the institute that we have to carry out orders from moscow on the territory of our country. we have no right to allow ourselves such things. let's just say that such things are simply unacceptable. this is a danger to our national security. this is the first situation if they bring all their relevant documents into compliance if they will live according to our laws, there are no big questions for them, it's another matter that the huge number of people who are today wear these clothes that they wear and it's their problem, it's our problem uh, not with you, we can’t ban it there. they are related directly to the soviet union. i apologize to muscovy, so they need to decide because the number of people who come to us is simply 11 articles, that’s why in these environments it is very, very very big, but also a big question, society also consists of journalists and activists

who during the war defended the land, er, held the information front, but the further there is, there will probably be more questions about the beginning of the war, for example, why the russians advanced so quickly right now investigations are starting on what is happening in their own offices, who drives which car, and so on, these processes are , after all, natural. we have made progress , look at us. we would really like them not to be sad at all, this is true, but i can say that we need to look at the result. what happened? and when they say that we did not prepare, allegedly for war, i want to draw attention to all the decisions of the council to ensure of defense, if someone starts to analyze them, what they were about and how it all happened and what the processes were, then the preparation is ours olena, look, if we had not prepared the society

, we would not have the result we have today, the task was the president's task, the task was advised from the height of defense prepare society for war, society was ready for war, what happened was the attack . it would be a challenge for any country, but the strategy was chosen. i believe that it was absolutely appropriate and at that time, whether society is tired now or not. it depends on society. we have no right to be tired because we, our generation, must put an end to this war, if we do not put it, we will leave this problem to our children, our grandchildren , and the question of a new war with the russian federation. then this question will only be a matter of time . our territory

the last question, would you like to go to the city of luhansk after our victory, and what place in luhansk would you like to visit first of all, i must go to the city of luhansk, i must go to the city where i was born of course, the first place i i will go, it will be a cemetery, i need to go to those people who spent part of my life with me, whom i respect, oh, oh, my relatives are there, oh, my friends are there, and they are buried in luhansk, they are buried in krasny ochi , too. now christ's crystal see this is the first place that should be visited. and in general, what concerns respect for those people who lived before us, who lived together with us, this is a separate topic. and

this is absolutely unacceptable, any kind of monopoly in general, these are not unacceptable things, we will definitely be there, i will definitely visit those cities that i told you about . attends well, of course i do i have to visit those people who stayed there for one reason or another, oh, well, you know that, dear. but when they say that they are already very angry there in moscow, they don't remember that i was born there, this guy template, yes, they don't remember that i was elected mayor of luhansk in the first round in 1994. they don't remember that, for them it's just some evil stereotypes, in fact , look. they all think that it's theirs. and where is that those that they bought. who is there

today in action, what are they through money bought a dot. they bought everyone. there is a mountain of people. what are you? it was different. sometimes, it was a different matter. what we, our services , had to watch carefully. well, unfortunately , many of those people who were in the services were bought in the same way. it was retail. a big problem, but this is our formation, this is our beginning of our movement, now the lord is giving us a chance to build countries and we have no right to lose this chance. rather, thank you, thank you, the epoch of nivroku, the times of obsession, customs, the flag is more visible in time, the

destruction of people is the brightest, we hold on, it is not easy and it is not the strength that is tired to hold on to the edge of a fatal mistake, even though the showers are severe in the flow in the resource. the war does not look at all like in the movies, it is a dirty, cold and terrible war, it smells of sweat and blood, the war leaves its mark on everyone

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colleagues with the head of the fund, come back alive, come back alive with taras chmut, the public had little conversation with him even before the final decision of great britain on the new aid package, and the head of the fund noted that the influence of the supply of tanks on the course of the war will depend on the skill of the ukrainian tankers, who still need to master new armored vehicles can volunteers buy tanks for ukraine , what will be the situation with the armament of the ukrainian army this year, my colleague olena revorska asked taras chmut about this not only it happened that since february 24 we have been engaged in everything from the guidance of some missile systems there to the removal of animals and people. we are not competitors

of the state. we help the state . thank you for taking the time to visit us, thank you for the invitation, i will take advantage of the opportunity and the fact that you are not only the head of the come back alive fund, but also a military analyst , and i want to start our conversation with the news of this last week, we heard statements from the leadership of poland and representatives of great britain that they are preparing to hand over ice tanks to ukraine, when they will be in ukraine, then it is scary, well, how do you assess the prospect that they will eventually be in ukraine, how quickly can this happen, will there be new western tanks when this year, but the year has just begun, but the year has just begun, well, let's then

talk about whether these statements, uh, they can encourage other countries that have not yet announced such intentions that they could theoretically hand over the tanks after all, do it after the first president is in fact, so other countries are pulling up. how did it come out of petri? ukraine is asking ukraine from nato for 1,000 tanks. do you agree with this amount? that is how much we need and how much we can realistically get. we can get more. there are more tanks in the world. 1,000 is a lot. it would compensate for all our losses. by this war for this phase of the war and certainly qualitatively increase the potential for a possible large-scale counteroffensive over the past few months we have

heard many different names of tanks. leklepy which of these tanks would be the best for us or so far we understand that they can be leopards and a challenge well, i am abram super sports well here are the questions which well we are not very in a position when we choose most likely everything goes to the fact that these will be german leopards of some old version, yes, maybe some small number of challenges. well, maybe some number of abrams in the future. there are some abrams in the world that could pass to us, and there are the most of them, respectively. if i had a choice, i would choose them but everything is going to the point that the poles will be the first to

convey what the president and the rest of the countries in which they are, which are friendly to us , will drop in numbers, just as it was with armed air defense equipment and other titanka systems that we theoretically and actually are possible we can get how qualitatively they differ from what is in russia. well, this is a completely different technique, but it is not so important . or techniques, that is, the skill of the ukrainian military can guarantee let's say that any western tank prevails or, according to its capabilities, the ukrainian military can nullify the advantages in performance characteristics, that is, it depends on the people in the first place who apply, that is who are planning to use it and who will directly

implement it on the battlefield, that is why training is always important in principle and it is no less necessary to invest in people than just iron tanks are one of those types of weapons that ukrainians really expected, can tanks really somehow qualitatively change the course of new actions let's say that we have received and will receive modernized soviet tanks, different and not modernized and modernized different ones . about western tanks, er, because the soviet fleet is exhaustive, er, the first point, the second point, it is er, plus-minus corresponds to the soviet modernized tank, plus-minus in some ways better in some ways it may be worse, it depends on what some but western tanks - this is the new uh new level i don’t know the new height

of western aid this is how it was with the schemars there this is how it was with the zrk with the kinders before the full-scale invasion this is how it was with the zhigulins in the 18th year it seems that these are all new stages what transferable country partners enhance our status as an ally or sell one or another equipment, weapons, technology, this is one of the stages before this , we talked a lot about the bmp, finally the americans give 50 brackles, two two ods, uh, again, 50, the first step further, i think other countries will step up and we will get how the window will open western infantry fighting vehicles are the same with tanks that they can qualitatively change on the battlefield to stop the russian offensive and contribute to stopping the russian offensive or to develop the ukrainian contrast. that is, we can say that

this is such a decisive weapon for it does not have any weapons other than nuclear, which is decisive, well, nuclear we don't have any weapons, look, i also wanted to ask you about, against the background of these latest statements , not so much about tanks, but in general about the transfer of heavy armored vehicles to ukraine . we also see the strengthening of the air defense system, what are the chances that in 2023 ukraine will receive everything from its partners in the amount it really needs? it won't exist now and it won't exist this year and next, the volumes we need are simply not there in some parts of the world because the world

has not waged the kind of war we are waging for many, many decades - will they actually increase in quantity? well, it is possible due to the involvement of additional countries. it may be so. on the other hand, it can be the other way around, because each chest has its own problems and each chest has its own limitations. please help if possible. well conditionally if you have 100 tanks, it is unlikely that you will give 100. you need to keep something for yourself, accordingly, you can transfer 10-20 40 50 there, but not the rest. or if you can produce 10,000 shells there per month, obviously you will not be able to transfer or sell them in ukraine. more than 10,000 for the deployment of production, it will take years to compensate for production for its armed forces, for the usa and european

countries, it will also take years before weapons are destroyed, lost, broken quickly, and created for a long time, and this imbalance cannot be correct just like that take and take somewhere, here you say that there is a possible shortage of certain types of weapons or ammunition right now, and literally about a month or a half ago, the western media began to write about it, that it is starting to be felt more and more about which specific types of weapons and ammunition, hmm, which in deficit, we are talking about what ukraine uses, that is, to understand where we may have problems, artillery shells, in general, ammunition for all soviet, for example , operational-tactical missiles or tactical missile complex dot dot oh oh among nato countries there is only bulgaria now and it is not clear whether because of a modernized missile or not

as a result it is not clear. here we have the 19th missile brigade, it is firing at them or has already fired the last missiles there and what then well, then they need to be armed with western equipment , and we understand that this soviet equipment has served its purpose and disappeared from aution 27, it’s the same story, the ammunition is running out, the barrels are worn out. from an economic point of view, this technology is dying out in many ways, and somewhere we can switch to western technology in a sauna, for example, the creation of 155- caliber 105-caliber artillery, and somewhere we will simply die out naturally, because the world is changing, everything is completed by soviet weapons probably the last great war of soviet weapons, how should ukraine prepare or, well, get out of this

situation. that at some point we may find ourselves without those weapons that play an important role on the battlefield hmm and we are already in we have been in such a situation for a long time. well, we can somehow fight . well, somehow. then we will continue to fight. the chain is able to cause consequential relations . it says that if at some point we do not have enough to fight with, then we will not have enough from the spring, so we may be forced to make some agreements . about some kind of conditional truce or not to go, this is again the position of ukraine. we are conducting it in kyiv, it is obviously not tangible , but it requires a much larger amount of everything than we have and can be in the short

or medium term, and this cannot be solved by the fact that, let's say, our western partners there are stepping up to provide us with weapons or ammunition in the social world the americans would like to give there, i don't know, half of their armored vehicles. of course, this problem has been solved, but it doesn't happen because when the states give something of their own and they have to compensate themselves for it, part of the funds that we see in some sums there are 3 billion dollars. not the funds with which they buy for ukraine, these are the funds with which they buy for america from an american manufacturer, at the same time transferring to us what they have now in the troops, well, or at storage bases, that is, they took the javelin in ukraine, gave it to themselves, and bought a new one for themselves place was put, that is, it is very often and in many points it works that way. that is why there are also certain limits there, it is not so simple that there america does not want or they have their own restrictions , there are their own no because they can and to whom they

can limit how many of them have always stay in your armed forces because ukraine is not the only point of conflict on the world map and other regions where the american military is there may be some kind of escalation and they must be ready to count everywhere, that is, in every country, their interest or russia and those few partners on which it can now count in matters of armaments is depleted in proportion to the depletion of the west russia is smaller , economically weaker, technologically the west is stronger in terms of plan, it is obviously another matter that this measurement of potentials is taking place in our country on territory and we are paying for it for this time , while the west has finally overpowered us, we are washing it with love, so in this situation, it would be good that the

west is stronger there, but at the cost of our lives, i will ask you about the weapons and we will move on to business in return alive e- these are the tanks with which we started our conversation. it was one of those types of weapons that at the beginning of a full-scale invasion in the west they said, well, it’s impossible there, or it’s not realistic, at least publicly, they said it’s possible, you said and said something and something else, is it possible expect that by the end of this year we will hear announcements about some other types of weapons that well, now we are told that they are real, i would hope at the political level about the driver's aviation or already hope that it will be last year somewhere, well, closer to the new year, but unfortunately the west so far, the west has given the patriots, but they are not ready to give a fighter or are ready. but again, the soviets, and unfortunately there are still quite a lot of them in nato countries,

and who should give the 16s instead of the mig-29 or su-25, like the same one to bulgaria? or the 117th how or there su-22 like in poland so that they would hand them over for us, that is, for us, this is also a decision, well, either we will have nothing or we will have at least something. that is, it is better than nothing. to other countries, and i was not surprised if it turned out that we would receive six rafales, four flukes, a bunch of soviet f16 planes and some more, some more, we will again have a big zoo all over the place and this is not very good in the long run. come on let's talk about the come back alive fund a-a have you already summed up the results of 2022 because you managed

to legalize the donation and on our website this information is public, you can go there to see about 6 billion without taking into account crypto-currency, what are the main expenses currently being spent on for example, from these six billions, what did you direct the main amount to , the most together procurement it was in the berektar tb-2 complex, they damage three aircraft, ammunition landing sites and everything necessary for work there, $16.5 million, unmanned complexes ukrainian-made pd-2 11 units with all-wheel drive bus-based torsus cars, it’s somewhere around 10 million dollars 26 100 stork complexes, also ukrainian-made, now a big project with an eye eh 25 unmanned shark complexes, also of ukrainian production , on the same all-wheel-drive a-a cars

from the torso, the long-armed mortars continue, which we are currently collecting and implementing there since march already with mortars. i hope they will begin to arrive at the troops, well, that is, such large projects. well, not half, 40% of all expenses is the so-called flow of copters, thermal imagers, radio stations , monitors, computers, printers, cables, metal detectors, suits of sappers. you listed this license. but it is interesting in general that the possibilities of the fund on this market are in terms of lethal weapons . for example, we mentioned tanks, you can buy a tank without problems, only

in cash, that is, if the ukrainians would abandon the fund return alive to the tank, in principle, you could drive it without any problems at all, and from time to time such a request appears, such as to buy a tank, but one tank costs somewhere around two plus million dollars, with these funds you can buy much more than something more necessary, 1 million dollars 40 million hryvnias, well, this is plus-minus 40-120 mm 40-120 mm is 6 mm batteries, this is to completely re-equip one full-fledged full-blooded mechanized brigade, and the efficiency of six mortar batteries will be ten times greater on the battlefield than from one tantum , is it possible to buy is it possible to have a tank in it? some, well, a big added efficiency, no, if we are talking about 10 tanks, 20 tanks, 100 tanks

, it’s another story, because then you can 10 tanks , it’s conditional. on the front, you can strengthen our positions, and that means losses will be less, something else, for example, from the other side. well, there is a question of time, how long will it take you to put them up, will they be ready or will it be in a year? well, if in a year, then it is not very effective to invest funds from already ready, there is something to talk about, all these topics are not fast, they are complicated and they are always making a decision about this or that purchase, you are constantly looking at it, and there is it better to buy this is it better to buy pickups with this money or just copters or communications is there any other weapon and you constantly combine it with something, compare it in order to make a decision that is maximally

balanced, yes, regarding whom the fund helps, come back alive. when i was preparing for our interview, i watched the story of radio svoboda for march 4, but how did the fund work in these conditions the first days of the full-scale invasion and i remember that one of the moments that struck me was that you in particular equipped the fighters of the alpha special unit. a few tens of people per uh there maybe in kyiv there are a little more and well, let it be a thousand people, well, against the background of the armed forces of 700-800,000, they are not many and they are needed, well, you understand the ratio there, 700,000, here, 1,000, but they need very much of specific and technical er-er well the best let's put it this way, in the first couple of years there was quite a lot of it, now it is a little less, but well, requests are coming in, we are closing them,

for example, you are defaming the alpha unit, you are helping the scouts, we are with help. they are such wonderful people there, and there is buzz in alfa and in the sbu. the problem is that the state can’t do everything for everyone at the same time . well, it just can’t be the same there. the people there are the same, but the deal there takes three months. signing the implementation there are still six months of production and supply, well, the state can’t, we are not competitors of the state, we help the state, we lend a shoulder where the state needs more time or it can’t cope there because well, it can’t, because somewhere there is no competence, somewhere there are no skills, somewhere the state closes with large strokes, large pieces, well , that is, conditionally speaking, the state

provides everyone with fuel, but at the same time, the state cannot control that there is a fuel pump in every car, conditionally, well , either that there was a car or that there was a car, yes and someday, of course, the state will close the issue someday. for now, people are closing it, it's normal because, well, because the war is going like this, last time you were with us in the summer, and you then told us in an interview with my colleague that i will quote that the state does not support volunteer work in bila, from the point of view of the importation of goods for military purpose and dual purpose abroad, is this situation still relevant? that is, on the one hand, you are shouldering the shoulders of the state, on the other hand, the state does not contribute to the fact that you can, and the state also does not can quickly or does not want to quickly change the entire bureaucratic machine that was actually created there for decades