we and so on. this is possible and also relevant. you don’t have that thing that you also can’t do. you can’t do it anymore. where do you get all this strength? now i'll tell you a movie, you went in, worked a certain schedule , a certain period and left. and you have free time. i'm still in the fourth year and i'm still a student this year at the ostrog academy. the first year is part-time, and of course there are problems that you don't expect. private health in the family. in someone er someone there is fighting from the district leaders and if you help one, then there are already several, that is, accordingly, there are requests from friends who are fighting, there are these trips to the cinema. for the sake of winning the project, he watches ukrainian , that is why we carry this film and not only this one,

many films, and when you turn on your acting psycho apparatus, it is always there theater, of course, i am very grateful that i am no longer 30 and not 20 years old, that i play a certain limit of performances, because i would not be able to drag there as a young actor of 18-20. i became honest, there is a moment, well, or only this, i do this. when was engaged in only this, then a little bit of cinema and television appeared. then, then, then, now, well, there is so much else that you would just die . to another theater, no. i agree, i already say that this limit is enough for me to be able to realize myself, so that in those things that i am already obliged to finish, i have to drop these courses . to the next one

new year's is my own story, which i have already gone into , that is, there are things when you can't come, there are things you are bound by old obligations regarding the palliative hospice story. you format the money that goes there specifically for such things, and you transfer it, well, transfer it, repurpose it there, let’s say these funds are directed, that is, to be more precise, i’m already messing around in my head, well, if it’s absolutely in the profession to go to the cinema like this, it’s easier for me you entered 1.5-2 months and you worked on the character and the next film came out, i won’t have it right away. if i were to go out on such a pre-war period with films, it’s three pictures a year, sometimes they are tight . one after another, but at this moment i was lucky that the theater was not functioning, it was literally that in the summer, it’s just summer and the evening there before the new

year and you didn’t have parallel rehearsals, you just moved and played those performances that are already fixed, but if there were, well, this is enough for me and i think that the proposals with which category they will be less, so you don’t need to be here -is you have to take it normally, uh, i sort of distribute it, of course , the energy eyes are knocked out because you have a plan, they have schedules, you can't take risks, because i have a child, i owe it to her, that is, who doesn't it's easier from such a loud, kind of frivolity yes when raz and you stopped the team, the family, uh, little well, who will this happen to , who will this make it easier when he is like that, well, if i didn't allow myself such risky uh, history, i always know that i am responsible

for myself, i am for other people because i was dealing with some very delicate things it concerns the evacuation of people to the west who could not even stay in the western region and some of which i saw firsthand led me to a rather depressing story because although i knew the price of the enemy, i knew the pattern of his behavior bucha was not a discovery for me if you know the history of the soviet russian empire army well enough if you have read gabriel kiope why was i born with a girl if you know the memories in western ukraine how women came to the table with their tongues er nails tongues order for teaching, if you know what was rebuked here in the 20s, muravyov's entry into kyiv, if you've

read it all it didn't go anywhere, it's degumming in the army, it's their national idea, they train their degumming agents like this when they degumming everything around, that is, it 's eh well, this is a job for psychiatrists in general , so it happened that on the 25th i went to frankivsk with my family and my little son and spent a few months there. this city is a dream for me. it's too big and it's not my environment. but in frankivsk, i hear a lot from locals and people who live there all the time that well, you don't idealize it, it's not that cool. how can it seem to you because you lived here for a certain time, but ... i suspect that metamorphoses happened with him and you already came to lviv in 1994, where you studied , but you grew up there anyway, and now

you visit frankivsk more often, and from work i understand that partly more sons live there is in connection with er, well, these rockets, how did it change? in frankivsk, here you are noticed these changes for us, he changed well, let's go to his home, he went to lviv. i was not introduced to the cultural segment of the city. my family is not involved in art . i really liked to read. this is what god gave me. the love of books. it started a long time ago. secondly, my mother did not speak ukrainian right away, because she is not from prykarpattia . at the beginning of the 80s, there was simply an understanding of what was russian-speaking school is a priority, well, that is, this is what the

whole story worked on. moreover, when you are engaged in the lanka of some komsomol in production, you yourself are not the bearer of the ukrainian tradition due to the fact that you simply do not know about it, only because you have there is a part of ukrainian blood - this is my home, that it is russian , latvian, and all this has already grown up with communism, and this is what my mother was brought up in soviet schools, and therefore, according to her, the path to ukraine ran parallel to my home from the beginning of independence a little earlier, because my father had previously integrated and is began to open my grandfather's mouth about the upa, not to be afraid of perestroika, to talk about some things that were taboo to talk about, and actually about being punished or deported , because actually this line of my father is the galician line. so a lot opened up there, actually closer to independence, and actually then when it moves, it was founded and my father's family was involved.

before that, until now, i gathered a lot of information, not only that, but also a lot of literature that reached me through people who understood that i gravitate to history and do not believe it. i don't trust it. to soviet textbooks because there are some whole long terms of decades thrown out and it is not at all clear what is there for that well, we know that in russia too there will be dissident movements and the same history, we can already see it in school at the end of school, it started before the beginning of the 90s you dig up the surnames of their silver age age in us we shot renaissance is already starting to open that is, you understand that opa here is an interesting research experience you go there the grand duchy of lithuania now is the time to ask what really happened respectively people who saw my

the attraction of not trusting on begins to pretend to me to add myself and the same application i moved into integrated into the ukrainian-speaking in the ukrainian and then into the ukrainian-speaking space the language came to me to you at 90 so i understand already there was just independence i was finishing school and then students on the granite, this whole revolution was like an example for me. and what was the motivation? i started to grow, of course. lviv . lviv gave me a backbone. frankivsk. that's why i didn't have the opportunity. there wasn't such a time. and everything was already working in lviv there, you absolutely stood on your feet, that's how you find out 600 your

worldview . is this your language? i didn't have those acquaintances that appeared when i became an actress and somewhere, let's say, when rostyslav derzhpilsky headed the ivano-frankivsk theater, before that they came only to visit the family, i knew that andruhovich lived there, i loved andruhovich, i had acquaintances, uh, we met when he did the translation for stas moiseev's hamlet at the young theater and then we became friends , now we are very friends with my wife nina and the whole vagabundu, that's all. my friends, respectively, somewhere between the orange revolution and the euromaidan, i happened with frankivsk . such relations are very fruitful, when i just came as a friend, and already after the euromaidan, and at first i became one of the units. when i returned to the city, uh, not permanently, but

partially. yes, sharing it already with a kiik, but he can say that this is a peripheral city. i i can only say one thing, i am always the same , on the basis of the fact that i am a frankish woman , born by right, i even have an honorary uh, what is this city like? yes, i have an honorary resident or something like a resident of the city, i have the right to believe that sometimes i would like to say some specific things that i would like to improve in the place, well, this is not a remark, for example, as regards the restoration of the tradition of visiting the cinema , it is difficult not only in frankivska, they removed this problem . for example, they won’t go to the ground and why, and this is , accordingly, the taste, the level of being able to watch uh, it’s different than just leisure time and you need to pull it up in terms of time and even if there are few people, even if you thought the scene in a long rental for a small for a long for a long rental

, i.e. long-term and i have had the same thing since this year, but already when i think of war well, war , parents, on september 1 where will you go with your children if there are no worries and everything is calm, all the cafes are very crowded why will they go to the sniper because i call in the morning to make a reservation tickets are used well, as in kyiv, you need to make reservations because on the weekend of september 1, we will take the children to a patriotic movie, something about the war, just about the war, about our hero, about, well, i'll make a reservation, call me, tell me if the four of you come, we'll turn on the movie i wrote such a post, i say, friends, i understand the cafe, friends, colleagues, godmother, it’s very wonderful . and why don’t you go after your school, let’s gather for lunch there until the evening, fill the halls and then go to the cafe. why don’t you want to see and that your child is the same upbringing it's the understanding of how to spend the first of september with benefit, well, for me it was uh things,

unacceptable philharmonic exhibitions, everything works uh, you can divide the month into those, well, if it should be a minimum package, there should be one, you have to educate yourself in this and for yourself so that your children already perceive it as organic as brushing their teeth with the need to break everything , so that your children go on, otherwise it will continue on, this is spring taste, then we will see why such architectural forms why such primitive plots why such because there is a demand for it and, accordingly, people who they are developing content, they want to give, they have also decided, they understand that people are even more difficult, they are not ready, and why are they not ready because they are not growing, because they themselves are not ready to do things, it should be called a double movement towards each other, of course, i also do not understand when not to give a person is better than a candy and will not grow up but exploit all the time. this nemok is also a crime, but you have to make a double movement

towards each other. you can speak very clearly , i remember your words in one of your interviews, you said that he is not an artist er, he is a teacher, er, education for enlightenment, there is so much education, but at the same time, i understand what you were talking about, even if you mean that when an artist creates something of his own, he should not be guided by that in order to teach someone something, how do you actress, as a person from this world, you still feel this burden on yourself. enlighten whom you have met. you know art as a provocateur. i cannot give a verdict on the stage in a work. well, that was it. the end of the tunnel is a provocation personal personal question and answers i really like open endings in works when a person can guess that's why i really like it - i really like it when people start deciphering in i understand that kazanostra is

not necessary here, it's exactly therapy here, you don't have to think here, everything is so smooth here, the subtexts of the texts they go very quickly but i like forms when there are a lot of downloads when they have to be opened repeatedly . crazy people, what kind of picture is planned there for the end of next year, or is it about hmm, this is a question of the 70s, psychiatry. not for dissidents , the picture is very difficult. vela teku still schizophrenia is the same term purely soviet guni where they didn't accept no actually the film is a difficult film a good one is completely different irma is not cosa nostra at all i generally like such eyes cardiograms

or between us some kind of river will come out in the spring psychological thriller an opportunity to talk what is not love or in childhood or when you live for a long time in the press of psychological economic physical violence in the home staying in the family what can this lead to is also a topic that needs to be disclosed in ukraine there were large indicators actually why we have the istanbul code e -e and e-e polina's hotline because actually, actually, actually, this was a big, big, big statistic for ukraine, violence in the home in any form, not only against women and children , but also against men. 18th year when i was very cooperated on this topic well, it is not necessary that you are already here, sexual, physical, this is economic violence, how widespread is it psychological, and some do not even know that it exists and cannot recognize what it

is and that something must be done about it, it is called and has a term and almost a special history it's absolutely possible to have an answer to this to bring a person to justice who er does such things discovery of their identity. i think that now, if you take a general temperature across ukraine , then everyone is going through this process: someone is doing it now at the age of 17, someone at 47, someone at 52, someone at 31. and we clean up well, i'll tell you this as a person who grew up in kyiv and although my father is from volyn and we always spoke ukrainian for me lesya plus roma this is a very clear association with ukrainian here you look and such oh this is modern ukraine although now

i was there from the first series and there are already some questions about the phobia and there, well, that is, now we can watch with our eyes, there are moments that you can cling to, but there was this soloor. this is the atmosphere. what is it about ukrainians? it was categorically different from russian tv series from russian series. i have a very good feeling that it is ukrainian and it seems to me that if such content, even entertaining, even in this format, was no longer possible, then it would be possible now fewer questions and why are you listening during a full-scale invasion to ukraine, russian rap is the answer to that if they didn't run with balls around the supreme council against nato everything would be different if there was more such content everything would be different it was politics it was an information war and we were um conditionally independent we are now from the 14th year, we are really fighting for independence, that's where we can answer

for ourselves in every question. i also thought that lesi and roma, that's why lesi roma became so cool, why was there 2 million queries in views on google for my last name, fifth, sixth year exactly why in the east and south, where i came, she forbade me to switch to russian and to remain lesya, this cult and love for this product of the young generations of the east of the south , especially where she did not force this project, did not provoke that they all spoke ukrainian well, he absolutely repelled the antipathy to ukrainian and the fact that they understood that the ukrainian language would be not archaic , it might be some kind of poster-like protocol , but it might be a living urban language, and they wanted to reach for it properly. i thought that movies. now we have broken through this understanding. the people who depend on the launch of such projects have more

hair because russia understood that it is dangerous and no one created anything more than us. able let's do, of course it happened, we came before the orange revolution and in the orange revolution in the sixth-seventh year, we got a telefilm, we were given a three-year term, more projects were not launched actually because it is slava, it is dangerous because it has become a generation - this has become a cult series of the generation and if these are cult, therefore, it works, it is not the identity of what you are talking about, it is politics, nothing could have happened before the 14th year, and a priori, i now ask: do these deputies, who are active or of former convocations, who blocked the entrance , feel responsible of ukraine in nato, running with balls around the supreme council, are they responsible from the elite who played for everyone from each one himself, did he have a boon, some kind of swindler, or did he just do it for money,

are they now responsible for these children's deaths and that how much ukraine is currently putting, it seems to me that this is a matter of conscience, it is clear that we will not jerk anyone now, but he lives with this, he lives with this, he dies with this, but everything has its questions from the 91st year to everyone to everyone how much he could do more than he he did and to what extent he blocked what could now save ukraine, that's why lesi and roma are so innocent, allegedly a pop product. he also got into an informational danger for russia because it was very cool, which means it can't be... during our conversation, you are very much make it clear that you what's more, it's an interesting story, and you already mentioned that you are a first-year student and you went to archeology. if i'm right, the history of archeology is the history of history. i wanted to be an archaeologist . but now i won't be an archaeologist anymore, and i always have classmates - it's been 20 years, ladies. irma, even for teachers of some age, but

i am interested in going well, that is, this is closed, probably the gestal is like this. that is, well, i will not be a historian, where will i go for firov or for zinchenko, as i am very well, or kapiani or vyatrovych or, god, yaroslav hrytsak eh you understand but i i work with the era, he is an actor sooner or later he still works with the era even if it is the era of the 90s not far away even if it is an era, you still encounter a person of the time, a person of the time, a historical subject, it doesn’t matter to me actors as performers, as tra -retransmitters, a person eras absolutely have to love this subject and be very interested not to play any 19th century at all, not to play the finale of the 19th but a specific time of the 19th century or there in the 14-15th of the 16th century where even less we know that especially there the ukrainian middle ages

for example, there is very little there, but this maneuver is there, it must be learned. well, it is easier from the world, but let’s say in ukrainian, yes, the history and this person of the era is not just a person . fake person begins to play with objects that were then and play portraits from the gallery you know what a portrait is a person sits down in the portrait you sit down selfie you find the best light you find the best angle you want to be liked in the portrait you need to point are you there with with coins like konstantin ostrovsky yes, he is an oligarch do you like it there or is it depicted there in what colors is selected what is carried like this color if the artist conveys how a person sits may not be similar at all even with his images portraits but you get even

or photos - photo cards old photos black- the whites sit there like that hrushevsky seli well they go out of the frame they live for them pence your glasses when you start playing give this meaning everything flies excuse me i'm always to the example ot the duel so the last duet there was an american film, at least the last one we remember medemon doesn't brush his teeth like that for two months he lives in those varnishes he lives some kind of knife do you have at home an event to go out on the playground you should already be that person movie just in the theater it's easier it's a metaphor theater it's metaphorical art there everything is exaggerated here maybe here everything can be done by looking at a certain scene, if it is big, then yes, in the cinema, alone in the cinema, it is detailing, it is whether i always see that a person is playing an object for me, a person starts to play in a dress, a person starts to play by standing to play some character she saw there somewhere in the pictures and not to pull out this character i don't need to interfere that's all you have to

walk in it if you have a corset you live in it for two months walk the streets let them look at you that's how it is if you play a knight ask someone wears an armored car in these armored cars, although the posture is like sitting down so that you are uncomfortable so that i don’t think in the frame that you are now i will pretend to play this plastic . that’s how the audience gets a lesson in acting. absolutely free of charge as we can see well, do you have to pay for electricity to watch us, but i probably want to at the very end, but during the conversation we tried to understand what you are holding on to, what is now your goal, you know and this is a picture, it was funny, i am such a little bird that flies and the signature so that the little bird hangs in the air on the strength of one hundred percent of someone 's rage or hatred, what do you hold on to, you don't know, i'm a person of faith, i'll say right away, probably, on the intuitive feelings that i, uh,

i'm trying now as much as possible to discover the feelings, metaphysical education for myself, uh to rely on intuition today, of course, the walkie-talkie processes information, but the intuitive one is very much like this now. it seems to me that i’m on intuition even now. if i were to fly, i’m absolutely convinced that my walkie-talkie is answered by my intuition of harmony that this is a war for a programmed long time ago, this death of this portal it can be fulfilled only by us and should have been fulfilled only by us, this is a sacred mission, yes, with such a great sacrifice, yes, with the birth, the rebirth of everything that was in the best times e 1,000 years ago, the best

upsurges of generations of our eh at that moment when they wanted to take over the state and a little something would be missing and the answer is, well, this is a sacral sacral battle with which we will emerge victorious and the world will change. i think here, i and my intuition are irrational, and i think that the collapse is the russian federation, it is also in time, we will see a large palette of new peoples who will be integrated into their past and their identity for a very long time to find themselves and ukraine should lead the platform for training them as vsevolod the winner and all that reparations and responsibility they are all the same will be collectively carried even when they were

knowingly unknowingly hostages and humanized in muscovy at any time, but ukraine should now be a platform for decommunication with representatives of the opposition of these peoples in order to settle a picture of the future in russia that is better for them than what they had and this will really be their organic history, although therapy will be there, i feel something that ukraine was chosen and we had no way to avoid it, we have involvement from birth and in some the time and development of all this, we must clean up after ourselves, although it is said that if we were on the edge all the time, it would already be extermination because we somehow contributed to the birth, it's like frankenstein who wants to kill his own, we didn't

think that it was like that, well, no, we didn't think unfortunately , this is how history turned out. what did yuri dolgoruky go? did he go in the other direction? it all started a long time ago. this is a completely different worldview. civilizational intelligence is very old. this is a very old conflict . to exterminate as those who know the pure truth and who are the rightful heirs and not what well it's time for the grandmothers of the empire to die and they have to do it no well, i thank you for what you do in general and for this conversation in particular, thank you very much

, we see your strength and steadfastness, we are proud of your courage, we bow to your courage, we rejoice in your success , we are equal to your patience, you stand, we are the fortress of bakhmut, salty as blood, iron as will , good morning in ukraine at seven o'clock, the marathon continues, the only news, my greetings to everyone from us in ukraine