who are supposed to work for the people of ukraine and our armed forces, well, it’s interesting, then we’ll wait for information, by the way, i want to say that neither about mrs. ivanna, the border service will make public any, conduct any internal investigation, make public any summary of this investigation in general, but so far there is no well, myself ivanna promised to tell the truth, but so far she has not responded, as has her manager, serhiy mul. the lawyers are also preparing lawsuits. regarding this information about the passport, thank you very much maksym kostetskyi the lawyer of the legal adviser, we talked about what is happening in the state border service, we will monitor the situation in soledar so as not to miss anything, subscribe to the pages of radio svoboda on the internet, and svoboda life will be back on the air tomorrow,

i barely found a working store in three letters , it is closed, there is no light, please please, this bouquet is lucky. in our country, it does not disappear. so the generator on the street is humming. ukrainian veterans background money, the fund helps veteran enterprises, i wonder what is needed for this, but only fop and ubd, for example how about my husband and i family business up to uah 20,000 they give it, i understand. thank you very much for the bouquet of support for the ukrainian veteran business, get the details now on

the website or by phone number. our team on the ground and in the studio will inform you about the dynamics of events. see the latest from frantz 24 in ukrainian on espresso. i am iryna koval, mother, wife, presenter of the espresso tv channel. i am also a volunteer of our soldiers at the front need a lot of things every day, and that is why part of my life today is to help the armed forces of ukraine and i am very grateful to my colleagues for supporting me in this, of course, for a tv host, the main job is to inform people as disgustingly as possible, as truthfully as possible, now this is the most important information about the war, the war has entered

the lives of each of us and we want one victory , we are working hard to win special help is what you do with your own hands and it will go to the front line, it will save the lives of our soldiers. everyone of you can help. even a small contribution to support the army saves the lives of our soldiers and brings our victory closer. let's talk about canada, at the beginning of the full-scale invasion of russia against ukraine, about 100,000 ukrainians, our compatriots, who were forced to leave ukraine because of the war, ended up there, and you know

different stories, the fate of these people was different. but there are successful cases. and here is today's my heroine, she was really able to build a career in canada, got a job at the canadian parliament, met twice in person with the prime minister of canada, justin trudeau. and also what it is important that she managed to preserve her personal relationship with her beloved husband, who spends most of the time in ukraine and is a volunteer of today's program anna lachikhina ani congratulations hello good evening to each other glad to hear thank you very much for joining the live stage of the program refugees, i note that now it is five in the morning in ottawa, i, anya, woke up at 4 in order to be able to prepare and be on time for the broadcast, thank you, my only joy, thank you for

inviting us, traditionally, we always start a conversation with my heroes about how they encountered a full-scale invasion russia, and on february 24, tell your story. on february 24, my fiancee maxim dzhigun and i were in my apartment and in the morning i heard explosions since the very morning. it seemed to me in a dream that it was possible that someone was descending february. i thought that it could be be the beginning of the war but i her i tried to reject it and friends stayed at our place, and around 6:30 in the morning, apparently , our friend quietly enters our bedroom and says, don’t worry, but then the war was fought. absent-mindedness, they immediately turned on the tv, the radio , everything in order to hear at least some instructions and to understand

what was happening from which direction, what was coming, well, but the first couple of days were spent in our underground parking lot in the residential complex, and then they are already moving. and for a couple days, we decided that it would be safer for us to go to the zhytomyr region with our family. well, from there we already started our movement in the direction of chernivtsi, where we spent and then i spent the next one and a half months. and how did you end up in canada, thousands of kilometers away from my native home in canada, the decision to go to canada arose literally two weeks before sending to canada of course it seemed well, it is very far and it was not clear how to live there, on what kind of preservation, because we have our

own business in ukraine we are engaged communications, consulting, lobbying , let's say at the beginning of the war, several of our clients . interned in 2019 and coordinated this program together with the founder all the following years and the founder of this program is canadian he has been sponsoring the program for 31 years or is looking for additional funds are an older person - this is his own initiative as he tries to help ukraine and at that moment he decided that all he could do at that moment was at least bring 40 girls and 40 girls to canada for an internship program, a large group

including me er, we came to canada to intern in the parliament, but i am sure that there was a long line of applicants, first of all, because it is generally very interesting for the experience of interning in the canadian parliament, but also because of the war. i think it also increased the number of applicants, how exactly did you manage to get in, did you use some connections, is it possible that it doesn’t work like that in this program? well, it doesn’t work like that, everyone who took part in it was selected, this is an interview with the founder, and several other tasks, and all the people who got into the program these are not random people, they chose, let's say, this is their place for several, they chose this place for several years ago, because of the pandemic, the program stopped in 20-21, and that's why this entire collective group of 20-21 and 22

went to canada er in may well me i personally came a little earlier in april because , um, because of the large number of people who planned to go, uh, and i already had a visa to canada at that time, a work visa, because we went with political and business tours to canada, organized for people, public figures for politicians, that's why i had a visa at the time, and the founder asked me to come earlier to help coordinate such a huge group, and i was then involved in buying tickets for them, and then when they arrived, organizing all the documentation to be here to get everything necessary for you to start an internship, that's why, of course, there could be many willing people, but these are selected people who deserve this place in this program. i am also sure that after completing the

internship, not all of them managed to get a job and stay working in the canadian parliament, how did you manage it and i think that it was also if it was right to be in the right place at the right time and definitely the experience that i had behind my shoulders professional experience er almost 10 years of professional activity in the field of political communications, including government communications, and that is why i interned in the office of a liberal deputy who at that time was looking for an assistant adviser in her office and who would be able to work longer than the internship program, say, a couple of months ago. she offered me to stay, i got this e contract and remained in the position

of senior adviser on communications uh, and this is what we are actually dealing with this deputy, she is also the head of the committee on international trade and ukraine is everywhere on the agenda, including in this committee, so for me it is also an opportunity, let's say, to help correctly understand the context of what is happening in ukraine and to choose the right solutions for us, especially at this time anya but it seems to me at least that the principles of parliamentarism in ukraine and in canada are different and the law-making process also probably goes through completely different stages or maybe i'm wrong, i mean that you had so much experience in communications and cooperation with people's deputies there with other officials in ukraine, but maybe in canada it stands out because it's strange that they took ukrainka, but this one is also great, of course, it's different, but it's

definitely possible here, not without new things, that is, of course, there is a lot to learn, but the principle of the state's action and the principle of decision-making are very similar. because the parliament, well, in general, canada is like that, it’s an established democracy, let’s say yes, our politics are even more complicated than in canada, because here everything changes very quickly, our politics is very reactive. we have a lot of crisis management almost every day especially now, but even before that e hmm and a in canada, after all, everything is more stable, more measured everything has its own rules for everything er, as i say when i tell friends and introduce colleagues that there is a book for everything yes, not everything has

its own instructions you just need to know where to look for these rules, you need to know the right people, you need to be sociable, in canada, there is a two- parliamentary parliament, and i work in the house of commons, this is the lower weather of the representatives, there was a process of adopting bills, for example, it is also three-level yes u there are them too three readings but they still have hearings in committees, hearings in committees are a little different from ours, they approach this for the first time very openly, most of the committees are broadcast publicly and every citizen can see it, and secondly, their interaction with the public is a little different they have such a concept as the hearing of witnesses, and this, in the understanding of witnesses , includes business representatives on the issue that is trying to be adopted and considered by the committee, or it is representatives of the government, or representatives of diplomatic institutions, or it

representatives of public organizations, that is, the interaction of the parliament and the government, yes, at the same time , because they are parliamentarians in canada, and they do not have a separate legislative and executive branch . but all this, all this is my experience , here i am, now i can simply say that i do not do anything that i would not do in ukraine , that is, everything that i did in ukraine. interested parties, you will call us as it is customary to say, to interact with the media , to organize events, to organize international events

. i was there as a press secretary, that is, it's all very hmm, if the geography is different, other people, maybe where the order is different, but the principle of action, let's say he is, he is the same, that's why experience here played an important part, of course, it's great, of course, it's interesting that listen to what distinguishes elected representatives of the people in canada, because in fact in ukraine we sometimes see such negative examples and attitudes towards their employees there, such as advisers or assistants, and towards the common people, and every people's deputy is distinguished, some communicate with the common people and others she doesn't even go to her district, but what about the deputy with whom you work with a woman, right, right, i understood right, right, right, this is my deputy - this is a

woman, and this is... hmm, she was the former minister of emigration in 2004 or 2005. was the minister of emigration in canada, she also has a lot of experience behind her shoulders, she is not her first term in parliament, and if i am wrong , she is not the first, one of the first women, at least in canada, having been in this elected position for so long. why this became possible, her success is that she really pays a lot of attention to her district. and in general, all parliamentarism, all canadian politics, it is built on very close interaction with its voters, and this is also connected with the financing of the party, of course financing of candidates who are elected every time and have to find if they are

fundraisers, yes, they are forced to collect this money, and to run for office, let's say, in their district, that's why they are forced to keep this connection, and it's not that they do it because power is the way politics works here, it's just part of their work and canadian canadian mps are always on weekends and sometimes earlier. if someone flies to another part of the country, you know. well, maybe we don't fully realize it, but canada is a huge country it is more or more part of this northern continent in their country as well or seven or six or time zones. it is very similar to the usa, but because of the fact that the population of canada is 10 times smaller here, the population is 35 million, and aviation connections are so developed .

as in the usa, it is therefore difficult for many deputies to get back to their own because if he lives on the west coast, say somewhere in vancouver, it takes a very long time and that is why they sometimes fly out even on thursday evening, thursday, friday, they necessarily spend the weekend in the district, they meet with their e-e supporters. we, they meet with public organizations. politics in some draft law in some decision or the need to allocate additional money from the budget, then of course they always come to their deputy, then either to the deputy or over coffee and talk about it present their problem or their need and

this is a mutually beneficial constant exchange and the process is in terms of communication and help in making the right decisions, but the process can be done by the audience if you think about the transparency of lobbying and communication, i will immediately warn you about the question or prejudice that may arise, lobbying here is also regulated by legislation, this a very transparent, clearly defined process, that's why the established rules are in effect here and for the canadian society. for example , lobbying - this is a normal process - this a process is needed and a fairly established understanding of the industry and its respect and even well , unlike ukraine, we do not have any legislation on lobbying and our lobbying always has such a negative tone , although in fact it is possible to lobby and there are very good

initiatives that are needed people, but we still have to grow before that, i hope that such wonderful specialists as you will also bring this wonderful experience to our parliamentarians and we will eventually improve. and in this sense, there was a meeting with justin labor twice meeting with the prime minister of canada and even managed to give him a bracelet for growing up in december of last year. why exactly? this bracelet, what kind of symbolism was put into it? how did the meeting go? maybe some agreements were made. promises were heard. yes, it was a really bright, bright meeting. first of all , and secondly, she has beaten several while i have been here in the parliament since may.

teachers, they have such an opportunity here, they identify their bright and talented teachers in each district, and there i had the opportunity to briefly meet with them, get to know them, shake hands, say that i came from ukraine and now work in the parliament, and to thank him, his government, his team for all the support that canada has provided to ukraine since the first days of our invasion of the plan of a large-scale invasion of our country, not for the last meeting, it was on december 15. it was all such a general winter holiday, let's say the congress of the liberal party takes place every year, except for the years when there was a pandemic and everything was closed. at that time , together with my fiance, he is engaged in building our business in ukraine in parallel. he has also been involved in volunteer activities since the beginning of the war. he mainly works with an american foundation, but this time he

came to canada, he had meetings here, and we went to that judo meeting together, and it was maximov’s idea to present him with a bracelet as a symbol of ukrainian resilience and as a reminder that the struggle in our country continues and despite that, the channel that canada united takes, if the leadership position was given to help ukraine both in the financial part and in military support, to remind them once again just not to give up and keep going he knew for three days to help us. he certainly knows what azovstal is about. if he had infiltrated this place with this gift, he thanked us and said that we should expect very good news very soon. and actually, recently there were several of those those statements about the same thing, who will buy us

the united states, of course we will what we just mentioned about the closing of the sky over ukraine and he said that very soon wait for good news and actually we waited for them now yes 300 million dollars, if i am not mistaken, canada will allocate for the purchase of anti-aircraft missile systems and missiles for them, and separately, another 500 million dollars of military aid will be allocated, but it is not specified here. and this is from the latest news and what kind of aid is included there, and that is without humanitarian aid, there are still millions of tons humanitarian aid was also allocated to canada. and first, a full-scale invasion and a total of 3.5 billion canadian dollars in aid was given to us, ani, but i can't help but ask, uh, it sounds so large-scale, but in your opinion, is this the maximum that canada can do, or are they like the united states

of america is still watching the successes of the ukrainian defenders at the front and, depending on this, continues to increase or decrease aid there. so far, we have seen increasing delays. i cannot say what these delays are, some are significant, but there are various rich and different facts, in particular for canada, for example, the participants in the labor day , especially after february 24, it has a great emphasis on restoring canada's position as an international leader, because they have a lot of stories related to the first world war, the second world war, when they sent their help to the fronts to fight for the europeans on the european continents and they are proud of this moment in history and now they would feel their mission again.

politics, well, now according to a sociological survey, the majority of canadians believe that it is neglect of internal problems and because of high inflation, because of everything that is happening in ukraine, where the supply chains are broken, because of the prices of oil and gas , because of all the problems that we hear about every day in the news is related, including or primarily, to the fact that russia has decided to attack aggressively in our country , uh, the cost of living in canada is growing very high, uh, a lot of people are now in a very short-term situation, you can to say well, the poverty line is very high due to the high flow of migration from canada , housing prices have risen a lot, and that is, domestically , there are turbulences, so all these

federal expenditures, which go especially to international aid, are sometimes perceived with such a screeching tone in society the government has to balance it because of the fact that canada has a very large diaspora and in every district of the deputy, almost every deputy has a community of ukrainians, who has more, who has less community of ukrainians, it is their duty, yes, it is their duty to help us because their this is encouraged by their voters as well, so canada will remain the unequivocal leader in all aid and will do everything possible or could more maybe could er but again because of all these balancing factors if they try not to forget about those who led to this government as well. by the way, there are no longer such negative attitudes among local residents

due to the fact that they are in a difficult situation, and ukraine needs to be helped, and there is no such attitude of rhetoric that perhaps there is no need to help there so much financially because we ourselves are barely surviving here, because such theses are heard in germany, for example , they can be isolated, isolated theses, of course, they are like any country, especially they also arise against the background of comparing yes and parallel programs for forced migrants or, let's say, refugees from afghanistan , who receive much less help, well, for some objective reasons, in terms of fighting for their country, that is, we are talking exclusively about the relocation of those who can leave and who cooperated with canada well, there is it has its own peculiarities, that’s why

such theses occasionally appear, uh, but the general line of the political community in all parties and, in principle, the population in general, is in support of ukraine constantly in the news, only in support of countries in the newspapers that we receive and i see in the office and in general of the press that circulates of course, this is all in support of ukraine and condemnation of condemnation of russia, i.e. everyone understands this need, so you can say that everyone is unanimous, so we have nothing to worry about in terms of aid to ukrainian refugees. by the way, she withheld this aid or not, because you flew under the program and i flew in first with my business visa, but it expired in the middle of the summer, so i had to fall under this program, which is for ukrainians, and all those who did internships all had

to get a work permit for work. which is also included in this general program, a special one issued by canada for ukrainians, so yes. currently , i am here under a special canadian program for forced migrants from ukraine, a one-time correct payment in and in what amount is it, yes, payment a one-time payment of 3,000 canadian dollars is um something like two and a half thousand us dollars eh if i'm not mistaken well viewers can google the exchange rate to find out more but yes it's a one-time assistance some provinces i know they also allocate separate assistance for ukrainians need to apply for this through the city councils and write to them to ask, no, not in all provinces,

i know it is, but in some, in some, it is in different sizes, depending on the situation, the presence of children in the family, and everything else. for ukrainians, now two and a half sounds cool thousands of dollars because we have well, not many people can earn such a salary there , and even more so. we are not talking about pensions, social benefits, but i don't know how much it is for canada. it is a significant amount. what is the minimum standard of living there? in canada, the standard of living, the cost of living is quite high, especially considering inflation, all these processes, e.g., inflation, the cost of housing, the cost of medical services, for example, there are dental services, the cost of child care is quite high and it is big burden on families therefore, canada now

also makes a lot of payments