er, if a topic were to be won, the contests are actually provided for coverage, they say, on the one hand, well, how should we cover the activities of the government? our news series is produced by 24 regional branches of the social network. this is enough. but we still need the rada tv channel . is controlled, yes, because it turned out that i am in the supervisory council of the public, and it so happened that it was formed there in 19-20, when the government had not yet complained and the majority consisted

of representatives of public associations, and that is, the public is not under the control of a pea. let's say yes and then some parallel structures are created, the task of which is to highlight and it is still being done, it is still being done for the people, well, people want to know how the government works, and in fact , someone won a contract for 120 million for the office of the president and now they will glorify it the authorities of the bridges yes yes yes yes yes yes let’s talk here even on the channels what a great fellow zelensky is and there’s a little there besides zelensky what to testify as in the best traditions there is some of his price yes in this case tymoshenko is 120 million someone er someone will earn someone is happy this well, it's not like they'll just give it to them , the guys will have to work the old money, they'll work for a year, but i

assure you that somewhere at the level of any city of regional subordination there is also a program called "covering the activities of the local authorities " 120 million, yes, millions, seven, eight, maybe 10 , maybe 20, well, it depends on whether there are many cities or not, and under this brand, eh, eh, the body is distributed to local tv channels and every day they show how it will be measured here, the mayor, here, the mayor, well done, the mayor, well done, here and pr is done instead of funds from local budgets. that is, it permeates the whole of ukraine, so it is possible to do pr for budget funds. there is nothing strange about it, although i think that it is necessary to draw the attention of our allies that this is stupid and that it cannot be so and must be opened people's eyes , although i have a big doubt here, people how they will eat this rule, they will swallow it, they will

believe what they are told, well, ukrainians really have no alternative but to follow these difficult paths, not always direct, but to move towards a real european democracy, in fact, we are not conducting these discussions in order to destroy unity in order to remind that unity is built precisely on values ​​and values ​​have long been known to everyone of this value in the lisbon agreement, these are values, it is not just some kind of freedom, which is spherical in a vacuum, and so on. freedom is also freedom of speech, freedom freedom of thought and so on and the like, that is, these things that can be felt, this is freedom , for example, to defend oneself in a free and impartial court, for example, and not one where all kinds of ruffians sit . what are you talking about here, that everything is bad for us, viktor, and here is an example with olesya ilashchuk, yes, what a

sexologist, psychologist and connoisseur of precious jewels, who was appointed on a mission in bulgaria, and now they say that they are recalling her and will look for her replacement it is ok, that's victory. it's just that word, citizenship of the society, not only that. it's the best method, well, there are no universal methods, but it's a very cool method. it's that the authorities in our country have been fooling around with scictology. well , it's being cleaned up, too. well, so that the others don’t care, although there will always be efforts to arrange their own from there, from godfather to er, well, conditionally, we will be adults there to mistresses to there, friends from childhood with someone , sat on the potty with whom they still went to school somewhere.

so there will be such efforts, there are such efforts always and under any government, yes and now they can criticize there and what about poroshenko , why didn’t he hire lutsenko, the godfather of his people, and there is only one, or a fellow soldier. did n’t he hire there, too, right there yatsenyuk there, well, there will be such efforts all the time and all around, eh, but also civil society to monitor this and from this monitor to mock and pile on these, so that the weapons of the proletariat will be pushed and make the government in such a case ridiculous. well, i will watch over the citizens - and in this case, we have it we need to appeal not only to the citizens, but to the embassy there, guys, you guys give money, well, help us follow up , let's give them a bloody diarrhea so that they don't do something like this, well, frankly, it's not fair, frankly, so that it doesn't happen, damn it, so that

it doesn't to laugh because you can’t do that, what is he doing from the mud of the prince today, er, a cynologist, tomorrow, do a movie today, a sexologist, tomorrow, there, er, in representing ukraine in some country, and so that there is no such disorder. we must teach the government, we must also from our civil society from of our snakes, well, that is, from you, from such mass media that are respected let's put it this way, well, if not among ordinary citizens, then at least among buying citizens, and expresso the fifth channel is a heroic channel that is associated with revolutions with ours and which is why mom probably and they want to keep their mouths shut, but uh, through civil society, the media and allies, to constantly put pressure on the authorities, otherwise when we wake up, we have a terrible

paradox: we are fighting for freedom, but we can become a country not free, well, that's it, that's exactly radar the questions that are trying to be done there while we are focused on what is happening at the front and also trying to help our military thank you mr. viktor for the conversation viktor buzhenko political scientist was in touch with us volodymyr lysenko morning the minister of music of ukraine is already with us also by vadym. good morning. today there were reports that the residents of kyiv and buchi heard some loud explosions, and the russian media are reporting some fires there, but the russian snake. there is no air going on, so it is clear how to believe them, nevertheless, maybe you know more about the nature of those explosions or sounds , some official information about the fact that there is nothing dangerous, that is, there is no air alarm, there were no objects, so

in principle, a little later, it will be obvious dana some more detailed information, but we can say that there is nothing to worry about, that is, there is nothing in the regional area, there is no attack from the russian federation on the left bank of kyiv . okay, ap volodymyr, i will also ask such loud information was made public by mr. oleksiy golovani, a lawyer, that the ministry of internal affairs and the national police had closed the case of andriy portnov. they did not find any evidence of his involvement in illegal activities. crimes well, to be honest , i don't know anything at all about this information, that's why i'm not ready to comment here, that is, i just had to warn you, so that i would like to know about it, because i'm the first from you to be honest, i hear about it well, we

will talk about it with you too. please tell me what is happening in general, how should we evaluate it? is it in our hands, uh, some wars are so far small between putin and the beautiful adventurer , he is trying to show that he is needed and that he is the most in general, the most important thing in this war, eh , meanwhile, they say that putin may be taking measures to undermine prigozhyn's own efforts to raise his status in russian society, well, first of all, i 'd just like to correct you a bit no wars between prigologen and putin because prigologen has brought to that level a person who could fight with putin at this moment, in principle, information wars are really happening, very tough er public and for us this is a big plus between privologen and the ministry of defense and general by the headquarters of the russian

federation, why are these wars being waged, they are being brought in, first of all, to try to break into the highest political league in the russian federation, that is, the attached person has set himself a goal already now, we can definitely say enter this highest league russian politics is translated into human language, and to gain influence on the future opinion on at least one of the factions, but the appetite, as we understand it, passes during the meal, so in this case, the war between the general staff and wagner is a war on the field, first of all, on the political in the future, a beauty from one side from the other side, e.e. due to what is coming. stepped on the throat not only of the general staff and not only of the ministry of defense, e.e. the story with the convicts - in fact, he entered the territory of the minister of sadder affairs. he entered the territory of e-e of their prison administration, all of them. he entered the

territory of the russian border guard. he entered the territory of the fsb, and of course he cannot help but understand that if he stops his information shaft, if i do not show that only he is fighting, only he knows what to do next, and so on. -he can be destroyed physically, so actually, he will be and further, i think to increase this informational vaccination and for us, this is definitely a huge plus, why a huge plus, because uh, in the background , especially in the background of make-up, uh, who opened the eyes of millions of russians are the incompetence of their leadership and the fact that mobs can be destroyed by hundreds actually due to the stupidity of their leadership against the background of a very aggressive policy of information policy, a beauty who says that only he is fighting, and trust in the army is falling among the army - this is the only reason for pride for a russian for the last many centuries, not

only decades, there is only falling trust in the army in principle, but it is one of the key pillars of russian russian society, therefore, for us, of course, it is a huge gift that they are fighting among themselves, the competition is now legitimized by all the prisoners who fought in this war of wagner, because they make heroes out of them, they put some commemorative plaques on their graves, those who were convicted of pedophilia are installed by children stand with this army or now these statements about what the lion can do, these soldiers can even go to the deputies of the state duma, uh, there are already some proposals for those who were imprisoned for rape. that is, this is some kind of collegitization and raising of their status, well, this is not just logistics, this is verification speak straight text and i will repeat myself once again from my point of view,

this is a huge plus for us, because there will still be a disturbance in society, whether he wants it or not, the beauty will not want it, but two months will pass and we will see a whole series of new crimes that will do uh-huh ziks who have now uh-huh returned from the front. therefore, in this case, this flywheel will spin up. and i really hope that it will somehow lead to well, drop by drop, but it will lead to a disturbance in russian society, not really this at the beginning of the year, we can say that for the first time in these 10 days of 10 more than 10 months of war in the russian federation, uh , something like this is happening. are very afraid of this global mobilization and uh, we

are standing. now i really would not like to rush ahead, but for the first time in these places of war i can say that we have a window of opportunity that local socio-economic e- is surges are not riots, of course, but such small explosions of a local socio-economic nature, if this happens, it will be a prologue to the great revolutionary changes, and therefore, in fact, all that is worrying now is what a number of other politicians are doing now is more cool if you look at gerasimov's appointment. and actually, the changes in the leadership of his so-called e-e, everyone understands very well that gerasimov will not be able to do anything because he already showed everything he could do on february 24, but it all starts to pave the way for big e-e backroom soldiers at least for the position of the future position of the

minister of defense and the chief of the general staff because after two or three months putin comes to the conclusion that obviously something must be done, therefore, in principle, the system is starting to crack, definitely it is not yet completely settled it hasn't even broken yet, but the crack is already starting to be heard and this really opens up a certain window of opportunity for us. this one here is theoretically possible positive positive changes in russian society that starts because of its fear and because of the understanding that something is leading there plus well they clearly understand that putin has started an election campaign, which means he will be 29- th year and until the 29th year, nothing will change, part of society is beginning to understand, and that is why, and i will repeat very carefully, we have a certain window of opportunity. for certain local social

disturbances in the territory of the russian federation, what is it? thank you very much for this conversation, vadym denysenko the adviser to the minister of internal affairs of ukraine was on our airwaves. thank you, mr. vadim, i really wish that they would really start, because here is an idea that seems to me to be very healthy, which was said by this er, our military serviceman magyar , who became famous in particular for his videos. by the way e haimers of posoledar in soledar by the way, there is still some kind of silence, that is, the russians . something is not right now, there is a boisterous celebration, here is a video that they are showing somewhere from the controlled territories, everything was filmed only in the northern part of soledar, it is interesting, so while the ukrainians are posting a fresh video of the western suburbs where they are calmly walking around with weapons and you are carrying out some operations, that is, we can see from everything that the reports about the successful

capture of soledar are exaggerated so far, the russians, the russians, understand this themselves, that ’s something it looks like now we will ask roman kostenko, people's deputy of ukraine, secretary of the verkhovna rada committee on national security, defense and intelligence, and colonel of the security service of ukraine, what are your impressions of what is happening in fellows, mr. romany, good morning to you, and what are your impressions of the fact that the russians are somehow very careful about this town in the donbass . we understand that the situation there is very difficult in that direction, so we will wait for official statements from the general staff about what is happening directly there, what will be the consequences of all those battles that concern the very place of soledar, well, the enemy

now really needs a victory, after to operate in kherson after the loss of the kharkiv region, they need to show both to their mobilized and to the information space that they can seize something, even this small town where, according to our data, there are 500 people who were not able to leave there and they are already there put tens of thousands of their soldiers, and the wagner ppc of the regular army, now in order to bring putin some kind of victory. well, in this area, i have already spoken many times, and now we can clearly see how the interests of the wagner ppc have converged, so the beauty and its leader the ministry of defense, we see what is happening there now, they removed the syroviks, who were more sympathetic to kadyrov and er prigozhina, and put gerasim. although he is, in fact, the head of the

military in russia, he is the leader, so they now removed er, removed these er let's say the prigozhyns and the kadyrivs, that's why in this area now all the interests are because of, i repeat, the bandit political military and they dropped a lot of troops here according to some data there 10 times prevailed prevailed our forces, means and so on are pushing our defense, that is, now it looks like soldiers are taking part from the russian side. that is, there and in these wagnerian mercenaries, and there are also russian personnel units. that is, there are paratroopers there, regular troops of the eu, i don’t even know. the more it is possible, the more regular ones. and after you have changed, now you will see how they will begin to drag the merits for taking the soldier or for some achievements thanks to the soldier between themselves, beautiful and

regular. i think there is already a conflict there there is and then this conflict that has descended to the level of the soldiers of the wagners and of course the regular army because now the main thing is to be beautiful for himself he wanted victories and subjectivization now we remember how he said about what he has to capture the very gift that he will give this victory, and now i think that it was right to do it just when the investor did it, and we remember that he already made their statement somehow, mr. roman, here is such a thing, a couple of days ago there was a video of the arrestee, the office adviser of the president, who in a conversation with the russian opposition and the politician and lawyer feigin said that the problems, fellow soldiers, were caused by the fact that the servicemen of the armed forces somewhere got scared and ran away, etc. and this created

problems, and what about you as a military personnel, as a person who has been fighting since the 14th year, what did you feel at the same time? you commented on it. i apologize to me. the connection was lost. i only heard your last words. they say that arestovych said in a conversation with feygin. he said that it was all there. the voeguz ran away from their positions . yes, arestovych was thinking about the fact that in our army there are a lot of people who are afraid , run away, refuse, and that is why a new law was adopted, where all kinds of restrictions for the military became a little bit stricter so that there would be no such refusals, but if you have not seen this video maybe we won't discuss it then. well, listen

, er, i'll say this: well, i was against this law . i've said it many times for a long time. and even he is not yet signed by the president, but even his presence, the fact that he will be, it did not save him, he is not a soldier, i don’t think so, it is necessary to try to train people by military means, to give them all the means to create conditions for them so that they can fight morally and psychologically state er to provide because i will say that on the front there are such situations that the most morally prepared and the most psychologically stable people break down when it falls and so we don’t know for a month in a row where in a day i don’t know 1,000 shells arrive 152 or constant shelling constant pressure and lyodov have that is why we need to make rotations to train people. here it is

necessary in a different way, well modern war is very complicated and you can say that you can scare a person with a prison but he will go to prison because we will achieve but everyone will be in prison here it is necessary to approach it differently. every situation is different , and you cannot say that they are all cowards or that we all cannot fight. well, it seems to me that one of the soldiers wrote very well that in fact, in war, everyone is afraid if there are people who are not there mentally sick or some, i don't know, under drugs and accordingly it's normal to be afraid and only the one who was under these shellings, er, was in the war , was at ground zero, has the right to call someone cowards. i think it was, well, it's an instinct, look, i'll tell you that even when well, the victims are flying projectiles, you get used to it, you get used to it, and after a week or so, you begin to understand what is flying at you, what is not flying at you, and at what distance it flies, and this is also there is even fear, but you

simply have more understanding uh, you don't either that's how you perceive it, but a week goes by, if you're not at the front, i'll say you're coming again. it 's starting, it's impossible to pull it out. in the soviet union, there were 227 orders, as far as i remember. i don't step back. the 41st year is june, maybe august. yes , and we remember how long the kyiv cauldron , the prison cauldron, reached moscow, well, even a shooting, a death threat never stopped us civilized society and it is necessary to act in civilized ways, mr. roman, we found this video where an arresting officer is thinking about the heroism or not of the heroism of our soldiers, and

i still suggest that we watch it together, er, and then i would like to know your opinion , how moral is er such a person as arestovych can judge those people who are there at ground zero, there is a unit that runs in our country, well, they run in solidarity now, they don’t run, of course, but before that, there were some unstable comrades running for a long time he was like that all the time all the defense of the refuseniks is a large enough number that there is such a thing we can not fight in this terrible war like that although there is no artillery he worked no aviation the work is just stupid pearls in full height well okay rapson the position is so normal equipped infantry whoop he can hours uh, how long, keep the brigade leading to the position if there is. everything was done correctly, the fire

observation system was dug in. there are different people who refuse to radio or when they were brought in, they were roused to death, they just stood there and said, but you know, it’s not that simple here, oh the enemy, let’s run to someone 2 km back, there are those too , it’s clear that they’re not all, it’s clear that not even 10 %. but they are there and when their mouths run away from the direction. it’s like their neighbors. as a rule , it becomes very sad and they run against it, so it’s clear that it can’t be in the middle of hundreds of thousands of people and everything is solid heroes and everything is prepared there. special operations, especially this concerns the mobilized, but we have already accepted the message that the legislation against those who are against deserters is not for nothing. it was asked

by the military command. said that they didn't even have time to dig in because there was a very strong mortar shelling and when you listen to that, well, i just don't know. moreover, what he didn't say was quoted by the russian media and whether it is this really a person who is an adviser to the office of the president of ukraine, look, i will tell you that, in general, yes, what he said at the end of lc, the user already said that well, he supported me, i do not support him. i think that this is wrong about everything else what he said, i will say that there is some truth in his words, i mean that here the question is for the commanders who have to adjust the defense system, that's what

we call the control system, the communication system, i won't say that it's massive, but the truth is that the commanders are responsible for that, there are separate ones cases also there where there are moments where to fight and we talked about it with the command, i personally went there somewhere, they were just too lazy to do something later, but these are isolated cases that are in general, everything depends on the commander, the commander who is in the cities , he has to provide the communities with a panorama, that is, ok and problems of course there is a lot of what arestovych said, it has to happen, but everyone knows this, but the question is if we raise questions, then we also raise deep questions, for example, how to act now, the defense, does it correspond to all, for example, loads which fall on it, do they have enough resources, are there always motivated people, why is the command there? well, it is at the lower level of the lower ranks of the team. they are not military there. that is, they are people, just as they signed up from unknown professions in the teroboron, they do not

always understand what they are there will do perhaps it is also a matter of the fact that the time has come to reform the anti-terrorist forces, in principle, the units as such, well, for example, if this is a discussion, then we are somehow conducting it constructively, and not just saying that there are heroes and cowards is not about that this is not a conversation at all about what, cool, that’s just a rhetorical question. well, the most electric question i have is when you look at arestovych in some third place, how did he give public opinion to ukrainians? in the background, well , it's difficult with this. well, mr. roman, and thank god that there are and uh, there are people, there are people like our interlocutor, roman kostenko . thank you, one of the legendary cyborgs, who is joining us today, mr. roman . thank you tv e- e for assessing the situation roman

kostenko, people's deputy of ukraine, secretary of the verkhovna rada committee on national security, defense and intelligence, and a colonel of the security service of ukraine, was in touch with us . there was news that the russians shelled kharkiv. were supposed to be active until eight o'clock on the 12th a-a well, now let's take a minute to remember all those whose lives were taken by the russian war against ukraine well, after that , you will also receive news about what happened in the last hour and now a minute we will honor the memory of the ukrainian military and peaceful citizens of ukraine with a moment of silence