i am fighting a legitimate government that is supported by its legitimate parliament, its legitimate government, which did not invade the territory of the russian federation, did not occupy the lands, which demand the withdrawal of the occupying interventionists and their units. the opinion of the peace party wants to see the kremlin medvedchuk, of course, and which led ukraine to war before russia's attack on ukraine, because of that they will not be able to come up with anything new, they want to play now on the emotions of people who lost their homes, who lost their relatives, and to offer the ukrainian authorities and ukrainian society peace at any price, and ukrainian

society is no longer interested in peace at any price, ukrainian society demands that peace through the ukrainian victory i agree with mr. vadim and with regard to the conclusions he made, there is, in my opinion, another interesting thing when medvedchuk insists that the interests of russia must be taken into account in any solution, that is, it seems to me that subconsciously they already understand that russia can lose, and then they blackmail the whole world and europe of our international partners. what are you looking at, even if ukraine became the winner? and what about russia, what about russia, that is, it seems to me that this is such a test of the pen and i agree that the russian federation is preparing for another broad e- it is an information war, and here it is important that the ukrainian authorities clearly

monitor who, under what names , opens new channels, opens new editions, because it may just be the holy russian agency that has remained here, the so -called sleeping agency, what kind of is fed for many years and medvedchuk and his team well, of course, with the money of russia, here it is important that such a message came from our intelligence the day before that russia - in the near future will also try to use ukrainian journalists to conduct information and psychological operations and it is expected in kyiv, where the complex scale is large-scale, this is what they already have, are there still going to be any discounts, and who else can be used here? well, who will they use? i don’t know the question here. probably , it’s not for me, but i’ll throw in what

it's just beginning, well, you should clearly understand that they really changed their information strategy a little bit, they changed theirs , and now they are actively spreading such things, that's why i said, you just have to be careful with this look who is saying what well, to be honest, i think that soon enough we will understand who and what the key goal of this information attack on ukraine should be in principle, the key message is that it is possible for the intimidation of our population, those who are relevant to it. well, to look and so on. and we see how massively it has diverged. maybe i am wrong, maybe plrionov really made certain calculations, so

to speak, and has some inside information, maybe not vadim denisenko well, look, i'm clearly sure that in this case, uh, she said to lina, whether we knew it or not, this is already another question. a message is to sow fear, to sow with disbelief, and in parallel, and once again i am speaking from medvedchuk, uh, we hear one single phrase in essence, which is now being broadcast by a huge mass of bots, i.e. today, even in spasayu, i just saw from this how many russian bots flew because of such it was no longer and it boils down to the fact that the authorities will fight to the last ukrainian, we need to sit down at the negotiating table, that is, with actually, fear and negotiations fear and negotiations is their strategy for the near future and they will one way or another, to be implemented in the next few weeks. that's for sure. well, that

's a question for me too. that's why the creation of political forces is similar, and secondly, well, it's clearly medvedchuk. well, we know the attitude of the average ukrainian, regardless of political or linguistic or any other preferences or religious ones, yes to medvedchuk, he is a person with a minus rating, he was not liked in the country. i understand that if they used this or that as such a thrower, i don’t know a fluffy european politician there, who would be there in the style of old steinmeier even there before stan mayer has corrected himself, he would have done the same, but they didn’t use exactly this one. that is , what is left of yanukovych is to present him with some kind of proposals. well, i believe that if putin went for an exchange, then he simply will not leave alone and there he is a medvedchuk it will be used unequivocally. medvedchuk will not be an independent

figure there, he will relay exactly what he will be written about in the kremlin, because there is no other option for me, for example, regarding the statement of larionov, whom i respect but i was surprised by such statements. he always made his forecasts carefully. he is a really good analyst. but i remember how until february 24 of last year he declared that there could be no large-scale attack. and now such a statement alarmed me, for example, and he changed er, his position or someone through him wanted to instill fear in ukrainians because what he talked about there does not always correspond to reality, although our military is ready for any development of events and he did not say anything extraordinary there for a long time, it has not caused ukrainians anything but

pity and laughter, what a horror. they wanted to use medvedchuk to bring this issue to vadim, you have written a very interesting thesis in yourself that er, local social and economic unrest will soon begin. do you really believe that the people will start to justify e- er, that is, the situation is really available, the situation is such that if it is true that in russia this second wave stabilization with a defect will be carried out now, we see that it has already begun, and we understand what method will be used, we understand that places, even in order for 300,000 of these that they mobilized in the first wave, er, for training, there are no places for them, that is, er, plus the deterioration of economic life, that is, one way or another, but it is creeping all the time with the shift of the month, in reality, it is deteriorating in general regions. therefore, now the spices

are forming, for the first time, in fact, for many years , a unique situation is forming when it is really possible to appear as a ground for, i will repeat once again, local social and economic riots, not large-scale, small, but local soils there for 50,100,200 of people, in fact. such things can really start all over the territory of the russian federation. president zelenskyi yesterday, by the way, imposed sanctions on the opponents of something . there, i don’t know if you can call them culture here, culture there, culture there, there was no media lying around there, either, well, some manipulative stories why call it the media and so on, well , conventionally speaking, the masters of the conversational and entertaining pop genre have come under the presidential sanctions of almost 200 people, diana panchenko, in particular, who has left now there in the occupied territories, but we still have a

lot of people who licked the medvedchuks and jerks on the live broadcasts of the medvedchuk channels for years. it is possible to adjust the whole thing to some kind of clear legal framework. are only the sanctions of the national security and defense council sufficient for the security of the defense of ukraine ? it would still be possible to formulate such a bill and vote on it we would immediately look in the next hall who is who well and accordingly continue to work look at today, uh, in the conditions of martial law the most effective way, after all, is the imposition of sanctions, which is responsible for national security and defense, which has special powers during martial law, in fact, this is not an easy job, and as far as i know, there is not enough equipment for all the work, because of that , representatives of the security forces are involved, which provide a certain e-e information from the

national security and defense council or, receiving instructions from the national security council, they analyze the available information and propose the imposition of sanctions . ukraine and they are also subject to such sanctions. i think that uh, such an example is a political one, maybe someone remembers. collaborators and there uh and you can see their results are definitely not as ukrainian society would like but in fact it is not an easy process but it does not continue vadym denysenko is still with us yes uh i wanted to hear your opinion about well this is an inexhaustible list of everyone who is here yes or otherwise tolerated

promoted and advocated the russian measure and tv presenters and representatives of culture of the so -called mykhailo case, that is, in this case, the most effective sanctions are remblo. why is it to make a list? well, unfortunately, there are so many of them that they obviously do in relation to the method, we understand that we... we will look for more, we will put these people in charge, so in this case, this is a process, and the most egregious last name, yes, they are already solid, if others are this last name, well , obviously, you can also make petitions to the president and appeals here, and i think that on himself vadim will be counted automatically. well, today we talked with the director of the ukrainian house in davos, and accordingly there will be a presentation of our peace formula . if we talk about our peace formula, our

vision. how powerful will the support be from our partners, allies in the allies? i don't know how to do it right. name all well, but in general our western friends so that it is effective not only declarative. and we understand that the indicator of its effectiveness is the allocation of heavy equipment as armored of armored vehicles and, accordingly, of rockets as well. as you can see this whole history of the allocation of equipment, but in principle, everything that we see against the last months, we understand that we really have increased the amount of equipment that is provided to us, we clearly understand that russia is not managed to split the collective event , we clearly understand that the collective event remains completely on pro-ukrainian positions and we are guaranteed military and

financial assistance for 2023. from this point of view, i believe that it will be necessary to deepen this story, it is necessary to speed up these stories, but in general, we can definitely say that the russians did not succeed in spreading the collective west. as you did not plan, mr. vadim, you are also there, the mission that you are going to voice, who will i meet with, will i participate in one of the tunnels in which the panels organized by the ukrainian house managed to talk about information security first of all , and in particular, the ukrainian court of the future made a big report called why putin lost, that is, actually speaking, the goal should be report to show the whole world that putin has already lost, regardless of what will happen next , and russia has already lost, and no one needs to join the losers . actually, this is the main task of this

report, which will also be presented there . of internal affairs of ukraine, executive director of the ukrainian institute of the future worked in our direct marathon in the studio mykhailo tsimbalyuk, people's deputy of ukraine, deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on issues of social policy and the protection of the rights of veterans of the general lieutenant of militia in the reserve, well, accordingly, now i would like to discuss the key issues of social protection of our veterans . in particular , it is about specific support for people who have very often suffered extremely serious injuries .

first of all, that this year we finally approve the matrix that concerns the protection of veterans and the support of their family members. and in general, we want it to be clearly written so that every serviceman who is at the front today or among those who can be mobilized tomorrow clearly knows that when he is demobilized the state undertakes certain obligations, we studied the experience of some of its former slavic states, the experience of the united states in protecting military personnel, and we developed a number of draft laws that will already be implement this year. for example, we want to develop a system of rehabilitation of military personnel. we are talking about medical and psychological rehabilitation so that a military personnel who is demobilized has at least two

months of vacation and that this vacation is paid for by the state and not by the employer from whom he was mobilized. the order with hospitals, because today the hospitals in which military rehabilitation takes place, they belong to the e-e departments, the ministry of defense of internal affairs is separate from the national border guards, etc., that is, in our opinion, all this should belong to the ministry of veterans together with the ministry of health . our hero should have a social protection package that concerns communal and other things, we believe that these

people should have the right to overtime employment in state authorities according to the profession, of course, in the corresponding bodies of local self-government, i.e. so that the person who returned felt needed and could undergo difficult rehabilitation and adjustment, or, as the northerners of origin say, into a civilian peaceful life. because in reality, experience says that it is not so simple. that is, we want a package of such e- e legislative acts and subordinate regulatory documents to clearly protect these people, for example, now e-e raised the issue of reimbursement of funds in connection with injuries and when e-e military wife comes to me and shows what is needed 12 documents in order for the wounded soldier to

confirm that he received this injury and as a result he was compensated a certain amount , that is, on the one hand, you communicate with the military leadership, they could do it in their own way, that you still need to have confirming documents so that the funds go to those people who really deserve it, because unfortunately, there is a small percentage of those who, as they say, want to be included in this category, but from vovku, in my personal opinion, a military serviceman should not go for those certificates. let's make the most computerized system so that the bureaucratic apparatus confirmed all this that a person should deal only with his treatment or moral adaptation there or in general to be at the front again and everything else has to work , the apparatus is also such an important challenge well, of course, discussions continue regarding now we

have adopted a bill regarding the participant obtaining the status a participant in hostilities to civilians who, during the period of the large-scale war, from february of volyn-ne-voly, stood up to defend their state, but were not part of any military formation, neither the ministry of defense nor the national guard there is the ministry of internal affairs, etc. they got weapons when they were distributed to some police stations and maybe they went to defend their house, which weapons were registered with them or not, that is another question. who went to eternity and died as a hero because of that, we regulated it with this bill, created a commission under the ministry of veterans, and

our task is still very big and serious. right, they didn't go through torture, this is very, very important, on the other hand, that some sofa experts who only saw through the window that there was an enemy there, so that they do not get this status, it is also a task to put such a barrier yaroslav bondarenko with us in communication with volon ter russian veteran - veteran of the russian-ukrainian war co-founder of the project base four five zero yaroslav i congratulate you glory to ukraine we are listening please tell us about the project base 4-5 zero, what is its purpose and how is it implemented, well, the goal next, in ukraine, we

simply do not have such a suitable militia for veterans, for the military. we have been dealing with rehabilitation issues for more than five years. i have even seen the whole world where our guys who have lost their arms even sit on a servo, go for a ride on boats and so on. we have been doing all this for a long time. the whole family is involved, not only there is the brainchild of the wife. that is, completely families come, there is a great demand for it, and that is why the decision was made to create exactly such a

platform such a military hub is a 2,000 square meters on the water center with swimming pools with rehabilitation centers, offices , gyms, and its own kayak - the center has its own garden, the center is two cable cars, that is, we have already presented this project and we will now do everything in order to raise funds and implement this project, life is like that, know-how is like that hollywood in ukraine, on which uh, our veterans deserved it, our fighters deserved it, very cool, what question are you counting on, where will you look for money, the state or donors, we will, you know, we will come to everyone, to everyone, hmm, that is, with the help of uh, we will be there and for the border and to the state to apply and so on to look for patrons uh, we have all been working for almost six years,

our own time, our own funds, and so on, but we see how much it is needed and how much it is lacking in anya in the capital, anya in all of ukraine, so we will apply in this way to mykhailo tsimbalyuk from the specialized committee has already come to us, so he will take your initiative into account for work in the committee. there are some significant problems that the government itself can help to overcome, you know, it's hard to say, i don't want to honestly say my own opinion about the state, the government offices, and so on. i heard a lot of promises from over there.

there were many promises to the citizens of maidan, but only a few are working, and if we talk about the state, well, state aid from the state is nil, the only thing is, some measures, this is the first time. only that year, we won the contests and in the kyiv city contest, and for the first time, well, it was not full- scale invasion, then kyiv would allocate funds for some events on the basis of 4-50, these are events with our veterans, this is a competition, this is a meeting of such sports that we planned to hold four times a year, mr. yaroslav , in your opinion, it should be improve is it possible that some extra papers should have been taken away to facilitate the document flow for military personnel? you know. well, this is such a

broad question. i don’t even know what documents this is about. if even my own life is taken, well, i was written off in the 16th year. disability, i was kicked out of the service, i was in a volunteer battalion, then in kyiv, they still didn't pay me the insurance, i was kicked three times. i tried to draw up documents even for the insurance that the state should have been able to pay, and i didn't get one. i'm sorry for the expression, i waved my hand spat on it and forgot about the papers and there are a lot of problems with those who enlisted in the eu, problems with people who are now on the front lines and are still incomplete, about the stereo and so on, here is the offshore issue and there are a lot of problems here and people are contacting them they are asking me to make this information public somewhere, and so

on. and so on, that is, there are a lot of nuances , so i don't even know. so, when is this very very? yes , i would like to, if you are not yet disappointed. i am ready to fight with you for the state to return what is due you are talking about insurance, i will leave my contact number , contact the studio, i will be happy to meet you, i have heard a lot about your center, and i believe that the authorities will and should purchase services from such and you should compete on an equal footing with others, although i have not seen anything similar in the state. he received veterans in the budget, there are more than hundreds of millions of hryvnias specifically for rehabilitation, and i think that you can participate on the same level as others, and the state should buy you such a service, and for insurance, let's fight

, i also say these structures are love i saw uh i saw their work, what were the funds allocated to, to whom were allocated, how were they allocated, i saw, excuse me, dozens of laptops, what kind of money were rented there for 50,000 uah for 3-4 days ago, what can we talk about, what, well, that is, here i am disappointed, that is why we are used to working alone here we are there is an x-park location, there is a founder, yuriy zozulya, with which question is solved the current, with a bang , he is a coach, he sets, he works with the boys , he invests his time, money, i work with my fund , the new revival of ukraine. we rely on ourselves we negotiated with all the federations about the locations we have 150 locations now in the ex-park free

for veterans and their families in the summer one soccer field kayaks windsurfing in the winter even television and you are coming to us there are so many people who come to us on saturdays with grimaces that we already have the biggest spa sauna in the expark, and there are more and more people who want it, so we help ourselves, work quietly for ourselves if we need any help, we are writing somewhere, someone is helping . thank you very much, but this is a very big hope for the state . we will be grateful if you join us. we will be grateful if you will help us . there are projects. there are projects in front of the projects . specialists were engaged in inclusion specifically for our electoral and amputees.

to create such a space for our wounded in order to rehabilitate them both morally and physically and psychologically. yaroslav , what are the biggest ones? well, not difficulties, not a problem. how can you call it moral or psychological, yes, for those people who return here from the war, look, it ’s basically the same thing, psychological. we really don’t feel. the guys are friends by the third by relatives, but also what happens, for example , the family comes in the summer, they take kayaks, the children, the wife, the fighter, the fighter swims 3 m from the shore, lies down on that sap, rests after two hours, moors, says how i rested , then splashed in the water, everything is fine, wife

calls and says i want more because we even have it relations have improved, i came on my own, and here is a guide, er, the thesis is the third or fourth, for example, recently, we have fewer locations in the winter, er, the spa center, sulking, and so on. communication is all about you. well, a week ago, for the first time. after the spa, we had a big gathering where everyone gathered, the guys made mulled wine, grilled kebabs, that is, we have a spa, which we gather at 10 in the morning, and it ended almost at 5:00. dinner, everyone left very satisfied. thank you. thank you. what are you doing yaroslav bondarenko - volunteer, veteran of the russian-ukrainian war, co-founder of the base 4-5.0 project and mykhailo tsymbalyuk, people's deputy of ukraine, deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on social policy and protection of veterans' rights, lieutenant general of the police