of students oleksandr and this and this what is this nativ school is it some kind of creativity of these young people themselves including well of course you understand that here is our commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine so in one of the interviews he said that he likes to read different books yes, yes, i know people in our military who, uh, have it on the advice of others, but they have subscriptions to the united states naval institute. well , it's not that expensive for a year, but what does it give you ? look from their as theirs compare, you also understand, with all due respect and with all our experience and merits, we also do not come up with certain tactics, here we go, well, someone had a dream of course. in 2016-17, at yavorivskyi kon, where

our soldiers trained according to the type of nato brigades, this is the cooperation that continues, it also bore fruit and the officers who came from the time of the ato, as the wars in the east were then called, then the russian invasion, which began they also grew up and they also state that we grew up in the battles already by understanding mistakes, learned skills, formed, got to know the enemy, understood how and how to resist him, and this is all in a complex, but please tell me one more short question, considering what you said if well, in ukraine, they began to make decisions regarding the appointment of the state holiday of the day of the foundation of the modern ukrainian army, it would be treated from the 14th year or, after all, from the 22nd, what do you think? well, you see. this is probably also a discussion was preceded by our main state-building document, do you remember someone wanted to

write what is necessary since the time of the ukrainian people's republic, but you know the thousand-year aspirations yes, i think that in this case yes, well, the army is always there . armed forces, there is no law enforcement system, and of course you cannot claim to be, well, there are cases, there are cases there, well, these are isolated and these are small states there. well, san marino had, it’s cold , the experience of the 14th year in this war, which was i i think he played his part, after all, our young generals, and well, now not all of them have served russians there, so yes, they, yes , they got the necessary combat experience, yes, plus unconditional cooperation with nato for many and training abroad, all this together gave the result bodanov us the head of intelligence came out exclusively from this war since 2014. so this experience. i think that it was absolutely not in vain, on the contrary, it had its

effect on but still, i think here, you know, this is a war for our future. patriotic attitude is not just that you know, formally loyalist, some kind of tribute, political situation, no, people do not understand what they are protecting, and besides, i think that they belong to a new generation, a more modern generation that thinks differently, that does not condone, ot zaluzhne, ot in one of his interviews, he just and he didn't realize that the russian army is an authoritarian authoritarian in the second grass, hence this attitude like meat to those who fight on the russian side, but here, after all, i understand that we are a democratic, free state, worldview another the country's state system, the need for discipline, and there are also problems here, and there is that in 2022, a law was passed that was more cruel

, making discipline in the army, well, it is a necessity, because we do not have combat losses, but in the war in donbas, there were sometimes more than about disciplines no matter what kind of democratic framework there was, there was a combination of this democratic worldview, modern thinking , intellectual culture, military yes, i think that there are signs about russia, the date was distracted. i think that indeed the year 2022 also recorded important trends because russia turned out to be not as powerful and super- victorious as everyone thought and believed in the west, because all these forecasts that we will quickly lose this war were based on such axiomatic assessments that we are weak, in particular, corruption, weak state institutions, but besides that, well, it's banal arithmetical calculations a huge advantage in the population in the economic potential of finance is huge the russians have modernized their

armed forces another thing how they did it yes how effective yes there is a question but nevertheless they did it and uh definitely advantage in resources and well, how to stand here but it turned out that there are weak points in this army , it is not like that, it is already victorious and poisons the destruction of the myth, why did you organically hint at it, yes, about the second army of the world, this happened, but another destruction of the destruction of the myth of the victorious putin about such a lucky guy putin is a favorite of fate who wins everywhere and now the weakening of the weakening of the russian state of the putin regime is not yet critical. so far nothing has happened, but doubts about putin's victory have already begun to waver. therefore, will it be possible to win this war, what to do next, how not to get out,

the russian society itself began to waver, although one of the results of this year, unfortunately, is not just our huge disappointment in the russians , but i think that there are kanivs, yes, not only ours, that the vast majority of russians supported this war. i think that this is a great pity. one of the lessons of this war and in this sense the sad and bitter situation was repeated that sometimes even such large societies can lose their minds, as was the case with the german, well, with the fascist germany by the way, i would like excuse me for inserting five cents here, which is called and in my opinion, what is a very important thing, the myth about this people and the liberator on which it lived and timothy snyder, the american historian , by the way, explained his bloodlens, he has such explanation he says that these concentration camps were mainly in eastern europe, and there was a large

concentration of them there, so it is clear why . these prisoners were freed by the russian troops and , according to snyder, this allowed stalin to show the world such a liberator, that is , the plan, and so on. even the memoirs of some germans who wrote that the red army was on the territory of the red army, there are parallels here, but there it could be explained by hatred for what happened, and there are well-known references to the fact that the officers who liberated stalingrad told the germans yes ot we will also do the same with you and your country , but now there is an attack, you said about liberation , but what kind of liberation is there, when you attack a

neighboring state, you say that it is a fraternal people ? the result of this first year of the war, well, of the first calendar year of 2022, and the change in the attitude of ukrainians towards russia and russians as a result of this war is already important for our future because we always have a pro-russian camp in our politics, he was one of centers of influence, the situation is changing radically, and the worldview of ukrainians is changing, they felt it through their own bitter experience, a tragic experience. where does the main threat for them come from, a mortal threat in the literal sense? so this is also one of the results and lessons of the year 2022. gentlemen, this is for ukraine. we say sometimes we mention the world, but if you look at the world, the war in ukraine in 2022 will be a full-scale war

. oleksandra matviychuk, our nobel laureate, and her speech when i was there preparing for the interview, and the speech on the right made a huge impression on me, to which i said at the end of the interview that i am happy that i heard about the need for change in the world security system and a-and in the legal system in the ukrainian language from you. did the ukrainian situation teach the ukrainian war such lessons for the world? what do you think ? it is a great pity that this has been confirmed in person. one of the lessons of this year is that we will need to reform the international regional security system, in fact, sometimes the creation of new institutions, in my opinion, is

always given by inertia, but let's remember that it was born on the ruins of the league of nations. but i am not sure that there will be a refusal from the un, but there is definitely a need to change the osce and it is very good that for now it is in this general form but in the form in principle in general the zelensky peace plan of the zelensky peace formula appeared because in principle, these are precisely the directions. where, how, and what should be changed and a new regional security system should be built, and it is very good that the last thesis appeared, the initiative for a peace conference appeared. yes, here is the paradox, you know, before the advent of peace. well, i would say irony putin wanted a historical destiny. i'm here for myself, and so it can turn out that uh, well, how can you not use the term yalta, so kyiv or some other city. yes, but a new international peace conference that should replace what was

before, build new security international institutions, disclose in this but unfortunately so far, this is only the very beginning, we have seen the crisis of this system, but it still needs to be built, and then we have not forgotten about you. excuse me, we talked a little with mr. volodymyr, and see when the change is discussed, are there any reforms, changes, transformation of the world security system, very often close to this thesis with this opinion, a thesis arises about the creation of some , perhaps even world, well, it is conventionally called figuratively, the world police yes , rapid response forces of something like this, is it possible to do this in the modern world in the world where is there already a war, a full-scale war of russia against ukraine on the territory of ukraine, where is the ukrainian army, which is being passed through successfully, can the ukrainian army participate in this? i understand that this is a very theoretical question, but how do you

measure it? can i ask there, is it worth it? no , they are questions, yes. that's what the idea is - is it the moon or is it worth it for us to become a kind of regional police in the event of victory in the war propaganda said that the chain dog of imperialism is the israeli district, you see what's what what's the problem as long as there is only one country or there is there are countries that have nuclear weapons, there are countries that do not have nuclear weapons, you will not achieve this, unfortunately, it remains a utopia despite everything. in the legal system, when you have a rule, but you don't have sanctions, how will you punish for violating this rule, that's all . it

punishment, then she will be dead in general, that is, it is all our power, yes, that is right, without law enforcement, but who carries out according to the idea, the un should be carried out through the mechanisms of peacekeeping missions, the peacekeeping missions of nato took on such a role, we also know that at certain stages they adopted such decisions, but decisions were always adopted, pay attention there were no nuclear states with nuclear states, there were no precedents and what does this mean, it means that we are now approaching a key moment, this applies and enough they often criticize our partners, as i think it is unjustified, in the center of the fact that you do not give weapons. you do not want us to quickly solve everything from russia right now. they do not give because they always have this question: what if putin uses nuclear weapons but to say 100% that he will not use it, well, we can't, we don't have the right either, because we don't know exactly, and this is the issue of nuclear weapons . this is what it is. this is the factor that in

any case is where you want it or not but the world policeman can be the united states well, because they have this one ukraine would have nuclear weapons, we could talk about the fact that let's create a club of such nuclear states to deter aggressors. and it and the united states. look. they also missed north korea, which created nuclear weapons. the situation is currently unknown. how will it go in the morning and many other things because what to reform it is necessary, it is absolutely necessary, is it being created and will we be able to create an effective police force? unfortunately, i doubt that the states will agree to force, for example , even france, which has nuclear weapons, to carry out some kind of mission against russia, roughly speaking in our occupied territory , is it difficult to become a guarantor of nato security? yes, the question of political history is too difficult, but the fact is that we definitely have to get out of this war

with the reformation of absolutely everyone who is involved in international security. and threatening - this is a traditional world war , after which there was a rethinking and creation of some new institutions or , in general, the basis of some new one or the other, or it will still be the goodwill of the states, conditionally speaking, if we somewhere there can admit that in at least more or less adequate forces will come to power in russia, which themselves admit that it would be better to extradite them in their situation. it is possible that the international tribunal will try at least somehow and they will sit down at the table, where will ukraine be, where will russia be, where will they read britain, france, clarify, that is, in fact it is more profitable for the world, yes let’s say it is calmer and perhaps more progressive, the situation according to which means putin’s henchmen will quietly press him down with a

snuffbox, of course, they will give him away and he will sit down. any no, don't listen to the machine, this is the second russian-ukrainian war, which will be faster . navalny and for navalny to come . how i live. maybe, but what do you think of this year, 2022, he laid the foundations for me to return now to nuclear weapons, so that russia will eventually be left without nuclear weapons, there is a possibility of disarming nuclear weapons altogether russia has been told the first letter, the first word, where nuclearization is, i would say ideas for the future, when and how it will be implemented, now there really are no prerequisites for direct organization , experts say well, let's remember another year, well

, they didn't even think about it, exactly, and they didn't think about it, for example about the fact that ukraine will initiate a change in the status of russia in the un, too, so far, this is also quite utopian, but first there was a word that the idea itself must be formulated, and then move on depending on the circumstances, and now this word has been said, and then you have to move on depending from the circumstances if there are favorable circumstances so it will be possible to do it without relying on the good will of russia, but everything will be connected with the situation inside russia of course we have literally a few minutes left to the end i would like to ask you if it is possible to ask about such a forecast , well, first of all, what do you think, the war can end. i'm not saying it will end, i'm saying it can end in 2023. there is a window of opportunity for this. i think what happened in 2002 is true.

the occupied territories were liberated and we have the foundations of the basis for victory next year, in what form it will be, this question is still open, but the chances of this are high enough that we will leave on the border of 1991, if not of all the occupied territories, then mostly of them, but for this, it is definitely necessary, it is an open question, and what is said is that both diplomatic and military diplomatic ways are possible, as bohdanov said in one of the interviews. yes, both options or a combination of them are possible. it is necessary to focus on this, it is worth continuing the trends that appeared in 2012, mr. oleksandr, what will the ukrainian army be like next year, what will we get, what else will we learn, how will it develop, i believe that after all, we will receive more armaments of the one we are talking about it is about tanks and artillery. this is really important for the continuation

of de-occupation. the army will be strengthened . society will believe in the army. it will believe starting from the supreme commander-in-chief of the president and further down the hierarchy of the commander-in-chief. trust will be high and the struggle will be the same, i can say that the hope is that in 2023 it will be possible for us to end the war victoriously, they are, they are not groundless questions, it remains open from what i started, whether the end of the war in general will happen and lead to a stable peace that can last there for a long time for a long time, will this be the end of the stage of the great war or , er, one of the wars that may still happen in this century, the next decades , and here, by the way, i apologize here , and in the topic and in this sense, if there will be nuclearization in our country, there would be a question would be removed i think that it would be removed next and without security at all, do you understand and how to carry out

nuclearization well, yes, there are examples, there are examples of the budapest memorandum, it was possible, uh, our potential was not russian, which is now, but it was possible to solve it the question is the truth means the president is. so you can work in this direction, but about the reduction, the thing is that there should be a reduction in the forces of offensive weapons and so on for this irritant of international security, it seems obvious to me without this, the last question to both of you is very short, please if there is if, of course, you can give an answer, if there is something that should not be done next year or the next year under any circumstances, neither to ukraine as a state, nor to ukraine as a society, nor to the ukrainian army, you cannot tell anyone what cannot be done under any circumstances, believe putin believe putin unequivocally this and this year, it should not be done like this, but there is only so much for us, i would say it is such a program, we understand it perfectly, but here are

the challenges because if putin remains in his position and we will have to conduct with him on our terms anyway and will russia make commitments or will putin fulfill them in the future? and that is why we are coming to the point that putin should be forced to fulfill only by forcing the factor and supporting the event . we will do no restrictions, you know, i liked how the president said to the christmas greeting that we will not wait for deva . and i hope that the next year will still be the right one for ukraine and we will still be fine, of course. we hope for victory. i would like to remind you that

we talked about the results of 2022 with our guests volodymyr fesenko, a political expert, and oleksandr musienko, the head of the center for military legal studies as i thank you , see you later, donetsk, the city of my first sports victories under the flag of ukraine, we are our native ukraine, which today is attacked by russia every day due to missile attacks , ukrainian sports halls are abandoned or the roaring stands fell silent, but the sportsmen of the whole world are not silent thanks to their struggle in russian and belarus are no longer

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we have places we must fight for each of these lives until the end, there simply should not be any doubt, where is my soul, where are the gods going, we will not give up our native land, where is my land, my heart, yes, i am equal to you, my dear, i will not give up doctors, angels, they just need to be helped to spread their wings and not were disturbing

bridges were blown up and our place was divided into two ukraine left this side of the city and russia had not yet entered and there was such a vacuum in the city and there was nothing to eat there was such a thrill when you drive through this city and i asked where it is because we came through such forest plantation i heard that there were mass burials here i say people they showed me this is where they said we were coming there really were all these huge pits dug i am from zakarpattia oblast

and i came to izyum i look they were in the hospital diluted i come i say i am a student studying in to the oleksandr bogomolets kyiv national medical university in the last year of the sixth year, i want to help you. i love you. come and live. i live here in the hospital. and these are our operating rooms. in the same way, there is another operating room there, this is a stadiological intensive care unit, maybe somewhere on march 3, we already had civilian hospitals with an explosion of programs, and on march 11, we were left with 102 doctors, i and more

one surgeon has already been used by the others. peace, this is the doctor who worked here in izyum in one war. instead of anesthesiologists, there were nurses who knew perfectly well what had to be done. so, what is the doctor here, a traumatologist who worked for me for the sixth time ? on march 7, the entire hospital was transferred to us, then we took into account about 72 people. well, this is the famous basement. until now, we have beds here. this is all there were patients . most of the time, i have a room here. i arranged a little, well, mine have already passed.

it turns out that in our basement there was a city of unsanitary conditions at that time. it was necessary. it was a clean city during the occupation. in the absence of an obstetrician’s initials, we bring nature. i’m there on purpose as a traumatologist . -th at the institute i certainly studied obstetrics and gynecology, thank god all the births were practically all physiological from the sumy home, the babies were miraculously brought to kyiv, the children must go to lviv, this is such a disaster, i gathered the teams and said that today we are on we can only count on ourselves and no one else for a submarine