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there is no hand, okay, after these three, there was no shelling , people were evacuated yesterday, the day before yesterday, they interrupted people, but we are generally soledam, yes, what is there, sweeters, now you know that there is nothing there, everything was erased on the seventh number, this is on the fifth, we live , they made a hole right behind it, where we we are sleeping, well, the roof is broken. well, what do you hope for everything good, that the war ends here , that they return home alive and well, and that we, the most important thing, that people do not suffer, that everything is good for people, and that everything is good for us, and in general,
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they shoot a lot, there is a lot of shooting there, in general very very scary, gorillas can be seen very strongly there . well, what else is nearby. today we are monitoring the situation in soledar. i will remind you that the russian ministry of defense is reporting that russian forces have captured the ukrainian city. this is reported by the american tv channel cnn, the film crew of which
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is located approximately 4 km from soledar, the journalists confirm and claim that the first half of today, that is, on friday at fighting continued in the city, and in the afternoon , an organized withdrawal of ukrainian troops allegedly began, there was no panic among the military , reports cnn . lysychansk, luhansk region, shelling and bombardment of the soledar intensified, an active assault on the city began about a week ago, the founder of the wagner pvk, yevgeny prigozhyn, reports on the capture of the soledar starting from january 10, but until today , no one officially confirmed his message that a year ago, about 10,000 people lived in soledari, the city worked there, forming state-owned enterprises, artemsil is the largest salt production company in east central europe, the plant stopped working in the spring. well, what does it look like the city is now eloquent satellite images
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published the day before by the american aerospace company max the photos show that in soledar residential buildings and schools have been completely destroyed the situation in soledar let's discuss with the military expert oleksiy melnyk, co-director of foreign policy and international security programs of the razumkov center , joined our broadcast. good evening, mr. melnyk, do you see signs that the russian army has captured the city, as the russian ministry of defense claims, or signs that the armed forces of ukraine are leaving the city? enough of a dispute, the information, er, the russians are reporting, well, probably a week, so, er, they either captured everything , er, solidar, er, what we hear, we quoted er, foreign sources, well, also journalists could see one unit and
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draw conclusions based on this that it is the entire army retreating , all the forces that are there. well, the general staff is not quite forward . how the ukrainian side conducts its information policy. we remember the recent events that took place around kherson, kherson, when they asked us to wait a day, two or three, and only then wait for official confirmation, that is, the ukrainian side before officially declaring the liberation of one or another the population of the point is still waiting for the moment where it is already fixed because russia, as we see, is ahead of those events. unfortunately, some foreign media, our media are trying to
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pick up on this situation, that's why it is, well, it's like that , that's how it is. in conclusion, it is correct, i understood you today and the ministry of defense of russia, when they confirmed that they captured soledar , they simply said, if not completely untrue, then it is possible on the half-track, because in my opinion it is more in line with objectivity and the truth is, the information we received from the ministry of defense of ukraine, that is, from the real headquarters, because it continues, and this is what they say that none of the parties fully controls the city, but on the basis of the fact that 10 separate russian units came out and occupied the outskirts of solidar in one or another city to claim that they
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captured it well, as they say, it is a little premature resources and strength to seize the city in the near future , or do you not see such signs? it depends on what we mean by the most pessimistic scenario. since i personally do not currently have a clear answer to the question of military expediency and political expediency in order to hold back, what is really there ? heavy losses, as far as i can tell, without a clear understanding of military and political politics, it is difficult to talk about the worst- case scenario, we have already seen many times when
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an organized retreat from some of some positions in populated areas in order to preserve the axial composition in order to improve the positions of defense positions on other wishes, especially the truth, and that is often why we are told that we need to be patient and still wait for the best, but i would like to repeat once again what what is this the worst-case scenario, if there is no expediency to continue losing people, or is it in order to save the lives of ukrainian servicemen, to leave the positions, and then to recapture new ones in another way, at another time? well, i say here, let’s wait. i understand you, you talked about political and military expediency. i will also quote the western press. the american edition of the new york times
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today drew attention to such a change in the rhetoric of president volodymyr zelenskyi. they say that during the battles for lysychansk in north donetsk, he doubted whether the defense of these cities was worth the cost of heavy losses. in the case of bahmut, the defense of this city became, well, for ukraine, as the universe writes, a symbol of the national struggle against the russian occupiers, and according to analysts, the tactical value of bahmut is precisely still raises great doubts and considering that this battle is the longest and most likely analysts assume that it then has a great strategic importance for both sides, well if this is so, what strategic importance can it be to have mahmut mahmut and soledar you quoted one of the assessments i can now i don’t have it at hand to repeat, but what i saw also speaks of the military research, tactical, strategic, because
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both sides put these exhaustions against us . russian personnel were destroyed. i'm not talking about these mercenaries of wagner, especially the former prisoners, but also there, the elite russian regular forces were abandoned not so long ago, that is, if the meaning is to exhaust the russian human potential and prevent that is impossible we have here, which are obviously being prepared, there is usually a large military station in this. if we talk about the economic and once again, who is really? the symbolic meaning is possible, again, i repeat that we do not know the whole situation, there are
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probably several people from ukraine who have it, i hope that they make their assessment correctly, that is, how does it affect what others talk about in support of our partners, how it can affect the decisions that are now being announced one by one regarding new supplies of arms to ukraine, that is, the issue is extremely difficult and at best we will get an answer to it over time, but it is not a fact that this answer will also be unambiguous, as you mention you mention the news about how, one by one, the western partners announce their support for ukraine again. the western press also says that in the last few weeks, a number of western countries have suddenly decided to send weapons to kyiv, which they previously refused, both tanks and other weapons and western military analysts come to the conclusion that the west has allegedly started preparing ukraine for the spring breakthrough, and about the spring breakthrough, the
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spring counteroffensive was also previously said by ukrainians, ukrainian top officials, do you see you signs of preparation for such a big breakthrough and what it might consist of where it might happen well first of all let me disagree uh that's a great resolution of the question i mean the logical connections you're trying to figure out but let me disagree with the fact that this is a sudden decision, because it may sound like sensational statements, but it is clear that there are very few exponents. that is, it is a decision that was prepared, it is a consultation that was held for a long time before the first announcements were made, and they are demos that were made. sometimes they they contradict each other, but they have a certain purpose and they take place in a certain context. usually, as for the signs of preparation for the next attack, there are also signs
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of preparation for the next one on the part of the ukrainian side, and perhaps even more obvious are the signs of preparation for an offensive on the part of russia and the activation of western aid, in my opinion, here pursues, at least at the end, to neutralize as much as possible the level of russia's ability to advance and thereby contribute to the preparation of the ukrainian mood or the consequences or for those actions that will to counter this russian offensive, which i will repeat, there are obvious signs that it is being prepared, the only question or intrigue remains is how many directions will this offensive take, in which direction will it be the main one, which direction will be the main one, on which which directions will be demonstrative for comment oleksiy melnyk, military expert on semi-director of foreign policy programs and international security center razumkov was on radio svoboda, we talked about soledar and the
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possible further offensive of the ukrainian army, thank you, no more deputies verkhovna rada of ukraine has prematurely terminated the mandate of people's deputies, it is about viktor medvedchuk, taras kozak, andriy derkach , renat kuzmin and andriy aksyonov, the first four candidates lost their mandates based on the loss of citizenship on the last one. year, but already at that time journalists announced that he had a russian passport, aksyonov was not a member of the banned opposition party and remained a non-factional deputy. going back to the representatives of the banned opsz, despite the fact that kuzmin is being teased by the cossack medvedchuk , a number of representatives of the already banned pro-russian party are still ukrainian deputies, some of them go to the parliament and vote for bills, well, among them yuriy boyko or serhiy lyovochkin or nestor
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shufrych, who also remains the head of the parliamentary the committee on freedom in the service of the people says that it is impossible to deprive the mandates of all deputies of a prohibited act, they say there are no constitutional grounds. well, how political scientists state that the servants of the people simply need these mps of the banned psg because they are additional votes for draft laws, and there is another category of mps of the banned psg. these are those who have not appeared in parliament since february 24. last year, they were not deprived of their mandates, but they are not in ukraine either among them, for example, the spouses natalya korolevska and yurii solod or oleg voloshyn or fedir khrystenko, until yesterday, among them were the capital developer vadym stoler and igor abramovich, who from the beginning of the full-scale during the invasion, they lived on the cote d'azur , which is why the media gave them the nickname of the fighters of the monaco battalion, but yesterday abramovich returned to ukraine and came to the parliament, the photos of one and the other in the session hall were published by ukrainian pravda journalist
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mykhailo tkach, in political circles they even talked about the fact that the fighters of the monaco battalion today they can take away deputy mandates, but this has not happened, at least so far, this all means, we will continue to talk , political scientist handler of political sciences igorreyterovych joins our broadcast. good evening good evening, igor. do you know, more precisely, i can’t, you don’t know, but do you understand why the abramovych carpenters are returning to ukraine, what happened, two key points in this story , firstly, they returned because there was a certain threat of their mandates being revoked , at least there were talks about it. that’s why they had to remove one of the reasons according to which, in accordance with the constitution, it was possible to take away this mandate from them and the second point. i am deeply convinced that they appeared in the verkhovna rada according to some preliminary agreements with the representatives of the government, judging from everything that no one will take away their mandate from them, they
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will come and pretend that they are working, vote that they are acting people, and thus any claims against them will be removed to a large extent, although based on the constitution it is already given- a long time ago, it was possible to make a decision on the deprivation of mandates. well, if not all of them, at least mainly and most of the deputies of the banned party, the new faction, respectively, which was in the verkhovna rada, because as a rule, you have indicated in the plot in the summary a lot of them long enough, well, at least 9 months they have been there outside of ukraine, they do not go to work, accordingly, they do not perform their parliamentary functions. by the way, you said that they probably came because there was a high probability that they would lose their mandate . ukrainian pravda reported that on january 13 today they were supposed to be deprived of their parliamentary mandates, but this did not happen. well, maybe it is for now, or what do you think, or if yes, the main reason is the basis on which
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this mandate will be taken away, as if we understand those four deputies who today the mandate was taken away, but it happened because of the presidential decree that, well, they were stripped of their ukrainian citizenship, and accordingly, if they lose their ukrainian citizenship, they cannot be people's deputies of ukraine. there is a certain logic here, we do not know the reasoning behind the presidential decree. that is, it is an eternal story that concerns not only acting people's deputies well, and some other people from whom this citizenship was taken away, that is, is it the presence of some other passport, maybe there are some other reasons, and so on, but in principle, abramovych from the dollar has also been talking about these two people for a long time they said that they implicitly have more than one passport, and therefore if their surnames appeared in the decree that we discussed for several days, well , with a high probability, this mandate would be taken away from them, but since their surname did not appear, they probably had to remove it well, at least there are grounds for possibly even initiating the procedure to deprive them of their mandate. for this, they came to ukraine, went to
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vote there, but i am deeply convinced that after that they will go back to where they were and will continue to interrupt for outside the borders of ukraine, since the mandate is still there. unfortunately, no one will be interested in taking it from them. i would like to dwell on each of them, perhaps few people know abramovich and the joiner, but they are just demonstrative cases. well, for example, the joiner is an official . the prosecutor general's office even initiated three criminal cases against him, there were serious articles of terrorist financing, money laundering, tax evasion, and in principle, it really took courage to return to ukraine, or as you just hinted, you had to have some security guarantees or any guarantees that you will come and you will not be called for questioning, your mandate will not be taken away and so on, it means that someone gave these guarantees
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. country if they have the slightest doubt that they will be accepted there , or immediately upon arrival, law enforcement agencies will come and hand them some hangings there, uh, well, some or another criminal case is under consideration, or they will, for example, take away their mandate in to the verkhovna rada, and you are their presence , so it is clear that there were probably some conversations and agreements between them, if we are talking about the figure of stoler, then he is a unique personality in general, it is not that criminal cases were opened against him, and well, regarding the development of kyiv and so on... representatives of our special services and the security of ukraine and the main intelligence department also paid attention to him, and they had been talking about it for a long time. and here is this person who was not in the country for almost 10 months. that they were talking about something, they were agreeing on what he could offer in response to the fact that his mandate will not be taken away, well, partially, almost in the plot, it was mentioned
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that now there are deputies, and these same oligarchs, they do not come by themselves, they conduct what there is a certain group of people , more or less such rank-and-file deputies, so they vote for all bills that are beneficial to the government, if we analyze the last few days of voting in the parliament, we will see that not a single decision was made without the votes of the banned party, well, the representatives of the banned party, that is, they gave the lack that was needed in order for the decision to pass through the session hall , except for certain issues, because when they voted to take away the mandates, there was a constitutional majority, yes, but in general, they they play their role and play it quite well , and apparently some representatives of the government are satisfied with this, they believe that it is a lesser evil that allows them to solve some important problems facing the country and, in principle, well to give answers to the challenges of national security that were put before us after february 24. well, and the last moment, look at the public statement of the leader of the party, the servant of the people
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, mrs. shulyak, who said in an interview that she is very well. in such a way that she is very happy with the constructiveness of the representatives of the banned psg, since they are now reliable partners and vote for any initiatives that come from the office of the president or from the pro-government party. well, why get rid of such people if they are guaranteed to you they give several tens of votes and don't even ask. and what are we talking about in those bills that they vote for? i don't want to come here to defend ms. shulyak, but simply to update the last thing she said today after the mandate was taken away from these four representatives mrs. shulyak said well, she welcomed this decision and said that with regard to other representatives of the police, she is waiting for signals or some specific cases from the prosecutor general of the prosecutor's office from the sbu from the dbr from the ministry of internal affairs. in other words, she listed all the law enforcement agencies that or otherwise, directly or indirectly, after all, it
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depends on the office of the president and, in principle , nothing prevents these law enforcement agencies from getting at least those criminal cases that they already have on file, that is, some such double standards, look at me, by the way, she forgot about one more structure this is the apparatus of the verkhovna rada and the verkhovna rada itself, because one of the constitutional grounds for depriving a mod of his mandate is, for example, the recognition by the court of such a deputy that he disappeared there, there are some surnames like voloshina and so on a long time ago you could have sued the court, the court would have recognized them, they don't exist, they have disappeared from the public space, they don't appear anywhere, we don't start anything where they are and a lot of time has passed, the courts could have made such a decision on the basis of this, these people would have been taken away mandate, but it should have been initiated, including, if i am not mistaken , by the apparatus of the verkhovna rada on the instructions of the leadership of the verkhovna rada, since they know very well how many deputies go to work and how many do not. the assistants of these deputies, therefore, according to some
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persons, it was possible to do all this more easily even without the involvement of law enforcement agencies, but simply because of the procedure prescribed both in the constitution and in the office , they could actually find some uh, well, analyze cases for each of these deputies elementary their statements that they made, i can say well, i don't know, i crossed paths with some of them - i crossed paths on the air and even before the beginning of large-scale bargaining, well , they said things that were frankly they didn't particularly hide it. when they were made some remarks there, they said that you won't do anything to us because we are people 's deputies and we represent some part of the people there, therefore, if desired, constitutional mechanisms could have been found a long time ago
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in order to have these mandates deprive well, look, there is one more pr-political moment, but i would be interested to see if the president would simply mention in his speech that in conscience some people in the verkhovna rada should be willing to draw up mandates because they did well, let's say yes, not very much in favor of ukraine, on the contrary, against our state, and then look at the reaction of those deputies to whom he would turn, would they put these mandates on the table. they put something on the table, which tells me that they could, in principle, do it in such a voluntary way. to you, the fact that abramovich came to kyiv with toleri well, it may indicate that they are not afraid of public resonance. so stoler was analyzed in detail, i would also like to discuss abramovich, one of the so-called fighters of the battalion in monaco also lived in france from the beginning of the invasion, there was an investigation in the office in the fall of 2021, the same investigative journalist mykhailo tkach. he also
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recorded how davyta arkhamia, the head of the servant of the people faction in the parliament, met in a kyiv restaurant with the deputy of the people's republic of ukraine, this same igor abramovich. there they met for about two hours, and when the weaver asked one and the other what they were talking about, both of them could not remember, well, it was that simple, they were talking about something, they were meeting, drinking coffee. well, they are officially and publicly, as if from two different factions and allegedly worldview from the other two from two different worlds , what kind of meeting is this? and what else do we know about this abramovich? well, planarhamme said then that it was about parla's normal work and that he communicates with representatives of various factions in order to get the necessary votes for important bills for the country i.e., in principle, he did not hide the fact that he met with him, but he also meets there with representatives of the homeland and european solidarity and voice. and in general, he is ready to meet with any deputy if it will benefit the efficiency of the verkhovna rada, and it will increase the efficiency of the work of the verkhovna rada,
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and prumovych is also known in principle for his contacts in the field of developers, because he came here together with the carpenter. it seems to me that there are no coincidences, they are people in life who in principle i think they are not just human , but they also have business contacts, so they are synchronous. they took this step in order for a certain period of time from them. or not to take from the other side this confirms that the mandate in itself represents a certain value and probably well, it provides some even now during the war it provides some certain advantages that such people are willing to some extent to even risk coming and lighting up in front of the camera in order to show that they have nothing to take away this mandate, well , it was enlightened, that’s for sure, thank you very much , igorreyterovych, a political scientist, candidate of political sciences, we talked about the deputies of the banned opposition party in the walls of the parliament, thank you very much. well,
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now about reforms we talk a lot about reforms because it is important, so the delegates of the 19th extraordinary congress of judges of ukraine elected all eight members of the supreme council of justice by votes from the judicial community . can the judicial system in ukraine function among the tasks of the vrp: to appoint and dismiss judges; to consider complaints; to give consent to the detention of a judge or to keep him in custody ; to work in judicial self-government bodies for the next four years. well, in general, the fact that the judges elected eight members of the supreme council of justice is actually very positive news, because this is part of the judicial reform that ukraine should implement as it moves towards the european union, but anti-corruption experts pay attention to who the judges elected to the supreme council of justice elected elected members of the vrp from among 8 to seven. are there any
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serious questions in the statement of the anti-corruption center? they claim that some of the newly elected members of the vrp visited crimea after of his occupation, someone indicated unreliable data in their declarations, someone made illegal court decisions. well, now a logical question arises. if the members of the supreme council of justice were observed in any violations , where is the guarantee that they will not turn a blind eye to similar violations by the judicial corps? let's talk to the air, the lawyer, advocacy manager of the de jure foundation, stepan berko, joins. good evening , if not with the members of the supreme council of justice , who were finally elected by the congress of judges, who are they the question is, the list of questions is different, you have already correctly noted that there are many things related to the declaration of property, there are also questions about some of these members regarding the
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decisions they made. we also recorded cases when judges made decisions at the same time they were on education, that is, there are certain differences and certain issues that we, as representatives of civil society, discovered and sent to the ethical council, this is the body that selected candidates for the supreme council of justice. so we had hopes that the ethical council the council will ask these questions to the candidate for the members of the supreme council of justice and to us too. be it any citizen of ukraine, it may be possible to read the answers and determine whether they were convincing or not , because very often you can find some information that may indicate dishonesty, but everyone well, i should have the right to explain such and such facts. unfortunately, in connection with the introduction of the military station, in fact,
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the council decided to close the interviews, and therefore it was impossible for us to find out whether the candidates gave answers to these questions, which in if so, what were these answers ? did they refute with their answers the suspicions that we had? well, i see that some questions were put to these judges by journalists . yes, he visited russia after the age of 14. well, he said he went to see his father, a pensioner of russian citizens, so he visited his father, he refers to the bible, honor your father and mother, and that is why he went to see your parents, this is a quote or for example, julia bokova yaka this selection also came, she traveled to the crimea, well, she said that the doctors prescribed rest in the crimea for her daughter. these are the answers they received, i don’t know if it’s for you or not.

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