this is you, viktoria. all the best to you in the implementation of this difficult idea during the war. viktoria yakush, architect, designer , founder of the studio faina, developed the project of the art center priymachenko, who now visits families, let's celebrate together, and we have literally a few seconds for important messages for you, president director of turkey dogan will hold talks with the leaders of the russian federation and ukraine, putin and zelensky, in the next two days. he will do so as usual by phone about the opening of the humanitarian corridor. this topic will be deciphered by our colleagues and, most likely, in the near future, we will receive messages that are explosive, the same as the events in makiivka from the 1st minute of the new year, from the kherson region, the supreme commander-in-chief's opinion on the situation in bakhmut and soledar, all this is further on our air, we say goodbye to you in zantin and convey the word of the verdict serhiy rudenko glory to ukraine is a

program verdict my name is serhiy rudenko good day and good health to all today january 12 is the 323rd day of the heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers russia may repeat a massive attack on ukraine is of a mixed type, as the defense forces of ukraine believe, more than a hundred russian invaders were killed under soledar and in russia they want to raise the conscription age to 30 already this spring, meanwhile, the russian army continues to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine, as of the morning of january 12, russia has already lost in ukraine, 113,990 people in the last day only, the armed forces of ukraine destroyed 430 orks with the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost in ukraine 394 tanks, 6,159

armored fighting vehicles, 2,082 artillery systems, 437 multiple rocket systems, 218 means against air defense 285 airplanes 276 helicopters 4826 units of automotive equipment 17 ships of boats 723 cruise missiles 1865 drones 184 units of special equipment about how putin rearranges the bed in the general staff of the ministry of defense of the russian federation leopards come to the aid of ukraine well and about the situation that is currently developing near soledar and bakhmut, we will talk about this all over the next hour, i want to introduce now our first guest - this is andriy ryzhenko, an expert of the center for defense strategies, a captain of the first rank of the reserve, mr. andriy dobrogo day good health to you and i'm glad that you are on our air and good day, let's start

our conversation from yesterday's meeting in lviv of the representatives of the lublin triangle, these are the presidents of ukraine, poland and lithuania, a special format and yesterday during this of the meeting, the president of poland, angie and duda, announced that a company of leopard 2 tanks will be provided in ukraine, in a word, let's hear and see what the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelensky, said about this meeting. poland made a decision on transfer of tanks to ukraine i thank you for this thank you to president duda of the government of poland to all our polish friends lithuania is handing over to our country the anti-aircraft system the weapons we need to protect against iranian drones to protect our energy industry thank you

for this yet another manifestation of unchanging principled support for ukraine that began before on february 24 and will continue until our victory, today i heard this confidence once again from angel and from gitanosamba, together we will walk the path to restoring the security of ukraine and all of europe to restoring our territorial integrity to the restoration of peace p andriyu so, poland has announced the possible transfer of a company of tanks to ukraine, that is somewhere around 12 or 14 tanks, and this is quite a positive signal for ukraine and the whole world , because with the arrival of the first batch of these tanks , the nature of the russian-ukrainian war may change, is that right? yes, it really is, so we see that the purpose of the weapons that are now arriving in ukraine is becoming more and more heavy and now, in fact

, such heavy harrow equipment has already begun to be delivered systematically. i want to remind you that two weeks ago because a decision was announced on the transfer of bradley infantry vehicles, what are they? well, these are not tanks, but they work very effectively on tanks during the military operations against iraq in the early 90s, in fact, two-thirds of the arab t-72 tanks were destroyed precisely by this bradley bmp and as for classic tanks, they are such a key weapon for conducting offensive operations , which we need now because, in principle , we have already learned how to defend ourselves. well, in order to advance further, that’s right. so, such heavy

equipment is not enough. and it takes a long time in general -then i studied this question. well, this is, in principle, let’s say this question is more of a political plane than a strategic one, but i understand that with this signal, bradley, at the beginning of the discussion on the prospects for the transfer of tanks , leopard challengers, ambrans. and what did it exist before, well, in fact, it has already been removed. and yesterday's statement by the president of our brother poland says that very soon these tanks will be received, and well , leopard-2 - it is known that it is, well, in principle , one of the most advanced and capable combat vehicles of the world and, well, those tanks that are

currently in the russian federation, even the most pardoned and often advertised, but not, but they are very far away, they would be beaten by the overall capabilities of the leopard-2 e p andriy, we know that in europe the total number there are 2,000 of these leopards, i.e. 2,000 leopard 1 and leopard 2 tanks are in europe, if ukraine gets even 10%, that’s 200 tanks, what does this mean for ukraine and for russia, well, you know, it’s a little difficult. i’m not an expert that's exactly v of military affairs, i can say that if europe provides 10%, it will be very serious for the nagirshaks, because 2,000 tanks for all european countries is not much, but they are capable, well, it will be approximately, i

think the effect will be similar to transfer to us a large number of heimers, which well, if we compare them in terms of numbers, for example , the russian or soviet volley fire systems that the enemy has, it is not many, but in terms of quality, it is a very different system. well, i remember that just like our wolf if i i don't remember. here he said something about 200 or 300 tanks, but in principle i believe that this, well, this is this number, it is quite feasible for the west in order to provide us with such modern equipment that has a technological and fire advantage over the enemy if we have such a number tanks, we will be able to advance and liberate the territories further

, of course, in a complex with new new additional anti-aircraft artillery systems with missile weapons and aircraft, the british government announced that it is considering the possibility of providing ukraine with its tanks for repelling russian aggression, this decision was made based on some statement by poland, at the same time there are a lot of questions from the german side, because lav-shows says that he, er, doubts about the need to provide ukraine with so many tanks, and obviously the chancellor of germany will focus on the position of american president joe biden, we know that the eighth rammstein is planned, this is a meeting of the ministers of defense of 40 countries that support us in this war, which are a conditional anti-putin

coalition. literally in a few days, this meeting must take place and it is obvious what duda said yesterday. it was an announcement of what will be discussed and what will be discussed. what will the ministers of defense talk about at the meeting . a threat in this world, all of russia, something needs to be done, and here is this heavy equipment that will now be sent to ukraine. this means that the very sending of this equipment to ukraine should in 2023 solve the main question of what will happen next with russia. well, in my opinion should be determined with the fact that what is happening now in the

european, uh, well, in the eastern part of europe, is this not some kind of civil war in ukraine or a conflict - it's the same a-a usual such a classic conventional war aha well, it is more correct to say well, the genocide of the destruction of the ukrainian people by our russian regime precisely because of the fact that we do not agree to join this new russian empire. i think that this is all very, very clear to everyone now secondly, we see that putin's support , even among such allies, is quite uh-huh in general, a-a falls a-a even well, for example , in the same kazakhstan, armenia, china, we

see certain political, economic , military steps that indicate that well, they are very careful about contacts and cooperation. at least at the political level, like this before this, there was a third intervention, in principle, after constant and very careful assessments of the situation. and he will, in principle, understand that in order to end this war, let's say in a format that can ensure the further development of democratic values ​​and of freedoms in the world, it is, for this, heavy weapons are needed for ukraine, and we see it, and in general, the collective opinion of the g7 countries and nato countries indicates

that, in general, the help will now be provided just in time with heavy weapons. i want to remind you of that famous article in the economist magazine that was published at the end of last year by our wolf committee. in principle, i think that she started exactly this process because, well, in general, out of necessity, in this, in this weapon, she is very they see a very large country, but they mentioned it there for example, the chancellor of the dominion, yes, well , literally, literally. last week, the minister of foreign affairs of germany visited kharkiv rather unexpectedly, and even this week, she looked at what the situation was there, and the conclusions were very, very clear that we support ukraine in of the struggle for its freedom. and that means the

russian regime that unleashed this war must be punished. by the way, ukraine is from the west in many countries of the world. a very consolidated position regarding the fact that the political top that made decisions and performed them in relation to the conduct of hostilities in ukraine. she should be responsible for this, so in general, this is what i see such serious trends and changes, let's say geo -strategic changes to our roots, in the struggle for our freedom, both geostrategic and political and economic and military, that 's why the main thing now is to just keep this trend in this direction and in general to continue this work, this is diplomacy first of all, and politics and military economy as well. well, the main thing is that now a lot of things are

being decided on the eastern front near soledar and volodymyr zelenskyi spoke yesterday about the successes of the ukrainian troops and about the situation with how propagandists from russia tried to present their victory or admiration for the soledar and volodymyr zelenskyi in his evening address to the ukrainians. the city was destroyed by the occupiers, no, this is some kind of gain for russia, they will submit it and are already submitting it to their society in order to support the mobilization, to give hope to those who are in favor of aggression, but because it the donetsk direction continues and we are doing everything to strengthen ukrainian defense without interruption, even for one day, our potential

is growing, i thank all our partners who help in this well, the special operations forces of the armed forces of ukraine say that more than a hundred russian soldiers died in battles for soledar, and to eliminate the enemies, the ukrainians used artillery and a tactical missile complex point in ee mr. andriy , considering how the enemy has been trying to take the two cities of soledar and bakhmut for 11 months and is constantly storming and storming these cities . what can you say why the russian federation rested on these two cities and they believe that it is just a matter of principle for them to take soledar and bakhmut well, i think that this corresponds to the philosophy of russian warfare and their

operational art if the task it has been set, it must be fulfilled, and this well, this is not the first time we have seen it. well, we remember in approximately this style the battles for raisin a-and sometime in the spring, also for several months, once the battles for raisin a-a the same thing happened -e and in relation to lysychansk and other cities in the east of ukraine, here in principle, well, their formal task that they set with their troops and advertised again on television was that they ah, well, for the last time such a term applied to the new year they were supposed to go to the administration of the borders of donetsk region and luhansk region, and here they are, well, nothing is going well with them, because, in principle, the

defensive lines are created very reliably, and it was not possible to advance with them, even in the conditions of domination, that's it forces in equipment and firearms. i mean artillery and tactical aviation, here they are at the same time . just then mr. prigozhin came to the rescue, who with his men, wagner, began such conditions of motivational exemptions from punishment of recruitment. here is this er-e pvk bagner, the so -called assault squads. which they are currently carrying out and trying to capture these two cities, and i want to remind you that right now in all these two cities, the majority of these divisions that

were created starting in september and a-and there it is so very strict, let's say so, the discipline in terms of the fact that well, in case of refusal of the offensive, in principle, er, they simply destroy these ot wagner, all their- their own- blocking detachments ot which is behind, so er, ot well, i let's say, er, she can wander a little, but this is the psychology that we perform all the tasks , but she is the reason that they are trying to capture these two places with the second option, maybe it is to lie down our forces and additional ones so that we keep these two places and that's possible

to prepare such strikes. in other directions, we know that they are in the process of mobilizing now, in fact, they are finishing their operations already as part of battalions of the order. there are more than 200,000 mobilized people who can be used as in the zaporizhzhia region. and it is possible somewhere in the north, that 's why this could be another reason. well, again, uh, these processes that are occurring now in russia show that prigozhyn just wants to gain these credits of trust from the authorities, ah, demonstrating that his eyes ah let's say criminal troops, and they are much more effective than regular units

, even the professional armed forces of russia . from the point of view of competitiveness or from the point of view of effectiveness, what does this give russia or does it, on the contrary, create certain conflicts as a result of which we see prigozhin's public accusations against the same gerasimov's stable and now gerasimov begins to lead united forces fighting on the territory of ukraine and now prigozhin finds himself in a very bad situation, well, relatively speaking , now there will be a lot left in his life , including from gerasimov. and really, well, you see, if we talk about the tactical level, then

in principle, well prigozhin can really show that his units, these assault units, they are more effective than the majority of the regular units of the russian army, well, this is all done at the expense of very large losses, because they actually ignore losses, they let their these militants are there very quickly. they are approaching our positions there. well, due to the maneuver, speed and suddenness, they are trying to move forward, but if they are discovered, then thanks to such a powerful defense, they are destroyed very quickly, but they probably have tactical successes it is because, well, these are the principles of war, that is, suddenness, mobility and

maneuverability, they give advantages, but as for a-a, let's say already the issue of the operational or even strategic level, there are really a-a such misunderstandings arise because that well, this behavior of the parishioner really pushes the military leadership away from him a little, on which these assault units also depend in many respects in terms of supply and fire support, and uh, there is the provision of various types of military support, the combat support department, because well, just like that, they also can’t exist, they need intelligence, they need air coverage and artillery cover , and they need medical assistance, logistics, and so on, that is, questions may arise from here, and even here it is possible that a certain

reluctance to communicate and cooperate, it can and can be well, let's say very negative, that's why well, you understand, it's quite like that well, a serious and complex military system , well, it should be, let's say, of the same type, all the more so, it's uh, it's sensitive for the russian army because it is one and very centralized , so uh, it is not different, uh, well, let's say that it is possible to delegate authority and solve uh, some tasks at the lower levels of the military administration, in fact, everything is decided there, uh, individually, or to a very narrow circle of commanders, here it is a very

weak feature of the fact that prigozhin is being asked, firstly, he created his own such a small army, and secondly, he is being asked to play some kind of game that is not very clear. i think the game for the main mass of this russian armed forces is british intelligence p. andriy, what is russia reporting under soledar and flint ? as the british write , we are talking about the units of the 76th guards petrine landing division. well, i will tell you about what is happening now in bakhmut the defender of the city, the witch, about the situation in this direction, glory to ukraine, greetings from the bakhmut fortress, regarding the operational situation for

today, i must say that the defense village has been suspended, the active offensive of the russian troops is very powerful today, our artillery is working very effectively, we are trying to contain the occupying forces as much as possible, many are now falling into the viche from about the soledar about the fact that there is a bypass from the flanks , er, speaking in the language of military science, i want to tell you one thing, what is an advance troops on the flanks, the flanks become very vulnerable, so you don’t need to be seen, the front is big and on the front we are constantly moving 500,000 m back and forth today some positions retreated because we still value the lives of our soldiers, unlike the russians who just use the wagnerites and our units are like cannon fodder

eh, our commanders protect the lives of the military and if there is an opportunity to save it, we will always keep it, this must be understood correctly eh we don't need victory at any cost, we need it victory is such that it will be a victory and not just big mountains. now we are working actively, very actively, not only in this direction, i cannot tell you all the details, but i want to note that the defense forces, the armed forces of ukraine, you can trust them, we will get defense, we control the situation, we understand what is the enemy doing, how is he doing his actions and why is he doing it, and decisions are being made that can block one or another of the occupying forces , all i can say is glory to ukraine glory to our nation glory to our soldiers eh everything will be

well, sometimes in order to win you have to play a gambit. well, this is the situation at the beck and call and the institute for the study of war of the united states of america reports that the inability of the defense industrial base of the russian federation to overcome the shortage of ammunition will prevent the ability to maintain offensive operations in the east of ukraine in 2023 . with this statement of the experts of the institute for the study of war and what according to you can stop the russian army, well, well, and the artillery missile, they are running out er, so this information is no longer new, but er, literally. today i see a message from our general staff that they record

a significant decrease in the amount of enemy artillery use, in fact by 75%, and we know that russia is trying to purchase ammunition in other countries in time there was a conversation about the north and the crimea, they turned to china, they turned to iran about it, that is, well, you see, the fact is that when russia began to restore its status as a superpower, as was the soviet union, then they generally did something it's at the expense of the west, let's say yes, at the expense of the west, they raised their economy, because the measures for them were simply bought at market prices, and they actually increased their defense budget 20 times, and with the same funds,

they began to buy the most developed technological e-e technologies and samples of components for their new equipment. that's what they thought that they would buy it in the west, but when the war in ukraine started and when, in general, after a certain period, let's say analysis, because it was completely clarified what is the reason, this, this, this, this flow of technology and funds, it began to decrease very seriously and this is exactly what can be very serious and already affects very seriously the ability of the russian federation to wage war against ukraine, because the gas and oil that they give, especially oil, actually give