , this is what we have русской бола экспертимы on on the example of mariupol unfortunately, the saddest thing for us is that everything we see rolling back in mariupol is the repressive regime, the cold, i don't know, genocide, coercion, er, anything, anything, anything that we can invent it rolls back the numbers and then it is scaled in all occupied territories where as well as yes zaporizhzhia region is occupied now it receives the same access regime that existed in mariupol before that in mariupol thank god it was canceled now zaporizhzhia region is introduced and well and so on and so on petra i would like to ask you briefly. and why did they destroy the house with the clock because russia? well, there is no other way. if there is any logic here, let me build it and understand why i will say so very briefly, and the

order for the demolition of the dismantling of any the building is issued directly by moscow and people come to work with the task received from russia for information support , there are many times who are sitting in the city, and that is why they are here . and at the same time, those who received an order for demolition are simply demolishing the information field in front of their eyes. if she was well, maybe we saved this house by resonance. that's how we understand that it will all continue to be destroyed in it . some buryat over there digs into it. arnautov, you know what pushkin. what lesya ukrainka, well , it's something wild for him. if only he had been told something about the yurt . that would be fine.

well, he is paid for what if this house didn't exist, it would be his own. that's how it works. the house with the clock is a historical monument of the city. and actually, as far as i remember , all the memories the fields are historical and cultural the sights in mariupol were somehow affected by the hostilities. and what is left of the drama theater, mr. petre, the question is what will remain of it, because the work on its disassembly and dismantling continued after christmas, this seventh, let's say or not get confused with our side of ours, it continues to be dismantled according to the plan, only the front part of the pp of the front wall will remain, and everything else will be destroyed and taken away, and obi that will be completed. day to say what's left of him. i guess it's too early. little by little, i think that nothing

will really be left of him when they get to this wall. for some reason, i'm sure that there will be some kind of surprise . it will remain like this, all monuments are destroyed, all monuments are destroyed, the memory is in the house with the clock, yes arnautov. well, it is actually a monument of an international level. just all the mosaics of arnautov that he made in in the united states of america, all of them are recognized as the national heritage of the united states of america. so, what can we say about a person and the next one? we will probably be a rabbit and a head, including the most famous one, which is located in mariupol. one almost destroyed friend is still holding on. i think that it is because of them. well, without us, they don't even know what it is. well, actually, for this extremely interesting but also tragic conversation, petro andryushchenko , advisor to the mayor of mariupol, was working

now live on the espresso tv channel, we're moving on, a military expert, editor defons-express edition p valery, we congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes well, we think we have a shift, we have promises about tanks, the president of poland jay duda expressed confidence that the company of leopard-2 tanks announced by him will enter the tank brigade or an even larger unit formed by machines provided by many countries of the coalition well, we understand yes, but for it to be created and there was a decision of the relevant all supporting states, poland has demonstrated that it is ready for this well, and accordingly, we would like to ask you how ready our other western partners will be, we see in connection with these statements that there is active work on the preparation of the eighth meeting of our

partners in the rammstein format, and as we can see from these sources of information and statements of the parties that are being done at the moment well, let's say that there is active support of the decision-making process regarding the supply of heavy armored vehicles to ukraine, and well, it is very telling that poland acts as a kind of aggregator of this process and a catalyst, and it is very telling after poland's statement, a statement from great britain also sounded about the readiness to allocate tanks, and in addition, it should be noted that even earlier, let's say, there were informational reports about the possibility of a coalition of similar states and, well, let's say it was not by chance that they were called and a number of countries that could

join this er coalition, in particular , sounded er, such countries as, for example, finland in addition to poland, denmark er, and germany itself, and it should be said that germany is a key player in the decision-making regarding the allocation of these tanks and essentially germany, as a manufacturer of these tanks, has to uh, make such a decision, in addition, this country has the ability to supply a sufficiently large number of these tanks, uh, well, but that is not the main thing, because the appearance of these tanks is only part of the matter, and it is necessary in addition to get these tanks, to learn how to operate them even more, to improve their technical support, maintenance and repair. well, the timely

delivery of all the necessary components, spare parts, ammunition, etc. is a process, and at the moment we see that our partners are actively are discussing this issue and only a part of, let's say, all such questions appear in the comedy space as such, let's say , stimulants and directing in this discussion i hope that it will eventually mature into the fact that a decision will be made regarding the creation at the beginning count a small unit, and most likely it could still be a combined unit, eh. and i would like this unit to have uniform weapons, in addition to the fact that it should be, for example, leopard tanks, they would also have eastern characteristics and eastern modifications because, well, it was maybe where to organize their high-quality exploitation and

the armed forces of ukraine, and the fact that er, it is now on time the story about the closed sky is the situation with the tanks is no less important but the british tanks will it be the second challengers or not what do you think will happen well because britain is sending a good signal but we would like to see the goods so to speak on our soil well regarding java britain we at the moment, we cannot say with certainty whether these will be challengers, we cannot rule out such an option, because in the essence of the matter, the appearance of a unit of one, if i understand that regarding the previous deliveries of various types of

weapons, the partners when they make a decision about the supply of this or that equipment is already let's say this, sounding is the finalization of this process and it must be understood that when the decision is announced, it has already been thought out how to install them, how to train the staff and how to ensure their full let's say operation and technical maintenance on the battlefield in ukraine , first of all, logistics chains are being established to ensure the operation of this equipment, so in fact at that stage, when we need tanks, we should give up any equipment and the same challengers can be enough. let's put it this way. it is the one with a big steel fist that will add

strength to our attacking units and speed up the time of liberating the territory of ukraine from the invaders. of american vehicles have arrived in the netherlands, from where they are heading straight to eastern europe to strengthen nato's eastern flank. well, it is purely legally possible , politically and, of course, mechanically . by countries by countries that are members of the clinical-atlantic alliance, which are our neighbors, respectively . means of the nato countries, er, precisely in the european er, theater, and in essence, the matter is transferred

, er, stockpiles of armored vehicles, er, and various means . plans to transfer er to ukraine er and in the essence of the matter it cannot be ruled out that part of this equipment that is currently being thrown away may in the future be made a decision about er shelling the possibility of the armed forces of ukraine er and well it is worth understanding that after all, nato has been implementing this policy for a long time deterrence and only worth overturning last year the 101st airborne division in romania and the selection from its composition of e-e parts of

combat groups that e-e conduct training in bulgaria, germany, hungary and slovakia e-e studying the theater of military operations and showing the confidence of e-e nato countries er, and the determination is that they will defend every meter er, let’s say their allies, the land of nato allies, and this is also happening right now on the eastern flank on the territory of poland, where, before this reinforcement, about 12 000 servicemen of the first infantry division of the us army. so we see the continuation of this process. i can't help but ask valeria about pakistani history. yesterday, it began to spread in the information field, in particular through the public because of the publication in the indian media. well, we understand the peculiarities of the relationship between the two countries, but one way or another,

information has appeared that from pakistan, russia, or rather ukraine, can receive a certain number of projectiles, and this number is not insignificant. we can rely on, because there is a 155 mm nato standard, and actually what we already know how to use well and the installations for which we have . already in the past, and in fact , with the rules, well, at the moment, we can say that there is an indirect supply of transport equipment to ukraine. this is a supply through third countries , and here we must pay tribute to our partners who, let's say, have certain levers of influence uh, they are mobilizing countries in this world and

manufacturers so that they supply uh, various shells of uh calibers, which are needed primarily for ukraine, and as for pakistan, pakistan has a very developed uh, such a projectile industry and manufactures such weapons in calibers of nato countries and post-soviet calibers, and on the right, we have already seen part of these projectiles in ukraine , their use of water is, let’s say, of high quality and meet all the criteria and requirements, and of course, such a decision when to let’s say so supply of the armed forces e our partners join in, it ensures ukraine's advantage in gaining access to shells against the background of the growing shell famine

in the russian federation. well, if we are talking about the russian federation, is it really true that they have already started a hunger strike very shortly? will hinder the ability of russian troops to support offensive operations in the 23rd year , but as we understand and see, for example , they still have enough soviet iron to throw them at us, well, the thing is that on the territory of the russian federation, there remains a large arsenal of projectiles there . let's say, what are the ones left as a legacy from the soviet union, but it should be noted that most of these stocks are not conventional projectiles that need them recycling and using them, let's say on the battlefield , first of all, carries risks for ourselves