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and with such aviation platforms, we will be able to achieve a lot, especially destroy such complexes as the s300 s400 on long approaches from where they strike, this will be a real breakthrough when we get the aviation itself. i'm sorry, but i'm curious, yuri, how many rockets does one installation shoot down, or how to measure its effect correctly, how much do we need to fire on a male to fully protect the installation, but with a battery, the battery is also as we imagine batteries, yes, the battery is a full-fledged unit that can have up to eight launchers, and if we are talking about aeroballistic targets, aeropolistic targets are airplanes, helicopters, cruise missiles and uavs, then no, it can
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reach them at a distance of up to 160 km with a certain type of missile, other targets, such as the ballistics here is a shorter distance of 40 km, so that’s why each of these systems is actually like this. and this is the patriot, and there are three modifications that we would like to receive from our partners, which i hope we will have at least two batteries of which we are talking about now, and also in that perspective, if france and italy will provide us with it, then it is also up to 40 km. it is clear that we will be able to, well, a small part, but 40 km - it is also quite a large, well, large area, if the brothers on the radio say so from the very one launcher was attacked by up to eight launcher batteries, as i said, it is possible to cover certain objects of critical infrastructure, large cities. well, usually around large cities, there are objects of this critical infrastructure, so there will be overlaps there will be overlaps
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where it is most necessary, where it is determined above the military, the military leadership of the state. thank you very much, mr. yuriy, and the general of the river command of the air force of the armed forces of ukraine was in direct contact with us. well, we are moving on. mr. andriy, greetings good evening well, let's start with the meeting of the lublin triangle, you follow this format, you can say from the first day of its appearance what changed during the war precisely in this interaction at the level poland, ukraine, lithuania well, i think what has changed is that the contacts between the leaders of the country and the heads of the relevant departments of the lublin triangle have become quite intense, to say the least, almost daily. and this intensity of exchange of information and exchange of opinions and the development of
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joint positions allows we need not only to get the support of poland and lithuania, but also to promote our interests in the european union and in nato, where poland and lithuania are actually members. speaking of that, the last meeting of the presidents of poland, lithuania and ukraine in lviv how much do you think that the president of poland crossed the red line in the relations between the allies of female fans? -partners in the alliance and the north atlantic alliance and the eu to russia, i think that
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poland still plays the role of the leader of the vanguard in the coalition countries, the countries that stand in the support of sent to the coalition, which is sent to support ukraine and actually is not only these statements and decisions that will be made in the last days and voiced in lviv, this is the transfer of e-e tanks of heavy e-e in ukraine , as well as lithuanian anti-patriarchal e-e systems, this is the result of the fact that e-e is still decided by the demonstration that poland and lithuania are our lobbyists and allies for the promotion of these ukrainian interests, but not only ukrainian ones, because poland and lithuania
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understand very well that the stability of ukraine and the victory of ukraine will also be their victory in the european arena, therefore er, i think that it is necessary if these this format of the lublin triangle should be used as much as possible for our purposes for the promotion of our interests mr. andriy but if we are talking about a small-scale invasion and until this moment during the 8 years of russia's war against ukraine, poland and lithuania have always warned their allies in the alliance about the fact that russia can commit full-scale aggression on the territory of ukraine and on the territory of europe in particular and not in particular, the allies listened. and now, after all, the role of poland and lithuania has been strengthened because the world became convinced after february 24 what russia is capable of.
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you are right, the world became convinced and saw that these warnings and these signals that poland and lithuania presented in the international arena warned their partners against possible of a large-scale invasion of russia, they warned against those criminal actions of the russian army, and they were justified, unfortunately, of course. unfortunately, it is tragic to talk about it, but the leaders of the european countries saw with their own eyes what russia can lead to, poland and lithuania, like ukraine, in the end, like ukraine , know their own history. what is russian aggression worth? what can a russian boot do on the territory of our countries, but
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europeans did not believe it for a long time, it took them some time to realize it. and change their positions and we see that these positions are changing, they are changing thanks to the active e-e work and the work led by the president of ukraine zelenskyi and the minister of foreign affairs kuleba and the ukrainian government and this minister who meet and prove the defense and internal affairs that conduct constant contacts, meetings with their partners and convince them of the need to support ukraine, but also this position of european leaders and eu nato countries has changed thanks to the work and active work of our partners and allies poland and lithuania and, above all, the presidents of andrzej buda and the president of lithuania and tell mr. andriy what has
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happened in recent weeks in polish politics, when there again well, this is an eternal story, bandera's birthday, as you know, the new year resembles a popular soviet film, which russians still watch every new year year, and so do our polish friends. i'm not new year either. they look at how they celebrate bandera's birthday, and i thought that this year somehow, well, they might not notice it, but they noticed it at the level of the top management , and they talked about it again. i'm curious, do you know when it will become obvious ? what is possible for poles, bandera is not the best, i would say a historical hero, well, there is no need to explain it, but on the other hand, those ukrainians who do not love bandera with all their hearts do not love poland, there are such problems here, it is difficult to find a ukrainian who would
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at the same time, he hated bandera. well, as a symbol of resistance to russia, and at the same time he was leaning towards the polish position in the war. it is difficult to understand which ukrainian we should offer to our polish friends, who liked him 100%. and i think that here this topic of bandera or the historical past still needs some elaboration. let's say so and a certain solution, er, whether this final solution will be difficult for me to say. because it seems to me , well, the history that has developed between our peoples is not hers to change but that can help in e-e avoiding certain contradictions between uh, by ukraine
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, by poland. for sure , the question of our heroes will not be so acutely perceived by the poles, and accordingly, in ukraine , this or the position of the poles will be more clearly understood by their reaction to the commemoration of our heroes, so will we find this point e touch i think that for sure we will find because the situation has changed enough, as we see it now, during these last ten or even 11 months of war,
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large-scale issues of the historical past , even though they appear in the discourse of polish politics, but they are not priorities in ukrainian-polish relations, because in both countries, both peoples have understood that russia is a greater threat to us, and that is why we need to fight the enemy together now, and not deal with the issues of, well, clarifying our past, but i think that this the issue has not been removed from the agenda, we need to work on it. i think that the best option will still be the implementation of this proposal, which was expressed by president zelensky back in 2019, to erect a monument to the victims of all those who died during the second world war war on the side of ukraine and poland, somewhere on the border between ukraine and poland, and there together with everyone to honor
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the memory of these uh victims and uh, let this monument be in front of the guard so that never more than our peoples come to confrontation but and the last ones, i will only say that, but i see that uh, our uh, a large number of ukrainians who are in poland are changing the situation and attitudes in society, including regarding issues of the historical past. and please tell mr. andrian the election campaign in poland can somehow aggravate these problems or vice versa. i think that if military operations are still conducted, then i think that it will not be a priority in political party programs or pre-election programs of parties in this year's elections in poland to andriy regarding tanks
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leopards, after all, to germany, but allegedly warsaw once again put us in a not very convenient situation, but it is beneficial for us for ukraine, just as the moped system was, but now it is in offsholz. the government did not really want to put it mildly, to hand over heavy weapons to us. however, even the vice- chancellor robert gabby said that if germany does not want to sell tanks on its own, then at least it should not prevent other countries from doing so. and here is this internal conflict in germany regarding military aid to ukraine with heavy weapons. it will still be resolved by the allies and these the steps that they are going to hand over these tanks to us will convince shultz, i am still optimistic about the transfer of heavy weapons to ukraine, especially leopard tanks, but also other weapons, and this
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optimism is based on the fact that, for sure, the experience of conducting negotiations that we as the ministry of foreign affairs, we as ukraine and each of the embassies introduced uh from the beginning of large-scale uh russian aggression and i see how approaches changed and uh understanding changed positions including in poland because poland did not immediately became er well, i did not take such a favorable position regarding the transfer of arms to ukraine, it is true that from the very beginning they were ready to provide us with maximum assistance, and they did so, creating all the possibilities in order to accept ukrainians in poland and provide humanitarian aid and financial aid and military aid and to provide a corridor through the territory of poland for the transfer of such
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military humanitarian aid to ukraine , but this decision was not made so easily, it was not made immediately, for this it was necessary to carry out appropriate work and this work was carried out and again, i am returning as the president and prime minister, the minister of foreign affairs and our diplomats, but a lot has also been done as a place of defense, including in warsaw, and i think that actually such work and additional arguments are sometimes unfortunately these arguments are tragic and the sacrifices that ukraine has suffered and the destruction of which it has experienced do not become arguments that can convince our partners . spain italy
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what these arguments allow them to help them change their approaches in matters of supporting ukraine and this process is ongoing and i think that i will give us joint efforts with our polish lithuanian colleagues and partners to convince germany that in this case they are talking about if we are talking about germany and the transfer of e-e tanks to leopark ukraine, what will they do with this decision , how much are the chances now for such countries as poland and the baltic countries, if the influence of russia in europe really declines and increase the influence by the way, the average of the united states is the same. i would say that the process is a two-way street and always the discretion of washington, do you remember mr. andrija, the countries of the so
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- called old europe were perceived with disdain? to become the leader of eastern europe, you can become the leader of er in eastern europe and the leader of the european union but i think that this is also a chance for us because er if we become members of the european union and we will become members of the european union in some time then i also believe that we we will also become members of nato. it will strengthen. in fact , this eastern flank of ies and nato will also strengthen . and first of all, it will become more stable, deservedly more stable because we won, we will win the war and these our e-e contacts and these our cooperation that will pass through the tongue passes due to the fact that it is verified as a result of military operations - it will bring us even closer together and we have a serious chance of being a great
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counterweight to this old europe and western europe. there is actually a senator here on the eastern flank, so i think poland and the baltic countries and ukraine has a serious potential to become new. well, let's say there, if we are already talking about tigers or leopards, what will the european union and nato do in russia at this moment, because now they have already started preparations for the 2024 presidential campaign, but at the same time it is interesting p andrii, what do they take into account in their program, let's say what they will unite putin's electorate around, since they will clearly lose and we hope that we will win and as soon as possible, how will putin act then? i think that putin will continue to lead his line or pre-election or
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in general, the political line in the direction of the fact that from the side of ukraine and from the west there is a threat to russia and they need to carry out some kind of military actions in quotation marks of operations outside of russia in order to preserve because there is a threat to russia from the outside, and the owner of the campaign company will probably be built around this, they will forgive the defeat . this is not only a question, it is also a question of putin of the entire russian federation, it is not known whether the russian federation will be. so i think that
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first we will wait for the victory of ukraine and then we will see how the situation will develop in russia. but until then , this rhetoric of an external threat of an external enemy will dominate discussions in political russia, a diplomat, a former ambassador of ukraine to the republic of poland, a former minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, velicheva, we had an e-e on the air. in relation to the situation in the dnipro, the number of wounded has increased to 60, 12 of them are children , there were 72 apartments in the destroyed entrance, a russian rocket hit a building with 16 entrances and about 1,700 registered residents - that's 100,200 people from these
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72 apartments that were destroyed, among them about 50 children, these numbers are very scary. rescuers are focused on them, sorting through rubble in the dark without light, without any normal, let's say, conditions in order to see people as soon as possible and save them, but we will hope that, after all, the majority people were not at home at that time and we will be able to save the lives of ukrainians as much as possible. well, for now we will have a short break and after vitaly portnikov and i will return cinema television port music education free people have a choice choose what you want on megogo art in the
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country of war a series of documentaries films, each of which will tell about one of the ukrainian artists, artists who did not go abroad and continue their creative path. in ukraine, there is such an impression that history just entered now, yes, at such a moment where everything just gathered in it as linearly, that 's what happened there that we remember then, it was a kind of drag, and now it's like it's all at one moment and we see that well, everything is repeated, but how the place and meaning of the artist and his work change. to a country that is at war, watch in the new tv series from the dopnutfilm studio, the association babylon 13 has become art from january 16, weekdays from monday to friday at 11:10 on espresso. i am iryna koval
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, mother, wife, host of the espresso tv channel. and i am also a volunteer, our soldiers are at the front daily need a lot of things and that's why part of my life today - this is help to the armed forces of ukraine and i am very grateful to my colleagues that they support me. of course, for a tv presenter, the main job is to inform people as disgustingly as possible, as truthfully as possible . now this is the most important information about the war . us and we want one victory, we strive for victory with all our might, we donate, we buy walkie-talkies, copters, pickups, armored cars and fairy tales, and we also have to pay for nets, this is special help, this is what you do with your own hands and it will go to the front line, it will save the lives of our soldiers
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. even a small contribution to support the troops can help from you, it will save the lives of our soldiers and bring our victory closer. we continue the program of the saturday polyclub anzhelika sezonka and vitaly portnikov. so, mr. vitaly, i suggest you also summarize the lublin triangle and its results poland and lithuania, together with ukraine , met in lviv and based on the results, lithuania once again supported ukraine's membership in the north atlantic alliance. however, we remember that when volodymyr zelenskyi as the president of ukraine submitted an application for accelerated accession, but still not all countries supported us, but 11 spoke in favor of how to work with countries that oppose it, should there be a single strategy or with each country separately, of course , from each country separately, but we also have to exist in a realistic world it is obvious that
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for many nato member countries ukraine's membership in the north atlantic alliance until the end of hostilities is not a topic for conversation at all, because in such a situation the alliance will be in conflict with the russian federation and all the leaders of the member states of the alliance and the president of the united states and the president of france, the federal chancellor of germany, all the time and going forward, by the way, the minister of great britain and the previous and current i have even the previous parting of san johnson said that their countries are not a party to the conflict. if you imagine that now ukraine, but tomorrow there, on february 1, becomes a member of nato. so all these countries become parties to the conflict, the conflict is rapidly approaching a conflict between a nuclear bloc and a nuclear state, the third world war begins war is something that nato absolutely does not want , because they do not really understand the level of adequacy of the president of russia, vladimir putin, so the first condition for ukraine to join
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nato is hostilities on the territory of our country, friend, at what moment the hostilities can be stopped, we do not know the terms we understand that russia is determined for a long-term conflict . in this way, ukrainians should realize that it is possible to wish for the war to end in 2023. it is possible in 2033. it is a question of how quickly russia will run out of resources. i am in the 33rd of course, i named the year just for the parallel with 23, but in any case, i am sure of one simple wall, as long as vladimir putin is the president of the russian federation, the war will not end. it may slow down if putin does not have the appropriate efforts and resources to continue it. will end all these conversations that the war should not end at the negotiating table, they are absolutely childish, first of all, putin does not need to end the war at the negotiating table because of the very question you are asking about as soon as the
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war ends at the negotiating table. any option on any line of the current confrontation of troops on the state border of ukraine on february 24, there is a window for the accession of ukraine, because there are no hostilities and the russian president or someone else signs with his hand that he is not against our integration, we may be against it he may not be against it, the main thing is that he has to tell nato that there are no hostilities, the war is over and at this very moment, literally, he is doing it there on march 15, 23, or on march 15, 25, it does not matter when and at this moment the president of the united states says to his colleague, we can consider the application of ukraine, he and there is no conflict settled ukraine deserves to be part of the north atlantic family if you are the president
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of ukraine you strive for it if the president of russia doesn't care you need it let them fight to infinity the main thing is that we we provide with this war and it has not ended because they are not entering the donat we do not need to demand any neutral status from them all and all this nonsense that we demanded before, well, we just need to fight with them, no one this will not lead anywhere, the first condition means that the hostilities must stop once. the second condition is that these hostilities must stop so that in the agreement on the cessation of hostilities, if there is one at all, i think that it will not be there, there were no promises of the natural status of ukraine, this is two, the third is that after hostilities will cease, there was a clear understanding of what territory of ukraine is subject to the so-called fifth article, that is, that ukraine goes to all its borders, that is clear, well, it is an international issue. and if not all, then if at this moment not all and if
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the war is over, here is the signature of the president of russia against after the end of the war, what are you doing, and the issue of crimea will be solved diplomatically, what will the half of the nato countries who do not want us to enter there say ? that ukraine, a member of nato, cannot have any territorial disputes with other countries. romania, when acting as a representative of the european union. although romania absolutely did not like it, but did they say if you do not give up your claims as international arbitration will decide, i'm sorry, you are not a country, we will not fight with you later, if you want a conflict with ukraine over some unfortunate island, this is alpha and omega and that what we keep forgetting about means or we
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find some mechanism together with the members over which the territory that is controlled by the legitimate ukrainian government operates according to article 5 is spread, and it is not spread to other territories. thus, in principle, we exclude for ourselves the possibility of a non- diplomatic solution to the territorial problems, by and large this is, if we are honest, well, honestly, it is unrealistic. no, this is a legal renunciation of the territory, we and russia can resolve this issue of territorial integrity diplomatically with russia for 250 years is not on the agenda of either the ukrainian authorities and of the ukrainian people, of course, but everything will change over time as the war continues, you already understand very well that one thing is a year of war, another thing is three years , and we are talking about a great perspe

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