in order to forestall our possibility of a counterattack, which they are very afraid of, because if ours really succeeds in the direction of melitopol in the direction of the sea of ​​azov, this is actually the key to the liberation of not only the south and the crimea, and probably the key to the victory in this war, sir viktor, a little bit about belarus and we heard russian rockets flying at us from the territory of belarus at the very beginning, why at a certain point this practice was postponed, so to speak, pushed to the background, why are we being bombarded with a fairy tale somewhere in the rostov region from the territory of the black sea water area, but not from belarus, from belarus, two main, er, two main types flew in from belarus, this is a dagger, which was based on the measurements of 31 feet, and this is iskander, and the

scandals are over. and there are very few standards. and uh, the iskanders are, after all, possible carriers of these tactical nuclear weapons, and they must somehow be preserved, at least a few tens of them. it is as if they are present there, but they can no longer shoot with them just like blanks, uh, daggers are a very expensive missile, and they only have one missile carrier left, well, there were four of them. look, in literally just a few months, that one fell there, that one, and then the engine burned out and from those four that were in those and these are special planes that were once developed by the soviet union for special e-e special actions and special operations in the arctic, they

really have a lot of such forty on a large scale, at that time they probably did not know how to deal with them to cope because it was a completely different line and it turned out that it was they who could carry those missiles , i.e. kinzhariv, there is also not much that they can do, they can make uh, the airfield of some kind of jump, but they say that they are actively modernizing shelters there or what the hell this airfield is old e in order to be able to land strategic bombers there, but strategic bombers are a problem, the problem is in missiles, not in uh, in these planes, they uh, they are forced to launch them from the surface because part of these missiles is up to 10%, they are just actually fall and if they did not fall over the sea and well, and we don’t even know if there was a launch

or not, we know for sure that some rockets fall on their territories, but there was a tax rocket that fell, it was just one of those rockets that simply did not reach of ukraine, and maybe there are more of them, please don’t say, that is, part of the rockets and they are forced to launch these rockets over uninhabited territories so as not to fall on their own, and it is primarily used by castes that are more convenient for launching these rockets that's all. that's why belarus has now fallen out of such an active, enter our space, they are very afraid, especially when the patriots will be deployed in poland on our border on the border with ukraine, when the petriv division will appear in ukraine. so i suspect that he will most likely cover kyiv, eh. i think that entering our space, understanding what awaits them here, they are simply

very well, they reacted extremely painfully to two moments, that is, it is about the airfield of the wengeli strategic aviation - that was one moment yes, and everyone started talking about a gloriously glorious swift that would have flown as if there, well, in fact, maybe something else had flown to our, so to speak, kind and experienced engineers could have collected something. well, the second moment is makiivka, that is, the stories are extremely serious and they began to react, in particular, to what is being said about samara, because a significant part of those world-mobilized russian interventionists who died in makiivka were samara itself, but now they even hide there in portions two by three by four by five, i.e. stretching, i.e. they don't record them, so to speak, in this makiiv story, well, accordingly, maybe we should come up with something else

to make them react, of course, we are talking about conventional stories from the other side. we were hoping for long-range missiles, the same attacks, so instead, we are we see that what we needed without a doubt, that is, in particular, we are talking about the story with additional high-mars and so on and so on there are the patriot systems well, it is not yet known when the trained personnel will be prepared well, and the story of the machine tools, i would like to ask you that it would be worth how to play correctly so that our allies, partners, friends, i don't know how we are in the status of our relationship with them at the present moment, become more active, how can we make it so that they really understand that armor is this is all you need to understand that they, they know everything we don't have to do anything. they know their internal problems there, and the problem is very simple. the abramses don't

want to give because, er, because they don't want to , because america doesn't enter. that 's what happens directly, even after highmars. well, you know the argument that they are very difficult, it is difficult to master them after the whole abrams division is actually deployed , the polish abrams division on the border with belarus, well, that’s just not an argument, i don’t think that the polish tankers there are more skilled than ours well, that's it, that's it, it's not like that, they and our climate are the same, now it's energomed, why can they work in the polish climate in ours? no, they're high-tech, it's difficult to maintain them. there's an engine actually from a helicopter. there's a gas turbine. the engine is similar to the one used in helicopters, and it requires a completely different fuel, which needs to be kept in

different containers, and refueled there under completely different conditions, that is, there are really a lot of nuances and they had huge problems with this abrams v v v during a desert storm, because there is dust all over there and it is not really such a thing, we have airplanes just like that, the airplanes will not be transferred there, we need a whole scheme of their maintenance, repair there and so on, although he has the fact that abramsiv is not of new but older generations, there are thousands of open areas and they are stored, they can be restored and transferred to ukraine and the issue of political yes , this is a political issue with german tanks

is much more complicated why is that so much? europe has 427 tanks that can be seized somewhere and sold to ukraine, and this despite the fact that somewhere there must be a period of time to prepare them for their transfer. that is, it can stretch to the moon, so-and-so. the situation, well, on the other hand, we see that the poles are not lost either and have agreed with whom south korea, which owns the franchise, has agreed and there is nothing. south korean tanks are starting to be active. now they will launch this for south korea. by the way, this is a very huge contract who is actually there saving that plant because they, uh, they didn't know whether they should disassemble this plant or sell it to someone, what to do with it, and when the contract came, uh, from the poles,

it's a job for them for years, i think that the poles will come to the point that they will bring part of the production to themselves, because every country that wants to have a main tank wants to have not only a repair base, but actually to assemble it on its territory, so it was with india and with pakistan and with other countries, by the way, about pakistan in fact, information has appeared that we can count on the supply of ammunition and 150 mm and smaller caliber from this country. an alternative is a good parallel process when we not only ask for help from our western partners, but also look for exits to asia and the middle east, in your opinion. if this story becomes systemic, if of course it is not yet, because we understand that the main information is still not public so

how powerful is this source of what we need not only pakistan, i am talking about a little closer to here, for example, turkey, which has certain stocks of soviet -type cluster munitions, for example. well, i think that writing if decorations are necessary suspended because it was in fact an informational provocation because it is very easy to blame ukraine now for the use of ammunition that is prohibited by conventions and to say that you see they are going to all that only there to achieve something well it was so very so terrible it will not be very pleasant yes and at the expense of the fact that turks, since the 14th year, turkey has repeatedly brought up to our leadership with a proposal to build a certain number of modular plants for

e-e on the deployment of production here in ukraine of ammunition of various calibers starting from automatic pistols of some such sub- caliber some things and ending with the deployment of ammunition production of serious such calibers, i don’t know why uh ukraine and we probably all know but these are ours these are our moments and what else will come of it, you know, it ends very regrettably and already for 8 years we see what we see. we don't have production of our own that would really cover our needs. pakistan is a great alternative there, eh, at the same time, we will not count with them so much in terms of funds, but rather help in

repair and maintenance of helicopters, of which there are a significant number of uh, also soviet -made and post-soviet uh-uh, the same system, well, they have the same problem with tanks of our production, that is, those repair teams who can go there and help. it is much cheaper and better than live funds that we ourselves need. and the fact that we will receive a lot of ammunition from them is only a plus. thank you, mr. generals. viktor yagun , major general of the security service of ukraine in reserve, deputy head of the security service of ukraine in the 14th and 15th years in our studio. we are now asking our new guests to loop our conversation with reports from the press service of prigozhyn, the leader of the wagner

pvc . can cause our intraspecies struggle, corruption, bureaucracy and officials who want to stay in their places, this is more serious now than the existence of the wagner pvk, for example, recently in the means of mass information, active work is being done to ban the word combination of the wagner communist party, not to pronounce it in the voice, to avoid it in every possible way, like hell, they constantly try to steal the victory from the wagner communist party and talk about the presence of someone who is unclear, in order to humiliate their merits, we are now adding taras batenko, people's deputy of ukraine, and volodymyr to our marathon onion of a political expert. glory to ukraine, gentlemen. we welcome you to the floor . the psg is the right decision, he says that they are unworthy to be people's deputies. so , boyko supported it, you understand, well, i'm trying

to read it even neurotically. people's deputy boyko supported the removal of the mandates of his former colleagues from the police department, medvedchuk, cossack derkach and kuzmin. we understand how difficult the path was before that, but i want to thank you for this is mr. taras, what were the undercurrents in this extremely high-profile case, yes, there was also criticism, there was also natural support from our population, and the criticism was reduced to that well, it is possible that by depriving them of their citizenship, so to speak, they can avoid responsibility, so to speak, in particular from our themis taras batenko, well, what i want to say is that it is obviously possible, it needs deputies, he has four of the directly listed members by faction, he respects one majoritarian as a shareholder in relation to deprivation of

their mandates, but we are talking about this faction of the former psg, it didn't go anywhere , it was reformatted in the parliament because of what mr. boyko uh is ratifying. it's only a matter of time. i spoke in the parliament on this issue today and said that the parliament is expected to be cleansed until the end and if the parliament is not cleansed, then someone will help from the side. today i am talking about the armed forces of ukraine, which are obviously also monitoring the political process as it happens it is the parliament that is why there are various options on how to clean up the parliament, let's say there , eh, the eu proposes to get rid of the opzh, eh, the head of the post, eh, i say that this is not enough for the parliament itself, others, let's say, we registered a resolution to prevent them to all the members of the former members of the psg to

visit the sessional session hall of the parliament of all working bodies and immediately answer that this is enough for the parliament, but it is no longer enough for society because society obviously demands the deprivation of all these deputies of the former faction of all without exception who entered this phrase all without exception which if they were patriots today, they call it the mandates of people's elected officials. how to do it is already a question. because there are different options, and we know which options we are suggesting. this is the leadership of the verkhovna rada er, it means to the legal services and so on, there are a number of draft laws registered, so i think that it is a matter of a short time, a short time, so that it will be completely finished. thank you, mr. taras, mr. volodymyr, please comment. please be kind. the story, so to speak, with certain procedural difficulties, of course everyone understood in particular, we are talking about getting rid of the arrest of deputies from the former delay of mandates, and as the initiator of one of the options for

solving this crisis with mandates, he said that there was an initiative, but society is already demanding more. and actually, what are we talking about ? zelenskyi and his servants want to appease society with this handout. well, for sure , to appease the demands, but not to go further, and society already demands that it be in the most interesting place. how do you see criticizing the monomajority? and there is a connection from them. so let's hope that now volodymyr tsybulko will return to our airwaves. well, but i would like to note that there is a tendency for this in our media space as well. it may be connected with viktor medvedchuk, who is no longer popular. the deputy of ukraine is actually planned to

the creation of a new tv channel e-e, where editorial organizational policy will be handled by people who worked on channels previously affiliated with viktor medvedchuk, the official owner will be vitaliy karpachev as serhii anal coal oligarch and many fear that the media influence this group can maintain through the newly created the media initiative volodymyr tsybulko has returned, let mr. volodymyr finish his opinion and after that taras batenko, well, look , now society is already demanding a comprehensive solution, there is no need to get rid of it the faction in the parliament should be eliminated along the entire vertical in all councils of all levels of factions and banned parties, then there will be some more or less understandable and logical behavior for society and for the government , that is, some further steps will be

more meaningful and at least some new legitimacy will appear in all these councils because, on the one hand, parties are banned, but people are not deprived of mandates, and this is, well, essentially undermining the legitimacy of the councils of all levels, mr. taras, if you agree with what volodymyr tsibulko is saying. then not then we comment and if we do not agree, then we ask, well , in any case, here is the story about the former, so to speak, other media designers. it is also important for some anton volodymyra about the fact that we have a bill that has already been voted by the profile committee about depriving local the councils of er-e latecomers and other er-e parties that were banned from the first nsdc and then by the courts

, then by the court, so it is only a matter of time when this bill will be introduced in the next hall , because in our country it sometimes happens that everything is very loud draft laws are being introduced a little slowly - let's say our proposals for changes to the regulations regarding the prohibition of the former passage to participate. well, we had to push through public letters to remind the speaker and so on. well, we hope that after all we will push through... initiatives regarding taking away mandates in general regarding the media component that you are talking about well, you know ukraine, the last wars, and the appearance of new media products, obviously, this is not a cheap pleasure, and i think as to such appearances such media products will be given increased attention, the main thing is that it means society and law enforcement agencies, where does the money come from, who is involved in this, people who finance are connected with some processes, political

processes, which are connected with the russian side or not in the end, there are other structures and so on, so when answers are given to all these instruments that i am talking about, we will understand what kind of media they will actually be, what position they will negotiate, how much, and what position is only on paper, somehow very little on me some feedback from the state bureau of investigation of the prosecutor general's office, is this enough in your opinion, mr. taras? well, it is difficult for me to evaluate. the thing is that we see many cases of collaborationism of the former psg, the party, the balance, there are other representatives of the party that i am banned in ukraine now just the cases are being investigated from the side trying to keep in mind in the territory purchased there

zaporizhia kherson oblast in parts of luhansk donetsk oblast honestly maybe part of kharkiv oblast and if we talk over the last year we have had cases when criminal cases were initiated by law enforcement agencies and the sbu and the sbu, and so on. therefore, it is difficult for me to speak about statistics, but these statistics are not measured by individual cases, therefore, the evaluation of the work of law enforcement agencies should be given . that a ukrainian parliamentarian is in a situation where the head of the prosecutor general's office, for example, reports to the parliament that is not happening now, of course, let's give the floor to volodymyr chibulka, mr. volodymyr. the matter is because when you dig under the opzzh in real terms, whether under the balance party or under sharia, then you have to consider the treasonous actions of the representatives of the servants of the people, we know

the history of eh that next to the balance there was a kovalev in the kherson region who was an eh deputy of the servant i want to remind the people that sometime before the winter, a list of deputies who left the country before february 24 and did not return to this country to our country was published, and among this list there is, for example, voloshyn from the police, according to which he is against the deputy of the kyiv rada from of alexander's european solidarity a criminal case has been opened against poheryskyi, allegedly he was involved in dousing this character with green wine, but this one ran in, and poheryskyi is defending the country during the war, by the way , under bakhmut, and this is the whole story. well, along with more than 12 or 15 deputies from the upszh who fled before the war with the country there there are already at

least a dozen in this battalion of monaco and they are sending its representatives to the servants, because of which it seems to me that this is precisely what is happening such a quiet fondness for the persecution of the criminal and representatives of the police and, by the way, and from er hearing about the occupied territories, as well as collaborators, there were 10, well , the main specifics of the ukrainian political process, which in no party, i emphasize, in none , starting from the time of petlyura with skoropadsky and ending with our glorious present, for some reason, there were always some or the other such morally ugly people. in your opinion , will the case with the police department reach some logical end and approximate terms and, in general, the attitude of fellow deputies in the

session hall, what are we talking about? insiders and in general, so to speak, what cannot be done can be done without surnames well, i want to say that this is a situation that is still gaining momentum and not only in the parliament of the parties, bills are registered in which you mentioned, i mentioned but also in society there are petitions for the president of ukraine who received the full number of votes registered, this is also the grain of military personnel as the conscience of the nation, today the rating is the highest in the state and so on. we will not name the church list. therefore, it is obvious that the best situation what did the parliament itself decide about the pj? the parliament itself is a legitimate constitutional way, just find the right mechanism, what is the way to get rid of them? regarding time, i believe that time is running out very quickly, if we say certain people , i will not name who suddenly eh. you yourself know who it is about, count their votes. parliament then this time has already come out

because he showed even today when we could not after a-m-m of how we took away the mandate we have a company to vote in any bill next to sit down at the blood tables, the positions of the council , discuss normally, talk about all the bills on the agenda, remove the risks , and so on, because there are various bills that are proposed by hotels, and with corruption-inducing components, and so on, this component is not shared anywhere . it is obvious that probably part of the parliament of the governing body was counting on the votes of the former vat, which created new parliamentary groups, so we understand that when the mandates are taken to take a few more deputies, the former travels. these two the groups will fall apart. so, i am clarifying that i understood correctly. after the vote on the removal of the mandates of the mentioned people 's deputies, the psj already distanced itself from the servant of the people and actually voted entirely for

some other legislative initiatives, not the ukrainian parliament, it was not somewhere, it was not distancing itself, it was just their votes already today. enough to pass draft laws that were on the agenda today well, we are stuck on the second reading of energy, so the corporatization of myrhorod, and then there were the land issues some property issues and so on, that is, today the parliament would actually be. well, it doesn't work purely except for those issues related to mandates, but the issues of the gangs have gone through, well, such a deep discussion. i don't know to what extent they will be shown in the slot today broadcasting of the verkhovna rada, but well, we discussed for an hour, but there was still a little more. what to block the tribune, and we insisted several times, we put it to the vote today to return to the agenda from the first in order to deprive the mandates and then

other issues and in the end they managed to achieve this and, as a result, they showed that it is necessary to sit down at the round table of the agreed councils and properly clear the agenda of the plenary session, therefore their votes are already lacking today, an extremely interesting moment volodymyr tsibulko, he is not just political an expert, but also a former people's deputy, your prospects, so to speak, of the approval of these conciliation councils and, in general, whether political life is possible after, for example , caseo- psg will be crossed out finally. the satisfied pika on the message from president boyk and shufrich shows that everything is fine with them, that they have agreed, they have insured themselves, but there is one more moment, today in the walls of the parliament, after 300 days and more, the deputy of the table and his representatives welcomed, but how to christ the savior

that is, the impression there is that for some representatives of the polish people's army and representatives of the servants of the people, there is not even a sense of war in relations, that is, this war did not in any way violate their unity and common political goals, and a coalition may still have begun would some possible non-public negotiations between the party in power and the opposition parties. and what kind of coalition we see is not formalized, and look, eh, a circus took place the day before yesterday when , instead of petro poroshenko , a certain lviv toastmaster of bakun was sent as a delegate to the parliamentary council of europe and eh this is a confirmation of the fact that the reserve votes in the deputy groups for, in addition to the opzj, there are two more

deputy groups that definitely vote in the interests of the servants well, let's remember the well- known law on the city of finishing or the law on the selection of judges to the constitutional court, which voted with the votes of the oligarchic group and that's why it's right here. well, there is already an unwritten coalition and it is bound by financial interests more than political ones.