er, the largest military military-political conflict, a military conflict in europe since the second world war, since 2014, the annexation of crimea, and now the formal annexation of the territory that even the russians control in the south, in the east of ukraine - this is also the first example of the annexation of the territory of one state to the territory of another state in europe after 1945, that is, look at the number of refugees, look at the number of troops, look at the amount of suffering, look at the level of war crimes, we have nowhere else to look and look for parallels than the second world war. so this is absolutely clear. it is absolutely clear even if you look at the rhetoric used by both sides of the russian-ukrainian war - this is , on a certain level, an attempt to use the

rhetoric of the second world war. that is, you are fascists, you are not fascists, you behave as fascists, that is, re, the sidewalk of historical memory, the repertoire of historical comparisons leads us one way or another to the second world war, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, that is, it is now devoid of, let's say, that narrow narrow of the radical national sound that was the interwar period, but this is also our attempt to find a so-called usable pass, that is, the past, which may be necessary to help us today, this is again and again the second world war, and the question is for us and for the world whether this war, which until now remains regional, but is so large-scale that it can really become

such a trigger, a harbinger or a trigger for a pan-european or a global conflict, but the parallels are extremely clear, we do not were in a similar situation in europe as a whole since the end of the second world war in 1945. i want to ask you when we talk about the history of the ukrainian people. and now it is such a special moment, for sure, when we look at the historical contribution of various population groups, including those who we count among the ukrainian political , cultural, and scientific elite, whatever it may be, there have always been people who defended the idea of ​​ukrainian sovereignty, self-reliance, the right to its own statehood, the right to its own language and culture, and

there have always been people who, conditionally speaking, wanted take place in the empires, these are parallel processes, conventionally speaking, mykola gogol chose the russian language at about the same historical period when taras shevchenko chose ukrainian, both of them could normally work there, one in russian and the other in ukrainian, that is, they could change places if they had different human and cultural philosophies ukrainians who were part of the imperial apparatus of suppression of everything ukrainian. they are still in the russian federation. there were ukrainians who were primarily part of the russian and then soviet science, and this can be continued for quite a long time, but the most important thing is how we will, over the years, perceive people who consciously worked to ensure that ukraine did not exist and, at the same time, were somehow outstanding representatives of the civilization of the imperial civilization, not

ukrainian, but representatives from memory jailers with busts and museums in ukrainian cities and towns, how will the descendants evaluate the contribution of such people, will we fully perceive ukraine as a state that should honor those who fought for its independence? there will be some country that will not try to find a balance between those who fought for it and those who fought against them, that's why they say we started this conversation with would you live such a word truth historical truth and this is just a very important word a key word quite problematic because it is determined that this is the truth, this is this, this is a process, and sometimes it is not achieved by deriving certain formulas as

a result of joint dialogue and public social consensus, but historians find themselves especially in conditions when there is a public demand for historical knowledge find themselves in a very difficult situation, there are the standards of their own workshop and their own profession, there are the requirements of society, which simply cannot function otherwise, any society cannot function and think about history except mythologically, and this is where the extremely important task of historians is connected with the fact that the social mythology e- it was as far as possible. it was still based on, say, the historical truth , not the historical truth as it is understood and as it is formulated for itself today by a professional professional workshop. well, if you are not based on this truth, this mythology is also

will be very vulnerable and will not last will not last long and here i come to your specific question after this long introduction, that is, there is a question of social perception and social mythology, there is a concept of the concept of some social landmarks of heroes. are these the heroes of ancient greece? is this the glory of heroes who what we are talking about and it sounds again and again and on extreme tvs and social media and so on and so on and in this context, let's say that the same mykola gogol is not provided, but mykola gogol is extremely an important part of ukrainian history is an extremely important part of russian history and the world world. he got into it

through intermediaries in russian, and this is the representation of the completeness of our history. it is extremely important, that is, our history is important when not only hrushevsky is there, but when yuzyfovich is there, who was the initiator of the creation of monuments monument to bohdan khmelnytskyi , who for us today is the personification of ukrainian statehood, the cossack e-e protection of our country, the president presents orders to bohdan khmelnytskyi and so on, but this monument this monument was created on the initiative of yosifovych malorosa, who had a different idea and other representatives, and he started an idea about khmelnytskyi and an idea about khmelnytskyi, why is the mace directed at moscow, is he saying that we need to go there, is he threatening the bridge, that is, these, these interpretive

things continue to stay with us and without this completeness of the representation of this history without this honesty in relation to who we are we will not understand ourselves today and if we do not understand ourselves today it is already a much greater evil too just not understanding history this means that we will misunderstand our trajectory and we will incorrectly form our steps for tomorrow and not the day after tomorrow. so here there is a dialectical relationship between e-e history as a science and the completeness of this science and the mythological way of thinking of society, but you understand that in the situation in which we are not talking about the situation of crimes in russia, these bombings, killed rape, this, that, which became the facts of this war, but, as i said, also in an atmosphere of disappointment in russia, in all of russia, people for whom ten years

russian culture, language and history, by the way , were the air they breathed, and those people are now also clear. they are trying to distance themselves from all of this. doesn't allow you to do it just today and now it 's absolutely clear, that is, well, imagine a person who is undergoing an operation and they took painkillers from her and started talking about what is right and what is wrong in this body, that is, this this is us now, we are now a society that is in a situation in a situation of survival, but these processes end and end and everything

will take its own time. i absolutely agree with you , and the time will come to also look at how we ended up where we ended up and that what is with us with us is and remains despite the fact that we can somehow somehow block it and say that we do not have it, it is there, it must be understood, it must be spoken , spoken like this for today, but but it is very important here press this button to pause and not on the delete button and tell mr. serhiy , russia over the course of 100 years said they created a historical narrative for ukraine, including a historical negative for ukraine itself, and there may be a situation when in the future ukraine will create certain historical narratives for russia itself, at least regarding the perception of ukraine, poland at large the account can create a

historical meeting in poland, which is listened to by the russians finland can create a historical meeting in finland, which is listened to by the russians 50-60 years ago , none of this was practically possible is created, that is, one of the requirements that is put forward to any historical national narrative, it is not only its acceptance and perception or imposition with the help of propaganda inside the country, but it is also its recognition by its neighbors, that is, or by the world community, and in order for the russian or any - who, whether ukrainian or of any other birth, met these requirements, and he was recognized by the neighbors. he must be in dialogue, in contact with these neighbors and with these narratives that are created there, that is, whether he can

poland should write a narrative for russia and in fact it will become a russian one, no, but can russian narratives function normally for a longer period of time without taking into account how ukraine-poland views russia, and so on, and so on , and not enter into a war in a conflict with these neighbors, no, that is he must he must take it and he must listen to it and one more historical historical well, let's say a precedent er problem and issues can also be a tragedy of ukraine in that this narrative of the great russian nation was created by ukrainians for russians , they created it in kyiv kievo-grave- i apologize in the kiev-pechersk lavra, it was called a synopsis because it was published in 1674 under the

guidance of the archimandrite of the lavra, innokenty gieser , and it was transmitted a large number of times. it became the first printed textbook of russian history of the entire russian empire of the 18th century. its reader, supporter, and popularizer was mykhailo mykhailo lomonosov , and this adviser put kyiv, the center of russian history, is partially experienced by us, that is, we pay according to the bills of the 17th century. we have to once again rewrite russian history and offer them a different vision, a different way of thinking, with kyiv no longer at the center of this history , but with kyiv as the center of a separate state of consciousness, culture, identity, if on

civilization his last articles for the magazine prostospectei, then in the former secretary of state of the united states, gen. called ukraine the most influential country in central europe. this is the first time in my memory. when ukraine is generally called a central european country, you now perceive ukraine as a part of central europe. serhiy, i perceive ukraine as a part of central europe, but it all depends on what kind of map we put on which map, that is, over the past few months, ukraine has become central european and a european state in many respects from the formal -e is applying to become a member of the european union to the fact that we are, well, probably the most integrated nato country in the world, even compared to

nato countries, because all of them still fight with their national standard, we have mastered the standards of many, many nato countries. that is this is what happened and what kissinger is actually recording today, what kissinger says is extremely important because it speaks not only about the evolution personally, where was it for him when he wrote about the end of the soviet union ? balance of power in this world and so on, all these small countries, even such as poland, not to mention ukraine , only caused some kind of irritation in kissinger and his parts , that is, they confused a big big big game big picture big shots what kissinger is saying today this means that extremely important processes of rethinking

have taken place in the world and for this rethinking there is only one reason, this is ukraine, the ukrainian people and ukrainian opponents, ukraine will remain a frontier country, in fact a country on the border between worlds and civilizations, do you still hope that one day this european democratic civilization can expand to the east, it is difficult to say now, but ukraine has always been such a dream of many will remain on the border but there are various different ideas about the border, i.e. from the frontier to to the border to the front line ukraine was located throughout most of its history as an independent state in the syria zone, and what this war brings is actually the elimination of gray zones in europe in the center or in the

east of europe, this applies not only to ukraine , it also applies to moldova, to a certain extent, we can talk about belarus, because there were also corresponding hopes, this war will actually lead to uh, the chances are extremely large that it will actually lead to some form of reproduction of the iron curtain, the iron curtain is a situation in which the gray areas do not exist or almost do not exist, well, that is, there was finland, there was yugoslavia, but in principle, the symbol of this iron curtain is the berlin wall and this is one of the consequences of the war, as i see it , the disappearance of these gray zones and the finding of ukraine clearly on the western side of this new border, which will be formed, this border situation

is much more, let's say, much safer more productive for ukraine than that existence in a hole in that series of geopolitical zones that existed until today . so, then ukraine will really become the gateway to europe from your book. and it is like the meaning that i put in the gate of europe that it is not only not only a fortress, that is, gates gates open and close, and what i see for the future is such a closed gate , but my metaphor is again related to the fact that gates open and close , it is extremely important for me who makes

this decision or whether this gate is closed and are opened by ukrainians and are we opening or closing, taking into account our own ideas of what should happen or are we being manipulated by someone else? that is, this is even the most important and even more important question for me than whether it is closed today or whether it is open completely for cultural, social , social, and so on. of contacts are you sure that the ukrainians already have this key in their hands, it is it is actually what is happening today in ukraine in the world, there is only one reason for this, for these events, and that is uh, it sounds like pathos, pathetic and so on, but these are the processes

that are taking place in ukraine, this is the will of the ukrainian people, that is, they absolutely waved their hands at us in 2013, when yanukovych refused to sign the working conditions of the association with the european union. europe, with the silence of the united states of america, pushed us as hard as it could to sign - before the actual implementation of the minsk agreements according to steinmeier's formula, europe and the world and the world were in no hurry to help us militarily and so on before the start of the war. i didn't know how the ukrainian people would behave, the ukrainian government, the ukrainian president, the ukrainian army, about which few people knew what we do changes not only our lives, it changes the world as a whole, and again, it may sound

hmm too pathetic, but i just can't find other words for in order to describe the processes that have been taking place over the last ten months. historical, however, you can say so in the good sense of the word, because historians, it seems to me, also need positive events, just like us journalists of ukraine, join in these wishes and p vitaliy for you and for for the audience, listeners thank you and you, dear viewers, i wish you a happy new year and christmas holidays i want to wish first of all a peaceful year, it is important for all of us, only you are the best

, see this week in the program of collaborators, the list of miklushka, who passed mariupol and how to grow up, they celebrated may 9 on the bones of killed people exchanged the motherland i appeal to the married forces of ukraine, come, it is necessary sasha and the swan song of bandura's collaborator, for which the mayor of sviatohirsk received suspicion, every war gives birth to heroes unfortunately for the hopeless, there is also a special project of the espresso tv channel, collaborators, miklushka's list, i am talking about the most despicable, about those who not only betrayed their the state and the people and began to serve the occupiers in this issue of collaborators from the

donetsk region, the anti-leader in terms of the number of deputies of traitors in donetsk region is the mariupol city council, a city that presented us with heroes from azovstal, a city that was repulsed with great blood by ukrainian defenders in 2014, a city into which the state and private business have invested billions of hryvnias over the past 8 years, and a completely destroyed city for the residents of which the rashists have set up filtration camps, just teeming with collaborators, nine deputies at once the city councilors from the opzh swore allegiance to the russian fascist regime aghibov valery, a local businessman, co-owner of the company tavriya, engaged in the sale of food products, real estate rental and motor vehicle repair burlakov serhiy , an eternal servant of darkness and all that is evil, first he was elected to the district council from the party of regions, then he failed in the elections under the party's banner, our region is now a businessman with a mandate from the regional police, he is engaged in the construction

business, motor vehicle repair, he helps the residents of mariupol to secure professional unemployment , olena karpenko from mariupol the facial features of this deputy do not mislead you, after the full-scale invasion, this representative handed over the personal files of the employees of cultural institutions to the occupation administration mariupol is about addresses, passport numbers , employment records and mobile phone numbers. the mariupol city hall accused a deputy of high treason. this is what was reported about karpenko in the security service of ukraine. the perpetrator took on the niche of patriotic education. karpenko is currently under the leadership of the occupiers . karpenko is responsible for agitating local residents by organizing separatist and pro-russian groups. of mass events in this photo, natalya sotnikova is also unemployed, also a collaborator about her and a few more rigs from mariupol, the legitimate city council wrote the following

they did not just support the occupiers, but acted as informers for the enemy army and actually corrected the shelling of critical civilian infrastructure from the first days of the war, the occupiers destroyed the city's life support facilities, communal enterprises and equipment, food and medicine warehouses with targeted fire. city ​​and create a humanitarian catastrophe among the traitors of mariupol and yevhen kharmyshev, who served for himself the post of secretary from the rashists of the occupying council, and dmytro khadzhinov was named by the occupiers as the deputy head of the hupole for housing and housing affairs. and this is viktoria kalacheva, who before the full-scale invasion of russia was an atypical mp from the people's republic of ukraine, because she had a job managing an art school and a modeling agency, and after the arrival of the occupiers, she became the entire deputy of the self-proclaimed mayor

of the city, as befits such i sincerely congratulated the activists on the may 9 march on the streets of devastated mariupol, where the bodies of innocently killed ukrainians lay yesterday they believe that the most important and most patriotic event should take place this year on may 9, of course. and what else could the residents of an occupied, destroyed city without electricity, water and gas, without medicines and other basic necessities expect? parades until may 9 solve all problems and the cities are rebuilding and bringing back to life thousands of those who lie in mass graves, and vadim istratov, the owner and director of the alligator enterprise, who was entrusted by the rashists with managing financial issues , became another deputy pseudo-mayor mariupol and the main figure, a collaborator from the municipal council in mariupol kostyantyn and vashchenko, his

invaders appointed him the head of the city, he has been in politics for a long time, back in 2010, he came to the city council as a deputy from the party of regions, in the 15th he tried to get into the council for the second time, but already from the party of our region, however i didn’t collect votes, i won back the mandate in 2020 already from the russian armed forces, and just now russian troops occupied mariupol and vashchenko went to work closely with them, i am contacting the korzhei forces of ukraine, the national system has a metal department itself and there are many kostyantyn and vashchenko tells how the russians are soldiers and the terrorist dpr feed mariupol people, i.e. first they invaded with their troops, destroyed the city, created a humanitarian crisis, and then gave out loaves of ukrainian bread and made several interesting videos for

the propagandist moscow tv , it’s just interesting when we win back the entire donbas together with mariupol, moscow, primy himself these traitors from the police and will issue the same positions somewhere in the swamps or just throw them away as used junk to this list of collaborators, one more should be added an ex-deputy of the mariupol city council, but this time from the servant of the people it is about serhiy kosenko, he was entrusted with the position of head of the legal service in one of the occupation district administrations for treason , and the deputy of the liman city council, oleksandr tokarchyk, also ex-regional and later a member of the opposition bloc , also added to my list. during the issuance of the so-called humanitarian aid, the russo- fascists appointed the mayor of the estuary, because the traitor has management experience, he was the director of the local water supply company. finally , volodymyr bandura is the head of the infamous sviatohirska in the donetsk region is infamous

because sviatohirsk and its monastery were for decades a spiritual outpost of the russian world in donbas sviatohirska bandura became a burgomaster of sviatohirska bandura thanks to the support of natalya royal yury boyk and other people. after all, until june 1st, the man ran his facebook page in ukrainian, calling the rashists occupiers, it would seem that he is talking about the ukrainian position, but the network is full of of his video messages in the style of russian propagandists, where he accuses the armed forces of ukraine of unprecedented stories, the nazis kill holy priests, monks, and hoard the following facts: all the organs of the armed forces of the armed forces of ukraine looting, looting, svyatohorsk under the leadership of bandura came under the control of the racist troops on june 7, after which the

leader of the occupation administration of donetsk region , denys pushylin published in his telegram a joint photo with volodymyr bandura against the background of the tricolor, this is similar to the swan song of bandura's collaborator, the state bureau of investigation opened against the mayor of sviatohorsk criminal proceedings under the article of high treason this was the list of miklushka for next wednesday i will tell you about another dozen traitors and if there are collaborators in your city, write to me on facebook or to this e- mail, we will make these scoundrels famous together, we will meet in exactly a week about what are we saying today, what is happening in soledar in the destroyed city as seen on satellite images and prigozhin against gerasimov, how the war in ukraine showed conflicts among the russian security forces and what role

wagner's mercenaries play