i will speak. this means that he loses the only cossack that he has. and then i apologize. sweden can become a center for the very kursk groups that he does not like so much on purpose, and it will not solve any problems. yes, but political points from this eridogan does he get any or, on the contrary, can he lose now is a complex person he lives in the world of his own realities what is a political bank but he gets political points from the fact that he destroyed the turkish economy in essence no but he probably thinks so well he and destroyed well, by and large, he destroys the role of turkey in nato because when he spoke with these demands, held these negotiations, met with the leaders of sweden and finland, he reached some kind of compromise, despite all the antipathies to his demand that were there among the kursk organization from the point of view of the public, it looked like that a wise politician, who you said he was worried about, settled the situation, didn't mess around

in sweden, in finland, donated, supported european euro-atlantic solidarity , first of all, when will he continue this in in this form, he will be a person who will look like a destroyer of the security system, that is, i repeat sweden to finland - this is not a question because they need to provide them, they are very necessary in the conditions of war that exist . turkey is a key player in its region , but sweden, sweden itself is a key player in their region, the fact that the swedes managed to be invited there at all, by and large, the swedes did not really want all of this finland, let's think more deeply for 20 years, no one even dreamed of such happiness, finland was just scared borders with russia, sweden does not have a border with russia. if finland joins nato and sweden itself, well, sweden will still be surrounded by the countries of the championship on all sides . nato needs

it. they basically agree on a mutual agreement and they can not figure out why they are talking to them like that. they are not some poor relative, you know, this is not even an issue of ukraine, but we need to join nato to protect us, to be protected, but sweden is located like this, has such an army and such an opportunity that it is able to protect its partners from real dangers without sweden, it is much more difficult to do this, it strengthens nato at about the same level at which nato is strengthened turkishally , because turkey tried the gulfs with access to the gulfs with all this, it really strengthens nato because it turns the black sea into a lake, and sweden turns the baltic sea into a lake. without sweden, this cannot be achieved. if i were the secretary general of nato, i would do everything possible. you see that mr.

you are talking about this, he is a norwegian, you know , after all, they were in the same state for a century, norwegians understand exactly the military potential of sweden and the political opportunities and the behavior of the ethnograd, she is not, but this is how she is irresponsible if it ends with sweden not joining nato, it is will be a defeat of a strategic nature, i will tell you honestly, we simply cannot understand it from our side, from our side of europe. the continent, precisely thanks to its opportunities in the baltics, then they may not forgive if he does not send the payment, of course he has to agree with regard to european integration. it is interesting that you said that poland may be against putting forward its demands. and to us, although poland is

such a great ally, everyone immediately mentions the reserve all the problems of the boss should be resolved in this way. but our prime minister has been beaten, and somehow you know he is more optimistic about this, he says that ukraine can join the european union within the next two years, not too many months. well, look, i don't know what information the head of ukrainsky is relying on. i'm just starting from the usual arithmetic. well, let's remove the issue of the end of the war, the more the victory of the nonprostopa can be conducted during our time. first of all, we need this not to happen yet, so that the european commission conducts appropriate monitoring and recognizes that we correspond to the status of a candidate for membership of the european union. they said that in the spring there will be some control monitoring, but in the fall of 2023 it is already official, which means in this situation in the fall of 2023 we will

i hope that the european commission will say that we have fulfilled all these conditions that we had to fulfill before granting us this status. from this moment, monitoring of ukrainian legislation by the european commission begins. as a rule , such monitoring continues for approximately one and a half to two years. i hope that in our case it will pass faster, although it's a big job because we have to monitor what the legislation of the republic will have to do at the moment, if you remember , we're entering together in general. processes i hope that there is boldova in the fall receives a satisfactory evaluation because you still have to understand the simple thing that now russia will do everything possible to destabilize

the situation in moldova, bring pro-russian forces to power there and thus close the possibility of real negotiated accession to ukraine. because all the time there will be the problem with mr. and the european commission will have to either develop this couple or what to do, i.e. make some non-standard decisions, when bulgaria blocked the beginning of victory, there was simply no entry into the european union from north macedonia negotiations with albania, when austria has now blocked entry into schengen, romania did not accept bulgaria, life does not look very good, but it is like that in the european union, so let's hope that all this will not succeed, so let's hope that in 2024 or somewhere in 2025, the negotiations themselves will begin, the negotiations themselves as more than once here, somewhere, even on this broadcast, i told about

certain sections that should be closed one by one. and that means, as a rule, the process of closing such sections continues from eight o'clock in the most optimistic that we have an option until 15 o'clock. in a more pessimistic version of the years for the entry of such countries, turkey, this section is closed for now, we will assume that we are a country that is entering the european union and that can enter faster than others . another point will be added, there is no other point, that is the republic of serbia , all these sections are written there, serbia has started to close them in principle, there is another point, the settlement of relations between the republic of serbia,

the republic of kosovo, and sir. they told me it seems in the past. they said we will fulfill the other point when we close all the divisions. excuse me, you first fulfill the other point and then we return to the negotiations of the cold of the european union, it just does not happen exactly like that, it was directed from north macedonia, they fulfilled all the conditions, the negotiations were supposed to start, and here it turned out that another point of settlement relations with greece with greece by name with bulgaria for historical monuments, these negotiations stood still for about 10 years. if we join the european union, it 's more about the economy, about the market, is it a union

or on which defense obligations are mandatory in relation to each other . that's why russia doesn't want us to access it, it's just never applied. but it's so and then there is another very important point that in order for this country to join the european union , it is necessary to have the agreement of these members , it is automatically considered by the european commission that if, say, serbia does not resolve the issue of relations with kosovo, then many countries that are near this region, they will not want to go to serbia because it will be a crisis region and there is no point in continuing the negotiations until the criticism ends, not only in reforms, there are reforms in the med, in mass information, in freedom of speech, everyone is independent , there are many sections, it is possible simple sections look. this is a book. there is no such thing. there is a part of the agreement on the freedom of the market. politicization has been carried out. all this is there, but it is. i

say it again. i think that we may not have such a clause. i am not saying that it will be. i i'm just saying that if i said a simple thing, if this clause does not exist, it will be 2030-2032, if this clause will be 2035-2037, well, everything i said, but it was not said in two years, the head says, i don't know, maybe after 2023, it will be 2037 immediately. i read it in this outfit, in the adventures of baron munchausen, it was like that, it was possible to do it there, maybe it will be possible with us, on the other hand, you know, i could tell you that it is, but on the other hand, the world is changing so quickly that it can be right -wing knows the situation, you understand, it is non-standard. i am telling you about countries that joined the european union in peacetime, and we are talking about wartime, and here the question is

always what is cheaper, shall we say, to quickly accept the country into the european union in order to rebuild its economy with european funds, so that there is a common market, so that everything will rise quickly, or to keep it on the doorstep and all the time receiving like a poor relative of 10 years old, well, you also have to sit down and weigh up, just sit down and take it here, put in a column of numbers and say, you know, we will negotiate with them, but during this time we will only pay them billions dollars and if we take them, we will open the way to free investment, we will open the borders for our business, all this without cash, without any customs duties, without this, we will transport it, and then we will open the way for the labor force, etc., and so on, then we

will spend half as much money there less for the development of this territory for the fact that it has become part of the common market. then you can do it really should be done sooner because it is possible that there will simply be no money to support ukraine after this war, and maybe then it will be necessary to support by money, namely by the presence of a common space , you understand because then, let's say , polish, german, any enterprises will be opened in ukraine, they will be guaranteed by european legislation, something different from their own, and there will be no need to allocate money for some kind of support for the ukrainian economy. an investor will be afraid to go here because there will be no guarantee of capital preservation if you think in such an informal way, maybe the european commission will monitor the legislation sooner, maybe they will be closed sooner these maps can be like that. i don’t know how in two

years, the truth is, in the coming weeks, they will come on a working visit in accordance with ukraine, but what exactly are they supposed to do here, it’s not about monitoring, it’s possible about some kind of whistleblowing, the financial ones have something to talk about here, they can talk about how the work on european legislation is developing, there is a lot of work, you understand , and besides the war, but this is also solidarity, it is a demonstration of the fact that ukraine is part of this european uh-uh, it's just that, you see, many such processes have accelerated, by the way ukraine ukraine is fine, it is clear that moldova received the status of a candidate also because this war began, the truth is that it would be a long time for a young person to wait for it, and here you are and herzegovina became a candidate for the

european union in parallel, well, after a month there are several. so, in principle, this was not considered when austria only raised the question that bosnia and the duchy should receive the status of a candidate for the european union. austrian politicians were looked at as dangerously ill. just look at austria, in fact, as strange as it sounds. it was almost alone with this idea and received complete support, simply because everyone understands that now that, relatively speaking, serbia is also a candidate member of the european union and allied with russia, then there is a serious danger to overall stability in the region and to the stability of bosnia and herzegovina and the fear that a new war will start there, it exceeds all questions about the imperfection of the state structure of bosnia , although bosnia and herzegovina seemed far from ukraine, in the matter of ukraine, in this

sense, i did not play well, i did not play before, i did not play before, because there was no such thing, you know, i should have played in favor of ukraine. fear, when there was his slavic war, it was simply not of such a scale. and i thought that the west doesn't understand. when he sees it, all this is that if it starts in our country, it will start on a completely different scale. well, it's still on the territory of the former yugoslavia. the former yugoslavia itself is smaller than ukraine. on the scale of military two at least something like that and if it is the former soviet union , it is just a catastrophe well, it is obvious that this entire space needs to be dragged into the civilized world just to prevent winnie, but everyone somehow thought that there it is a conflict in europe and here it is like everyone else otherwise well, they were mistaken. by the way, the world situation is changing a bit, but now the fine jackass is already writing about the fact that and china already

believes that it is possible that ukraine will win, russia will lose in this war, respectively, and wants to mend relations with western countries p vitaly, what do you think about this, for me it was not a sensational article, the more so it was with reference to anonymous sources and i read the chinese prize and i read uh in south china mally post it seems to me that on the eve of the new year a big report about the conference of chinese of experts conducted by the global times newspaper, it is a newspaper of the communist party of china, which is for english-speaking children, and there were absolutely no anonymous people who spoke there, but people with the positions of directors of some scientific centers of universities, leading experts of such and such. i will not remind you to mention them now surnames because i just read it all carefully and wrote it down somewhere, but it’s all people from the

governing bodies of the chinese communist party, it’s not just some expert who came and mr. we stagger, he also said, although it’s clear that this is a high-ranking person, but he didn’t want to speak completely calmly, they spoke they said roughly the same things, not so sharply , of course, because they spoke for themselves, but first of all they said that it was obvious that russia was losing influence, they said it out loud and that china absolutely did not need to orientate itself on this on this loss of influence, because china needs to think about its own national interests, they said, one of these leading experts said that china should demonstrate the humanistic quality of its policy in the new situation, because now bombs are falling on women and children, they are without light and heat and china should help the population. by the way, kazakhstan. he also opened a yurt of indomitability in buchi. that’s how you understand the signal.

you understand that the embassy of kazakhstan without the consent of the president or germany from the position of i it is not at all known where they were assigned, but he feels absolutely confident, so they told him where the yurt is, why is there still no yurt in bucha, and he is building a whole network of yurts, we can thank the kazakh people for this help, returning to china, this is the same opinion that we cannot close our eyes to the suffering of the peace center because china knows that such suffering is possible, in fact, there is a historical experience of such a war in some kind of vacuum in which the civilian population suffers, and there were many such conclusions, and i read this text and thought about the trajectory of political thinking tai's elitists are changing loudly because it is clear that

it is the leadership of the people's republic of china that is in principle calmly watching all this. russia is weakening, the west is looking at russia, it is not looking at them. china has china, according to a certain calculation, its hands are untied not in taiwan, but in the race for relations with indian relations with pakistan. and this is an important track of competition between the united states in general in southeast asia, in other words, there are many such moments in which it is beneficial for china to continue this war. but at the same time, it is already beginning to realize that russia in this war, it weakens china. it is obvious that it weakens things from many parables , it weakens because, first of all, it proves

the effectiveness of democracy, not dictatorship , for an authoritarian state - the state absolutely does not need it, and we. yesterday, i think, mr. hari and i were just discussing that this is such a parallel from the greco-persian war between the times of antiquity, when small democracies of cities, in fact, cities not even united into some state territory , defeated a huge empire that led an army of 250 thousand people, that's about them like putin in ukraine, and the greeks were sent 7.5 military personnel, seven and a half thousand well, they drove out the peppers, you understand that in general . if they took place this victory of these 7.5 thousand people, we should find the graves of each one, although it is usually impossible to put flowers next to each one, we lived in a completely different world, it wouldn't

have been that's why democracy is the same word, it's one of those from that moment we didn't know at all that it was all crushed and you already lived in a world of despotism, there wouldn't be any civilized alternative and this alternative was ukrainians by and large are now showing the effectiveness of the alternative, a democratic state, the russians have always said that oh, it's chaos, that they elect a new president there every five years, what the hell have they done, what are they spending uh, they go out, they rebel, oh my god , we are so good at beckoning, you don't need anything at all my god, and the second army of the world. and now it turns out that this is all nonsense, and what can the chinese like, who know for sure that no one elected them to their positions, please, this is bad, and that is why the chinese are confused because if the russians were winning, they would be fine with this

became well, and then another very important point is that this war is not being waged by the methods that china would like, first of all, the threats of nuclear weapons, the chinese concept looks like this : you cannot threaten me with old weapons and you can only respond with them. world war ii, when the chinese perceived themselves as a state of victims and, well, even if you say, we know little about the suffering of the chinese in those times, they were enormous, and when someone starts to think about the possibility of using the first with nuclear weapons, he has created a president who is dangerous for china. well, the humanistic component does not look very good either, and what is important for putin is that china is going to reset its foreign policy and move somewhat away from such a partnership with russia

because, by and large, russia feels completely at ease in a world where there is no west, as former president medvedev said, well, please let them sit in isolation, but if russia does not build an axis, moscow, beijing , delhi, the question arises with whom, in general, is russia cooperating with which forces in latin you understand that america and africa can find partners, but they are conditional partners, because any non-american or african president flew to moscow today, and tomorrow he flew to washington, he will not sit in otse. this is not the time of the soviet union, when if you are from russia, then you are there is no such enemy of the west, there is no african president like that. if you don’t, well, how is it? well, there are some dictators separately, but sooner or later they may end up like the president of sudan bashin and they all know it it is also from the latin american leader that

president maduro is a great friend of the soviet union. that is, you are his current reincarnation, but he calmly agreed with the united states on oil, undermined the positions of russia, even i said that he did not blow his mustache, that is not friends, that is, i would say temporary partners with india, russia is already in difficult relations, because once again we forget that the prime minister is in fashion, why should he bow to putin, he is the prime minister of a one and a half billion country with a developed economy and his own relations united states and with the european union he needs every 5 years i apologize to go to real elections that is he needs to show results and not keep the population in then try to keep one and a half billion people in fear in indian conditions when it is a federal state it is not china so well and then it turns out that the president the

prime minister of the clothes now the president of putin speaks publicly as soon as they talk finished the war what are you doing well it's not interesting as a partnership - it's not a political partnership at least you can't demonstrate a real support is how they talk to us in fashion, no baidy talks to us, but what does it say that we have finished the war, china remains, well, it’s also like that, you know, it’s also an illusion, the illusion of equal cooperation, all the dolphins lead, again, a billion-dollar state and an economy that competes with the economy of the united states that that's putin, that's the territory, that's the population. i'm sorry, which one in some chinese province is 240, 240 or 15. i'm already confused in the numbers

. it is decreasing, which means that in some chinese province even 140 million people are not even a province. so to speak, the district center, the district of life, the army turned out to be just absolute air. china and india can be equal partners in the international era . these are states with comparative potential. russia can compete only because in it is a huge territory, the territory is not populated from the point of view of the population of russia, an average asian state, even in europe. i mean because most of the territory is in asia, but more titanic, no one lives there anymore, just no one. by the way, to continue the figures in the far east, a third of the territory lives

there, eight million people live in the far east of siberia, a total of 30 miles, 38 million there, somewhere around 100 million , 100 million live in the european part, which means in most of the territory there is no one in russia, well, it’s strange for china and india, where there is such a real saturation of the population in every city. and that’s why i think that putin also perceives himself as an equal partner for nothing, well, iran , north korea help them here in the military, these are actually real partisans, because iran in terms of population, military potential, aggressive capabilities, the real level of state control over society can be compared to the russian federation. here they are, and they cooperate with each other. i would be for china. i would be in china's place i would take it outside the scope of this equation, but on the other hand, the chinese are making themselves. they are , well, i was reading some report about the visit of

synten to one of the asian countries, and there it was about the previous shanghai organizations and it was said that these countries as a leader shoes i want to talk there about how the prince is a leader, something, but putin is not a leader, shost, well, that is, they are not perceived as such, as they are, and that is why i think you are absolutely right that putin is ordinary and cannot like it, on the one hand , he had a conversation with the head of the people's republic of china on the eve of the new year, this is a video, we are here. we are talking to us, they are talking to us, but he invited these calls to come. i think that he will not go to these lands. well, he will not go to astana. he came to samarkand. he came to asian countries. he is now visiting them, and i think he is in moscow. not in the near future will go, and i am not sure that he will appear there at all before the end of the war, and this, by the way , can also be said to putin, it is also a great

idea, we will spend it ourselves after you finish the war, and now, please write letters. the visit was recently, medved, why do they correspond, you know, like some uh, and from putin as a backing, they are like in the 19th century, i want to give myself pendants oh, and medvedev, how is it like uh, and i would say like dartanyan, medvedev is more like a horse doors but d'artagnan and in luck means a letter you see, that means you will be a duke, the duke gave you a letter, but the results are as if the king and anne of austria would have cried and parted, it always happens like that when instead of a musketeer you send a horse with a letter on a

positive note, i would like to thank vitaly the dressmaker for the wonderful broadcast. this was the saturday political club of vitaly portnikov yes, literally in a few moments, ulyana panasiuk will present you with a new news issue, accordingly, we will learn the latest information for this moment, in particular, i think she will update it on the missile attack on the dnipro how many wounded are there at the moment, how many people are in hospitals, well, in general. well, what are you compatriots in this beautiful place