because the political society, in principle , in its essence, is quite barren in terms of public activity of everyone here, well, most of those who tried to resist, oppose them, were either squeezed out abroad or imprisoned or simply physically destroyed, that is, there are different options, so then i think that he unfortunately, he feels confident enough, and this confidence can be undermined first of all by the consolidated position of our western partners, who should say that mr. putin, we will not watch over this calmly. how do you do freedom how you violate the norms of international law, we will fight against you, and these signals must be sent constantly, yevgeny, this is the information that appeared, and yevhena

is the head of the lawyer about the fact that the ministry of internal affairs, the police from the e acquitted and actually closed the criminal case against andriy portnov, e-e, a well- known figure who is in by the way, he will not be subject to american sanctions, but in ukraine. it turns out that he is now clean before the law, so far today they tried to get it, but this came as a surprise to our interlocutor, the spokesperson e- e councilor and to me of the right things, mr. denisenko, that is, it is still not widely publicized, the main news was that you heard about it and how can you explain it, well, about the fact that all animals are equal, but some are more rivkind that portnov was the initiator and inspirer of the adoption and

criminal -procedural code, he was currently in force, he was the initiator and inspirer of the persecution of oppositionists and in the 19th year he proposed to make proscription lists, it is no secret that he, er, well, practically in the literal sense, students and graduates, some teachers of shevchenko university, they spoke returned to the cpr in accordance with constitutional law. do not forget that he left the borders of ukraine in the spring as a volunteer, so i think that now we should constantly raise the issue in the media, look for ways out there to austrian colleagues, to italian ones, our media should also ask how there is well, how is the volunteer mr. partnuv well, the question is, what about the people who

released him in this way from ukraine? they have, it seems to me, not actively, at least , administrative responsibility. actually, i will not be at all surprised if it turns out that oksana marchenko has also filed an appeal or cassation in the supreme court of ukraine so that all the sanctions that were imposed on her by the president's decree were also removed from her. i know what we can expect now, mrs. marchenko will come to our kokoshnik. a whole blockbuster was filmed by a pilgrim, according to how she

visited various temples. well, actually, we have freedom of conscience and no one should say in which temple to whom to pray, but after oksana marchenko came to light with her husband in the occupied crimea after he was exchanged for our positions. i think that here, well, there are some countermeasures against her that allowed her to count on something positive. well, that is, there are things in which ukraine ultimately has in my opinion just show your teeth, just show your own. well, if you want, they are capable of self-preservation otherwise. if we don't do this before, we have no one to do it. thank you, mr. yevhena yevhen magne, executive

director of the institute of world politics we're in touch, and now we'll talk a little about the fact that some changes for the better are supposedly taking place in ukraine, but sometimes in those changes for the better, some old characters creep in. and this week, in fact, the election to the supreme council of justice took place er judges and it seems like the process is good but nevertheless it took place as usual a little bit like old traditions actually after a year's downtime the supreme council of justice will finally be able to start work, the extraordinary congress elected eight of its representatives, and therefore ukraine fulfilled one more of the seven necessary conditions for the conditions that are necessary for the start of negotiations on joining the european union, what is the high council of justice and what is its role in the judicial

reform ? the worst did not happen, the extraordinary congress of judges still elected eight members of the supreme council of justice, which means that a quorum has appeared in the body and it will be able to start work after almost a year of downtime. punishing offending judges, in particular from collaborating judges , gives permission for transfer from one court to another, as well as for the resignation of a judge, in addition, it is impossible to fill more than 2.5 thousand judicial vacancies that have arisen in recent years in the country , so the cases can be considered years she can start working and she has a lot of work, so this is to some extent a historic moment and i am very much counting together with my colleagues from the monomajority and with all my colleagues indeed, the year 2023 will be devoted to a total

reboot of the judicial system, and this is a clear condition not only for our european integration aspirations, it is a key condition for the normal life and functioning of the country, the decisions of the congress of judges have already been welcomed by the ambassadors of the g7 countries in the west, for many years they have been saying that the key reform in ukraine must have a judiciary without it, there is no question of joining the european union until the previous composition of the supreme council of justice, the public had many questions even before the war, the parliament created an ethical the council, which was supposed to check the members of the vrp for integrity, but most of them did not wait for the audit and voluntarily resigned, de facto blocking the work of the body for almost a year until new members of the vrp according to the quota of judges, public activists also have questions, but they received the green light from the ethics council to talk about any issues regarding the integrity of judges or representatives who were elected to the high council of justice

today well, it is very difficult because they all passed the filter provided by the current law, the first meeting was updated can carry out the next task already in january - to reload the higher qualification commission of judges, another important body for judicial reform, it is hardly worth doubting that the system will continue to resist change well, actually, about who was elected, what kind of people are they? can we rely on their virtue , purity, untaintedness, stepana berko, lawyer, advocacy manager of the de jure foundation, contact us now, let's analyze a little of all the eight members of the supreme council of justice, mr. stepan. have a good day. yes mr. stepan, we can’t hear you, we just work here in such conditions, in which the russians drove us into hiding and, accordingly, sometimes

there are all kinds of surprises, yes or no. well, tell us something else. can we hear you? i can hear you. that you are satisfied with the fact that you elected these eight members of the supreme council of justice. i am satisfied with the fact that the supreme council of justice is finally empowered. of judges will not be able to fill all eight vacancies, fortunately, what happened now when it comes to who exactly was elected to the supreme council of the lane. of course, many people are now complaining on social networks and in general about the fact that they did not elect a worthy one, that is, what is allegedly actually about each of those persons who were

elected to the supreme council of justice has a question regarding the integrity of the people. of course , i and my colleagues have these concerns, but it must be admitted that from the list analyzed by the ethics council, there were not so many organizations that were agents of radical changes. of changes in the world path. well, let's be the ones who put her work on the radical ones. unfortunately, out of 16 candidates, only four candidates were not commented on and there were no automatic checks on their things. none of these four were chosen by the documents of the high council of justice of those who were appointed are the largest number of people killing property to the wheel of heating decisions, for example, during

vacations to several - this is a visit to three of the russian federation or perform the territory of ukraine e-e since 2015, that is, a list of issues unfortunately, we do not give dietary degrees to candidates of ukraine, mr. stepan. well, we understand that it is actually important to have a 51% controlling share, conditionally speaking, that is, if society, virtuous judges, have that controlling share, conditionally speaking, it will work accordingly, are we the body itself, or now it seems that after all, well, if the light side prevails in this extremely important body that will be responsible for cleaning the judicial corps, i would say that now the supreme council of justice is dominated by a kind of gray side. that is, there is no obviously directed by such a reputation. well,

it is completely black and there is a minority of people. it has a long history of public struggle and public position for reforms. it is too early for me to say what kind of offenses we had in november of the supreme council. the first decisions are needed for a long time by the body. they actually will be an indicator, as for me, the first decision that we need to carefully follow is that and who will be elected as the chairman and when the higher councils of justice because where they are not there are some chiefs or management of these bodies we have very but the one who receives the support of the majority of the members of the supreme council of justice, this person is usually a group of people. they will shape the agenda, they will shape the vector in which

this body will move, well actually. also, i think the most important such indicator of the efficiency and quality of the work of the new supreme council of justice will be the review disciplinary complaints regarding the most odious points to, first of all , district judges, i will remind you that in the previous case of one hair of the supreme council of justice who remained on their own kutakh and passed the check of the political council, there were other decisions of the second one above, there will be a good scandal, and mr. stepan, there is another question -

it concerns the law that reforms the constitutional court of ukraine. i will remind you that this is also one of the key requirements for further admission or ukraine's accession to the european union is one of the requirements that were given to us, which we must fulfill in order to confirm the candidacy, the status of the candidate, which i remind you that you can take away . yes, we were already given it, and it seems that formally this law has been adopted, but there i am i understand there are many stories, if very briefly, what are the dangers of that law, the main danger is that the commission that will check the future judges of the constitutional court will consist of half of political appointees, which means that this process will continue to be politicized. and that is precisely why the

venice commission in its to the updated conclusion that she published in december last year, she drew attention to the fact that it is necessary to add one more independent member to the composition of this commission, where it can be as a representative of international experts or someone from civil society yesterday evening the european commission expressed and published its official statement where it congratulated on the one hand the formation of the high council of justice and on the other hand drew attention to the fact that it is necessary to make changes to the law on the constitutional court. i hope that the ukrainian authorities will accept this signal and in the near future in time we will see changes to this law, let's hope eh mr. stepanu stepan berko employee lawyer induction manager of the de jure foundation was in touch with us thank you for this conversation, well, now

we are adding yevgenia kravchuk, people's deputy of ukraine, mrs. yevgenia , to our ether. they have a relationship with the opzj, but yesterday, well , since we do not have the opportunity to see any broadcast from the verkhovna rada, fortunately for volodymyr vyatrovych, he decided to post a transcript of what actually happened in the session, so we understand that it was restless and heated because from that transcript it is clear that first, the actual issue of removing the mandates of these deputies was included in the agenda, and then this issue somehow disappeared from the agenda, and then, after the insistence of some of the people's elected representatives

from the political forces, this issue was returned why, in particular, the servants of the people did not want to talk about the issue of removing the mandates for five people's elected officials. well, you know, it's funny to hear that, because as they say, the president would not have made the decrees and there would not have been without the removal of the deprivation of citizenship. would be uh deprivation of the mandate of these deputies and all these procedural things, and what we have to consider first, you know, it reminds me of such political games, sometimes they just look frivolous, especially for a warring country , and i’ll tell you simply, what, uh, well, they switched places in these issues are on the agenda because it was considered there, it was supposed to consider bills first, and we thought so. yes, what will be

considered for a bill where in the homeland there were hundreds and hundreds of amendments. unfortunately, not all of our deputies are disciplined, they want to be there, maybe to leave work early. of course, everyone wanted to remove the mandate from medvedchuk and the goat. and after that, probably go home. well, that’s how it all turned out. first, there were mandates, then edits, and in the end , no decision could be made except for the site, but just me i think that at the next meeting there will be a vote on the energy volume and a series of laws that, unfortunately, they did not have time to adopt because of these spams, which are gaining approval because they were counted for 30 votes each, and, of course, the mandates, of course, were removed there 300 + of votes medvedchuk set a record of 320. hmm , i scored for this withdrawal and i am sure that this is not the last such vote. of course, it would be easier if they wrote statements of

their own free will. how is it, for example, from a pen that was late? for example, we voted on the same meetings of aksenov at his own will is, well, a completely constitutional basis , well, if not, then it is obvious that uh, it will be some kind of longer process. it is uh, obviously , law enforcement agencies will check for the presence of some other citizenship, well, that is, look for legal constitutional ways or, for example, to check who has changed their place of residence, or many people have gone abroad and have not returned to our airwaves, the people's deputy of ukraine. i am mrs. inno. good day to you too . i wanted you i want to ask because i saw a photo of you yesterday on the page from the verkhovna rada hall, which you signed, so they blocked the tribune with the girls in order to consider the removal of the mandates of the mps of the upsj,

and how was your friday ? photos and in fact, your colleague yevgenia just said that the actual vote on the removal of the mandates was set a little later so that the deputies did not run away from the session hall and flood the stands, well, look, of course i am happy to hear such optimistic messages from the representative of the party, the servant of the people, but let's be honest to say well, it looks at least strange when there is an agenda that is proposed that everyone has already seen, where the first questions are questions about the deprivation of the mandates of mps of the upj, suddenly, an hour before the meeting, another agenda appears daytime but why are these questions being postponed, well, this is true, it raises questions. and all the more so because everyone understood that the question that was raised first was ultimately a question on the energy atom bill, everyone understood that it would be

delayed. everyone understood that there are several hundred amendments to it that yulia tymoshenko will put on voting that eventually took place yes, in the end, we then voted for 3 hours on the draft law in the energy atom, and in the end, it was not voted on, i want to tell you because the deputies just split up and there were not enough votes, so you know, in order to we didn't have to arrange the meeting yesterday in the verkhovna rada, you just have to try to play by the rules and not try to change the agenda at the last moment, then you are the question, who didn't have it ? not disciplined enough and many wanted to leave earlier if they hadn't rearranged the voting like this because everyone would have left and so on really so and then this low rating of the parliament in the eyes of the voters is justified or

still, well, i don’t want to believe it. i ca n’t believe that. for example, well, i don’t know. journalists are sitting there working. everyone is sitting working. the military will invest now. my life somewhere under the bahmut, and the deputies wanted to go home earlier well, i can't believe it i want to say that well, i don't want to believe it, tell me that it's not true, please can i react, you know, i came with a cold you probably hear yes, i sat through all the corrections yuliya volodymyrivna tymoshenko, even uh, understanding what is probably voting , there will not be a vote. and here, you probably know when, uh, i'm watching here. panina will agree with me, she also researched this question, what uh, when well, i think there will be no majoritarians, but at the time when the majoritarians were elected there for some, i don’t know, platforms for uh, there are uh, food balls, uh, that’s where it all

comes from. because they had businesses there, and this is the ground for this there may be well, apparently our faction is not as disciplined as it is well, the level of presence there is quite high, i don’t know how the voice here will be less but there are many people who go on business trips, for example, that’s why well, things are so different, but look, we we follow how the responsible deputies are, how are they the majority so that decisions are made and i, for example , generally went aside, i went to the plenary ski full-fledged and uh well, more like they worked as planned, well, somehow the conciliation council can come to this decision someday, what to allow, i say yes, let’s go let's look at the facts. i'm looking to disappoint our respected host, but the fact remains that after how many three hours you sat and voted on amendments to the bill on energy, and finally, 30 minutes before the

formal end of the meeting, the speaker said, unfortunately, we are running out of time and we will vote on the bill itself, not amend the bill next time, although there was more than enough time for 30 minutes, one bill can already be blocked when all the amendments have passed, but it was clear that there are simply not enough votes design, this is a fact that remains, and unfortunately, a large part of the deputies you, uh, are not very responsible about their work. here, too, i think that the question or the voters were followed and saw showing up for work. autonaziya has what yesterday's meeting was such that we, as voters, as citizens of ukraine, should not have known, and not only us, it is possible for our enemies to be some kind of state secret, because i do not think that every voter of ukraine has signed, for example, on the page and i don’t want to see that photo

to find out that the podium was blocked yesterday or that not everyone is subscribed to the page of iryna gerashchenko, who posted a part of the transcript, in fact, where all these vicissitudes took place in relation to where the question of voting on the deprivation of the mandates of the police officers actually disappeared. well, what is that? we would not be able to see the training in a live broadcast or in a broadcast that would be shown later or at least in the honest informational work of the tv channel, which receives, for example, 120 million in funding, and i understand that almost not illuminates the work of the verkhovna rada. what is the point? well, i think that here of course. it would be good if evgenia and as a representative of the profile i am ready. i noticed. why not online? well, what happened today, for example, in raykivka? the alarm happened after the arrivals. yes, when there are certain types of missiles there,

if they are ballistic or somehow they are there, land , land, and well, this is impossible, even eh. sometimes so catch and well, if it's online the verkhovna rada is broadcast - it is the only legislative body, everything will not be in the verkhovna rada, laws can not be adopted there in the verkhovna rada, well, it is at least some basic , er, minimum safety rules so as not to broadcast online, and by the way, the rada tv channel is both meeting, i.e. both days, she must show me, maybe she already showed me, or in their flesh there, where you can set a long period. hmmm, i’m honestly not quite convinced that our voters will be interested in listening to uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, amendments in uh, uh, in yulia volodymyrivna, where are those there referred to as is it correct to write the word society with a capital letter or with a small letter? i think that this is a waste of even good taxpayers , but it’s obvious, and even this is

possible. then you can really choose to see what the deputies are, how is it time? they answered the broadcast and online, well, that is, at least some basic e-e security. yes, i will tell you, matvii , they knew that we were sitting and on the other side of the company, you, well, really, i went in for 17 minutes there, some there, that’s all glued together now, 17 minutes, yesterday, then that is on e tv channel council posted on the youtube channel i just look at which of the speakers is just two times arahamiya several people from trust three people from tymoshenko this is what democracy looks like now this is what freedom of speech looks like objective balanced presentation of information you didn't understand apparently the mandates were discussed that way there were several speakers and well,

there weren't many and then there were 200 rules well, i don't know it's a neogram according to the transcript that was laid out, now i'll try to find it quickly somewhere according to this transcript as far as i know there was a word in iryna gerashchenko also had a word about artur gerasimov, mrs. inno, can you give us a hint , she digs the most. believe me, i am sitting right in front of her, i am telling solomiya, but this is not there, for example, in the information message for 18 minutes from the rada tv channel, or is it the rada tv channel that works only for the majority deputies and those who support it. is it fair that the broadcast is shown in full on youtube? it is shown there in its full version, because deputies always cut their speeches somewhere in the memory of the social network in order to see themselves well, as far as i remember. well, i haven't checked, but we voted on the first day to broadcast this broadcast in its entirety. then

, in what year was the inno company? your vision is the same as ms. yevgeny's. no, of course, look. i think that actually, ms. yevgenia is also now in such a situation where she is forced to defend the decision of the authorities, but in fact they still perfectly understand that purely mathematically , even if you look at it, the representation of some political parties and groups on the state- controlled channel is much greater than the other thing is what you just said that, uh, in the 17-minute video, there was time for the speech of our solomia bobrovska or representatives of european solidarity. well, this is telling and it’s not the first time, so it’s always an established practice for the practice of censorship, which, unfortunately, now it is covered by martial law, it is disgraceful, i am sorry, it is not what he is paying for. i want to understand whether the trust or the european solidarity once promised themselves some kind of collaboration with the russian federation, or whether there are currently their representatives in the

temporarily occupied territories, which are noticed in the collaboration because such representatives are, for example, in a bunch of factions or former factions that remain in the parliament , including among the servants of the people, then why exactly these factions are removed from the airwaves, why exactly their position should not be heard throughout the country, well , really, ladies, i think what are we saying at all, maybe you can’t hear me or i’m hoarse, we voted and that’s how it’s happening, i even have some of this letter that was sent, we checked it on the stage that the full broadcast was shown on the soviet tv channel, i’m saying that i doubt it is expedient in this informational right to listen to these amendments for three hours, which received 30 votes each, and below, and all these speeches are theirs. well, they will show more of that in the law on the media. we adopted this amendment somewhere . councils